TRUMP INDICTED! TRUMP CONVICTED! GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES! ... and more convictions yet to come!!!
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Most of Donald Trump’s family are trash. You hear me pure trash.
Now...this baffles me. We really cannot criticize other countries democratic processes when we can't get a decent candidate. 71 felony charges and still the leading Republican contender for presidency. Still controlling the fate of this country....this should be alarming.
LMBAOOOOOOO
It’s a corny story to appeal to a certain group of low lives.
Why would you expect a rich republicans who held Bible study with Fred Flintstone to have any interest in “justice”?
OH THIS IS GOOD!!
A Pennsylvania Republican lawmakers lawsuit against a local newspaper just backfired spectacularly, exposing DAMNING 2020 election emails between top state officials and the Trump administration.
State Senator Dan Laughlins defamation lawsuit against "The Erie Reader" opened him up to discovery, and ended up revealing a series of emails pertaining to Trump's pressure campaign on Pennsylvania Republicans to illegally overthrow the election in 2020.
High level communications between far-right gubernatorial candidate Doug Mastriano, and member of Trump legal team Christina Cobb, is part of the information that's been released.
In those emails, Mastriano expressed his concern that Trump's proposal to overturn the election was "illegal." The emails also detail how Trump PERSONALLY called Mastriano and pressured him to overturn the election, and even furnished false documents about Dominion Voting Systems "rigging the election against Biden" in an effort to do so.
“We’re not saying a word on this crap,” Laughlin said in an email after he got word of the plan, worried about his own parties attempt to unlawfully overturn the election.
It seems like the emails implicate Trump in yet another crime. Unreal.
It’s Georgia all over again
So what will happen. Absolutely NOTHING
Good morning. We’re covering Trump’s polling problems, the Supreme Court and a race around the world. |
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A Republican split |
The 50 percent threshold in a poll can sometimes be distracting. When more than half of people give a certain answer, it often becomes the dominant message to emerge from the poll question. It is the answer that appears to have won. Yet the most important information may nonetheless be lurking elsewhere. |
Consider the surveys over the past week that have asked Americans their opinions about the federal charges against Donald Trump. Here are the results of an ABC News/Ipsos survey, which were similar to other poll results: |
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On first glance, a central message seems to be strong and continuing support for Trump — because a majority of Republicans said that the charges were not serious. Most Republicans also said that he should not have been charged with a crime and that the indictment was politically motivated. |
Media headlines have emphasized these pro-Trump majorities. At a dinner with Democratic donors this week, Jill Biden said that she had just read one of these headlines and found it “a little shocking.” Republican voters, Biden said, “don’t care about the indictment.” |
To be clear, Trump’s enduring support among Republicans is an important story. If it continues, he is likely to become the party’s nominee. That support is a sign that political polarization in the U.S. has become so intense that most Republican voters appear to care more about loyalty to Trump than about the possibility that he damaged national security by allowing sensitive intelligence to circulate. |
But the existence of an enduring pro-Trump Republican majority is not the only important conclusion from the recent polls. A couple of subtler patterns in the data are more worrisome for Trump. |
A decisive minority? |
First, look at the relative sizes of the minority opinions in each category in that chart above: There are considerably more Republicans who consider the charges serious than Democrats or independents who do not think they’re serious. The indictment divides Republicans more than it divides Democrats. |
A basic lesson of politics is that you win when the public debate is focused on issues that divide your opponent’s supporters and unite yours. Affirmative action, for example, is a problematic topic for the Democratic Party, even though most of its voters support the policy, because there are more Democrats who oppose it than Republicans who support it. (The Times recently explained how this dynamic led to a landslide defeat for an affirmative-action referendum in California.) For similar reasons, undocumented immigration creates political trouble for Democrats. |
