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Crazy when I was at the movies the previews came on. I dont like to watch them, and i heard certain voices and i told my wife who did it. Then i actually watched it and was right, it wasnt a big mystery.

I actually thought Ana Armas was the main character.
 

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whelp I see you both are NOT in the minority with this opinion.


Please Spare Us From a Knives Out Cinematic Universe
Netflix’s plan for two sequels could turn what was a fun standalone mystery into the endless content loops demanded by today’s film culture.
BY KYLE TURNER
April 2, 2021
Daniel Craig in Knives Out, 2019.Courtesy of Claire Folger for Lionsgate


The genre I have turned to the most in the last year has been the murder mystery, with one film in particular as a kind of comfort watching north star: Sidney Lumet’s 1974 adaptation of the Agatha Christie novel Murder on the Orient Express. I went through a phase of watching the British TV series Agatha Christie’s Marple series starring Geraldine McEwan, as well as some of Poirot starring David Suchet. Lately, I’ve been winding down with Murder, She Wrote. As a friend put it to me, the comfort in these tales of greed, fury, love, and anger is their finality, particularly within a time of uncertainty. We get to watch master sleuths have all the answers while we sit, barely having any.
Not unlike a donut, the nice thing about a murder mystery is that it’s a kind of closed loop. At least usually—it was announced this week that Netflix has plopped down a bag of money (to the tune of $450 million) to nab the sequel rights to Rian Johnson’s enormously successful and incredibly entertaining 2019 whodunit Knives Out. This news was met with excitement by most, but for me, it’s caution. The deal is for not just one, but two sequels, and so it feels as if the promise of a confident, closed ending might end up being broken as Knives Out succumbs to the endless loops of the cumbersome cinematic universes demanded by today’s film culture.
Lumet’s Murder—starring the likes of Sean Connery, Lauren Bacall, Ingrid Bergman, John Gielgud, and Albert Finney— was released at a curious time. Hollywood was changing the kinds of films it wanted to make and for whom, with a wave of younger filmmakers responding to culture and politics in stylishly confrontational ways: Films like Bonnie and Clyde, The Graduate and In the Heat of Night shocked audiences with frank approaches to violence, race relations, sex and the uncertainty of entering adulthood. Although Murder on the Orient Express came from the director behind 12 Angry Men, The Pawnbroker, Serpico, and Dog Day Afternoon, it had a kind of glamour that was beginning to fade in favor of feisty seriousness.

The film was financially successful and scored a handful of Oscar nominations, leading to 1978’s Death on the Nile and another four Christie adaptations. These were fairly nostalgic, enjoyable ventures that presented their legacy performers as crown jewels who shone so brightly, they almost blinded one from the murder at hand. They weren’t cool, but they existed as a kind of gorgeous, self-contained alternative to the edgy film culture of the time. They weren’t really sequels so much as the cinematic version of a line of books with the same character sitting on the shelf, not so different from James Bond movies: a new cast, a new adventure, everything you want basically on the box.



But the way we engage with franchises has dramatically changed now. While not solely responsible for the advent of the “cinematic universe” (that credit goes to Universal Studios’ horror movies), Marvel Studios has crafted expectations for what sequels are supposed to be and what boxes they are designed to check off. Stinger scenes, a web-like narrative, part of a larger, unwieldy trans-media experience encompassing movies, tv, spin-offs, etc; each one both a mild peel back of a character’s origin, but mostly an advertisement for the next thing, which is itself an advertisement for the next thing, and so on.

Not even James Bond is safe from this, as the Daniel Craig cycle has discarded its anthology approach for a broader, Nolan-esque narrative interrogating Bond’s past. Kenneth Branagh, who is following Lumet’s starry model for his own Christie adaptations, might be caving into the “cinematic universe” impulse. And with DC’s own Extended Universe, the norm for nearly all franchises now is gargantuan plot interconnectedness with no end in sight. This is true of even something like Ryan Murphy’s anthology series American Horror Story, once home to isolated stories and now a hellscape of crossover seasons that enable obnoxious AHS universe YouTube videos. Fans are disappointed whenever one of these properties ends up actually finishing its story, as with the hopes for a second season of Damen Lindelof’s Watchmen miniseries, and similar calls for a continuation of Disney+’s WandaVision.

