Why can't Patrick Ewing get an NBA head-coaching job?

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Good read from 2015, at which point Ewing had received two head coaching interviews in 13 years. He's still not even really being considered.

Why can't Patrick Ewing land NBA head-coaching job?
Howard Megdal, Special for USA TODAY Sports
March 7, 2015

BROOKLYN — Patrick Ewing didn't feel like talking about his goal, the one he has been pursuing for more than a decade: NBA head coach.

He has talked about it before. He's made no secret of his wishes, then or now.

"All I can do is continue to coach, continue to work, be good at my craft, and hopefully, one day, that will help me when and if I get that opportunity," Ewing said last season, his first as associate head coach of the then-Charlotte Bobcats under Steve Clifford.

"I enjoy coaching. You know, I feel blessed that something I enjoy doing keeps me involved in the game on a day-to-day basis."

It makes the grind easier. He wants his chance. Meanwhile, he loves the process.

So this year, he isn't talking about it anymore. He started coaching as an assistant for the Washington Wizards back in 2002. Put another way, he's been a coach for nearly as long as he played with the New York Knicks, an era that lasted from 1985-2000 and seemed to go on forever.

But this is Ewing now, standing a few feet away from Bismack Biyombo hours before the game against the Brooklyn Nets, his demeanor a combination of fun and focus. Ewing kept breaking out into that smile those who know him know well but is missing from the scowling portrayal of Ewing that dates back to his playing days.

Still, though, Ewing never took his eyes off Biyombo, making sure he followed through on the drill — stop, turn — the shot Ewing so often put in the hoop during his playing days and now has helped a new generation of NBA players master.

Still he waits.

"He's not at all a self-promoter," Clifford, his boss and one of his best friends, told USA TODAY Sports. Clifford is one of many of colleagues who try to compensate by going out of their way to speak on Ewing's behalf. "We were together in Houston and in Orlando. And both times, when Jeff called him to come to Houston, and Stan called him to come to Orlando, his big thing was, 'I'll come as long as I'm doing everything everybody else is doing.' A lot of guys don't want all the work. He embraced all the work. But I don't think that story gets out there because he doesn't worry about it."

Ewing is relentless at practice. He breaks down video. He does more than just bring out the best in Al Jefferson, one of the NBA's few remaining back-to-the-basket centers. He does the same for Kemba Walker, a point guard who has little more than Big East Conference collegiate heroics in common with Ewing.

"He's a great communicator with the players," Clifford said. "He has a ton of knowledge. And he communicates with them in such a way that it isn't just about, say, a jump hook. He establishes relationships where he really coaches them."

Nor is Ewing simply trading on his reputation, allowing his résumé — top-50 NBA player, first ballot Hall of Famer — serve as a player's attention-getter. Nor is it clear he could: Biyombo was born in 1992. He was an infant in the Democratic Republic of Congo when Ewing battled Hakeem Olajuwon in the 1994 NBA Finals.

But Biyombo smiles when the subject of Ewing comes up.

"More than anything, it's just about having a better understanding of the game," Biyombo said of his interaction with Ewing. "And to have a better understanding of your teammates. He's been part of the game for a long time. He understands the game. He has a job for all of us to help us improve. I'm very thankful to have him."

Ewing has been a part of two Clifford teams now. Last year, Charlotte improved to 43-39, earning a playoff bid few expected. This season, even battling injuries to key players — Biyombo missed a month, Walker was recently cleared to practice after six weeks out — the Hornets again are seventh in the Eastern Conference.

This is the same franchise that went 21-61 the season before Clifford and Ewing arrived, 7-59 the season before that. It's the type of thing that usually leads to a raiding of the staff by other NBA teams with head-coach openings, particularly the top assistant.

"Things have to break your way," Clifford said. "The year I got my opportunity, there were a lot of jobs for franchises that were in a building mode, where they were going to hire a first-time head coach rather than the established coach, simply put, let's face it, because of the money. Other years, there aren't as many jobs."

Still, Ewing's received two interviews in 13 years. Even if, as Jefferson described it, point guards are assumed to know the game, and big men have to prove it, Ewing's done so. Clifford put him in charge of the Hornets' summer league team, and the results were telling.

"The first two or three games, we weren't even competitive," Clifford said. "And by the time they got through the week, just because of the way he handled it, coached them, was positive but firm. And by the end, he got them into the tournament play and won a couple of games. And it was all good coaching."

