Rick Ronson
Banned
@ how this thread turned into a bunch of bitch ass bickering.
Perhaps you lack comprehension skills
You telling on yourself dumbass! First of all, I'm from Inglewood CA, born and raised. All the shit I been through in my life, I have the right to speak about the fact that if one black person can make it, we all can regardless of economic status or the community you live in. Anyone who thinks and says differently is lost or a liar! There's no excuse for the way we have come along as a race. Fuck the outside world, fuck racist whites, asians, hispanics, etc. That don't have shit to do with us not making it!!! If the black family was strong and we ALL still looked out for each other and truly loved one another, there's no force alive that could stop such a strong race of people.
It's coon niggas like you, who appear to be intelligent on the surface but are just as lost as every other dumb, blind, mis-guided muthafucka, and you contribute to the mis-education of our people with your cowardly dumb winey crybaby feel sorry for yourself bullshit.
It's bitches like you that make cowardly leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Them niggas know, if they tell black people the truth about our current state of being they are going to piss a bunch of people off who cant stand to hear the truth. The hardest thing to do in life is to admit your wrong, see the error in your ways and correct it.
But just tell me, what are you waiting on bitch, your 40 acres and mule?
Nicca you FAILED. Accept it.
Dis nicca mad as hell. This self-indicting lookin ass nicca. You can;t be serious right now.
You from Ingelwood, CA. You wana cookie and smiley face sticker nicca? Fuckouttahere with your backward ass, self-denigrating, racist argument. It's shell-fish ass niccas like you that catch a break and luckily slither their crab ass way outta the hood then start shittin' on dudes just cuz you can now afford to buy non name brand rice crispys n shit.
Negro please.
Making excuses?
If this transcendence from the systemic poverty and inequality your ignorant over-hyped stupid ass refuses to acknowledge, is so easy and readily accessible, then why the fuck is shit the way it is?
Wait, hold on, lemme apply your mashed-potatoes ass logic. Oh, because black people complain too much and can't pull themselves up by their boot straps 'n shit.
McCain ass nicca. I could post links upon links of information and stats that show how heavily and deliberately biased the WEALTH distribution, allocation of resources and social infrastructure is in this country. Then hit your dumb ass with ubiquitous knowledge on the interconnectivity with institutionalized racism and fucked up government policies ... but nah.
Your stupid ass wouldn't get it anyway.
Imus ass nicca.
what do we do now to: Save the black family, stop young brothas from believing they better off dead as kids, stop babies from having babies, educate OUR youth that no one else cares about.....
Look at the pictures in the original post. How many of those people as children had parents that made sure they didn't watch TV and made sure they had nutritios food to eat? Made sure they had a story read to them before bed and taught them about the world?
Here’s some real talk. If black folx did what Barack & Michelle did.
1> Go to school, apply yourself & get some skills.
2> Wait until your married & have careers until you have children.
Most of the problems would be fixed overnight.
It's not time for blame homie. Each one, teach one.
I try, you can too. I haven't given up yep. (even though ninjas test me)
If i'm alone in my thinking/feeling, then so be it...but the rap music/lyrics, the clothes, the gold grills, the bright red weaves, the violence, all the dudes sitting around mooching off of their mothers and baby moms, not working, spending all of their money on weed, video games and clothes - the whole 9...I'm just getting sick of it...
if people want to call that self hatred - so be it. but I'm officially done with it. and before cats get on me....I'm not from the suburbs, been living around this shit my whole life.
People always talk about UNCLE TOMS/SELLOUTS and the black middle class not doing enough or whatever...truth be told when its all said and done - if it weren't for people like Barack Obama, Oprah, and fuck it - Condie Rice and Colin Powell, we'd be nothing but a bunch of THESE running around:
Nigga you are so stupid and lost!!! I hate you fuck'n pussies that want to blame all our problems on someone else!
1) You say Niggas have been made by bad schools, I know plenty of black scholars who have come out of "bad schools"! Explain how they made it? so your full of shit bitch!
2)You say niggas have been made by the ghetto, Wake up you dumb nigga, it's MAJORITY 99% of black people killing black people that make the ghetto the ghetto
3) you say niggas have been made by the cops who sell drugs in our community. SHUT THE FUCK UP!! Aint nobody on corners in our communities selling drugs to our people but our own people
Your a pussy making excuses instead of trying to help our people find a solution. Be a man you pussy!!!
