valid points. but i look at soldier boy maeve and kimko as well as ryan and homelander being extremely more durable than the other supes. also homdelander was shielding ryan so that should of been enough to deflect the most direct blast from soldier boy. i would of took the risk because now they have an unhinged homelander on their backs with a now vp candidate connect.and ryan soaking it up.
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oh and they have a furious soldier boy who could possibly be free at at anytime.
i feel like black noir is not dead. after that damage he took from soldier boy in panama, i think he might still be alive.Wow.
Talk about a series being, "off script".
The Boys is certainly NOT following the comic.
And Is no one here gonna show any love for this guy in the season 3 finale???
(Even though he IS a weird and bizarre piece of shit...)
Ryan isn't on the same level as Meave Soldier Boy or Homelander yet. Outside of him not being able to take a hit from Soldier Boy, bleeding and being knocked unconscious in the process, he also passed out from a 20 foot fall/push of roof from Homelander. He could have passed out from the fear of the fall but im going with the wind being knocked out of him. Even with that, the blast was shown to remove powers immediately or within seconds. The Shockwave/impact still kills Ryan or severely hurts him even with Homelander shielding him and that assuming somehow both aren't burned from the blast. We didn't see Soldier Boy consciously or not under stress use a big blast, but when it happens it engulfed the area.
I haven’t read the comics since the Wildstorm
Drop outside of casual glances over the years. But I always assumed Noir was like DEADPOOL or WOLVERINE so whether that’s explicit or not in the comics - it’s def a real likelihood he will be “resurrected” SOMEHOW in later seasons
don’t nec take the “in the loving embrace of Christ” line his imaginary Chuck E. Cheese animated homies sent him off with as just a silly throwaway line…
Drop outside of casual glances over the years. But I always assumed Noir was like DEADPOOL or WOLVERINE so whether that’s explicit or not in the comics - it’s def a real likelihood he will be “resurrected” SOMEHOW in later seasons
don’t nec take the “in the loving embrace of Christ” line his imaginary Chuck E. Cheese animated homies sent him off with as just a silly throwaway line…
The Boys season finale another great unpredictable season. I know some people hate that politics seeps it's way into the show but I think its great that they reflect the climate of the world today when it comes to politics and social justice. The decline of society and what's right and wrong and people accepting the terrible things people do because they are celebrities or politicians.
Just when you think you've seen every way someone could die in a movie/TV show
Wow. That was new
That's good Payback right there. Loved it
Wow.
Talk about a series being, "off script".
The Boys is certainly NOT following the comic.
And Is no one here gonna show any love for this guy in the season 3 finale???
(Even though he IS a weird and bizarre piece of shit...)
The series prides itself in being different from the comics. Rumor has it that he'll be back for season 4.
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Yeah, I imagine somehow they will...
just binged the last season.
anyone see that obvious trump reference that he could kill someone publicly and STILL get support.. when HL blasted that dude at the rally.
MM, frenchie and Huey (before the V) are just liabilities in the field. And why does he keep pulling guns on mofos he KNOWS are impervious to weapons??
Homelander is not a villain...at least not a true villain. The biggest actual VILLIANS in the story are the humans who created all these fucked up people.
MM, frenchie and Huey (before the V) are just liabilities in the field. And why does he keep pulling guns on mofos he KNOWS are impervious to weapons??
Homelander is not a villain...at least not a true villain. The biggest actual VILLIANS in the story are the humans who created all these fucked up people.
I dunno if I'd go that far BUT marvel IS formulaic AF.. but in their defense theyre not trying to deconstruct the hero mythos either.
Mannnnn that shit had me rolling! Told him you’re such a fucking pussy! Lol Bruh! That’s my dude! They couldn’t kill that mf they have to bring him back! He was right too like that’s your wife’s son? So, let’s kill both of these Mfs and be done with it!
I got to see that again, my man ain’t no joke! Ohhhhhh, that other scene when he had those house keepers naked like gimme that lube lol Gawwwd damnnn!!!
they keep tryingto tell adult stories but for little kids
when marvel first started their movies could be for adults - but since they got in with disney shit has to be PG 13
theres no way you can tell a lot of the stories of a government assassin given to homicidal rages with a healing factor or a being that has an endless depth of hated for gods so much that he tortured a God of Torture and made him beg for death....and have those stories be cribbed for 10 year olds...
it just doesnt work.
the Gods are suppsed to be great and powerful beings who commmit and ignore terrible awful acts...the stories of the greeks or the norse or the egyptians gods were pretty savage because the world then was savage... the stakes often were dire and thre wasnt a lot of happiness in the end.
the boys are successful because in the end the choices of their characters are the choices that are grounded in real human motivations emotions passions and failings....there is SOME idealism but as we all know....idealism takes a back seat once real the real world politic psychology and practicality are in play
I get everything your saying but thats just one way to portray powerful beings. Another is that heroes are supposed to reflect the best in all of us and inspire what humanity can be. Ever notice you never see the heroes in The Boys ever doing anything heroic at all? The one time we could have seen homelander do something incredibly heroic (save the plane) he fucked it up badly.
