TV Discussion: New series by Donald Glover - Atlanta UPDATE: FINAL 4th Season Sept 2022!

[playahaitian]

Mfkr didn't even know if that really was his nephew, yet he was still able to roam freely, get on stage and look through the phone with Socks

"He's only 19!" Mfkr said that like 10 times

"I'm 32!"..

"What?! You are?!, No you can't be!"

That age thing is a wicked flip of how white folks ALWAYS see young black boys as threats and adults and hold them responsible for EVERYTHING

but white kids?

Always kids

Even at 32

Innocent benefit of the doubt not responsible worthy of a second chance

Even when they cross state lines to start a fight and shoot innocent people

Or rape innocent children.

This season is focused as f*ck.

 

[playahaitian]

Like at all, her dad is German so......

Well damn.

You know something?

Now that the series is wrapping up,

She us the actor of the core 4 that could have been replaced

And I cannot believe I'm saying this cause I'm crazy for her...

But I could easily name quite a few black actresses that would have actually done the same if not better as Van.

 

[Tdot_firestarta]

lol this shits gonna be funny

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Yo with the BLM scam situation this episode is right on time..so realistic it pisses me off. And Paper snapping on Red Cross

 

[GuessWho21212]

I love the shots they take in this episode at all the fake BLM activism that devolved into a cash grab for intersectional alphabet gang folks. Did anyone notice the one guy with the red BLM life preserver on throughout the episode -- reminds you of a certain activist who famously wears a blue life preserver/puffy jacket.

 

[geechiedan]

That age thing is a wicked flip of how white folks ALWAYS see young black boys as threats and adults and hold them responsible for EVERYTHING

but white kids?

Always kids

Even at 32

Innocent benefit of the doubt not responsible worthy of a second chance

Even when they cross state lines to start a fight and shoot innocent people

Or rape innocent children.

This season is focused as f*ck.

yeah I read cac comment after cac comment that consistently referred to dylan roof (21) as a kid. Meanwhile Trayvon and Mike Brown (both 16) were rarely described as kids usually thugs and animals.

 

[geechiedan]

But overall I have to say that Atlanta is increasingly becoming a chore to watch...mainly becuz

 

[D24OHA]

I love the shots they take in this episode at all the fake BLM activism that devolved into a cash grab for intersectional alphabet gang folks. Did anyone notice the one guy with the red BLM life preserver on throughout the episode -- reminds you of a certain activist who famously wears a blue life preserver/puffy jacket.

And the pseudo black "brother" that got his hands in the pot as well.......

That shit with the Nigerian restaurant......while she was eating she was trying to whitewash the place.....

A place/ food she had no knowledge of moments before

 

[ViCiouS]

But I could easily name quite a few black actresses that would have actually done the same if not better as Van.

who are you thinking of?

 

[playahaitian]

who are you thinking of?

Don't get me in trouble this morning cuz

 

[playahaitian]

"Get this woman a cigarette can't you see she is freezing!"

 

[playahaitian]

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[playahaitian]

Looking like drop dead fred

 

[playahaitian]

Jollof rice

 

[playahaitian]

We all need to negotiate like Paper Boi

Over charge them for what they did to the cold crush.

 

[playahaitian]

Hmmmm

Once Paper Boi whipped them for all that free stuff and they git up to leave.

Paper never stood up but EARN did.

 

[playahaitian]

Darius>>>>>

 

[trstar]

And the pseudo black "brother" that got his hands in the pot as well.......

That shit with the Nigerian restaurant......while she was eating she was trying to whitewash the place.....

A place/ food she had no knowledge of moments before

That’s always the case. One CACs get turned on to something, the first instinct is to grab it, modify it, and monetize it for themselves.

a trait black folks need to start doing.

open a rib spot in a all white neighborhood.
a hip hop boutique in the Asian community
A grocery store in the Arab hood

 

[playahaitian]

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[playahaitian]

That’s always the case. One CACs get turned on to something, the first instinct is to grab it, modify it, and monetize it for themselves.

a trait black folks need to start doing.

open a rib spot in a all white neighborhood.
a hip hop boutique in the Asian community
A grocery store in the Arab hood

^^^^

Post of the morning

 

[benny_negro]

Why is Minnie Riperton's Les Fleur becoming a horror anthem?

I was thinking the whole episode - “is this a flex on Jordan Peele and US in particular?” So when Minnie chimed in…

that episode seems like a PSA to “good” white folks. That’s the intended audience.
If not for the possibly conscious knock on what JP did (and didn’t do) with US, the end credit song could have also just as easily been - “Three Little Birds (Every Little Thing’s Gonna Be Alright)” by Bob Marley
Because that def seemed to be the message.
Don’t fight the flow whites — #FuckYouPayMe #AndWeWereCoolAfterThat #RIP#CharlieMurphy#RickJames lol

 

[benny_negro]

Do NOT DISCOUNT the exchange with the Mexican bus boy.

That was deep as f*ck

That was an interesting epilogue

they set it up edit/visually as if main white dude - Marshall? I guess that makes sense lol Eminem - was the one bus riding with headphones and then reveal the brown dude is a new coworker. However the look exchanged with the white chick bus driver was notable even before he and Marshall had that exchange in Spanglish.

