U.S. Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe vs. Wade

LordSinister

One Punch Mayne
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Clearly you didn't read it. She's saying what voting has lead to in a democratic city. Which happens to be something that occurs often in democratic led cities
I understand. It also happens in Republiclan lead cities.

This is the point, there are 3 choices right now with our democracy

Stagnation/staus quo. Things stay the same
Progress. Things change and evolve
Regression. Things devolve to an earlier state.

So many people get angry about stagnation and don't engage which allows things to regress.

The "tangibles" crowd has legitimate gripes about stagnation, as do I. I however can see the larger picture. Our basic human rights are at risk now, so fuck a check! This decision means that they have no compunction about reversing more of them.

By not voting in 2016 we ended up here.
 

notreally

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The point is that the religious reasons given to end abortion are not supported by scripture. Which tells me you did not read past the first sentence.

Actually, I did read it.

And I stand by my previous statement.

Scripture has been revised, altered, added to and detracted from over the centuries.

This is why there is a King James version of the bible. James took out what he didn't like.

One thing the church began to hate is the fact that MARY was indeed the object of worship for
many, many years. Men in the church retroactively decided that Jesus was actually the son of God,
AND the incarnation of God, and therefore the proper subject of worship. So nuns? Fuck nuns. After all,
they are only women, so sayeth the Church...

This behavior is a hallmark of patriarchy.

My point is this:

ANY philosophy that requires its adherents to abandon reason is ripe for perversion, and has dubious merits, moral or otherwise,at best.

Religion, by its very nature, requires one to abandon reason, even when this "absolute truth" is dramatically revised (remember black skin being the curse of Ham, at one point?). I believe the term commonly used is "faith".

How else would you explain the millions upon millions of Indigenous Peoples and Pan Africans who choose to practice the religion of those who committed genocide against them and enslaved them, respectively?

The very malleable nature of the "truth", as defined and redefined by the church, lends itself to the adoption and propagation of the belief that life begins at conception, as well as all the ludicrous stuff that said belief entails.

This is why the religious right was incorporated into the republican party. It is a useful tool to inspire, and DIRECT, zealotry
for one's own particular purpose. Their collective purpose? To put 6 religious nut jobs on the SCOTUS, which they have DONE.

You have lost your right to control your reproduction because of the influence of the Bible, one of the greatest tools of mind control ever devised. But that is only part of the larger plan.

The ultimate plan is control. And their plan is, unfortunately, progressing at an alarming pace.

How else would you explain the millions upon millions of Indigenous Peoples and Pan Africans who choose to practice the religion of those who committed genocide against them and enslaved them, respectively?

Just askin'.
 
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ballscout1

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BGOL Investor
I find it funny some of you calling people coons for not wanting abortions but people that are actually blacker than you, you know, real Africans, the land where you came from, don't believe in abortions. Has nothing to do with Christianity so there goes that argument. I bet you don't even realize the reason you are arguing against it. You have been conditioned to fight for it under a big umbrella of things that have nothing to do with you.


Are you a woman ? Then you wouldn't be getting an abortion.

I don't think as a man it is my place to dictate a woman's health-related issues.

Fukkn people crying because wearing a mask is a choice and they are offended that a mandate takes that choice

But have no issue making mandates to take away a woman's choice.
 

Supersav

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I understand. It also happens in Republiclan lead cities.

This is the point, there are 3 choices right now with our democracy

Stagnation/staus quo. Things stay the same
Progress. Things change and evolve
Regression. Things devolve to an earlier state.

So many people get angry about stagnation and don't engage which allows things to regress.

The "tangibles" crowd has legitimate gripes about stagnation, as do I. I however can see the larger picture. Our basic human rights are at risk now, so fuck a check! This decision means that they have no compunction about reversing more of them.

