Update: Vice President Kamala Harris is now the Democratic presidential nominee

4 Dimensional

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Going to have to disagree with you on this premise, Self Science.

That’s exactly what the Dems did and they lost!

Could Kamala and Co have said their message more clearly? Ofcourse!

Bu remember hey had what 3 months to be as perfect as possible.

Here’s the kicker what message did Trump and Co give that was so resounding and clear?

Not a damn thing!

They relied on good ol race baiting and scare tactics.

Also remember there’s ALOT more uneducated and non-minoroties in the USA.

A new problem theryre going to have after this Kamala thing is making sure Blacks don’t say, “Fuck you! We were the main group that tried. We’re not doing shit going further anymore!”

The Dems base keeps changing every election cycle though. Trump’s base never changed.

Plus, selecting Kamala in the first was already an uphill battle because when she was selected as VP she caught a lot of backlash from her political history. And it lasted until she was running for president.

The GOP has been keeping the same messaging as long as I have been an eligible voter. However, the Dems base moves so much that it always seems like they are struggle to gain support.

To me that speaks more of inconsistent messaging. Dems seem to only win when America has had enough of GOP bullshit.

Yeah, the Black voter base was severely hurt this cycle and I feared that was going to be the case anyway. I can’t say that I blame them. But there are not true alternatives, unfortunately.
 

tical

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The Dems base keeps changing every election cycle though. Trump’s base never changed.

Plus, selecting Kamala in the first was already an uphill battle because when she was selected as VP she caught a lot of backlash from her political history. And it lasted until she was running for president.

The GOP has been keeping the same messaging as long as I have been an eligible voter. However, the Dems base moves so much that it always seems like they are struggle to gain support.

To me that speaks more of inconsistent messaging. Dems seem to only win when America has had enough of GOP bullshit.

Yeah, the Black voter base was severely hurt this cycle and I feared that was going to be the case anyway. I can’t say that I blame them. But there are not true alternatives, unfortunately.

Can’t argue with any of that. Although I must say, I don’t think the Dems message has change so much.

Just by philosophy, Dems will always have an uphill battle because of the all inclusive messaging they try to include.

Love or at-least tolerate most people is a hard sell when it’s so easy to hate and judge.

GOP? White is right and that’s it!
 

geechiedan

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The Dems base keeps changing every election cycle though. Trump’s base never changed.

Plus, selecting Kamala in the first was already an uphill battle because when she was selected as VP she caught a lot of backlash from her political history. And it lasted until she was running for president.

The GOP has been keeping the same messaging as long as I have been an eligible voter. However, the Dems base moves so much that it always seems like they are struggle to gain support.

To me that speaks more of inconsistent messaging. Dems seem to only win when America has had enough of GOP bullshit.

Yeah, the Black voter base was severely hurt this cycle and I feared that was going to be the case anyway. I can’t say that I blame them. But there are not true alternatives, unfortunately.
Trudat but the problem is as more progressives join the party the more each individual groups demands and agendas come into play. The concerns of the LGBTQ community is seen with great annoyance by other communities even as everyone has gay and trans in their own families. And the concerns of the black community is met with this face :rolleyes2: by other groups in the party because who gives a fuck about what black Americans think or feel.

But this is the problem that comes with having a big tent. Different agendas tend to clash. The GOP doesn't have that problem because they largely congregate under one idealogy social and fiscal conservativism to the point where people like gays submit their own agenda to serve the republican party. The charge for gay marriage and equality was led by liberals and progressives....not conservatives. Yet conservative gays benefited anyway. And then they vote trump in.

So the messaging from the Dems is scatter shot because they're trying to accommodate many different often clashing platforms.

Like it or not Israel is an ally with geopolitical positioning in a volatile part of the world... Palestine for all the empathy they engender... Is not. And you help your allies first and foremost even if they're as wrong as two left feet in an issue.

The Dems as the party of openness and inclusivity have a conflict the GOP doesn't have because a conservative tenent is exclusivity.

Name another political party that requires it's members to qualify to join them rather than saying what can we do to earn your support??

Think about that. The ONLY reason there aren't more blacks in the party is because they don't want that influence literally muddying up their platform. Otherwise most blacks social stances actually align with conservatives more often than not but most blacks aren't republicans....3 guesses why that is?
 
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durham

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Not going to lie, I think it should be Bakari


Talk about a major fuck you to Black people :smh: I am blue ticket down, since I was 18 years old, but I don't think could agree to support a organization led by this swindler.

Run from Black people all you want DNC, fuck around and find out :smh:
 

ghoststrike

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You don’t go against the wishes of the king… Them RINOs are about to find out how powerful Donald John really is. Donald John is rewarding loyalty.

:lol::popcorn::lol::popcorn::lol::popcorn:







 

DJCandle

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Not just boomers and Gen X but you have a lot of people that are older millennials that served in Iraq and Afghanistan that are getting disability that are about to be gnashing their teeth if this goes through. (I'll be one of them) :smh:
That’s very true. I’ll have to reach out to a few bros I know who served and are claiming. Hopefully it’s all talk and this administration is so inept, it never happens. I feel like we gon be hoping that for alotta things.
 
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