The U.S. Will Become A Nation of Renters

black again

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Yes, and if you bought at the top or the bottom matters.

The guy I brought my house from paid 1 mil, the market went down and by 2014 I got it from him for 740. Now it's 1.3. I owe about 460, so it will never drop below what I owe. It's the single best thing I ever did in my life.

Personal sacrifice, no new cars and shit. Grabbed 2 homes when the oil industry was hot. Worse case scenario sell both of the homes and live in my condo.

My post didn’t speak on anything but the fact that prices DO GO DOWN.

edit…prices go down in California
 

Tito_Jackson

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I guess that means there won’t be anymore recessions.

thanks for the heads up
I didn't say that.

The housing crash affected regular folk who were given mortgages they couldn't afford.

Because of tightened regulations and qualifications, sub prime mortgages, which are rebranded as non-prime mortgages, aren't as prevalent, although they do still exist and have increased somewhat over the past couple of years.
 

black again

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I didn't say that.

The housing crash affected regular folk who were given mortgages they couldn't afford.

Because of tightened regulations and qualifications, sub prime mortgages, which are rebranded as non-prime mortgages, aren't as prevalent, although they do still exist and have increased somewhat over the past couple of years.

‘The recession caused people to lose their jobs. Not all 10 million people who lost their homes had sub prime mortgages.

You're correct that there aren’t as many sub primes now, but if you lose your job, it doesn’t matter what kinda mortgage you have, if you can’t pay it.

We’ve had recessions and depressions before. We’ll have them again.

We’ve had housing bubbles burst. We’ll have them again.

We’ve had huge corrections in the stock market. We’ll have them again.

Notice a pattern?

We’ve had more than one world war…

We’ve had multiple pandemics..

History repeats itself and there are NO ABSOLUTES
 

Tito_Jackson

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‘The recession caused people to lose their jobs. Not all 10 million people who lost their homes had sub prime mortgages.

You're correct that there aren’t as many sub primes now, but if you lose your job, it doesn’t matter what kinda mortgage you have, if you can’t pay it.

We’ve had recessions and depressions before. We’ll have them again.

We’ve had housing bubbles burst. We’ll have them again.

We’ve had huge corrections in the stock market. We’ll have them again.

Notice a pattern?

We’ve had more than one world war…

We’ve had multiple pandemics..

History repeats itself and there are NO ABSOLUTES
I agree.

And I never said we can't have a housing crash. I specifically said we will not have one "like before" due to the parameters being so different.
 

LordSinister

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My post didn’t speak on anything but the fact that prices DO GO DOWN.

edit…prices go down in California
They do, my point is that I currently owe less than my home sold for when it was built, and less than I paid for in my current home that just paid for my condo. Timing is everything.
 

Dr. Truth

QUACK!
BGOL Investor
My post was directed at @Dr. Truth.

He said it's a fact that housing prices in Ca. don't go down...

Funniest thing I heard all day..
They don’t go down , you think there’s going to be another 2008? Banks aren’t giving those fake ass loans out like that anymore. That’s what caused the crash . If you think that phenomenon will happen again you on one. Things will level off and stay where they are but nothing is going down other than rent prices .
 

The Plutonian

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The best feeling I had was when my house was paid off before I got out the military. My Daughter and her husband been searching for a house at a reasonable price but the realtor been trying to get them into renting cause he claims he has more rentals inventory than house for sell unless they want to buy a new built home (starting price 150K for a 2 to 3 bedroom)

If you are a 100% total and permanent disabled veteran you get a huge break on taxes and mostly don’t have to pay much closing on your home you buy again. As you know you can actually use your VA home loan up to 3 times if needed and if you didn’t use your ceiling approved money you can buy another house if you can afford it. And if you were in a VA loan before the pandemic it’s hard to lose your house. I mean it’s got to be really bad for them to take it. I almost came close to selling my house but the market is ridiculous now, the money I’d pocket on the equity and payoff would just go into the new house so I’m here chilling.
 

black again

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They don’t go down , you think there’s going to be another 2008? Banks aren’t giving those fake ass loans out like that anymore. That’s what caused the crash . If you think that phenomenon will happen again you on one. Things will level off and stay where they are but nothing is going down other than rent prices .

