Weinstein tried to get Lupita at his house, with the family present

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I have been following the news and reading the accounts of women coming forward to talk about being assaulted by Harvey Weinstein and others. I had shelved my experience with Harvey far in the recesses of my mind, joining in the conspiracy of silence that has allowed this predator to prowl for so many years. I had felt very much alone when these things happened, and I had blamed myself for a lot of it, quite like many of the other women who have shared their stories.

But now that this is being discussed openly, I have not been able to avoid the memories resurfacing. I have felt sick in the pit of my stomach. I have felt such a flare of rage that the experience I recount below was not a unique incident with me, but rather part of a sinister pattern of behavior.

I met Harvey Weinstein in 2011 at an awards ceremony in Berlin, while I was still a student at the Yale School of Drama. An intermediary introduced him to me as “the most powerful producer in Hollywood.” As an aspiring actress, I was of course eager to meet people in the industry but cautious about strangers, and the intentions of men in general. So I tried to vet this famous producer by asking my dinner-table companions what they knew of him. A woman who was a producer herself cautiously advised me to “keep Harvey in your corner.” She said: “He is a good man to know in the business, but just be careful around him. He can be a bully.” And so I exchanged contacts with him in the hopes that I would be considered for one of his projects. I wanted to keep things professional, so I made a point of referring to him as “Mr. Weinstein.” But he insisted that I call him by his first name. In this first encounter, I found him to be very direct and authoritative, but also charming. He didn’t quite put me at ease, but he didn’t alarm me, either.

Not long after we met in Berlin, Harvey wrote to me inviting me to attend a screening of a film — a competitor’s film similar to one he had produced. He said we would be watching it with his family at his home in Westport, Conn., which was not far away from New Haven, where I was living at the time. He would send a car to pick me up. I accepted the invitation.

The driver and I met Harvey in the little town of Westport, where he informed me that we would be having lunch at a restaurant before getting to his home. I did not think much of this. It was a busy restaurant, and as soon as we sat down he ordered a vodka and diet soda for himself. I asked for a juice. Harvey was unimpressed with my choice and told the waiter to bring me a vodka and diet soda instead. I declined and said I wanted the juice. We went back and forth until finally he turned to the waiter and said, “Get her what I tell you to get her. I’m the one paying the bill.” I smiled and remained silent. The waiter left and returned with a vodka and diet soda for me. He placed it on the table beside my water. I drank the water. Harvey told me that I needed to drink the vodka and diet soda. I informed him that I would not.

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“Why not?” I remember him asking. “Because I don’t like vodka, and I don’t like diet soda, and I don’t like them together,” I said. “You are going to drink that,” he insisted. I smiled again and said that I wouldn’t. He gave up and called me stubborn. I said, “I know.” And the meal proceeded without much further ado. In this second encounter with Harvey, I found him to be pushy and idiosyncratic more than anything.

We got to his home after lunch and I met his domestic staff and his young children. He took me on a brief tour of the house before he rounded us all up in the screening room to watch the film. He had just produced a similar film of his own, but everyone was raving about this rival version.

I settled in for the film, but about 15 minutes in, Harvey came for me, saying he wanted to show me something. I protested that I wanted to finish the film first, but he insisted I go with him, laying down the law as though I too was one of his children. I did not want another back-and-forth in front of his kids, so I complied and left the room with him. I explained that I really wanted to see the film. He said we’d go back shortly.

Harvey led me into a bedroom — his bedroom — and announced that he wanted to give me a massage. I thought he was joking at first. He was not. For the first time since I met him, I felt unsafe. I panicked a little and thought quickly to offer to give him one instead: It would allow me to be in control physically, to know exactly where his hands were at all times.

Part of our drama school curriculum at Yale included body work, using massage techniques on one another to understand the connection between body, mind and emotion, and so I felt I could rationalize giving him one and keep a semblance of professionalism in spite of the bizarre circumstance. He agreed to this and lay on the bed. I began to massage his back to buy myself time to figure out how to extricate myself from this undesirable situation. Before long he said he wanted to take off his pants. I told him not to do that and informed him that it would make me extremely uncomfortable. He got up anyway to do so and I headed for the door, saying that I was not at all comfortable with that. “If we’re not going to watch the film, I really should head back to school,” I said.

I opened the door and stood by the frame. He put his shirt on and again mentioned how stubborn I was. I agreed with an easy laugh, trying to get myself out of the situation safely. I was after all on his premises, and the members of his household, the potential witnesses, were all (strategically, it seems to me now) in a soundproof room.

