U.S. Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe vs. Wade
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Right wing talking point.
The modern GOP would never fight so hard to HELP black people.
Finances and health are two large factors in women getting abortions. Those are also two areas where black folks get the short end of the stick.
Let's unpack your thoughts.
So, by this logic, when science and technology has achieved the ability to perfect cryogenic preservation, then you will concede that Embryos are a stage of human development, but a human nonetheless.
Furthermore, throughout human development, at different stages the has tge ability to do things it couldn't do in another stage. As an infant, you couldn't eat solid food. Does that mean you were not human?
A zygote, is a stage in human development such as being an infant, toddler, adolescent, ect. What makes it a human is the undeniable fact that the human has unique DNA that has stored ALL other traits and characteristics until death. Just because it's at an early stage of development does negate this fact.
My stance has zero to do with religion.
Pro-abortion propaganda has done a great job of convincing some people that the live of an unborn unwanted child is insignificant and worthless.
One day in the future we will look back and cringe at how ignorant human being were regarding our understanding of human development and genetics.
This really makes no sense. But, let's work within your parameters.
So, by this logic, when science and technology has achieved the ability to perfect cryogenic preservation, then you will concede that Embryos are a stage of human development, but a human nonetheless.
Furthermore, throughout human development, at different stages the has tge ability to do things it couldn't do in another stage. As an infant, you couldn't eat solid food. Does that mean you were not human?
No, you wrong. Science will not say that human sperm or oocytes/ eggs are human. They are gamete that combine to create a human. Lastly no scientist would ever say a cancer cell is human. It's a cancer cell.
This question has been answered several times.
A zygote, is a stage in human development such as being an infant, toddler, adolescent, ect. What makes it a human is the undeniable fact that the human has unique DNA that has stored ALL other traits and characteristics until death. Just because it's at an early stage of development does negate this fact.
I disagree. Your stance is rooted strictly in opinion and false information. My views are roots in fact amd science.
My stance has zero to do with religion.
Pro-abortion propaganda has done a great job of convincing some people that the live of an unborn unwanted child is insignificant and worthless.
One day in the future we will look back and cringe at how ignorant human being were regarding our understanding of human development and genetics.
That's not a right wing talking point brother. Those are undisputed facts. Just because you may have heard from a CAC say it first on some racist news channel doesn't make the facts less valid.
Please free your mind. Those were potential black doctors, scientists, artists, the next leader of black people.
F the GOP. However, our best interest can sometimes be aligned with our enemy.
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President Joe Biden said on Thursday that he would support making an exception to the filibuster — the 60-vote threshold in the Senate needed to pass most legislation — in order to codify abortion rights and the right to privacy through legislation passed by Congress.
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Those are called assumptions. There's no way you can know science will ever achieve the ability to cryogenically preserve people. We're nowhere close to it.
Furthermore, it's not about the zygote being "human," it's about it being a person or not.
You can't eat solid food as an infant because your digestive system isn't completely formed. Specifically, your stomach doesn't produce enough gastric fluid.
What this has to do with what is essentially a clump of cells being able to be frozen indefinitely compared to an actual child, who is a person, not being able to is beyond me.
You both misunderstood my point and don't know what you're talking about. Eggs, sperm, and cancer cells, among other tissues, can be identified as "human," that is belonging to a human.
This is analogous to a zygote since you cannot identify the species of the zygote just by looking at it through a microscope. You would need to analyze the zygote's DNA
The personhood question? No it hasn't. Certainly not by you on this board.
If you're not going to read what you're responding to then why bother responding at all?
The question was about personhood not about if a zygote is "human." You haven't even begun to answer the personhood question yet at all.
You claim your views are based on "fact amd [sic] science" but you haven't cited a single, reputable source. Not one science journal, for instance, was cited by you.
It might as well be TBH.
The irony that you're on another board saying a man doesn't have the responsibility for making sure kids who live with his child and are his child's siblings are fed. No disrespect but I don't trust your opinion on human worth.
Yeah, that's called natural progression of knowledge. Very little "cringe" is involved by experts because they understand the work it takes to gain knowledge.
You may look at someone like Lamarck and laugh at his idea that acquired traits are inherited (cut tails off parent mice baby mice are born with shorter tails) but actual scientists know he was limited to the information available to him. There was nothing cringeworthy about it.