I love how you stereotype black people in the "hood"
As if everyone thinks and acts like you. As if people in the hood are one monolith
And the negativity as if people in the hood can't achieve shit
What sort of background did Oprah come from? Colin Powell? Reginald Lewis? Dr Marc Lamont Hill?
I wonder if Jewish people look at Jewish people who are half Jewish or have small noses and say they don't have the same struggle and aren't Jewish enough.
Who wants to raise their kids in the hood, yet a lot of you guys keep saying this dumb shit.
I'm from the hood...who gives a fuck. Does that make you better than Obama? Muthafuckas act like they went to Vietnam and shit. Whoa...he's from the hood. Watch out now. If what Obama went through is so easy, why hasn't it been done before? I'm sure other people made it out fine where you're from Rambo.
Too many of you muthafuckas have misplaced priorities and values. Instead of being amazed that a black man can be the first to be head of the Harvard Law Review and the first black presidential nominee. You all talk about well he ain't from the hood. He didn't have the same struggle. What you want all black people to be poor, come from drug addicted parents and shit? Would that satisfy you? Would you accept him then? Would he have a hood pass
Bitch, my dick size is higher than your IQ
You blame whitey muthafuckas are part of the problem with our communities.
will one of you oh-so-wise black nationalists please explain how someone who is oppose to high HIV rates, 7 out of 10 of our children being born to single mothers = wanting to be white?
and when I see asians, africans, indians (arabs), all sitting down at business meetings wearing SUITS AND TIES transacting business, they all use their native DIALECT when speaking, but they don't get in there using slang and profanities...are these people "acting white?" or could it be what so many of you cats consider to be "wanting to be white" is simply the global model for success and has absolutely NOTHING to do with wanting to be "WHITE" at all..
think for yourselves. i promise it won't kill you.
Every time someone make a critique about black folx that’s fuckin up or doing nothing but being a burden on society, people come out with the same old excuses/arguments.
1> You hate black people.
Yeah, I hate black people so much that I want them to do better? FOH. I am tried of black folx who are fuckin up & clearly that’s not all black folx. These are usually the same black folx who are murdering, assaulting, robbing, raping, using other black folx. The funny thing is the same folx callin out the black people who are sick of the bullshyt defend black folx who prey on other black folx as if no black folx ever do shyt wrong. FOH
2> but but but what about white people? They be fuckin up too!
Uh, what about them? This has shit to do with white people. I ain’t white. I care about black folx and this is about certain black folx who don’t want to be productive and/or choose to be criminals.
3> The reason is slavery or any excuse to blame white folx..
FOH. I mean really.. FOH. We’re never gonna fix black folx fuckin up if we keep lying about & blaming folx for the shyt WE do. Mafuckas gotta be accountable for their own behavior, period. Fools rollin around terrorizing the neighbor ain’t got shyt to do with white folx.
4> All black ppl ain’t like that?
Really? No shyt? We know that. We’re the ones tired of the fools that fuckin up.
Here’s some real talk. If black folx did what Barack & Michelle did.
1> Go to school, apply yourself & get some skills.
2> Wait until your married & have careers until you have children.
Most of the problems would be fixed overnight. Obama can’t press a magic button fix everything. However, what he can do is give us a CLEAR example of how they can also be successful. However, all of these noise makers who are enabling black folx to keep fuckin up need to find a way to keep their hustling going or folx who want to continue to fuel grievance as a justification for failure need to keep claiming white folx are stopping black folx from achieving any level of success. And for the record, you can’t help folx who refuse help, refuse education, refuse to work, etc. I have helped plenty of people but there are some who don't want do do shyt & we gotta quit acting like everyone who ain't got shyt never hand anyone try to put them on the path to success. That's absolute bullshyt.
C'mon brah, the shyt we're seeing in the hood is GETTING WORSE, not better. No one expects perfections but we got to many kids outta wedlock, young men in prison, dropouts, etc.. The problems are mounting. We gotta do better.
He's not Mexican dog.
^^^bruh, slaves would learn how to read in barns and shacks by the moonlight. and people complaining about the educational system
it use to be NOTHING to walk down the street and see black folks hanging from a street light in some major U.S. cities...but we fly off the handle b/c a white person says n*gger?
...and most of these dudes on here openly date/sleep with white women?
these cats scream out "WHITEY!! CRACKAS!! AMERIKKA" and don't even know WTF they are talking about. it's all theatrics and emotions. just doing it because they saw somebody else doing it...I don't even pay them any attention.