Earlier Harvey had sent the driver to the store to buy a boxed collection of “The No. 1 Ladies’ Detective Agency,” an HBO show that he had produced. This was the project he thought I would be right for, he said. (I later found out that the show had not been on the air for some time.) As I prepared to leave his home, he presented it to me. He wanted me to check it out and let him know what I thought. He would be in touch about it. I left for New Haven with his driver.

I didn’t quite know how to process the massage incident. I reasoned that it had been inappropriate and uncalled-for, but not overtly sexual. I was entering into a business where the intimate is often professional and so the lines are blurred. I was in an educational program where I was giving massages to my classmates and colleagues every day. Though the incident with Harvey had made me uncomfortable, I was able to explain and justify it to myself, and shelve it as an awkward moment. His offer to me to be a part of the HBO show was a very attractive one and I was excited about it, especially as I would be graduating in another year. I didn’t know how to proceed without jeopardizing my future. But I knew I would not be accepting any more visits to private spaces with Harvey Weinstein.

I decided to invite Harvey to come to a production I was in at school. Perhaps that way he would really see what I had to offer, and he would see my colleagues, too. He accepted the invitation, but the night of the production, he sent a message saying he had been caught up in New York and would be unable to attend. He would make it up to me. So when I received an official invitation to a staged reading of his new Broadway show, “Finding Neverland,” I was not surprised. I was still debating whether I should accept his invitation, and so I responded saying I was not certain that I could make it because of my school schedule. He responded with exactly the words I needed to hear: Come with whomever you want to come with. And so I invited two of my trusted male friends.

We attended the reading, and afterward Harvey invited us all to a restaurant for dinner with his comrades and collaborators. He sat me next to him, and another actress sat across from me. He had my friends sit at a different table. The talk was shop the whole time and Harvey held court with ease. He was charming and funny once more, and I felt confused about the discomfort I had previously experienced. I looked at the actress who I was informed had just worked with him on a project, searching her face for any sort of indication that she too had been made to feel uncomfortable by this powerful man, but of course I saw nothing. We did not stay very long because we had to catch a train back to New Haven. My friends had been equally charmed by Harvey. He knew when to turn it on if he wanted something. He was definitely a bully, but he could be really charming, which was disarming and confusing. I left feeling that perhaps he had learned my boundaries and was going to respect them.

A couple of months later, I received an email from Harvey, inviting me again to New York for a screening of “W.E.” After the screening, we would have drinks in TriBeCa. I then received a phone call from one of his male assistants to arrange my transportation. Feeling more confident about the new sense of boundaries that we had established in our last meeting, I attended the screening on my own this time. Afterward, as planned, his male assistant arranged for me to get to the Tribeca Grill, where Harvey would be joining us. I met a female assistant when I arrived there. I was expecting that it would be a group of us, as it had been for the reading, but she informed me it would just be Mr. Weinstein. She would sit with me until he arrived. She seemed on edge, but I could only imagine how stressful it was to work for a man who had so much going on.

Harvey arrived and the assistant immediately disappeared. We ordered drinks and starters. Again he was offended by my nonalcoholic beverage choice but he didn’t fight me on it as hard. Before the starters arrived, he announced: “Let’s cut to the chase. I have a private room upstairs where we can have the rest of our meal.” I was stunned. I told him I preferred to eat in the restaurant. He told me not to be so naïve. If I wanted to be an actress, then I had to be willing to do this sort of thing. He said he had dated Famous Actress X and Y and look where that had gotten them.



I was silent for a while before I mustered up the courage to politely decline his offer. “You have no idea what you are passing up,” he said. “With all due respect, I would not be able to sleep at night if I did what you are asking, so I must pass,” I replied.

His whole demeanor changed at that point. “Then I guess we are two ships passing in the night.” I had never heard that saying before, so I remember asking him what it meant. “It means just that,” he said. “We are two ships going in two different directions.”

“Yes, I guess we are.”

“So we are done here,” he said. “You can leave.”

We got up, having not eaten anything, and he led me out of the restaurant. My heart was beating very fast. A cab was hailed for me. I said I would take the subway (I could not afford a cab at the time), but he handed me some money and told me not to be silly, take the cab. Before I got in, I needed to make sure that I had not awakened a beast that would go on to ruin my name and destroy my chances in the business even before I got there.