Part of the joy of watching Rian Johnson’s Knives Out, a very popular movie, was in its nostalgia, a throwback to the star-studded puzzles of yore, and, yes, in its certain end. Its completeness. Johnson, a sharp, thoughtful, and challenging director whose work spans genres and who has a particular soft spot for those aforementioned murder mysteries, knows exactly how to present a panorama of suspects, dress up a mansion as a whole universe unto itself, and give the audience a delicious sense of finality. Even his trip to a galaxy far, far away in Star Wars: The Last Jedi engaged with the idea of endings. Maybe he plans to recreate the Christie model, following his detective Benoit Blanc (Craig) from caper to caper. If so, I welcome the sequels with open arms as a safe haven from the homogeneity of the cinematic universe. But if they do end up turning Detective Benoit Blanc’s world into a chain of donuts rather than a variety of different and exciting pastries, well, that’ll be a case that leaves me cold.
 

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I loved "KNIVES OUT".
It so reminded me of 80s films like "CLUE" and "DEATH TRAP".
Though I already guessed early on who the "suspect" was,
It was "getting there" that was thoughtful and FUN!

BUT...
I seriously doubt it deserves a "Universe" of its own.
And that Huge-ASS NetFlix deal.
It just takes the "specialty" out of the first film.

Hollywood is so franchise-laden these days.
 

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Finished seeing it..it was cool.. wonder is the sequel gonna be about the family trying to kill her or get their money back..that look they gave her at the end
 
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Daniel Craig has his Knives Out in first photos from Netflix sequel
Let's peel back more layers of this onion.
Nick Romano
By Nick Romano
August 22, 2022 at 10:28 AM EDT

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Netflix unveiled the first photos from Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery, director Rian Johnson's sequel to his instant hit whodunnit, Knives Out.

The first film saw Blanc investigating the death of an acclaimed mystery author, Harlan Thrombey (Christopher Plummer), and looking to his spoiled family, as well as his kind-hearted caretaker (Ana De Armas), to find the potential killer. Glass Onion will now see Blanc venturing to Greece as he unravels the circumstances behind another sudden death.

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The cast of 'Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery' come to the table to discuss a new killer head-scratcher. | CREDIT: NETFLIX
Edward Norton is seen in the photos as Miles Bron, a tech billionaire hosting some of his closest friends on his private Greek island. Those guests are played by Janelle Monáe, Kathryn Hahn, Leslie Odom Jr., Jessica Henwick, Madelyn Cline, Kate Hudson, and Dave Bautista. It's during this Mediterranean getaway that someone winds up dead.

Monáe also gets a spotlight in the imagery, which depicts Johnson directing the singer-actress in a scene filmed in Villa 20 at the Amanzoe in Porto Heli.

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'Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery' director Rian Johnson guides Janelle Monáe through a scene. | CREDIT: JOHN WILSON/NETFLIX
"You definitely get to know [Blanc] a little bit better," Johnson told Netflix's TUDUM. "In the first one, because of the way it was structured, Marta, Ana de Armas' character, was very much the protagonist. In a big way, Blanc was the threat. He was almost the antagonist in terms of just the story structure, because you were worried, even as they got closer, that he was going to catch her and he was going to have to turn her over at the end. So Blanc was always outside of the sphere of our protagonist and was a little bit more of an enigma in the first movie. Whereas, in this one, Blanc gets an invitation to come to this murder mystery on this island. We're very much meeting these people and getting into this world through his eyes."

Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery will premiere on Netflix on Dec. 23. But first, it will make its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival in September.
 

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Daniel Craig peels back the layers of a mystery in first Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery teaser

"It's a rollercoaster, not a crossword puzzle," says director Rian Johnson.
By Maureen Lee LenkerUpdated September 08, 2022 at 09:05 AM EDT




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Ah, Greece, the sparkling ocean waters, the delectable cuisine... the murder?!
It's time for paradise to get a little less idyllic with Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery, the follow-up to 2019's smash-hit Knives Out from writer-director Rian Johnson.
On Thursday, ahead of the film's world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival this weekend, Netflix dropped the first teaser trailer for the highly anticipated whodunnit.

"The phrase I kept coming back to and talking about the first movie is, 'It's a roller coaster and not a crossword puzzle,'" writer-director-producer Rian Johnson told the Netflix site Tudum. "It's a common mistake in writing whodunits, thinking that you're making a crossword puzzle, and that the fun is that the audience is actually going to analyze all this and figure it out. I know when I'm reading or watching a whodunit, I always let go of the notion of figuring it out about a third of the way through it."