Really, because I just saw a White bitch on TV, who lost her kid for 30 days before she had even reported her missing and another who let a known child-molester move into her house and molest her kid for months before finally kicking him out? See, I can use a few instances and make them look like the overwhelming majority too.I have to cosign this.
When the white people I know have children, they have everything all planned out. They start getting organic baby food, researching the best way to communicate with their kids and to teach them, make sure the get lots of stimulus, and caring. A lot of them don't let their kids watch TV, read them stories at night. Teach them to love fresh fruit and vegetables, things like that.
Let's be honest, the average black kid is walking around an apartment somewhere with some baby Timberlands looking at videos while their mother is on the phone with the father arguing so they have that after fight sex. When the kid fiinally makes enough commotion to get his mother's attention, he gets yelled at or maybe swatted and put back in front of the TV.
I know I'm generalizing but I have seen this too many times. What kid do you think has a better chance to deal with or even succeed in life?
You have to set up an environment so kids can become curious about the world around them so they like learning.
http://parenting.ivillage.com/tp/tpdevelopment/0,,4747,00.html
It's pretty much too late for the current generation, we are what we're going to be for the most part. What we CAN change is the position we put future generations.
Look at the pictures in the original post. How many of those people as children had parents that made sure they didn't watch TV and made sure they had nutritios food to eat? Made sure they had a story read to them before bed and taught them about the world?
I've been saying that forever on this board! Out of wed lock births with impoverished blacks is the MAIN REASON blacks in this country stay in poverty!
Until we find a way to shut down the baby making machines in the black community this will never end!!
Ppl complaining about out of wedlock kids.
but how many of you brothers are married or planning to get married?
I can bet I can count the amount on one hand.
Yeah man, everytime I see Bill Gates, it just makes me hate my next door neighbor who's a meth-head even more. . . . . . .
See how stooopid that sounds?
Get the picture.
Comparing Obama to the niggaz on your corner is like comparing Bill Gates to your average trailor-trash. It's retarded, just like how all of y'all have been acting since this Obama thing has gotten started. Poor Whites & Poor Blacks will always be more ignorant than their middle-class and upper-class brethren, that's just how it is.
How many niggaz you know who are A)half-white B)raised in the most racially diverse place in Amerikkka C)grew up partially in Indonesia D)went to exclusive private schools D) Went to Harvard and Columbia E)
Your comparison would actually be more accurate with Clarence Thomas, who is full-Black, from the Deep South and who suffered from racism full-on back in the day, than it is with Barack Obama. Just keep your racist, anti-Negro bullshit to yourself next time you find something idiotic to say. Oprah's story or even Condoleeza Rice's story is closer to ours than Barack Obama's. I'm glad he's getting in McCain's ass too, but this is ridiculous.
Next thing you know, niggaz are gonna renounce watermelons or something.
You damn right I'm mad. I hate to see my people be so blind and so willing to ignore the most obvious problems we have!
Okay, we got systemic poverty and inequality, Life aint fair Now what nigga??? You want a cookie for that? We got institutionalized racism, life aint fair Now what nigga???? Are we suppose to cry like bitches and just lay down and die because of it? Are we suppose to say that is the excuse for why we are killing more of our people than any race has ever done? Your the smart one nigga, since it's okay for us to be fucked up cuz crackas done had they foot in our back, what do we do now nigga? You've cleared up all the inequalities black folks experience, so with your extreme intelligence what do we do now to: Save the black family, stop young brothas from believing they better off dead as kids, stop babies from having babies, educate OUR youth that no one else cares about.....now that you have all the answers tell me what we gonna do now nigga.
Could you possibly go look up another speech online and give me some more big words of bullshit wisdom? If all those bullshit excuses you gave above are the valid reasons we are in the shape we are in, how do you explain the young brothas and sisters that have risen up out of that shit to be successful? How did they do it? If they did it, why can't we all?
What he saidIt's not time for blame homie. Each one, teach one.
I try, you can too. I haven't given up yep. (even though ninjas test me)
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I aint no pussy. I work in the community and have been since 1992. You probably aint never been to the hood in your life and if you have you probably got the hell out and aint never came back to do shit for anybody else.
Get the fuck out of here. I never said Obama wasn't Black enough. I said show me one nigga that said he wasn't. I've seen the most hood niggaz in my city damn near in tears, while he was accepting the nomination. If something happened to that man right now, you'd have grown men, Gs and hustlas crying in the streets like MLK had been shot. Keep the hood out your mouth. You don't live here apparently.
