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Single mothers aren't making babies on their own! They mouth these stats like the dude is just this upright, responsible men. The one stat they can never research or care to research is how many bum women had children with bum dudes. I am not one to let women off the hook, I believe fathers are detrimental to the family unit, but single mother stat, single mother stat, single mother stat with nothing said about the dudes just turns into women bashing.
 

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Single mothers aren't making babies on their own! They mouth these stats like the dude is just this upright, responsible men. The one stat they can never research or care to research is how many bum women had children with bum dudes. I am not one to let women off the hook, I believe fathers are detrimental to the family unit, but single mother stat, single mother stat, single mother stat with nothing said about the dudes just turns into women bashing.
true but did you hear what the white lady said? even though the guy helps make the baby, the child is still better off with a father and i believe that with all of my heart.
 

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true but did you hear what the white lady said? even though the guy helps make the baby, the child is still better off with a father and i believe that with all of my heart.

I believe in balance fathers are too hard. If you look at tigers when left with the father they will eat their own litter. Granted we aren't tigers (unless you're from Detroit am I right?!?!?!) but when family is done right the mother is supposed to be the gentle hand while the father rules with an iron fist. Sure they'd be better off comparatively, just like veterans that come out of basic training, that's not something kids need. With women kids become worthless assholes, but with fathers they become Patrick Bateman!
 

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Single mothers aren't making babies on their own! They mouth these stats like the dude is just this upright, responsible men. The one stat they can never research or care to research is how many bum women had children with bum dudes. I am not one to let women off the hook, I believe fathers are detrimental to the family unit, but single mother stat, single mother stat, single mother stat with nothing said about the dudes just turns into women bashing.
I believe in balance fathers are too hard. If you look at tigers when left with the father they will eat their own litter. Granted we aren't tigers (unless you're from Detroit am I right?!?!?!) but when family is done right the mother is supposed to be the gentle hand while the father rules with an iron fist. Sure they'd be better off comparatively, just like veterans that come out of basic training, that's not something kids need. With women kids become worthless assholes, but with fathers they become Patrick Bateman!
I could give a damn about woman bashing, facts are facts. As shown in the video above these young women are being taught they don't need men, but from who? ( their mothers ) not their fathers.

So these hoes deserve to be bashed for their dumb actions. that's the only way change will come. Part your missing is they never need a brother until they get pregnant and most cases they were just fucking the guy and not a actual relationship.

Their was no relationship discussed so why you laying up having unprotected sex? Nigga can only do what you let him outside of rape. Because auntie and momma showed them the system will step in and now it's father bashing time. Of course we all know dead beats but most dudes i know want to raise their children even if its co parenting.
 

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I could give a damn about woman bashing, facts are facts. As shown in the video above these young women are being taught they don't need men, but from who? ( their mothers ) not their fathers.

So these hoes deserve to be bashed for their dumb actions. that's the only way change will come. Part your missing is they never need a brother until they get pregnant and most cases they were just fucking the guy and not a actual relationship.

Their was no relationship discussed so why you laying up having unprotected sex? Nigga can only do what you let him outside of rape. Because auntie and momma showed them the system will step in and now it's father bashing time. Of course we all know dead beats but most dudes i know want to raise their children even if its co parenting.

I am getting hints of arguing vibes right now and I am not disagreeing with you just saying brothas play a role as well that these red pill folks seem to just ignore for monetary reasons.

You said yourself "Their (you used the wrong There, not being a dyck) no relationship discussed so why you laying up having unprotected sex?" This is true with both man and woman. Better yet why are you having sex with a broad that is letting you shot up the club and you know nothing about her as it pertains to motherhood. Just cause she LETS you go RAW doesn't mean you should.