The cast of 'Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery'

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Glass Onion returns audiences to the world of detective Benoit Blanc (Daniel Craig) as he travels to Greece to unravel a mystery involving a new cast of colorful suspects. It combines the classic whodunnit style of Agatha Christie mysteries with the playful vibe of "tropical getaway murder mystery" films like 1982's Evil Under the Sun and 1973's The Last of Sheila. Johnson has previously cited the latter as a major influence, and the films even share an inciting incident: a group of friends is invited to a glamorous and exotic locale to play a murder mystery game.
Benoit Blanc must contend with a rogues' gallery of suspects, each with secrets of their own. In addition to Craig, Glass Onion stars Edward Norton, Janelle Monáe, Kathryn Hahn, Leslie Odom Jr., Jessica Henwick, Madelyn Cline, Kate Hudson, and Dave Bautista.

Unlike with the notoriously complex Thrombey-Drysdale family of the past, it's difficult to point fingers at a preliminary culprit among Johnson's latest crop of characters (at least from the trailer).

The lives of Hudson's dazzling character, Norton's cautious one, and the rest of the housemates are kept private. However, throughout the teaser clip the group seem be subtly separated into two categories: brains and brawn. Monae, Hahn, and Odom Jr.'s characters easily navigate a series of complex puzzles, while Hudson, Bautista, and Cline's characters showcase almost every weapon found in a game of Clue. While it's unclear which is the better trait to have in the end, one thing is for certain: Benoit Blanc's detective skills will definitely be put to the test once again.
"I'm always fishing for something fun that Blanc can grab onto as an overwrought metaphor that he can beat to death," Johnson previously told Tudum, explaining how he came up with the title. "This is all in plain sight from the very start. So, the idea of glass came to me, something that's clear. I'll be very honest: I literally got out my iPhone and searched my music library with the word glass. 'There's got to be some good glass songs.' I was like, 'Oh, is it a glass fortress? Is it a glass castle? Is it a glass man?' The first thing that came up, because I'm a huge Beatles fan, is 'Glass Onion.'"
Check out the teaser for Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery above and new images from it below.
Daniel Craig in 'Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery'

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Janelle Monáe in 'Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery'

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Kate Hudson and Jessica Henwick in 'Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery'

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Edward Norton in 'Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery'

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David Bautista and Madelyn Cline in 'Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery'

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Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery will premiere in select theaters on a to-be-announced date and will release globally on Netflix on Dec. 23.
 

blackbull1970

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Is Netflix planning on creating a franchise?

Or just make one movie and after it debuts let it sit out there in limbo forgotten?
 

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Is Netflix planning on creating a franchise?

Or just make one movie and after it debuts let it sit out there in limbo forgotten?

Maybe i misread, but Netflix purchased the movie rights to continue releasing movies based on the novel series(?)....

So far the order is only 2 more movies, but Netflix could re-up and try to make more.
 

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Knives Out ... of the closet: Rian Johnson confirms Daniel Craig's Benoit Blanc is 'obviously' queer

The Glass Onion director points to the detective's male lover and the "joy" he feels in Benoit being with him.
By Lester Fabian BrathwaiteUpdated October 16, 2022 at 06:06 PM EDT

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Much like the titular knives of the film franchise, Daniel Craig's Benoit Blanc is out.
At a press conference at the London Film Festival, Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery director Rian Johnson cleared up at least one conundrum: the sexuality of ascot-loving detective Benoit Blanc.

'Knives Out,' Blanc's out: 'Glass Onion' director Rian Johnson confirms Daniel Craig's Benoit Blanc is 'obviously' queer.

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Johnson was asked if a scene in which it appears Blanc has a male live-in lover means that his character is queer, Johnson replied, "Yes, he obviously is."

EW also confirmed the sexuality of detective Benoit Blanc directly through reps with Netflix and Johnson.
To queer-eyed viewers, this might not come as too much of a shock. In the first Knives Out, Blanc sounds like a mix between Truman Capote and Foghorn Leghorn — gay icons both — but that was pure subtext. Glass Onion, however, is making it pure text, baby.
Johnson, for one, is very happy for Benoit, and for himself, in the choice of actor who cameos as Blanc's lover. "There's nobody in the world I can imagine in bringing me more joy for Benoit Blanc to be with," Johnson said.
Craig himself added, "No spoilers [but] who wouldn't want to live with that person?"
The all-star cast of Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery includes Natasha Lyonne, Edward Norton, Janelle Monáe, Kathryn Hahn, Kate Hudson, Leslie Odom, Jr., and Dave Bautista as various characters, while Hugh Grant, Yo-Yo Ma, and the late Angela Lansbury and Stephen Sondheim are credited as playing themselves.

Meanwhile, Ethan Hawke is also listed among the cast in an uncredited part, but that could be neither here nor there. Or queer.
Audiences will find out for sure when Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery hits theaters Nov. 23 before dropping on Netflix Dec. 23.
 
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