I never said that people in the hood can't achieve shit, you non-reading bitch. Read, I said Clarence Thomas, Oprah and even Obama's own wife's story are closer to ours than his, are those three Black people not successful?
If I didn't believe Black folks couldn't achieve shit, I wouldn't be here trying to get people to vote for Obama over the phone and over the internet and making flyers and shit like that. Just because I'm not willing to embrace your completely unrealistic view of my people, dont' mean I'm not saying that Black folks aint shit. I'm saying YOU AINT SHIT. Dumb nigga. I'm saying that the powers that be, that I'm working against strive to make sure that there are only a few Marc Lamont Hills and Reginald Lewis', whereas if all of us got a proper education and got to live in a fair society, there'd be hundreds, maybe thousands of people like that.
Learn to read, you punk bitch!!!
LoL @Black Americans.
White ppl have you all going at each other throats.
If i'm alone in my thinking/feeling, then so be it...but the rap music/lyrics, the clothes, the gold grills, the bright red weaves, the violence, all the dudes sitting around mooching off of their mothers and baby moms, not working, spending all of their money on weed, video games and clothes - the whole 9...I'm just getting sick of it...
if people want to call that self hatred - so be it. but I'm officially done with it. and before cats get on me....I'm not from the suburbs, been living around this shit my whole life.
People always talk about UNCLE TOMS/SELLOUTS and the black middle class not doing enough or whatever...truth be told when its all said and done - if it weren't for people like Barack Obama, Oprah, and fuck it - Condie Rice and Colin Powell, we'd be nothing but a bunch of THESE running around:
Every time someone make a critique about black folx that’s fuckin up or doing nothing but being a burden on society, people come out with the same old excuses/arguments.
1> You hate black people.
Yeah, I hate black people so much that I want them to do better? FOH. I am tried of black folx who are fuckin up & clearly that’s not all black folx. These are usually the same black folx who are murdering, assaulting, robbing, raping, using other black folx. The funny thing is the same folx callin out the black people who are sick of the bullshyt defend black folx who prey on other black folx as if no black folx ever do shyt wrong. FOH
2> but but but what about white people? They be fuckin up too!
Uh, what about them? This has shit to do with white people. I ain’t white. I care about black folx and this is about certain black folx who don’t want to be productive and/or choose to be criminals.
3> The reason is slavery or any excuse to blame white folx..
FOH. I mean really.. FOH. We’re never gonna fix black folx fuckin up if we keep lying about & blaming folx for the shyt WE do. Mafuckas gotta be accountable for their own behavior, period. Fools rollin around terrorizing the neighbor ain’t got shyt to do with white folx.
4> All black ppl ain’t like that?
Really? No shyt? We know that. We’re the ones tired of the fools that fuckin up.
I only read the first page, but I 100% agree with the OP.. and I'm in Brooklyn... niggas have so much opportunity around and capitalize on none of it, then go listen to and follow jay-z/jeezy/etc, and when they are 30 and jobless, blame it on white people (I'm definitely not trying to downplay their role in this).
I'm headed to class on a saturday, a class I paid for. Theres dozens of schools out here that don't charge niggas a penny, in fact they pay them $2500+ a semester in grants, niggas have no jobs and yet won't find the time to step on a campus and enlighten themselves.
The shit is sad, and it's even more sad in light of what Obama is doing. For those that compare Bill Gates and rednecks, it's not the same yo. Don't focus on white people, stop analyzing right and wrong by what white people do. We have our youth trying to live what 30 year old coons rap about. If you wanna draw a parallel, how many white kids are out there trying to be the white-trash on jerry springer? On the other hand, how many niggas in the hood are along the lines of the dude on maury? How many niggas in the hood, dress, act, and talk, like these niggas. That shit is the norm in many places.
In BK we have a diverse group of people, different types of people from all races. Just last night I was on one block where 100 white people (and some blacks) sitting down at a lounge drinkin n chillin... walk across th street to hear a nigga sayin he gotta get a gun cause sum1 snuffed him
While the OP's ideas don't address the entire issue, nor the bigger picture, he does put his foot down to make a point that i agree with - Black people need to do better for themselves. Point as many fingers as you want, but we are just not doing enough to make our lives better and our children's lives better. If we will live, act, and sing about this coon shit, then National Geographic will make documentaries about it, the news will report on it, and Bill O' Reilly will play it on his tv show when a chinese kid shoots up a school.
At the end of the day, we have to take the initiative and make better choices. I understand it's easier said than done, but I feel the OP on voicing his concern/opinion and i'll gladly reward it with 5 stars