Problematic subjects for the Republican Party, on the other hand, include health care access, the minimum wage, same-sex marriage and, especially, abortion bans. The recent polls show that Trump’s behavior also falls into this category. Republicans who think he should have been charged with a crime outnumber Democrats who think he should not have been. “Trump splits the party,” says Jonathan Bernstein, a political scientist who writes for Bloomberg Opinion. “No, not evenly, but even an 80/20 split is a real split.” |
Another problematic sign for Trump is that the number of Republicans bothered by his legal problems seems to be growing. So is the number among independents. More voters are bothered by the case against him — on charges of taking classified material and trying to conceal that he did — than by the earlier New York State charges related to hush money for a sexual encounter: |
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The bottom line |
The 2024 election is still almost a year and a half away, and the prosecutors trying to hold Trump accountable will need to keep making their case not only in courtrooms but also to the public if they hope to convince most Americans of the seriousness of the charges. But those prosecutors do not need to convince most Republicans in order to succeed. |
Just look at what happened in the 2022 midterm elections. A small slice of Republican voters was unhappy enough with Trump’s anti-democratic behavior (and the Supreme Court’s abortion ruling) to defect from the party, helping Democrats keep control of the Senate. The last two presidential elections offer a similar case study: Trump lost the presidency in 2020 partly because 11 percent of typical Republican voters supported Joe Biden, up from 9 percent who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016, according to Catalist, a data firm. |
Fifty percent isn’t the only number that matters when you’re looking at a subgroups in poll. Small shifts within each party can determine election outcomes. |
Some Republicans denounce Trump over classified documents but question DoJ’s motives | Republicans | The Guardian
Chris Christie calls ex-president a ‘petulant child’ while Mike Pence vows to ‘clean house’ at the justice department
Yep, some of them do not have a choice because it’s only going to get worse for Trump.Some Republicans denounce Trump over classified documents but question DoJ’s motives | Republicans | The Guardian
Chris Christie calls ex-president a ‘petulant child’ while Mike Pence vows to ‘clean house’ at the justice departmentamp.theguardian.com
Man, fuck John Kelly. He spent way too much energy polishing that turd when was working for him. No one gives a shit about his "insider" views now.
And I have been saying this for years. Every time one of his people gets busted, maligned, or disagrees with him, he's the first to throw them under the bus by calling them weak or useless. But these are his people. He's responsible.
And I still question why so many people stay loyal to him when throwing staff under the bus is his signature move.
Good read
Surprise! Judge Cannon Isn’t Running The Trump Documents Trial. Jack Smith Is
By Joseph "Murfster35" Murphy -June 16, 202329
I love it when a plan comes together. We haven’t even had the preliminary hearing yet, and already Special Counsel Jack Smith is showing that he has more courtroom strategic brains for breakfast than Judge Cannon and the entire Trump legal team have had since conception.
During Trump’s arraignment on Tuesday, Judge Aileen Cannon was noticeably absent, which means that things went smoothly, but still started media conjecture with her status in the case. But then an event in the hearing occurred that took all of the attention off of Cannon, and put it firmly on Jack Smith instead.
Towards the end of the hearing, the judge subbing for Cannon asked the lead prosecutor what kind of bond restrictions the government wanted to impose. To which the prosecutor replied, None, Your Honor. Surprised, the judge persisted, You’re not requesting a cash bail requirement? No, Your Honor. You’re not requesting that the defendant turn over his passports? No, Your Honor. You don’t want to impose any travel restrictions? No, Your Honor. You don’t want to impose any restrictions on the defendant talking to prospective witnesses? No, Your Honor.
The shocked judge went ahead and put in place an order barring Trump from communicating with any potential witnesses or his co-defendant. But it was too late, the media was already going ape sh*t. Why was Smith treating Trump like the rich brat at his birthday party? Why didn’t they hit him with the normal travel restrictions, pestering him with having to clear campaign travel through the judge? Why didn’t they at least muzzle him from trying to coerce potential witnesses on their testimony?
Oh ye of little faith. Here’s why. How often have I said it? If you take a shot at the King, it had better not miss. And today The New York Times is reporting that it’s because Smith has his eye trained solely on pulling off a head shot.