“I just want to know that we are good,” I said.

“I don’t know about your career, but you’ll be fine,” he said. It felt like both a threat and a reassurance at the same time; of what, I couldn’t be sure.

I did not see Harvey again until September 2013 when I was in Toronto for the premiere of “12 Years a Slave,” the first feature film I was in. At an after-party, he found me and evicted whoever was sitting next to me to sit beside me. He said he couldn’t believe how fast I had gotten to where I was, and that he had treated me so badly in the past. He was ashamed of his actions and he promised to respect me moving forward. I said thank you and left it at that. But I made a quiet promise to myself to never ever work with Harvey Weinstein.

Not long after I won the Academy Award in 2014, I received an offer to play a role in one of the Weinstein Company’s forthcoming films. I knew I would not do it simply because it was the Weinstein Company, but I did not feel comfortable telling this to anybody. I turned down the role, but Harvey would not take no for an answer. While at Cannes, he insisted on meeting with me in person. I agreed to do it only because my agent would be present. In the meeting, he was honest about intending to persuade me to do his movie. I told him I simply did not feel it was a role I needed to play. He said he was open to making it bigger, more significant, maybe they could add a love scene. He said if I did this one for him, he would do another one for me — basically guaranteeing backing a star-vehicle film for me. I ran out of ways of politely saying no and so did my agent. I was so exasperated by the end that I just kept quiet. Harvey finally accepted my position and expressed that he still wanted to work with me at some point. “Thank you, I hope so,” I lied.

And that was the last of my personal encounters with Harvey Weinstein. I share all of this now because I know now what I did not know then. I was part of a growing community of women who were secretly dealing with harassment by Harvey Weinstein. But I also did not know that there was a world in which anybody would care about my experience with him. You see, I was entering into a community that Harvey Weinstein had been in, and even shaped, long before I got there. He was one of the first people I met in the industry, and he told me, “This is the way it is.” And wherever I looked, everyone seemed to be bracing themselves and dealing with him, unchallenged. I did not know that things could change. I did not know that anybody wanted things to change. So my survival plan was to avoid Harvey and men like him at all costs, and I did not know that I had allies in this.

Fortunately for me, I have not dealt with any such incidents in the business since. And I think it is because all the projects I have been a part of have had women in positions of power, along with men who are feminists in their own right who have not abused their power. What I am most interested in now is combating the shame we go through that keeps us isolated and allows for harm to continue to be done. I wish I had known that there were women in the business I could have talked to. I wish I had known that there were ears to hear me. That justice could be served. There is clearly power in numbers. I thank the women who have spoken up and given me the strength to revisit this unfortunate moment in my past.

Our business is complicated because intimacy is part and parcel of our profession; as actors we are paid to do very intimate things in public. That’s why someone can have the audacity to invite you to their home or hotel and you show up. Precisely because of this we must stay vigilant and ensure that the professional intimacy is not abused. I hope we are in a pivotal moment where a sisterhood — and brotherhood of allies — is being formed in our industry. I hope we can form a community where a woman can speak up about abuse and not suffer another abuse by not being believed and instead being ridiculed. That’s why we don’t speak up — for fear of suffering twice, and for fear of being labeled and characterized by our moment of powerlessness. Though we may have endured powerlessness at the hands of Harvey Weinstein, by speaking up, speaking out and speaking together, we regain that power. And we hopefully ensure that this kind of rampant predatory behavior as an accepted feature of our industry dies here and now.

Now that we are speaking, let us never shut up about this kind of thing. I speak up to make certain that this is not the kind of misconduct that deserves a second chance. I speak up to contribute to the end of the conspiracy of silence.

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I swear to god if he wouldve touch my QUEEN LUPITA
there gonna be some flowers bringin

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"protect me, Queen"
 

exiledking

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Lol dude was literally doing shit out of bad movie scripts.

She took WAY too long to lay down the law on his ass but I guess that's what they mean.by these ladies being scared of him ruining their shot. These people value acting careers too damn much. Gives someone like him all that power.

When you're sitting their trying to rationalize giving that old fuck massages , you're really trying to.see how much you can get without fucking - it's usually peoples own hustle that gets them hustled. Fortunately for her she realized there was no halfway with him and she just had to be straight up. If she wouldve barked on him from jump his ass wouldve probably bitched up. I'm sure there were a ton of chicks with crazy game that had that dude paying just to smell it. Aw man, the whole thing is crazy.
 

