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The SHOWTIME TV broadcast begins at 8 p.m. CT, featuring Jose Pedraza vs. Andrey Kilmov for the vacant IBF Junior Lightweight Title. That precedes Wilder's fight.

The start time for Wilder's fight could vary, but one boxing source said it would start after 9 p.m. and maybe closer to 10 p.m. That's a wide window, but it gives something to expect.
 
The REAL fight tonight is gonna be Walters vs. Marriaga..WALTERS is the dude that Knocked out Nonito Donare. And the guy he's fighting is the guy that beat him in the amateurs..DON'T SLEEP!! this WILL be a good one it will be on HBO the same time as the Wilder card

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Wilder will make quick work of Molina.
Probably 3 or 4 rounds,then i can restart that walters fight.
I've been waiting to see the Axe man since he beat the brakes off Donaire.

Peace
 
THE DEMISE OF ADRIEN BRONER

What’s next for Adrien Broner?

That is a difficult question for a 25-year-old who started his career with a great deal of promise. As he walked back to his corner after a baffling performance against cross-state rival Shawn Porter on Saturday in Las Vegas, Broner had a look of relative indifference in his eyes. It was either that or a bizarre case of disillusion. He lost handily to Porter, but it was why he lost that gives rise to concern. Broner was not out-skilled or outclassed; he was simply outworked by a man who wanted it more.

That is the story of Broner: a lazy talent who believes he is a cut above the rest but is unwilling to put forth the effort to prove it.

It is hard to recall seeing such a polarizing figure with what appeared to be so much talent crash and burn in the manner in which “The Problem” has over the course of the past 18 months. Right before he lost to Marcos Maidana in 2013, it was fair to try and figure out if Broner was the next Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Zab Judah. The former might rub people the wrong way, but his dedication to his craft is unparalleled. The latter was extremely gifted but let stardom get to his head and prevent him from reaching his true potential. The Mayweather comparison went out the window the moment Broner got run over by Maidana. In retrospect, to even try to compare Broner to Judah would be an insult to Judah.

It is a fascinating downward spiral for a man who was once thought to be boxing’s next big thing. His grating personality was tolerable as long as he was winning. The fact remained that for every dollar bill he flushed down the toilet and for every video of him caught in a precarious position, the casual fan was paying attention. For better or worse, Broner was must-see TV; and for 26 consecutive fights, Broner was at the very least entertaining. From his brutal knockout of Jason Litzau in 2011 and his striking down of Gavin Rees in 2013 to a string of six consecutive knockouts, Broner looked like a special fighter with PPV draw written all over him. Then he squeaked by Paulie Malignaggi after jumping up two weight classes in a rather pedestrian performance in June 2013 and embarrassed himself with a tasteless feud over his opponent’s girlfriend.

Still, he won, and that left his image intact. Then came the Maidana defeat, and all of Broner’s deficiencies in and out of the ring surfaced in full force. The way he handled himself after that loss was deplorable and shattered his image.

You see, when you win, everything is forgivable because people either love you or simply want to see you lose. Getting under people’s skin was Mayweather’s greatest asset as he elevated himself to becoming boxing’s biggest cash cow. Everyone would pay to see if someone could finally shut him up. As long as his laundry list of opponents could not handle the job, more and more people would pay to see if and when it would happen. Unfortunately for Broner, his perfect record was shattered before he even reached that level. Nevertheless, his antics continued as he reeled off three victories that were not necessarily impressive but put him back in the win column.

Then came Porter, and the previous hiccup was realized as a true problem for a fighter ironically nicknamed “The Problem.” Broner simply could not handle pressure fighters with exceptional talent. At welterweight -- the fight with Porter was contested at a catchweight he demanded -- Broner had neither the power to keep them off of him nor the boxing ability to score points.