By not voting in 2016 we ended up here.
And by voting is how we ended up here because our elected officials had multiple chances to codify roe vs Wade and instead used it as a carrot
 

Tito_Jackson

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Are sperm that didn't make it to the egg deserving of life? Where does it end?
Again, arguments like this are rooted in a lack of a basic understanding of biology.
You decide to accept a religious belief that has not updated to modern times and you fail to wait until marriage, you need to deal with the consequences. Maybe some religious practice changes might be promoted.
But, you are mistakenly making the assumption that everyone's opinion is determined by religion. It is not. Some people just believe that killing babies is wrong. Nothing religious about that.
Is there a poll of how many black people want to take the choice away from individual women though?
The irony is there are many other "choices" women can make. Again, this is a false narrative regarding this argument. Abortion is never the only choice. But, pro-abortion folk do not want to acknowledge that. To them, it is abortion or nothing. This is a perfect example of a false dichotomy argument fallacy.
I'm not in love with abortions, but I don't believe that I should be able to tell some woman what she can't do to her body.
Again, this is a false argument. Noone is telling women what to do with their bodies. They chose to engage in sex that they knew could result in a pregnancy. Getting an abortion has much more to do with the child than it does the mother. The arguement you are really making is,

"I don't believe that I should be able to tell some woman what she can't do to the baby created by her and the father of the child."
So thinking it's morally wrong doesn't necessarily mean that you want to make that choice for someone else.
But this is in fact what is happening.

The woman is making a choice for the child inside her as well as the father of the child. And only the woman is being considered in this scenario.
We getting it from demobots and Karen's huh


Stay strong brahs

Yet, we are suppossed to get out in the street and march alongside these devils?

How can any black man truly believe these devils have black people's best interest at heart when there are multiple examples of this??

Margaret Sanger, the sole person credited for pushing abortion into the mainstream openly stated that abortion is a means to control the black population. She actually spoke at a Klan rally.

And yall suckers gonna follow the ideals of this devil?? Tricknology at its finest.
 

Tito_Jackson

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Are you a woman ? Then you wouldn't be getting an abortion.

I don't think as a man it is my place to dictate a woman's health-related issues.

Fukkn people crying because wearing a mask is a choice and they are offended that a mandate takes that choice

But have no issue making mandates to take away a woman's choice.
Women have many choices and options other than abortion.

This is a false argument created to support a weak position.

The woman can do whatever she wants to her body. But she should not be allowed to do whatever she wants to do to the baby.
 

Camille

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Her VP pick doesn't matter huh lmao..ok so now tell me why the Dems haven't codifyed roe vs Wade when they had decades to do it?

Same reason nothing else gets done, the votes arent there and yall steady telling people not to vote so the votes will never be there. The bill to do this has already passed the house, it will never pass the senate without 60 votes.
 

Non-StopJFK2TAB

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Are you a woman ? Then you wouldn't be getting an abortion.

I don't think as a man it is my place to dictate a woman's health-related issues.

Fukkn people crying because wearing a mask is a choice and they are offended that a mandate takes that choice

But have no issue making mandates to take away a woman's choice.
How do you even pretend to take those people seriously? That’s inconsistent. You don’t believe in the virus, you think the vaccine contains nanobots, but you’re heavily invested in the pregnancy of random women?
 

Non-StopJFK2TAB

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Same reason nothing else gets done, the votes arent there and yall steady telling people not to vote so the votes will never be there. The bill to do this has already passed the house, it will never pass the senate without 60 votes.
The inaction/gridlock is part of the design. The Supreme Court says fix it knowing Congress can’t fix it. Then the republicans go out on tour saying the reason for the inaction is because they’re right.
 

Tito_Jackson

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Same reason nothing else gets done, the votes arent there and yall steady telling people not to vote so the votes will never be there. The bill to do this has already passed the house, it will never pass the senate without 60 votes.
They keep moving the goal posts. First, its we need the presidency. Then it's we need the house. Then its, we need the senate. Now its, we need more seats in the senate. When will it ever stop??