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Harvey arrived and the assistant immediately disappeared. We ordered drinks and starters. Again he was offended by my nonalcoholic beverage choice but he didn’t fight me on it as hard. Before the starters arrived, he announced: “Let’s cut to the chase. I have a private room upstairs where we can have the rest of our meal.” I was stunned. I told him I preferred to eat in the restaurant. He told me not to be so naïve. If I wanted to be an actress, then I had to be willing to do this sort of thing. He said he had dated Famous Actress X and Y and look where that had gotten them.

That shouldve been where Lupita couldve at least threw her drink in his face and walked out..
 

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dude was watching too much porn..the fuck with these massage offers???
The massage game aint the problem... Shit i spent most of my 20's running that scam. The problematic part is a successful and powerful guy in his 50s/60s still running it. No way in hell i can see myself still resorting to bush league tactics like that.. Either we fucking or we not.. Im well beyond trying to con a woman into intimacy tho. And his status should have been all the convincing he needed.
 

exiledking

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The massage game aint the problem... Shit i spent most of my 20's running that scam. The problematic part is a successful and powerful guy in his 50s/60s still running it. No way in hell i can see myself still resorting to bush league tactics like that.. Either we fucking or we not.. Im well beyond trying to con a woman into intimacy tho. And his status should have been all the convincing he needed.
Lol right. I got to a point in my life where if I shoot my shot early WITH WORDS and body language. If she ain't flowing how I want it to flow then whatever. I move on. Mind you, I've found out later that I was wrong and she really wanted me to be more aggressive but I aint got time for that. I'm cool with missing out. I can't imagine being like that in my 50s. But some guys are just always like that
 

exiledking

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I would like to know the number of women that happily volunteered to sleep/massaged him to stay or work in Hollywood.

He's really comfortable on asking for massages.

Out of 3.....one is down for it
Oh it definitely worked NUMEROUS TIMES. I Mean, basically all he did was shoot his shot. It's just that he's old and white. If that was Boris Kudjoe who asked her for a massage she woulda been rabbit ears
 

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LOL. :smh: Charmed? Tried to get her drunk? Private screening room? LURED her from there to the bedroom? :hmm: Then she felt scared and needs an exit plan? FOH.

First, why is he still running that game. Second, why is she even falling for it given the industry. Last but not least, everyone knew what the fuck they were doing in that situation.

IMHO, stories like this hurt real stories of sexual abuse. This cat running lame game, she into it because of the money, and now talks shit. Real victims need to start calling out bullshit. Putting in bids with flashy shit isn't sexual assault.
 

exiledking

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LOL. :smh: Charmed? Tried to get her drunk? Private screening room? LURED her from there to the bedroom? :hmm: Then she felt scared and needs an exit plan? FOH.

First, why is he still running that game. Second, why is she even falling for it given the industry. Last but not least, everyone knew what the fuck they were doing in that situation.

IMHO, stories like this hurt real stories of sexual abuse. This cat running lame game, she into it because of the money, and now talks shit. Real victims need to start calling out bullshit. Putting in bids with flashy shit isn't sexual assault.
I dare you to write this on your fb page lmaoooo
 

exiledking

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LOL. :smh: Charmed? Tried to get her drunk? Private screening room? LURED her from there to the bedroom? :hmm: Then she felt scared and needs an exit plan? FOH.

First, why is he still running that game. Second, why is she even falling for it given the industry. Last but not least, everyone knew what the fuck they were doing in that situation.

IMHO, stories like this hurt real stories of sexual abuse. This cat running lame game, she into it because of the money, and now talks shit. Real victims need to start calling out bullshit. Putting in bids with flashy shit isn't sexual assault.

She "got lured" into the other room away from everyone else with him. Wtf did she think he was gonna try after he already tried to get her liquored up?

THEN , he says he wants to give her a massage. Let's say I buy that she was SO SCARED that she couldn't get away that she decided to offer him a massage.

Ok, NOW hes laying on his fucking stomach. She can't get away now?

I dunno man
 

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She "got lured" into the other room away from everyone else with him. Wtf did she think he was gonna try after he already tried to get her liquored up?

THEN , he says he wants to give her a massage. Let's say I buy that she was SO SCARED that she couldn't get away that she decided to offer him a massage.

Ok, NOW hes laying on his fucking stomach. She can't get away now?

I dunno man


So this is another story of a person - of age- compromising their morals and integrity to possibly gain favor of a very powerful person.