Dude, when I wanna know about Chop Suey...you're first on the list.

You and your BIL know nothing about housing...

But ignorance is bliss..
 

Dr. Truth

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black again

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The Plutonian

The Anti Bullshitter
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I signed a contract on a new construction here in Houston back in October the price was $254,000. Closed and moved in 2 weeks ago. Today the same house model in the subdivision is being sold for over $315k smh.

My buddy in Texas house almost doubled. He only paid 233k so he’s renting it out at its ceiling of. $2500. His mortgage is a little over 1k, his refi rate is 2.5 :eek2:
 

Dr. Truth

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The headline says 2022 fuckin moron.

:lol:

Not only were your facts wrong...

California was dead last in 08

:lol::lol2::roflmao::roflmao3:

You can't make this kinda ignorance up
I hate dumb niggas who use laugh emojis to cover for their stupidity . You’re a fucking idiot. California is unique due to investors buying up inventory , housing shortages and high paying jobs. Housing prices will not drop here unless there is another massive recession like 2008 which is a once in a lifetime phenomenon. You can nervously fake laugh all you want but you don’t live here or know what the fuck you’re talking about. You stupid fuck
 

black again

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BGOL Investor
Worst U.S. housing market in 2008? California!
By ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
January 26, 2009 at 12:39 p.m.
California’s housing market grabbed a dubious honor: Worst in the nation in 2008!
First American Loan Performance’s year-end stats show:
  • Home prices fell in 35 states, with California worst at down 26.9%.

@Dr. Truth ..

Enjoy this again on me..

:roflmao3: :lol: :bravo: :bravo:
 

black again

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I hate dumb niggas who use laugh emojis to cover for their stupidity . You’re a fucking idiot. California is unique due to investors buying up inventory , housing shortages and high paying jobs. Housing prices will not drop here unless there is another massive recession like 2008 which is a once in a lifetime phenomenon. You can nervously fake laugh all you want but you don’t live here or know what the fuck you’re talking about. You stupid fuck

Now its a once in a lifetime phenom...

Nice try...keep tryna wiggle off that hook.
 

black again

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BGOL Investor
@Dr. Truth Timeline of ignorance and my reply..or how to say something stupid AF and try to wiggle out of it...

1. Facts..Ca. prices don't drop.
proven completely wrong...dead last in the nation. The only way you wouldn't know that is if you were a child in 08. Which I'm starting to believe.

2. Bad sub prime loans caused the crash.
no a recession did. Not all foreclosures were sub prime. They were just the scapegoats...you wouldn't know a sub prime loan from a sub sandwich tho.

3.Well that was 12 years ago...14 actually, but who's counting..
I never gave a timeframe...just destroyed your notion that prices don't drop...but whether 12 or 14 years, that doesn't change how dumb your initial statement was.

Now lemme see if I can predict his next asinine statement..


Oh...forgot these for all the smiles you put on my face :roflmao: :roflmao3: :lol: :roflmao2::lol2:
 
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meilmarc

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My buddy in Texas house almost doubled. He only paid 233k so he’s renting it out at its ceiling of. $2500. His mortgage is a little over 1k, his refi rate is 2.5 :eek2:

The last house was just sold at 364000. I could sale my crib now for over a 100k profit but im staying put. Perfect location, 15 minutes from downtime and the med center, multiple freeways to move around, traffic aint bad.
 

COINTELPRO

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It takes you 10 to 15 years to save up for a down payment, many people don't consider home ownership until their 30's. Than it is another 20-30 years of stress to pay off some mortgage that may cripple your earning potential since you are locked into a small area of a city. I have seen people forced to drive 2 hours to work because they can't pick up and move closer to their job. You have to factor in your life expectancy and years you can have title and own property.