Are black folk really expected to give the dems full control over everything before we are to expect policies specific to our plight?
 

ballscout1

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BGOL Investor
Women have many choices and options other than abortion.

This is a false argument created to support a weak position.

The woman can do whatever she wants to her body. But she should not be allowed to do whatever she wants to do to the baby.


It isn't a baby

a baby can live outside of the womb.

that is the reason that abortions are only allowed to a certain point of gestation.

so you using the erm baby is a false argument created to support a weak position.....simply because conception can't be defined any closer to an educated guess

let's see how you feel when they legislate your jacking off and killing all those potential babies.

keep it going, if a woman allows you to knut in her mouth and she swallows she should be charged with canibalism.
 

christop

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Women have many choices and options other than abortion.

This is a false argument created to support a weak position.

The woman can do whatever she wants to her body. But she should not be allowed to do whatever she wants to do to the baby.
When does it become a baby?
 

Soul On Ice

Black 1st
Certified Pussy Poster
Again, arguments like this are rooted in a lack of a basic understanding of biology.

But, you are mistakenly making the assumption that everyone's opinion is determined by religion. It is not. Some people just believe that killing babies is wrong. Nothing religious about that.

The irony is there are many other "choices" women can make. Again, this is a false narrative regarding this argument. Abortion is never the only choice. But, pro-abortion folk do not want to acknowledge that. To them, it is abortion or nothing. This is a perfect example of a false dichotomy argument fallacy.

Again, this is a false argument. Noone is telling women what to do with their bodies. They chose to engage in sex that they knew could result in a pregnancy. Getting an abortion has much more to do with the child than it does the mother. The arguement you are really making is,

"I don't believe that I should be able to tell some woman what she can't do to the baby created by her and the father of the child."

But this is in fact what is happening.

The woman is making a choice for the child inside her as well as the father of the child. And only the woman is being considered in this scenario.

Yet, we are suppossed to get out in the street and march alongside these devils?

How can any black man truly believe these devils have black people's best interest at heart when there are multiple examples of this??

Margaret Sanger, the sole person credited for pushing abortion into the mainstream openly stated that abortion is a means to control the black population. She actually spoke at a Klan rally.

And yall suckers gonna follow the ideals of this devil?? Tricknology at its finest.
Sanger gets a pass here because Hillary,whom BGOL loves, once said she was her hero.
 

Tito_Jackson

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Registered
It isn't a baby

a baby can live outside of the womb.

that is the reason that abortions are only allowed to a certain point of gestation.

so you using the erm baby is a false argument created to support a weak position.....simply because conception can't be defined any closer to an educated guess

let's see how you feel when they legislate your jacking off and killing all those potential babies.

keep it going, if a woman allows you to knut in her mouth and she swallows she should be charged with canibalism.
Again, you are allowing your emotions to cloud your logic. First, sperm and developing babies are not the same.

Second, ther are 7 states with no "viability" limits. Meaning if a woman chose to, she could have an abortion one day before her delivery date?

Source:

However, let's make it more real for you. Here is an actual baby born at 23 weeks. According to you and other pro-abortionists. This is not a baby.
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But, you are fully ok killing this baby. OK Cool. Just be honest about it.
 

LordSinister

One Punch Mayne
Super Moderator
Same reason nothing else gets done, the votes arent there and yall steady telling people not to vote so the votes will never be there. The bill to do this has already passed the house, it will never pass the senate without 60 votes.
I don't understand how they can't grasp this fact or are they being obtuse specifically to push an agenda?
 

LordSinister

One Punch Mayne
Super Moderator
They keep moving the goal posts. First, its we need the presidency. Then it's we need the house. Then its, we need the senate. Now its, we need more seats in the senate. When will it ever stop??

Are black folk really expected to give the dems full control over everything before we are to expect policies specific to our plight?
No and Yes

You give the Dems the super majority and then ask the question.