Not a popular opinion but fuck it...

Unless ol boy unknowingly drugged, raped, or fucked one of these chicks- or dudes- when they were underage then it sounds like an 'quid pro quo' scenario with adults making adult decisions.

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And let me stress again that IF the aforementioned conditions were avoided then the only horror here is how common this all is....and will continue to be.

*two cents*
 
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gene cisco

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I dare you to write this on your fb page lmaoooo

:eek::eek::eek::eek: Barely want to type that shit here. Objective opinions and critical thinking are basically social media fatwas these days.

She "got lured" into the other room away from everyone else with him. Wtf did she think he was gonna try after he already tried to get her liquored up?

THEN , he says he wants to give her a massage. Let's say I buy that she was SO SCARED that she couldn't get away that she decided to offer him a massage.

Ok, NOW hes laying on his fucking stomach. She can't get away now?

I dunno man

None of it makes sense, but feminists have been allowed to take over the narrative on sexual assault and rape. These things can only be explained from the female point of view and men need to stfu.

Meanwhile, we all know how shit goes down for the most part. In a few cases with rich and famous men, it is physical rape. In a lot of cases, these women laughing at the nice guy putting bids in and rolling with the ugly, fat, mean man with the nice toys. When the mean man doesn't deliver, they cry foul.

What's next? Women who fucked him, Harvey said he'd leave his wife and didn't, and now they want to be victims? FOH.

Separate real victims from fake ones. He's a scumbag, but he is getting shit on for some sloppy game cases while the real ones should be highlighted.
 

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So this is another story of a person - of age- compromising their morals and integrity to possibly gain favor of a very powerful person.

Not a popular opinion but fuck it...

Unless ol boy unknowingly drugged, raped, or fucked one of these chicks- or dudes- when they were underage then it sounds like an 'quid pro quo' scenario with adults making adult decisions.

Casting couch hall of fame...

*two cents*

Agree 100%. Now that the cat is out of the bag, you see chicks panicking to save face. Eventually, I think we will discover that some of the biggest stars have decades of fucking/sucking for roles in their past. Respect to the chicks that had the self respect to report this asshole to the police. It could have ended a long time ago had people not tried to benefit from it.
 

exiledking

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:eek::eek::eek::eek: Barely want to type that shit here. Objective opinions and critical thinking are basically social media fatwas these days.



None of it makes sense, but feminists have been allowed to take over the narrative on sexual assault and rape. These things can only be explained from the female point of view and men need to stfu.

Meanwhile, we all know how shit goes down for the most part. In a few cases with rich and famous men, it is physical rape. In a lot of cases, these women laughing at the nice guy putting bids in and rolling with the ugly, fat, mean man with the nice toys. When the mean man doesn't deliver, they cry foul.

What's next? Women who fucked him, Harvey said he'd leave his wife and didn't, and now they want to be victims? FOH.

Separate real victims from fake ones. He's a scumbag, but he is getting shit on for some sloppy game cases while the real ones should be highlighted.
Yup

Lupita, in a very slight way , kids disappoints me here. Either she's stupid and naive for her age at the time, and she's caught up in this feminist narrative NOW, And thinks this is saying something- which means she's STILL naive

OR

She tried to bargain the idea of sex with some work with him, realized he want gonna make shit move without fucking, and now shes dogpiling
 

exiledking

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Agree 100%. Now that the cat is out of the bag, you see chicks panicking to save face. Eventually, I think we will discover that some of the biggest stars have decades of fucking/sucking for roles in their past. Respect to the chicks that had the self respect to report this asshole to the police. It could have ended a long time ago had people not tried to benefit from it.
Lol and I see people calling HER brave. She's only coming out now that someone else did the heavy lifting. And all that really happened is a guy who's physically out of her league, tried to compensate for it with his money and position - and it almost worked.
 

exiledking

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So her sliding scale is 60 something yr old white men only get massages. I wonder what 50 somethings get. Well now that she has some money and a name, I guess the price went up.
 

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Lol and I see people calling HER brave. She's only coming out now that someone else did the heavy lifting. And all that really happened is a guy who's physically out of her league, tried to compensate for it with his money and position - and it almost worked.