According to The Times, Smith is playing a long game, or more appropriately in this case, a short game. Trump’s defense plan is to try to obstruct and delay everything until the trial bumps up against the 2024 general election campaign. And it’s never too early to start.
Want cash bond? Trump will ask for a hearing in order to argue that with his notoriety, personal recognizance should be sufficient. A delay. Hit Trump with travel restrictions? Another hearing to complain that Trump is running for President, and clearing his travel would be an undue hardship. Bar Trump from speaking to witnesses? Another hearing on First Amendment rights. Trump is running for President, can the government claim that something he says in a campaign speech is a direct reference to a witness? Smith made the tactical decision to avoid all those hearings and delays. You’re not going to shut Trump up anyway, so let it go.
Now let’s introduce Judge Cannon into the equation. And again, I am making no judgements on her previous ruling missteps. Especially since yesterday she issued her first ruling from the bench in the trial. And that ruling was for the Trump defense to complete their Security Clearance Applications, and giving them until Tuesday to turn them in. Not some random Tuesday in September, next Tuesday. Maybe judge Cannon missed Tuesdays hearing because she was brushing up on the rules for the Rocket Docket.
But today Jack Smith pulled a move that I can only describe inspired. Smith sent a Protective Order to Judge Cannon, stating that the prosecution was now prepared to release all non classified material to the defense under the Rules of Discovery. Smith requested that Judge Cannon issue an order prohibiting the dissemination of any information in the files to the public by the defense. The stated reason for the order was the fact that there are still multiple active investigations under way, and premature disclosure could screw them up.
This is a master class in legal tactics. Normally the way it goes, the indictments are unsealed, and the arraignment is held within 48 hours. During the arraignment the judge names a date for the preliminary hearing. And at the preliminary hearing, the judge opens the discovery window. The judge asks the prosecution how much sh*t they’re dumping on the defense, and then the defense requests a time window to go through the documents. Trump is counting on expanding that window as much as possible to delay the trial.
Look, Smith isn’t just running circles around Trump’s defense team, he’s running them around Judge Cannon too. Trump’s defense team wants endless delays and hearings. Smith just deprived them of that oxygen by not giving them any reasons to ask foe hearings on Trump’s bail conditions. And now, Judge Cannon hasn’t even set the preliminary hearing date to open discovery, and Smith is already handing over all of his non classified material for the Trump team to go through. Which makes it harder for the Trump team, 6-8 weeks from now at the preliminary hearing, to ask for 4-6 months for discovery when they’ve already 90% of the stuff for 6-8 weeks.
This isn’t Jack Smith’s first ride at this rodeo. And if Judge Cannon isn’t quite sure how to run a rocket Docket, then Smith will be right there to keep her on the rails. When I mentally envision the Trump defense team, I can only see a bunch of goofs in dumpy suits, staring out at a swamp with a sign that says, Here there be tygers. Never a dull moment.
Surprise! Judge Cannon Isn’t Running The Trump Documents Trial. Jack Smith Is
By Joseph "Murfster35" Murphy -June 16, 202329
I love it when a plan comes together. We haven’t even had the preliminary hearing yet, and already Special Counsel Jack Smith is showing that he has more courtroom strategic brains for breakfast than Judge Cannon and the entire Trump legal team have had since conception.
During Trump’s arraignment on Tuesday, Judge Aileen Cannon was noticeably absent, which means that things went smoothly, but still started media conjecture with her status in the case. But then an event in the hearing occurred that took all of the attention off of Cannon, and put it firmly on Jack Smith instead.
Towards the end of the hearing, the judge subbing for Cannon asked the lead prosecutor what kind of bond restrictions the government wanted to impose. To which the prosecutor replied, None, Your Honor. Surprised, the judge persisted, You’re not requesting a cash bail requirement? No, Your Honor. You’re not requesting that the defendant turn over his passports? No, Your Honor. You don’t want to impose any travel restrictions? No, Your Honor. You don’t want to impose any restrictions on the defendant talking to prospective witnesses? No, Your Honor.