Good episode - gliding over everything just touching this touching that creating space

I’ll probably watch it again at some point

 

[benny_negro]

Just to be clear I'm not trashing the episode

But that whole sequence only lead to somehow sympathizing with the white man.

This loud black woman is harassing him embarrassing him

But the black men are focused as f*ck still going to work collecting checks telling the white man "how to deal with the black woman"

I would have loved the same actress flipping expectations...

Have her thanking the server at the door...

Have her asking if she could please come in...

What is the square footage? How is the traffic?

Her having a screen and power point presentation in her trunk with Bluetooth speakers and handouts outside his job.

Detailed specific logical

Keep the car chase

but let it be her family doing home inspection measuring the property taking pictures

even his neighbors welcoming her.

Like I said it's minor but in MY EYES it took away from the episode

Which overall was very well done

super valid. Stereotypical shit can cut close to home. But. Shit was mandatory in this case.
For story they were telling - had to incite the same “stereotypes gone wild” fears that Chappelle’s Show played out 20 years ago with his ADOS/reparations skit.

bit of an aside here —
the possibility that certain stereotypical behavior is LINKED TO the generational oppression (as opposed to it being 1) personality and/or 2) culture/cultural) - is something that I’ve been happy to hear more and more professionals claim as true as I learn about “trauma”. How trauma changes behavior as well as nervous system and biochemistry. Emotions. Capacity for accessing certain parts of the brain responsible for rational thought etc. Trauma triggers survival instincts and survival biochemistry etc.

My point is - the turn in the episode comes when Marshall watches the IG video chick posted with her kids riding bikes etc. Black Joy. When Marshall sees that - we infer that he chooses to accept it (reparations) is what it is and that chick AINT a monster - just somebody he needs to make right with. And that “Stereotypical” behavior he’s been conditioned to fear… is circumstantial. and he can (or is about to be legally obligated to) change the circumstances

Peep - the only interactions that he has or sees black people having with white folks are traumatic/based on race/legacy of slavery. From the opening scene with dude slighted by the barista seemingly because she was disgusted by his lack of code switching while in “her line” and on the phone. It’s a “micro” aggression but a trauma nonetheless. To the brother who comments on hotel lobby conversation white dude “E” bleeding out his blown out skull face down in the hotel pool etc. Then. Same shit as far as every direct interaction M. had on camera w/Shonequa. She’s inherently and understandably triggered interacting with THIS white dude Marshall in particular…

idk. It’s a simple story so it leaves pretty much any and everything on the table for bringing in to the discussion. End of the day. Yeah. I enjoyed it.

 

[playahaitian]

super valid. Stereotypical shit can cut close to home. But. Shit was mandatory in this case.
For story they were telling - had to incite the same “stereotypes gone wild” fears that Chappelle’s Show played out 20 years ago with his ADOS/reparations skit.

bit of an aside here —
the possibility that certain stereotypical behavior is LINKED TO the generational oppression (as opposed to it being 1) personality and/or 2) culture/cultural) - is something that I’ve been happy to hear more and more professionals claim as true as I learn about “trauma”. How trauma changes behavior as well as nervous system and biochemistry. Emotions. Capacity for accessing certain parts of the brain responsible for rational thought etc. Trauma triggers survival instincts and survival biochemistry etc.

My point is - the turn in the episode comes when Marshall watches the IG video chick posted with her kids riding bikes etc. Black Joy. When Marshall sees that - we infer that he chooses to accept it (reparations) is what it is and that chick AINT a monster - just somebody he needs to make right with. And that “Stereotypical” behavior he’s been conditioned to fear… is circumstantial. and he can (or is about to be legally obligated to) change the circumstances

Peep - the only interactions that he has or sees black people having with white folks are traumatic/based on race/legacy of slavery. From the opening scene with dude slighted by the barista seemingly because she was disgusted by his lack of code switching while in “her line” and on the phone. It’s a “micro” aggression but a trauma nonetheless. To the brother who comments on hotel lobby conversation white dude “E” bleeding out his blown out skull face down in the hotel pool etc. Then. Same shit as far as every direct interaction M. had on camera w/Shonequa. She’s inherently and understandably triggered interacting with THIS white dude Marshall in particular…

idk. It’s a simple story so it leaves pretty much any and everything on the table for bringing in to the discussion. End of the day. Yeah. I enjoyed it.

I respect your take.

 

[benny_negro]

What up Playa haha

I just happened to finish CANCER ATTACK 305 right now so I’m back in the thread lol. some interesting thoughts in here on that one too.

I’m catching up now and won’t finish WHITE FASHION until after 307 airs tonight. look forward to the talk on both

But. I will say - that first episode set a whole lot of shit up

basic right - “these white folks will KILL you…”

death of a thousand cuts is def an aspect of how this shit is playing out

low key wondering if someone in the squad actually won’t make it out of S3 alive?

ATL is always a joy ride man

 

[playahaitian]

What up Playa haha

I just happened to finish CANCER ATTACK 305 right now so I’m back in the thread lol. some interesting thoughts in here on that one too.