Man. YOU post that shit on Facebook. :roflmao:

I remember a cat who looked like Bizarro Biggie coming up to our high school and just getting chicks because he had the nice ride and clothes. Understand, a lot of chicks weren't into that shit, but the ones who were...they knew what they were doing.
 

exiledking

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Man. YOU post that shit on Facebook. :roflmao:

I remember a cat who looked like Bizarro Biggie coming up to our high school and just getting chicks because he had the nice ride and clothes. Understand, a lot of chicks weren't into that shit, but the ones who were...they knew what they were doing.
Lol I am not crazy sir. I don't need the problems.
 

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Lol and I see people calling HER brave. She's only coming out now that someone else did the heavy lifting. And all that really happened is a guy who's physically out of her league, tried to compensate for it with his money and position - and it almost worked.

I hate this shit because there are actual woman haters who blame women for wearing the "wrong" clothes et al. who will take this and run. However, like I said before, these are grown women who were victims of their own greed and need to be accepted. You can smell the revisionism and ass covering in the air now. :smh:
 

exiledking

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I hate this shit because there are actual woman haters who blame women for wearing the "wrong" clothes et al. who will take this and run. However, like I said before, these are grown women who were victims of their own greed and need to be accepted. You can smell the revisionism and ass covering in the air now. :smh:
I can't believe I'm doing this but I'm gonna go Tariq Nasheed here- and call her a suspected bed wench. I mean, why are we to believe it was just a massage? I mean, she DID end up with a big role. Not his production but maybe he put in a word for her. She said she had to make sure they were still good. Then after she got her name and accolades enough to stand on her own she backed away. Now she knows she's associated with his name and decides to put this out to cover her tracks. Just a theory
 

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I can't believe I'm doing this but I'm gonna go Tariq Nasheed here- and call her a suspected bed wench. I mean, why are we to believe it was just a massage? I mean, she DID end up with a big role. Not his production but maybe he put in a word for her. She said she had to make sure they were still good. Then after she got her name and accolades enough to stand on her own she backed away. Now she knows she's associated with his name and decides to put this out to cover her tracks. Just a theory
sounds about right
 

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I said before, these are grown women who were victims of their own greed and need to be accepted. You can smell the revisionism and ass covering in the air now.

Yep. Notice how all of the A-listers was overcome with indignation and left with their head high because they refuse to be objectified.

Fuck Outta Here.

I know SOME of yall bitches definitely put out. Hotel Harvey ain't lying.
 

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Lol dude was literally doing shit out of bad movie scripts.

She took WAY too long to lay down the law on his ass but I guess that's what they mean.by these ladies being scared of him ruining their shot. These people value acting careers too damn much. Gives someone like him all that power.

When you're sitting their trying to rationalize giving that old fuck massages , you're really trying to.see how much you can get without fucking - it's usually peoples own hustle that gets them hustled. Fortunately for her she realized there was no halfway with him and she just had to be straight up. If she wouldve barked on him from jump his ass wouldve probably bitched up. I'm sure there were a ton of chicks with crazy game that had that dude paying just to smell it. Aw man, the whole thing is crazy.


12 years a slave was 4 years ago, this is prior to that. How old do you thinks she was? He preyed on young woman. I think she said she was just finishing up college. At 22 i would have no problem fucking an old woman to get ahead. We are different from women and fucking isn't a priority for them. We cant understand the bullshit they put up with but I can empathize. I don't think she did anything wrong. Some women did bark at him but think of all the women that submitted thinking they would become a star.''

I really want to have a bigger convo on this. I can talk down on Weinstein but can i say i would be any better if I was in his position. I fuck chicks that want to fuck me, but I'm not rich, I dont deal with many 22 year olds, and cant elevate someone's career. If i could would I trade fucking them for helping them? I hope I'm better than that. But I've never been in that position. I have friends now, based on their current behavior would be 10 times worse than Weinstein. Where does everyone think they would fit into this spectrum, better, much worse, or somewhere in between?
 

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Lol dude was literally doing shit out of bad movie scripts.

She took WAY too long to lay down the law on his ass but I guess that's what they mean.by these ladies being scared of him ruining their shot. These people value acting careers too damn much. Gives someone like him all that power.

When you're sitting their trying to rationalize giving that old fuck massages , you're really trying to.see how much you can get without fucking - it's usually peoples own hustle that gets them hustled. Fortunately for her she realized there was no halfway with him and she just had to be straight up. If she wouldve barked on him from jump his ass wouldve probably bitched up. I'm sure there were a ton of chicks with crazy game that had that dude paying just to smell it. Aw man, the whole thing is crazy.
This.
 
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