Clifford isn't his only supporter. There's a litany of players as well as coaches such as John Thompson, Jeff Van Gundy and Pat Riley, all mystified by Ewing's inability to get a chance. There will be jobs available this offseason, including one with the Orlando Magic, where Ewing finished his playing career.

"I don't know what the answer is," Clifford said. "I know he is an excellent coach, and he has more than paid his dues. If you're around him every day, you see it. I lean on him for a lot of things, the tough times. But he'll come to me. ... He helps me in every imaginable way.

"He was a committed, serious player. And that's just how he is as a coach."

Clifford will be sad to see him go, if Ewing finally gets one of the 30 jobs that exist. But he knows it's time.
 

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I think these are main three reasons, in order of importance.

1. Viewed as inarticulate. But nobody goes to an NBA game to watch or hear the coach and no NBA team has ever made a dime of profit based on the coach's ability to host a post-game press conference. So this should be irrelevant but I believe it's the reason he was not getting job interviews.

2. Bias against centers-- see Kareem, all the guards coaching.

3. Physical appearance. When you add up race, tone, size, nationality (Ewing was born in Kingston, Jamaica and didn't come to the U.S. until he was a teen), Ewing is a big black guy and the same elements that had people throwing bananas at him and calling him a gorilla keep him from being considered for a more "intellectual" NBA position today. It's not everything-- Shaq would be more likely to get an interview than Ewing, mainly for reason #1, despite being basically the same demographically.
 

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Peace,

Most times, as a black man, the only way to get what you deserve is to fight and jockey for it. You can't let these crackers tell you no. Ewing has been content to say, "Oh well.." whenever he isn't chosen. He's got to take more of an active role in shaping his own career.

Interesting angle-- In what way? Can you think of a particular instance where he could have been more vocal? I'm not sure what he could/should have done differently.
 

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You peeps all know why he hasn't gotten a head coaching gig yet.
A head coach is the face of the franchise; especially if the team has no media friendly verbose superstar players.
Tim Duncan a first ballot "hall-of-famer" is a morose, dour, not press friendly player.
His coach Gregg Popovich handled the media for Duncan in a similar way that Bill Parcells handled the media for some of his superstar football players who were not press friendly. Charles Barkley could get a head coaching job anytime he wanted one; it doesn't matter if he's qualified to coach our not, in team owners minds he's a guy who they can mentally picture as the face of the franchise; he's media savvy. Patrick should of taken a television "talking head" job for a few years in order to sharpen up his ability to deliver those concise 30 second to one minute sound bites that sports television media survives on. The primarily middle age to old white men who own these NBA teams remember Georgetown Patrick Ewing who was deathly afraid to even speak when someone put a microphone and television camera in front of him.


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And the his old agent David Faulk made a ton of enemies....

He never kissed ass...and it's funny how all of sudden NOW all these sports writers are in love with him and saying how he was always a great interview and treasure...

They NEVER said all that when he was playing.

Really good point with David Faulk that I hadn't heard or considered. I'm really looking for answers on this shit because it seems terribly unfair.

Also, could you link to a couple of the recent "always a great interview and treasure" articles? I haven't seen that.
 

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You peeps all know why he hasn't gotten a head coaching gig yet.
A head coach is the face of the franchise; especially if the team has no media friendly verbose superstar players.
Tim Duncan a first ballot "hall-of-famer" is a morose, dour, not press friendly player.
His coach Gregg Popovich handled the media for Duncan in a similar way that Bill Parcells handled the media for some of his superstar football players who were not press friendly. Charles Barkley could get a head coaching job anytime he wanted one; it doesn't matter if he's qualified to coach our not, in team owners minds he's a guy who they can mentally picture as the face of the franchise; he's media savvy. Patrick should of taken a television "talking head" job for a few years in order to sharpen up his ability to deliver those concise 30 second to one minute sound bites that sports television media survives on. The primarily middle age to old white men who own these NBA teams remember Georgetown Patrick Ewing who was deathly afraid to even speak when someone put a microphone and television camera in front of him.

Maybe Ewing should take a media class-- I honestly couldn't ever see him as a TV talking head. But it's ridiculous that that's what is keeping him out.

I agree, it's the #1 reason in my view but it has absolutely nothing to do with running a basketball team. Or even the team's profits. It's just bullshit.
 