I would NEVER say it is one gender versus another. Personally I have a sister that had a husband and he was young, but he was trying. Fcuked up quite a bit but nothing major he's just a kid. And she divorced him and got with this slick talking "preacher" that totaled her car, didn't have a place of his own to stay so he lived on her dime, knocked her up and bounced to Atlanta when a better option came around. A brother that tried to give his wife everything she wanted and it was never good enough (there were some emotional/mental problems that contributed as well) but she put him out of a house HE BOUGHT. In these scenarios yes these women RUINED not only good relationships but families as well. In my brothers case he's got these two wonderful kids who now have to see how their mom acted towards their dad. Sharing a two bedroom house with three other kids (the cat she married had two of his own) and they get squeezed out cause of who their father is (my brother REALLY should have full custody) They have to walk in and notice everyone stops talking cause the topic of conversation was their mom. My sister got two kids by two different men, where her first husband is CONSTANTLY in his daughters life, while the other father I don't think has ever met his son. And we all came from a two parent home (sister was adopted so there MIGHT be some emotional problems that I don't know about) that had GREAT examples of what fatherhood/husband should look like. What wife/motherhood should look like

I say all of this to say it's not just women at fault, sure they do the most damage, but like Kevin said men are in charge of relationships/marriage. Women determine when and how sex can be had. These men that I mentioned got with these broken ass women. Just cause she lets you hit RAW doesn't mean you have to Just cause she wants to have a relationship doesn't mean you have to be in one. Some of these broads aren't even built for fun just on the off chance they MIGHT get pregnant. There is so much damage that we ignore cause she got a fat ass, or the way she sucks a dyck. Some of these broads just can't help themselves. There is so much damage that the time it would take to unravel that they wouldn't have time for a relationship or families.
 

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I say all of this to say it's not just women at fault, sure they do the most damage, but like Kevin said men are in charge of relationships/marriage. Women determine when and how sex can be had. These men that I mentioned got with these broken ass women. Just cause she lets you hit RAW doesn't mean you have to Just cause she wants to have a relationship doesn't mean you have to be in one. Some of these broads aren't even built for fun just on the off chance they MIGHT get pregnant. There is so much damage that we ignore cause she got a fat ass, or the way she sucks a dyck. Some of these broads just can't help themselves. There is so much damage that the time it would take to unravel that they wouldn't have time for a relationship or families.
This reads like you understand that the women are a great deal of the problem.

Just the few situations that you detailed and the way you describe them seem like the brothers tried their best, mostly to their detriment.

I agree with the last part and what I discern from that is it will take at least 2 generations to course correct some behaviors that plague our relationships & families and I only have one life to live. I can't save the world. I have to walk away and find my peace while I'm still here and able to.

Somewhere there is a psychologically and mentally healthy dark-skinned African young lady that will love my dirty drawls, bear and raise my children right, and cook for me. And all she wants from me is to provide, protect, profess, and be present.
 

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Notice the white lady trying to signal to the young sistah to rake my man over the coals now that she sees that he makes more money? The same thing happened to Dave Foley. He was making big money when he was on News Radio and his child support was A LOT! But the fact that most people have to Google who Dave Foley is should tell you that he wasn't able to maintain that salary as he wasn't getting work, but the court system didn't care. He had to continue to pay that amount and then his ex was nuts, so she refused to have the courts adjust his payments accordingly.
 
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This reads like you understand that the women are a great deal of the problem.

Just the few situations that you detailed and the way you describe them seem like the brothers tried their best, mostly to their detriment.

I agree with the last part and what I discern from that is it will take at least 2 generations to course correct some behaviors that plague our relationships & families and I only have one life to live. I can't save the world. I have to walk away and find my peace while I'm still here and able to.

Somewhere there is a psychologically and mentally healthy dark-skinned African young lady that will love my dirty drawls, bear and raise my children right, and cook for me. And all she wants from me is to provide, protect, profess, and be present.

No doubt! I calls 'em like I sees 'em. If a broad is fcuked up, she's fcuked up. But I can't let my brothas off the hook just cause we belong to the same gender. My brother should not have married his first wife! There were a bunch of red flags before he walked down the aisle, but the way he puts it is that they were doing a long distant relationship and he only got to see the best of her. Nevermind the outburst that she had at family functions or how erratic she'd get when talking about her parents.

My sister love her to death, but she starts fights with MEN and then can't finish them! Then wants ME to fight for her honor while telling me half truths! Her ex-husband witnessed this first hand. My father had to calm me down and got to the bottom of how one of her confrontations started. Cause she would have had me fighting another black man like ninjas in the streets in a very red part of a Michigan suburb. That alone he should have checked out. His thought should have been: 'If she is willing to let her brother possibly get his ass beat (possibly, who am I kidding. The guy that I was squaring up against was TWICE my size and I am already a big dude) and arrested, what would she do to me her husband?'