The shocked judge went ahead and put in place an order barring Trump from communicating with any potential witnesses or his co-defendant. But it was too late, the media was already going ape sh*t. Why was Smith treating Trump like the rich brat at his birthday party? Why didn’t they hit him with the normal travel restrictions, pestering him with having to clear campaign travel through the judge? Why didn’t they at least muzzle him from trying to coerce potential witnesses on their testimony?
Oh ye of little faith. Here’s why. How often have I said it? If you take a shot at the King, it had better not miss. And today The New York Times is reporting that it’s because Smith has his eye trained solely on pulling off a head shot.
According to The Times, Smith is playing a long game, or more appropriately in this case, a short game. Trump’s defense plan is to try to obstruct and delay everything until the trial bumps up against the 2024 general election campaign. And it’s never too early to start.
Want cash bond? Trump will ask for a hearing in order to argue that with his notoriety, personal recognizance should be sufficient. A delay. Hit Trump with travel restrictions? Another hearing to complain that Trump is running for President, and clearing his travel would be an undue hardship. Bar Trump from speaking to witnesses? Another hearing on First Amendment rights. Trump is running for President, can the government claim that something he says in a campaign speech is a direct reference to a witness? Smith made the tactical decision to avoid all those hearings and delays. You’re not going to shut Trump up anyway, so let it go.
Now let’s introduce Judge Cannon into the equation. And again, I am making no judgements on her previous ruling missteps. Especially since yesterday she issued her first ruling from the bench in the trial. And that ruling was for the Trump defense to complete their Security Clearance Applications, and giving them until Tuesday to turn them in. Not some random Tuesday in September, next Tuesday. Maybe judge Cannon missed Tuesdays hearing because she was brushing up on the rules for the Rocket Docket.
But today Jack Smith pulled a move that I can only describe inspired. Smith sent a Protective Order to Judge Cannon, stating that the prosecution was now prepared to release all non classified material to the defense under the Rules of Discovery. Smith requested that Judge Cannon issue an order prohibiting the dissemination of any information in the files to the public by the defense. The stated reason for the order was the fact that there are still multiple active investigations under way, and premature disclosure could screw them up.
This is a master class in legal tactics. Normally the way it goes, the indictments are unsealed, and the arraignment is held within 48 hours. During the arraignment the judge names a date for the preliminary hearing. And at the preliminary hearing, the judge opens the discovery window. The judge asks the prosecution how much sh*t they’re dumping on the defense, and then the defense requests a time window to go through the documents. Trump is counting on expanding that window as much as possible to delay the trial.
Look, Smith isn’t just running circles around Trump’s defense team, he’s running them around Judge Cannon too. Trump’s defense team wants endless delays and hearings. Smith just deprived them of that oxygen by not giving them any reasons to ask foe hearings on Trump’s bail conditions. And now, Judge Cannon hasn’t even set the preliminary hearing date to open discovery, and Smith is already handing over all of his non classified material for the Trump team to go through. Which makes it harder for the Trump team, 6-8 weeks from now at the preliminary hearing, to ask for 4-6 months for discovery when they’ve already 90% of the stuff for 6-8 weeks.
This isn’t Jack Smith’s first ride at this rodeo. And if Judge Cannon isn’t quite sure how to run a rocket Docket, then Smith will be right there to keep her on the rails. When I mentally envision the Trump defense team, I can only see a bunch of goofs in dumpy suits, staring out at a swamp with a sign that says, Here there be tygers. Never a dull moment.
She has no choice, but to play ball. The federal government is watching her every move like a hawk and her banking accounts in America and abroad.
Yawn
I knew they was going to grant this. Trump really have no other cards to play at this point, the only thing he could be right now is an obstructionist which would get him in more trouble.
New Jersey joins the race...