Many people are really real estate speculator, using the banks money to buy something, hoping it will appreciate markedly above what you owe. Than you have to go into the market and buy an overpriced house to replace what you had unless you move to another area of the country. When you buy stock and it appreciates significantly, you don't have to replace the stock you sold because it is essential. Capital gains should be calculated for a second house you own or that takes into account the replacement price you pay.

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We need to do what other countries are doing, which is being restrictive on lending for houses, requiring cash payment. Look at the delinquency rate which raises prices because people are inflating the market that should not have been in that house.

Let say I keep you as an indentured servant/slave like me for 90% of your life, with a promise to make you free for the remaining 10%. I than claim you are free become you will not be my property when you reach 70 years old. This is similar to mortgages. Many companies lease their retail stores for 30 years, why can't you for 10 years or so. You can always sign 5, 10 year leases for property.

Another stat to look at is how many houses are paid off free and clear, places like DC it is super low, indentured servant/slave. Masta promises to free you when you get Social Security. I am trapped in a shit hole racist city, just glad I am not dealing with real estate.

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850credit

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Has anyone tried house hacking? I want to do that with my next purchase.

Not all my spare rooms but definitely the basement at minimum.

If I could get 3 bedrooms 1 bath and a kitchenette in a basement I would rent them out for 600 each. Separate entrance...never have to see them.
 

Madrox

Vaya Con Dio
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Has anyone tried house hacking? I want to do that with my next purchase.

Not all my spare rooms but definitely the basement at minimum.

If I could get 3 bedrooms 1 bath and a kitchenette in a basement I would rent them out for 600 each. Separate entrance...never have to see them.

Im trying to do some variation of HH with my first purchase..
 

jack walsh13

Jack Walsh 13
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@Dr. Truth Timeline of ignorance and my reply..or how to say something stupid AF and try to wiggle out of it...

1. Facts..Ca. prices don't drop.
proven completely wrong...dead last in the nation. The only way you wouldn't know that is if you were a child in 08. Which I'm starting to believe.

2. Bad sub prime loans caused the crash.
no a recession did. Not all foreclosures were sub prime. They were just the scapegoats...you wouldn't know a sub prime loan from a sub sandwich tho.

3.Well that was 12 years ago...14 actually, but who's counting..
I never gave a timeframe...just destroyed your notion that prices don't drop...but whether 12 or 14 years, that doesn't change how dumb your initial statement was.

Now lemme see if I can predict his next asinine statement..


Oh...forgot these for all the smiles you put on my face :roflmao: :roflmao3: :lol: :roflmao2::lol2:
:roflmao2: :roflmao2: :roflmao2: :roflmao2: :roflmao2: :roflmao2: :roflmao2:

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shaddyvillethug

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@Dr. Truth Timeline of ignorance and my reply..or how to say something stupid AF and try to wiggle out of it...

1. Facts..Ca. prices don't drop.
proven completely wrong...dead last in the nation. The only way you wouldn't know that is if you were a child in 08. Which I'm starting to believe.

2. Bad sub prime loans caused the crash.
no a recession did. Not all foreclosures were sub prime. They were just the scapegoats...you wouldn't know a sub prime loan from a sub sandwich tho.

3.Well that was 12 years ago...14 actually, but who's counting..
I never gave a timeframe...just destroyed your notion that prices don't drop...but whether 12 or 14 years, that doesn't change how dumb your initial statement was.

Now lemme see if I can predict his next asinine statement..


Oh...forgot these for all the smiles you put on my face :roflmao: :roflmao3: :lol: :roflmao2::lol2:
You owned that faggit

he doesn’t have houses
 

850credit

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Anyone hired a property management company? I'm growing tired of pressing tenants for rent collection.
 
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