Watching Broner is an exercise in testing your patience. Ever since he moved up to welterweight, the 25-year-old has been unbelievably stubborn in his approach. Before, he had the ability to stand in the pocket and throw pot shots with his exceptional reflexes. Now, that power is little more than average, and his inability to put his punches together, coupled with his extraordinarily flat-footed approach, has left him wide open for criticism. We have to wonder if he was ever that good to begin with.

To make matters worse, the antics have not slowed down and Broner has yet to demonstrate anything resembling humility. In his post-fight interview, he came off as a fighter who would not come to grips with his ego. However, Instagram posts of him with a gun drew the ire of everyone because of the time proximity to the Charleston church shootings. He can call Mayweather his big brother all he wants, but sooner or later, he is going to have to take a hint and either emulate his work ethic or figure out when to turn off his controversial personality. It might be wise for him to do both.

Trying to figure out where he goes from here is a challenge. Clearly, he is not a threat to the elite 147-pounders and would be soundly thumped by the likes of Keith Thurman, Timothy Bradley and Manny Pacquiao. Honestly, Errol Spence Jr., who has drawn Mayweather’s praise and was exceptional in his undercard fight, would likely beat Broner handily. If he moves back to 140, fights against Ruslan Provodnikov, Lucas Matthysse and Lamont Peterson would all be dangerous and likely find him as the underdog.

The only fight that would make sense on a marketing level would be against Amir Khan because of their history of trading barbs. If he is going to lose, it might as well be to a guy like Khan so he can make enough money to rip into pieces before fading into obscurity. Broner serves a cautionary tale for any fighter who wants to be the next big thing but is unwilling to learn that it takes more than a loud mouth and talent to get to that level.

In a recent Instagram post, Broner declared: “When you rich and enjoying life but they still hating ……… I won’t ever change!!!!” Yes, but what happens when you aren’t rich because you aren’t winning? Will you change then?
 
Bradley vs Vargas results: Tim Bradley gets decision, but once again with some controversy

Timothy Bradley Jr picked up a good win with a strong performance tonight on HBO, but once again, a Bradley fight ended with some controversy, this time entirely due to the referee, who stopped the fight prematurely, not to award anyone the victory, but simply because he misheard the ten second claps as the final bell in round 12, with Bradley seemingly out on his feet after a monstrous right hand from Jessie Vargas.

Bradley ultimately won on scores of 116-112, 117-111, and 115-112, and the decision is deserved. BLH scored it 117-111 for Bradley. But Vargas was robbed of whatever remote chance he might have had of pulling off an epic rally, and that is entirely on referee Pat Russell.

"Very loud in that 12th round, and I thought I heard the bell, so the fight was over when that bell went off," Russell told Max Kellerman. "I made the call that I made based upon what I heard, that's all I can say. It's an honest call."

Surely, it was indeed an honest mistake. It's not like any theoretical string-pullers would have a whole lot to gain from Jessie Vargas losing this fight. If there were going to be some kind of shady screwjob, one would figure it would go against Bradley, the older fighter with the far lesser upside on paper.

What it is, however, is another case of boxing officiating getting something wrong, in yet another high-profile fight, and one that otherwise was entertaining and competitive.

"I feel great right now, man," Bradley (32-1-1, 12 KO) said. "I don't have to defend anything. He caught me with a good shot at the end. The ref thought he heard the bell. I was good enough, I could've grabbed hold of him. I was squeezing him so tight, it was like his mom holding him."

Bradley also said he's got no problem giving Vargas (26-1, 9 KO).

"Why not? We can do a rematch. I don't have a problem with that. Jessie came out, he fought hard. I felt like I was in better shape than he was, that's why I was able to take control of the fight."

When asked if he was confident of surviving those final seconds, Bradley was 100% certain he would have. "I could've continued, man. I survived Provodnikov. Come on."

Vargas, however, was confident that he could ahve finished. "All I needed was one shot. That's what I was looking for. It was just an honest mistake on the referee's part. We all acknowledge that it was an honest mistake. But those 10 seconds possibly cost me the fight."