The point of the Boys is to show the opposite of what you defined. It's more about power corrupting people and the supposed heroes not being heroes at all. I'd like to believe you'd have people use their power for good in tge real world, but I really don't see that happening unless the majority had some form of ability. If power were limited like in the Boys world, even the best intended person would use their powers for personal gain or to create their ideal moral world. To me they've fucked up Homelander a bit as far as the image of his power level but the idea is who can stop a dark Superman if he decides to rule the world.
Homelander didn't fuck up saving the plane. They explained that it wasn't possible to do what has been shown in other shows/comics. Now if you meant killing the pilot and damaging the controls I agree. Even with that, technically they've shown heroic acts in the show. It's just not the focus of the show so it doesn't get displayed often. For example Starlight saving the woman from being raped. Meaves actions were heroic in the last episode.
I love this show
But every season can't be how are we going to bring down homelander.
They had a perfect opportunity to make him powerless and balked.
But every season can't be how are we going to bring down homelander.
They had a perfect opportunity to make him powerless and balked.
Yea that was some bullsheiit on Soldier Boys wind up! Other dude is right too on Maeve. No way she shoulda made it so the deviation from the comic is extreme. Homelander Ol bitch ass is scared shitless of Butcher and Soldier Boy. A Train got a pass too so who knows how they’re going to stretch this out and with what characters. Hell bring back Giancarlo E too. Got to say he rocks as a villain so far in the stuff he’s been in. Can’t lie. This series is wild as fuck and very much one of the best out. Too many frootloop moments but it’s still good.
I think I get what you are saying but I somewhat disagree. If Homealnder is defeated in three seasons, was he really as big a threat as the show is saying? It's bad enough all of a sudden Supe Hughie is strong enough to at least help in a fight with Homealnder. Meave who was clearly fearful of Homealnder all of sudden can go toe to toe with him. Keep in mind Hughie, Butcher and Soldier Boy allowed Homealnder to escape.even if Homealnder was taking it easy on Maeve because he wanted her eggs, Meave should have been easily knocked unconscious by Homealnder. On the opposite end, Black Noir was killed easily and he was supposed to be the one to take care of Homealnder if he went rogue.
Or are you just saying he shouldn't be the primary focus of every season? I can't remember if Homealnder raped Bacca or if she willingly had sex with him, but either way as long as Homelander is alive Butcher will focus on killing him more than any supe.
Personally I felt like Stormfront was the main villian/threat of season 2.
I been covered this throughout the season in this specific thread so I ain't gonna retype all that but I'm saying as masterful as the homelander performance is...
And it is.
It can't be 6 episodes of build up to beat him and then nothing
Every season.
So he is unbeatable? We get it we know what he represents etc
All the main heroes live despite all that.
They had a chance to give Maeve a true heroes death that would have driven the next season. They did not. Cool. Cause i realize this show is wall to wall assholes
Besides Hugh and starlight there is so much darkness
Honestly maybe too much.
So I like Maeve being happy potential return (but not really because we know homelander could find her)
I'm a kripke stan so I know his writing and he was able to do this for 2 decades on supernatural so I ain't complaining.
But the let's kill homelander for 6 hours and fail is gonna get stale eventually.
Let's go deeper. No pun intended
Just in case yall forgot?
Dean been had the rhythm
Dean been had the rhythm
Everything we know so far about 'The Boys' season 4
Here's everything we know (so far) about 'The Boys' season 4.
Everything we know so far about The Boys season 4
The Boys now have to worry about the boy.
By Nick RomanoUpdated August 05, 2022 at 04:57 PM EDT
The Boys showrunner Eric Kripke put it in his Twitter bio for all to see: "Look, we're writing Season 4 as fast as we can, lay off, jeez." So instead, bother us! We'll be hoarding as much information on the next phase of the R-rated superhero satire as more developments come about.
The series — set in a world where superheroes are real and are actually huge a--holes — comes from humble beginnings: supe sex parties and rectal pipe bombs. But it's since grown to be one of Amazon's biggest shows, complete with a few Emmy nominations. And each season, with a constant finger on the cultural and political pulse of the real world, only seems to be getting more provocative and poignant.
Here's what we can expect from The Boys season 4… so far.
When does The Boys season 4 start filming?
Kripke told EW in July that production on The Boys will return to Toronto in August. Star Karl Urban separately mentioned Aug. 22 in an interview with Collider.
When will The Boys season 4 premiere?
A premiere date hasn't yet been set for season 4, but let's look at the typical cycle of the show.
Season 1 shot May-October 2018, and the show made its debut on Amazon Prime Video in July the following year. Season 2 began filming in July 2019 and wrapped in November. The show returned to the streaming platform September 2020.