Yes women as fcuked up as they are, I am hard on men cause we're the leaders! The buck stops with us! Everybody wants us to lead, well leaders don't pass the blame. Babies don't happen without our seed, so stop thinking with your dyck! Marriages don't happen without us dropping to one knee! "Well what about when women propose?" THAT'S BULLSHYT!!!! That relationship has all kinds of dynamics that are fcuked up and show me those relationships 5 years from whenever/if ever the wedding happens! Leaders lead! Heavy is the head that the crown sits upon. Spouting stats about how women are fcuked up doesn't change the fact that you chose to run up in 15 irresponsible broads RAW. Women get to be irresponsible, they aren't the head! We are the head.
 

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A business partner that works in the restaurant business, but you started a construction company! Sure you're great if this was a McDonalds, but people can't eat concrete!!!

Notice her main concern was money? Even though he said 'provisions' she HAS to hear money. What is this video from?
Yea, I noticed that. Almost like the only purpose a man serves is to be her atm. :smh:

Not sure, it looks like that female podcast on Joe Budden's network.
 

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Single mothers aren't making babies on their own! They mouth these stats like the dude is just this upright, responsible men. The one stat they can never research or care to research is how many bum women had children with bum dudes. I am not one to let women off the hook, I believe fathers are detrimental to the family unit, but single mother stat, single mother stat, single mother stat with nothing said about the dudes just turns into women bashing.



Where do you live? Where do you date? How many kids do you have?
 

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Why? I don't mind answering, I am trying to figure out the point to the topic plus it sounds like you're trying to steal my identity! You'll be asking what my mama's last name is.



Well your viewpoints seem independent of what's commonplace between men and females nowadays
 

0utsyder

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Well your viewpoints seem independent of what's commonplace between men and females nowadays

Northern Illinois, but lived most of my life in East (Detroit and surrounding suburbs) and West (Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo) Michigan

What's your definition of date? Long term relationship: I have dated women in the above states. Just fcuking the above states, California and Vermont

I have two kids
 

Heavenlywings77

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Northern Illinois, but lived most of my life in East (Detroit and surrounding suburbs) and West (Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo) Michigan

What's your definition of date? Long term relationship: I have dated women in the above states. Just fcuking the above states, California and Vermont

I have two kids


What has been your relationship with their mother?
 

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Notice the white lady trying to signal to the young sistah to rake my man over the coals now that she sees that he makes more money? The same thing happened to Dave Foley. He was making big money when he was on News Radio and his child support was A LOT! But the fact that most people have to Google who Dave Foley is should tell you that he wasn't able to maintain that salary as he wasn't getting work, but the court system didn't care. He had to continue to pay that amount and then his ex was nuts, so she refused to have the courts adjust his payments accordingly.


Never had to deal with child support or crazy baby mommas, but watching this video I'm amazed I don't see more men going postal and shooting up places.

and this judge seemed fairly down the middle. I can't imagine if he had gotten some man-hating woman judge with a god complex. Bless the souls who have to deal with this.
 

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No doubt! I calls 'em like I sees 'em. If a broad is fcuked up, she's fcuked up. But I can't let my brothas off the hook just cause we belong to the same gender. My brother should not have married his first wife! There were a bunch of red flags before he walked down the aisle, but the way he puts it is that they were doing a long distant relationship and he only got to see the best of her. Nevermind the outburst that she had at family functions or how erratic she'd get when talking about her parents.

My sister love her to death, but she starts fights with MEN and then can't finish them! Then wants ME to fight for her honor while telling me half truths! Her ex-husband witnessed this first hand. My father had to calm me down and got to the bottom of how one of her confrontations started. Cause she would have had me fighting another black man like ninjas in the streets in a very red part of a Michigan suburb. That alone he should have checked out. His thought should have been: 'If she is willing to let her brother possibly get his ass beat (possibly, who am I kidding. The guy that I was squaring up against was TWICE my size and I am already a big dude) and arrested, what would she do to me her husband?'