If anything my state(Arizona) needs to get in on this since quite a few of the January 6 rioters came from here
Plus Kari Lake need to go along with them with those threats of hers
As with all things take with a grain of salt
BREAKING: New York Times drops Monday bombshell, reveals that Trump many land a cushy plea deal because the evidence that will be used by Special Counsel Jack Smith at the trial is so top secret that it would endanger national security if it went public.
But it gets even worse…
The New York Times also reported that Trump is likely to threaten to reveal the top secret information at the trial as a way to “pressure” federal prosecutors to drop charges entirely.
The New York Times report continued, declaring that it will be nearly impossible to give Trump a “fair trial” when the evidence against him is so classified that it cannot even be shown to a jury.
The New York Times continued, revealing that legal experts say that it is “routine” for federal prosecutors who are put in this predicament to offer a “very attractive plea deal” because America’s intelligence community is so afraid of these top secret documents going public during trial.
This is a red-alert, folks. We can’t let Trump get away with this…
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BREAKING: New York Times drops Monday bombshell, reveals that Trump many land a cushy plea deal because the evidence that will be used by Special Counsel Jack Smith at the trial is so top secret that it would endanger national security if it went public.
But it gets even worse…
The New York Times also reported that Trump is likely to threaten to reveal the top secret information at the trial as a way to “pressure” federal prosecutors to drop charges entirely.
The New York Times report continued, declaring that it will be nearly impossible to give Trump a “fair trial” when the evidence against him is so classified that it cannot even be shown to a jury.
The New York Times continued, revealing that legal experts say that it is “routine” for federal prosecutors who are put in this predicament to offer a “very attractive plea deal” because America’s intelligence community is so afraid of these top secret documents going public during trial.
This is a red-alert, folks. We can’t let Trump get away with this…
Please retweet and ❤️ if you think that traitor Trump must NEVER be offered a cushy plea deal — and consider investing in Tribel, a “woke” new Twitter competitor that banned Trump and is currently doing a round of equity crowdfunding and just blew past $1.6 million raised from ober 4,000 of its users. If you want to own a small piece of what is quickly becoming the “next big thing” in social media, here is the link to do so, wefunder.com/Tribel. You can invest as little as $100 — or as much as you’d like. Here’s the link to download the new Tribel app that Elon Musk is so afraid of: tribel.app.link/okwPIHYCIqb
It makes me think of this joke.
Two guys are driving through Texas when they get pulled over by a state trooper. The trooper walks up, taps on the window with his nightstick, the driver rolls down the window, and the trooper smacks him in the head with the stick. The driver says, Why'd you do that? The trooper says, You're in Texas, son. When I pull you over, you'll have your license ready. Driver says, I'm sorry, officer, I'm not from around here. The trooper runs a check on the guy's license, and he's clean. He gives the guy his license back and walks around to the passenger side and taps on the window. The passenger rolls his window down, and the trooper smacks him with the nightstick. The passenger says, What’d you do that for? The cop says, Just making your wishes come true. The passenger says, Huh? The cop says, I know that two miles down the road you're gonna say, 'I wish that SOB would've tried that with me.
Everyone is tough when they don't have to prove it. The real tough people would have never supported Trump in the first place, not wait until shit was disastrous and suddenly develop a conscience.
Again, you see why the good lawyers do not want anything to do with him
Jack Smith Provides TFG with list of 84 Witnesses in Stolen Docs Case
From The New York Times : Jack Smith, the special counsel, has asked a federal judge to move back the start of the trial of former President Donald J. Trump and his co-defendant, Walt Nauta, in ...
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Owen Shroyer has a Cooperating Deal. Was at Willard Hotel for War Room Mtgs. Handing Over Comms...
UPDATE: Monday, Jun 26, 2023 · 1:39:32 AM +00:00 · AlyoshaKaramazov Erased references to long-tailed furry creatures. He was adamant that he was an innocent man. Until he changed his plea to guilty. His change-of-plea decision was first reported...
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