In pandemic times, that time frame became longer. Season 3 started filming in February 2021, and because COVID-19 forced the crew to add a ton of safety protocols, production remained active through September. The season then premiered June 3, 2022. If season 4 follows a similar course, then we can expect filming to wrap by March 2023, give or take a few weeks. We'd guess late, late 2023 for a season 4 premiere, assuming everything goes as planned.
Who's in the cast?
Susan Heyward (L) and Valorie Curry join 'The Boys' season 4 as supes Sister Sage and Firecracker
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Expect the mainstay stars to all make returns. That goes for Urban, Jack Quaid, Erin Moriarty, Karen Fukuhara, Laz Alonso, Tomer Capone, Antony Starr, Dominique McElligott, Jessie T. Usher, Chace Crawford, and Nathan Mitchell. That also presumably goes for Colby Minifie, Laila Robins, Giancarlo Esposito, and Claudia Doumit.
Yes, Mitchell's Black Noir was killed in the season 3 finale, but Kripke told EW that the plan is for the actor to return as a new variation of Noir. The showrunner explained: "It's definitely not the last we've seen of Black Noir as a hero. It's just that the guy who was inside [the Noir suit] in season 3, he's gone. But we have Nathan playing a really interesting and hilarious character who wears the suit next season."
The first season 4 casting announcement from Amazon confirmed that Cameron Crovetti, who plays Ryan Butcher, will be taking a more active role on The Boys as a series regular.
The newcomers so far include Valorie Curry and Susan Heyward, both playing supes. Curry will appear as Firecracker, while Heyward will appear as Sister Sage. "These new Supes are some of the best & craziest ever written for #TheBoys," Kripke teased on Twitter. "You are going to love them. And by love, I mean be absolutely horrified & a tiny bit nauseous."
Will Jensen Ackles' Soldier Boy return for The Boys season 4? It's hard to say. The character was placed back into cryogenic slumber under the watchful eye of Grace Mallory (Robins). Kripke confirmed that he's "100 percent" leaving the door open for more Soldier Boy. It just might not be as soon as season 4.
"The old TV adage is like, never kill anyone unless you really, really have to. Never close a door, open a window," Kripke told EW. "We'll all have to wait and see, but I can't imagine the series ending without Soldier Boy making another appearance."
What's season 4 about?
'The Boys' season 3 finale sets up what showrunner Eric Kripke calls a 'battle for Ryan's soul' in season 4
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Kripke thinks of his season finales as pilots for the following seasons. So we already know quite a bit about what to expect.
We can't imagine there'd be as much of a time jump as we saw between seasons 2 and 3, mainly because of what we know about Billy Butcher (Urban). The season 3 finale revealed that all his messing around with Temp V has screwed him royally and he now has mere months left to live. Then there's the Ryan of it all.
After the battle against Soldier Boy, Ryan decided to leave with his father, Homelander (Starr). The leader of the Seven then introduced his son to a crowd of his alt-right followers, who applauded Homelander as he executed a protestor in public. Ryan saw the reaction his father received and gave a foreboding smirk.
"We really wanted to set up this battle for Ryan's soul," Kripke said. "I don't think the game's over yet. I think [Ryan] saw this one thing and I think we should all be afraid because if he becomes another Homelander, that's obviously really bad for the planet. But he's still Becca's kid and there's still a shot that Butcher can pull him into the light."
The good news is that Starlight (Moriarty) has a new power (she can fly when she's supercharged) and has officially joined the Boys, who are operating out of their Flatiron headquarters in New York City. They may be more preoccupied with stopping U.S. Rep. Victoria Neuman (Doumit), who is looking like she'll become vice president of the United States. If that were to happen, we should just call her POTUS because you know she would be assassinating her running mate.
On a smaller note — literally — Kripke is obsessed with the idea of bringing the supe hamster Jamie back into the fold after the creature busted out of its Russian cell.
"I have no idea how to get him back into the story, but I do not want this to be the last of Jamie," he said. "Like, there's this superpowered, bloodthirsty hamster loose somewhere in Russia! I'm dying to figure out how to get him back in this story. Gotta do it."
What the cast has said
Jack Quaid's Hughie goes to work for the Federal Bureau of Supe Affairs in 'The Boys' season 3.
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Quaid thinks season 4 will be the best season of The Boys yet. Then again, he says that about every season.
Before shipping out to the Toronto set in August, Quaid told EW that he's "been loving" the scripts. "The general framework of this season has been told to me, and it's shaping up to be very cool, very timely," he added. "I can't wait to see exactly how it plays out because I don't have every script yet, but this is that special time where I get to just be a fan and see every script as it comes in and have my own reaction to the insane things that we do."
Quaid previously worked with Heyward, who's playing new supe Sister Sage, on the HBO drama Vinyl. He expressed his excitement to be reuniting with her.
"There's so little that I can say publicly about this right now, but just I don't think we're skipping a beat," he said. "I think this could be one of our best seasons yet. I don't know. We're going to have to wait and see, but I'm very, very, very excited for the story."
They basically making fun of HBO Max Discovery new price..