Yes women as fcuked up as they are, I am hard on men cause we're the leaders! The buck stops with us! Everybody wants us to lead, well leaders don't pass the blame. Babies don't happen without our seed, so stop thinking with your dyck! Marriages don't happen without us dropping to one knee! "Well what about when women propose?" THAT'S BULLSHYT!!!! That relationship has all kinds of dynamics that are fcuked up and show me those relationships 5 years from whenever/if ever the wedding happens! Leaders lead! Heavy is the head that the crown sits upon. Spouting stats about how women are fcuked up doesn't change the fact that you chose to run up in 15 irresponsible broads RAW. Women get to be irresponsible, they aren't the head! We are the head.

Brother, I hear you & I agree for the most part.

However & I'm not attacking you or anyone else...there's a big issue that you are missing.

You aren't addressing "us", as in the BGOL family that basically got the good sense to either not get caught up in this type of situation or have already had the experience of being/currently being in this situation.

You addressing the immature, childish, overly emotional, feminine men that's out there today that's doing this. And what I've learned is that they truly don't give a fuck. They KNOW that Uncle Sam gonna tend to those kids, that he doesn't have to take responsibility. Hell, most of them have NEVER had any true responsibility. They are just as emotional as the women they had the kids by & just as selfish too.

You are asking boys to become men without any idea of what manhood truly is & most times with a constant reminder that they don't have to strive, grind, hustle & level up to be that leader & that man. That is the true problem.

You also want black men to take the reigns of something that is basically out of our control. The BGOL men are mostly from the last generation that had any sense of morals & values that was passed down from a man to a man. We grew up knowing if we fuck the neighborhood hoe, you strap it up. Don't trust no chick with your sperm...take your condom with you & throw it away or put some hot sauce in it. Even with that, you still had brothers that got caught up & passed on those lessons they learned on threads such as this.

But this is a different day. Women should shoulder blame as well. Hell, even more so, as this world is now catered to their every need & demand. These women KNOW that that dude ain't shit & she still going raw. She knows & sees all the red flags & still pursues a future to make a broken family. This has nothing to do with the men (which ain't us & who are really, still little boys). This is all on the WOMAN.

I make this point. If Uncle Sam cancelled out all of the social programs today, how many women do you think would be able to survive without a man's assistance? Now, of those women, how many will be able to find or have the father of the child(ren) do their part?

Women aren't children & they aren't fools. They know good & damn well what they are doing & they also don't give a fuck. And they know that they will be rescued & saved (and not by black ment).

Their emotions, self-image & their hormones are more important than black folks, our struggle, our culture & the diaspora as a whole. Start putting the blame on these women, cause they are more than responsible for this single mom epidemic.
 

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Brother, I hear you & I agree for the most part.

However & I'm not attacking you or anyone else...there's a big issue that you are missing.

It's all love, we are having discussions that might SOUND like they get heated. But it always comes from a place of love. I had to make sure that the brotha @Backshot Bully was aware of this. I over use exclamation points and capitalize certain words, but that is to convey the importance of what I am saying not to confront or challenge what you're saying. Even the brothas that have me blocked on these BGOL streets I love.

You aren't addressing "us", as in the BGOL family that basically got the good sense to either not get caught up in this type of situation or have already had the experience of being/currently being in this situation.

I thought that was a given??? The brothers here are too smart to fall into these traps! Hell all the exotic cars that we drive and the IG models we date we don't have these problems.

You addressing the immature, childish, overly emotional, feminine men that's out there today that's doing this. And what I've learned is that they truly don't give a fuck. They KNOW that Uncle Sam gonna tend to those kids, that he doesn't have to take responsibility. Hell, most of them have NEVER had any true responsibility. They are just as emotional as the women they had the kids by & just as selfish too.

You are asking boys to become men without any idea of what manhood truly is & most times with a constant reminder that they don't have to strive, grind, hustle & level up to be that leader & that man. That is the true problem.

You also want black men to take the reigns of something that is basically out of our control. The BGOL men are mostly from the last generation that had any sense of morals & values that was passed down from a man to a man. We grew up knowing if we fuck the neighborhood hoe, you strap it up. Don't trust no chick with your sperm...take your condom with you & throw it away or put some hot sauce in it. Even with that, you still had brothers that got caught up & passed on those lessons they learned on threads such as this.