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Stop trolling for once in your sorry ass life
No the fuck it can't. Your enemy will not spend five decades trying to do something that will help you.
The way to reduce black abortions is to improve black health care and increase black wealth, two things the GOP has zero interest in doing.
Stating facts without context is some disingenuous bullshit.
Those were also potentially fatal pregnancies alongside children growing up in poverty.
Sounds like typical Republicans lol.
Dealing with facts and data, do you have any idea how many of those abortions were "potentially fatal pregnancies?" Seriously, please answer the question.
We will address your poverty comment shortly.
And here is yet another example of the media promoting the poor CACs vs blacks narrative. This is straight out of the democrat/ republican play book.
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I don't know how y'all have the energy to keep going back and forth with these brain dead idiots, shit is exhausting. They won't get it until the same rationale used to eviscerate Roe is used to limit their own personal freedoms and even then they likely won't understand what's happening. I think we're headed for some really tough times. This is the retarded legislative agenda we're debating about now and we haven't even gotten into the real supply chain disasters, economic upheavals and human misery that's about to unfold as Climate Change and automation kicks up a gear or two. Imagine what the agenda will look like then? That's been my operating assumption watching this shit unfold over the last 6 years in particular (although the writing's been on the wall much, much longer).
Folks seem to have an appetite for fascism and the reality is... it's coming.
Folks seem to have an appetite for fascism and the reality is... it's coming.
@Tito_Jackson
Do you believe in abortion if the mother's life is danger?
Do you believe in abortion in cases of incest?
Do you believe in abortion in cases where the mother is underage?
Do you believe in abortion in cases of sexual assault?
Do you believe in abortion if the mother's life is danger?
Do you believe in abortion in cases of incest?
Do you believe in abortion in cases where the mother is underage?
Do you believe in abortion in cases of sexual assault?
You’re better than me. I just presume if they’re this dumb they wouldn’t even know. I just assume those guys are either white or slow. Either way that’s a blessing.
Lemme save you some time bruh. @Tito_Jackson will give some meandering answer attempting to stake out some "middle ground" with respect to women's bodily autonomy. To the extent that he answers "NO" to any or all of the above he'll ignore that the same folks that have set the stage for this reversal or Roe over many decades of careful planning have already drafted/enacted trigger laws which bans abortions even in the most cruel circumstances listed above. Thus rendering his objections meaningless and performative given the context (much like all his other posts on this forum).
Word. I'm done bruh, this shit is beyond stupid.
We can talk about abortions or we can talk about snow in Mexico in the middle of June. And what did the high court say today? Precisely!Lemme save you some time bruh. @Tito_Jackson will give some meandering answer attempting to stake out some "middle ground" with respect to women's bodily autonomy. To the extent that he answers "NO" to any or all of the above he'll ignore that the same folks that have set the stage for this reversal or Roe over many decades of careful planning have already drafted/enacted trigger laws which bans abortions even in the most cruel circumstances listed above. Thus rendering his objections meaningless and performative given the context (much like all his other posts on this forum).
Word. I'm done bruh, this shit is beyond stupid.
Im not blessed with naivety. I live in a country that refused to manufacture masks for its inhabitants. So instead of reflecting on it and manufacturing masks, they fostered an infinity stone of ignorance to have folks believe that they can pick and win a fight against Covid. Ironically, the same people who don’t believe in Covid are also against abortions. That’s a luxury I can’t afford.
Corporate America has to step up their livable wages when they are dealing with a women with kids, a single women - the can low wage her all day with minimum wage. I always lie when they ask me about having kids to take advantage.
Pregnant or having women on the streets with kids is the worse brand image for capitalism.
You have way too many words for a cognitively impaired poster. You have to approach them like parents do their 2 year olds about perverts. What do you do when someone touches your private area? That’s how you approach them.
Is daddy always right? What if daddy touches you in your private area, is that right? Is it right for daddy to you make you a mommy?
There are alot of women living like this, with their unborn child exposing them. AG, Governor of Florida, was exposed when the police entered his room. I have heard stories about gay men killing their secret lovers to coverup their homosexuality. Here it is the fetus that will be DNA tested when born.
You just need to be truthful and honest with yourself, you set the standards for yourself to meet. If you have a sexual addiction to men, miscegenation, adultery, fornication....just come out of the closet. We just need to create a more tolerant/supportive environment.
Can he get pregnant and be faced with making that choice?
If not who gives a fuck what he thinks.