Asked if he might try to start faster in a potential rematch, Vargas said, "We start off where we left off in that last round. Throw more punches, keep more active, that would be the thing there."
 
I said it before and I'll say it again... Bradley beats Mayweather.

He is waaaay to hard to hit clean... The only reason he got knocked down is that he stopped trying to box (which is a problem for him) and even then, that only happened during the last 10 seconds of the bout.
 
I said it before and I'll say it again... Bradley beats Mayweather.

He is waaaay to hard to hit clean... The only reason he got knocked down is that he stopped trying to box (which is a problem for him) and even then, that only happened during the last 10 seconds of the bout.

I will let you be the lone voice in the wilderness...:lol:
 
I said it before and I'll say it again... Bradley beats Mayweather.

He is waaaay to hard to hit clean... The only reason he got knocked down is that he stopped trying to box (which is a problem for him) and even then, that only happened during the last 10 seconds of the bout.

Bradley gets rocked in every fight hes in. guys are always hitting him clean.idk what you seeing:confused:
 


THURMAN vs COLLAZO
SAT, JUL 11, 2015 9PM ET Eastern Time / 6PM PT Pacific Time Live on ESPN / ESPN DEPORTES
USF Sun Dome, Tampa, Florida

With 21 knockouts in 25 wins, Keith “One Time” Thurman is one of the most explosive fighters in boxing, his every punch a threat to detonate his opponent.

Now, the undefeated 147-pound heavy hitter is ready to shine in the spotlight in his native state.

“For me, it’s a dream come true,” Thurman says. “All I ever wanted to do was bring the big lights, the big stage, back here to Tampa. Tampa has a beautiful boxing legacy, and I’m just happy to be a part of it.”

Standing in Thurman’s way is battle-tested veteran Luis Collazo, who’s held his own against former champs such as Victor Ortiz, Shane Mosley, Ricky Hatton and Andre Berto.

Now, he’s looking to spoil Thurman’s homecoming.
 
Thurman has been a good boxer but he's got to show a lot tonight. he's at the point where just getting the win doesnt mean a lot considering where he wants to be.
 
I'm officially on the Keith Thurman bandwagon now... His mouth can now rival Floyd's, and he is now a much more complete boxer than he was a few years back when he was just a KO artist.

 
Bradley gets rocked in every fight hes in. guys are always hitting him clean.idk what you seeing:confused:

Bradley fights two different ways depending on his opponent. If he thinks that he can get an exciting match out of his opponent, then he will be reckless and aggressive. However, if he thinks that his opponent is a very good boxer, then he will outbox his opponent and actually use his elusiveness. Look at his fights against Pacquiao. Pac had to work very hard to hit him clean and only succeeded a few times due to his superior speed and punch output (which Mayweather does not have), but when Bradley fought Provodnikov, he got hit a bunch of times. Is Siberian Rocky faster than PacMan? Of course not, but Bradley adjusts his style based on how exciting of a fight he thinks that it will be, which is one of the reasons that I like him. He actually makes an effort to play to the crowd, but he really is one of the most skilled boxers in the game, on the low.

Bottom line: He won't fight Mayweather anywhere close to the same way he fought Vargas.
 


PBC on CBS - Frampton vs Gonzalez Jr. & Arreola vs Kassi - July 18 4 PM EST

Undefeated Irish superstar Carl Frampton makes his U.S. professional debut against quick-fisted Mexican Alejandro "Cobrita" Gonzalez Jr. Plus, hard-hitting heavyweight contender Chris Arreola returns to the ring against slick veteran Frederic Kassi.
 




GARCIA vs MALIGNAGGI
JACOBS vs MORA
SAT, AUG 01, 2015 9PM ET Eastern Time / 6PM PT Pacific Time Live on ESPN / ESPN DEPORTES
Barclays Center, Brooklyn, New York
 
Dude got his head bopped around so much that he got up wobbly and went in for a hug at the referee.
 
Look at the size and power difference. Paulie is game but if he wants to finish his career he needs to drop to 140.
 
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