But this is a different day. Women should shoulder blame as well. Hell, even more so, as this world is now catered to their every need & demand. These women KNOW that that dude ain't shit & she still going raw. She knows & sees all the red flags & still pursues a future to make a broken family. This has nothing to do with the men (which ain't us & who are really, still little boys). This is all on the WOMAN.

But if she sees red flags in him, HE should see red flags in her. Again I am not giving women a free pass. Not once have I not given these broads a free pass for the bullshyt they pull or try to get away with.

I am sorry man, in this day and age there is no excuse for men not knowing what a man is supposed to be. I get to some extent men that were raised in these toxic ass households. Just a mans "lizard brain" should tell him; "You're the leader! You're a boss! When you talk you're family needs to get shyt done!" I mean, I will rock with these Red Pill grifters to the extent of what men are supposed to be and even then I am treading lightly cause they take it to a toxic level.

I make this point. If Uncle Sam cancelled out all of the social programs today, how many women do you think would be able to survive without a man's assistance? Now, of those women, how many will be able to find or have the father of the child(ren) do their part?

Women aren't children & they aren't fools. They know good & damn well what they are doing & they also don't give a fuck. And they know that they will be rescued & saved (and not by black ment).

Their emotions, self-image & their hormones are more important than black folks, our struggle, our culture & the diaspora as a whole. Start putting the blame on these women, cause they are more than responsible for this single mom epidemic.

I believe most of use are old enough to remember how white girls used to look back in the '90's. Straight IRONING BOARD!!!! White women didn't start getting phat asses cause other women love looking at phat asses. Aerosmith didn't have dancers in their videos with phat asses. I don't want to use the word demand, but the women black men went after had phat asses. WE set the trends and everybody TRIES to keep pace!!! What do you think would happen if we (general black men) started chasing after the woman that would be a better mother than sex partner? What do you think if we (general black men) went after women that wouldn't let us (general black men) hit RAW.

Again I never NOT blame women for their bullshyt, unlike these red pill grifters I also blame men and the choices that they make. All they do is swing the pendulum in the other direction instead of course correct these relationships. And that was the appeal of Kevin. Sure he went in on women, but he gave men HELL! Calling dudes a bitch, challenging simps who thought he would side with them on why they're not getting pussy. You can only blame women for so much when you're supposed to be the boss. It's kinda like Trump in the sense. If all these broads are such horrible people then why did you fcuk her raw?! Trump talks about how these people that left his administration weren't that good to begin with...THEN WHY DID YOU HIRE THEM TO WORK FOR YOU?!?!?!

Stupid people are ALWAYS going to conceive no stopping that. The broads that got all these degrees and jobs, but then getting knocked up by bums or the cat that is a high value man but gets his side chick knocked up. Those are the people I give hell too. You have all the potential to create better families for our people and you fcuk it up and end up damaging children and fcuking up families.
 

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If you know that he is JUST coming out of prison...why are you letting dude run up in you raw?!?!?! Add that he's violent...why is this a person you want to have a sexual relationship with. Also you gotta be a low down motherfcuker to kill someone on Easter Sunday!
 

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PURE FACTS!!!!

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Shyt, I hate fatherhood!!!! Sacrificing my money and sanity for these little assholes!!! Motherfcukers that don't have kids think having a pet and kids are the same and talk reckless like this dude.

I don't get women thinking men don't have to sacrifice shyt!!! I used to be a sexy motherfcuker, once my wife got kids and sick my gym and biking to work TANKED!!!!!

Fathers would love to buy a two door muscle car, but we end up driving the minivan. Men would LOVE to jump in the shower with their wife, but the kids need baths before they go to bed and she got in there first. Men would love a blowjob in the afternoon, BUT THESE MOTHERFCUKERS WANT RAMEN NOODLES FOR LUNCH!!!!!! Saying fathers don't sacrifice when she means the bum ass dudes she let hit RAW don't sacrifice is so disingenuous!
 

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a lot of this is low level thinking and really not productive at all

i didnt always believe this but i certainly do now...the partners you attract are a reflection of you....

want better partners become a better person....

all this finger pointing gets us no where
 
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