A good basketball reference would be CP3 in the playoff refed by Scott Foster. He's lost 11 straight playoff games with him on the court. Right now Mitch and the GOP are Scott Foster to the Dems.

Remove the obstruction and then judge them. If they fail, everyone will say fuck them, including me.
 

LordSinister

One Punch Mayne
Super Moderator
Again, you are allowing your emotions to cloud your logic. First, sperm and developing babies are not the same.

Second, ther are 7 states with no "viability" limits. Meaning if a woman chose to, she could have an abortion one day before her delivery date?

Source:

However, let's make it more real for you. Here is an actual baby born at 23 weeks. According to you and other pro-abortionists. This is not a baby.
image.jpg


But, you are fully ok killing this baby. OK Cool. Just be honest about it.
Fuck that white baby, he's either going to grow up to be on Meth, join the proud boys, or become a policeman.

Here's something for you to ponder

Are you going to care for this baby that will never contribute to society? Are you willing to force women to bring children that are deformed, drug dependant, mentally retarded or genetically fucked to term? Are you willing to foot the bill for all of these unwanted children? Are you ready to support under age rape victims and their bastards and the fucking rapist in jail? Not me homie, like Robin Harris said "Gotta go, gotta go!"
 
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Non-StopJFK2TAB

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Platinum Member
I don't understand how they can't grasp this fact or are they being obtuse specifically to push an agenda?
Passing a bill in the house isn’t that momentous. The republicans tried to repeal Obamacare about 90 times. The corny stunts the democrats are doing right now serves no purpose. The democrats refuse to discard the filibuster and they’re pretending the parliamentarian is a real obstacle.
 

Akata King

D3port Th3m @ll!!
BGOL Investor
Her VP pick doesn't matter huh lmao..ok so now tell me why the Dems haven't codifyed roe vs Wade when they had decades to do it?

Dems will never enshrine Roe v. Wade because it’s their most effective voting cudgel. If reproductive rights aren’t in danger, Dems can’t weaponize them against Republicans. They lose arguably their most significant tool to threaten people into voting for them if we don’t fear losing reproductive rights.

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Piff Henderson

Stage Manager of Stage Managers
BGOL Investor
cant have pro choice

and forced vaccinations..

should fight more for freedom

across the board

you give up one freedom

to this criminally defunct govt

they coming for

all
Does that mean we should expect the convoy CACs to protest this decision like they did the vaccine mandates? I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.
 

Akata King

D3port Th3m @ll!!
BGOL Investor
cant have pro choice

and forced vaccinations..

should fight more for freedom

across the board

you give up one freedom

to this criminally defunct govt

they coming for

all

If you’re pro-choice on abortion but pro-vaccine mandate, you’re a hypocrite. And a bootlicker , because cops are required to enforce mandates. Gotta love anti-science, state-surveillance & caste-system supporting “leftists.”
 

ZuluSam

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Platinum Member
The woman can do whatever she wants to her body. But she should not be allowed to do whatever she wants to do to the baby.
When does it become a baby?

That is the question isn't it? Is it a human being at the moment of conception? @Tito_Jackson, do you believe there is a line before which it is not a baby and after which it is? If so, where is that line?
 

Piff Henderson

Stage Manager of Stage Managers
BGOL Investor
Also, if you are equating sperm to a fertilized egg, then you need to go sit in the back and rethink life because your understanding of basic biology is lacking.
No, they're not the same but neither of those things are "babies." A fertilized egg, like sperm, can be frozen indefinitely. There was a woman that was implanted with a zygote that was nearly as old as she.

Think about that. Her own newborn daughter was conceived around the same time she was.
 

blaze

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Her VP pick doesn't matter huh lmao..ok so now tell me why the Dems haven't codifyed roe vs Wade when they had decades to do it?

Stop with the VP shit! The Democrats DO NOT HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE SENATE. Manchen and Sinema have seen to that so get outta here with that talk. For real, just be real with your shit and stop using them tired ass fox news talking points.
 
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