I’m catching up now and won’t finish WHITE FASHION until after 307 airs tonight. look forward to the talk on both

But. I will say - that first episode set a whole lot of shit up

basic right - “these white folks will KILL you…”

death of a thousand cuts is def an aspect of how this shit is playing out

low key wondering if someone in the squad actually won’t make it out of S3 alive?

ATL is always a joy ride man

^^^^

KABOOM

 

[playahaitian]

Ummm where Socks at?

 

[benny_negro]

Ummm where Socks at?

Haha

up to no good

 

[playahaitian]

Haha

up to no good

Interesting how he stole the phone set up

After already setting up Darius and ingratiating himself with the crew

We cannot ignore how he deliberately set them up to potentially physically assault an innocent white guy

And did some real colonizer bullsh*t

He threw put Paper Boi song

His art.

Much like how the Europeans are refusing to return stolen African art claiming that Africans are not CAPABLE of proper curating it.

That white man stole they art used it manipulated it and disposes of it.

(Which later happens with the Nigerian restaurant and earlier with the unwillingness to pay the debt of systemic racism)

Just saying.

 

[benny_negro]

Interesting how he stole the phone set up

After already setting up Darius and ingratiating himself with the crew

We cannot ignore how he deliberately set them up to potentially physically assault an innocent white guy

And did some real colonizer bullsh*t

He threw put Paper Boi song

His art.

Much like how the Europeans are refusing to return stolen African art claiming that Africans are not CAPABLE of proper curating it.

That white man stole they art used it manipulated it and disposes of it.

(Which later happens with the Nigerian restaurant and earlier with the unwillingness to pay the debt of systemic racism)

Just saying.

i’ll be getting back as I catch up haha

Looking back though - all I’m remembering socks wise is the socks vs sox, and the “you can’t pull off the bald head* white dude look”… “Moby is your best hope”… (Darius almost to himself) “I actually like moby”

*APPARENT THREAT/PERCEIVED AS THREATENING being the rationale for who can/can’t pull of a bald head look


Haha. Don’t know how many will get the reference (or how, it being 30 years later, anyone too young to be familiar with the late 80s/early90s rap era would enjoy the film - whcih I noticed is streaming on showtime right now btw) but - a bit of dialogue from the mockumentary movie FEAR OF A BLACK HAT:

“don’t shoot til you see the whites”
“— of their eyes?”
“Whose eyes?”
“Don’t shoot until you see the whites of their eyes.”
“Nah nah. Just “don’t shoot til you see the whites. Period. That’s it. End of story. But the record company they dogged us out. They wouldn’t let us put it on their.”

this FEAR exchange comes to mind as closing thought on how in ATLANTA they’re playing out the Socks/Moby - perceived/unperceived threat and of course - again ref. opener THREE SLAPS - “these white folks will KILL you… KILL YOU”

interesting 301 parallel that in 305 Van is mia - with E trying to get back to her or technically have her get back to him (Van being the show’s black mother / her “three slaps” counterpart being who her son is tryin to get back to and her also being the knowledge/truth/words of wisdom speaker TO her son in …Earn’s …dream? What WAS “Three Slaps” anyway? beyond a setup for the Season’s main action and in its title the double triple maybe quadruple plus entendre/play on words describing/meta-commenting on S3 lol)

I DO wish they - Glover bros & Co - had gotten that DEADPOOL series poppin. But. I’m glad they just decided to make sure ATLANTA gives RICK & MORTY a live action run for its money.
Idk if those 6ix9ine references would have hit the same coming from the merc’s mouth lol

 

[benny_negro]

Bro. The on TVs cartoons kids watching this season gonna be studied and written about lmao

 

[chitownsfinest]

I got nuthin on that last episode...

 

[D24OHA]

I got nuthin on that last episode...

Not spectacular but interesting.....

That kid was so intertwined with Sylvia and learned sooo much from her....."Sweet, sweet T and T"....her mannerisms and responses in church....how he spoke to her daughter while the parents could barely understand her.....etc

Chet Hanks showed the result of longterm exposure.

The fact that they were "absent" for family pucture day......but someone was there and they had the same look on their faces.....damn near looked like family.

I appreciate these little one off episodes.....I really wish D Glover would just do a separate anthology series. Though this may be setting that up.

 

[Uncle John]

Knocked it out the park again displaying the lib white obliviousness.

 

[chitownsfinest]

Not spectacular but interesting.....

That kid was so intertwined with Sylvia and learned sooo much from her....."Sweet, sweet T and T"....her mannerisms and responses in church....how he spoke to her daughter while the parents could barely understand her.....etc

Chet Hanks showed the result of longterm exposure.

The fact that they were "absent" for family pucture day......but someone was there and they had the same look on their faces.....damn near looked like family.

I appreciate these little one off episodes.....I really wish D Glover would just do a separate anthology series. Though this may be setting that up.

Looking at it again now. White kid didn't like the bread at breakfast cause it was bland. Put some spicy curry mango on it .

Yea...he was channeling Sylvia.