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Interesting angle-- In what way? Can you think of a particular instance where he could have been more vocal? I'm not sure what he could/should have done differently.

Ewing has trust issues and it showed as a player, especially when it came time for autographs an interviews. He was more of an "actions speak louder than words" type of dude. The article even says it:

"He's not at all a self-promoter," Clifford, his boss and one of his best friends, told USA TODAY Sports. Clifford is one of many of colleagues who try to compensate by going out of their way to speak on Ewing's behalf. "We were together in Houston and in Orlando. And both times, when Jeff called him to come to Houston, and Stan called him to come to Orlando, his big thing was, 'I'll come as long as I'm doing everything everybody else is doing.' A lot of guys don't want all the work. He embraced all the work. But I don't think that story gets out there because he doesn't worry about it."
 

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Ewing has trust issues and it showed as a player, especially when it came time for autographs an interviews. He was more of an "actions speak louder than words" type of dude. The article even says it:

Yup.

Look back after every single solitary soul crushing loss...

Ewing took ever damn question.

Never ran, never hid, never had a tantrum.

Thats John Thompson influence

And now these ny writers look back and realize how he was the foundation. And the bedrock of that organization. He handled the media so well through loses lock outs gold club everything.

So NOW they realize how valuable he was to ny sports

And after the horribly blatant racism he faced in Boston, DC and even later in NY, he still doesn't get enough credit.
 

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Yup.

Look back after every single solitary soul crushing loss...

Ewing took ever damn question.

Never ran, never hid, never had a tantrum.

Thats John Thompson influence

And now these ny writers look back and realize how he was the foundation. And the bedrock of that organization. He handled the media so well through loses lock outs gold club everything.

So NOW they realize how valuable he was to ny sports

And after the horribly blatant racism he faced in Boston, DC and even later in NY, he still doesn't get enough credit.

They turned on him early:

In 1983, Ewing became the #1 target of every team in the conference. Some of the attacks were on the court, others, off it. St. John's deployed a 6-3 guard named Kevin Williams to simply harass and elbow Ewing at every opportunity until he retaliated, but it didn't stop Ewing from averaging 17 points and 13.5 rebounds in two games against the Redmen that season. Off the court, a number of Big East schools looked the other way as Ewing was the subject of some of the worst race-baiting in a generation. Signs such as "Ewing Can't Read This" and "Think Ewing Think" were paraded around Big East arenas; at other schools, objects were thrown at him on the court. In one game at the Carrier Dome, an orange nearly hit Ewing while attempting a free throw, whereupon coach Syracuse Jim Boeheim grabbed a microphone told the sold out crowd he'd forfeit the game outright if conduct like that ever happened again.

To his credit, Ewing never acknowledged such abuse, preferring to answer his critics on the court. The juxtaposition of race played to the worst in Big East fans, many of whom were educated at Catholic schools, and served only to further harden the team against such attacks.
 

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While it's true that racism colors everything, these owners are about making money. And winning makes money. I'd say it's more about his abilities than anything else. He's been in the league for decades, his abilities are well known by now. As are his shortcomings. The league is talent driven and head coaches need to be psychologists more than anything else. Assistant coaches really handle the X's and O's. Maybe he excels at that but doesn't have the temperament to be the head coach.
 

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The militant in me is like how the fuck has Kurt Rambis had 3 head coaching jobs but Pat can't get one? Here's my take on why he hasn't been hired:

1. He's the posterchild of under achievement for the 90s.

He's the antithesis on the achievements of Jordan, Hakeem, and the beginning of the Spurs era. Every Jordan and Hakeem highlight reel shows him being embarrassed. That has been ingrained in all of the basketball world's psyche.

2. He's not a part of any legacy/coaching tree.

Look at the majority of coaches getting jobs. They are either NBA champions or have come up under the tutelage of a great coach. Teams want a visual body of work of what to expect and since Ewing has been an assistant on mediocre to decent teams (outside of the Magic run), he doesn't really resonant with GMs in a "win now" league. If Pat Riley gave him a spot, things might be different.

3. He represents an obsolete era of basketball.

Ewing was a highly skilled traditional big man from an era of highly skilled traditional big men. He played for teams that were extremely physical and played predominantly half court, play driven offense. He isn't considered an analytics driven coach, which trends opposite of what GMs are looking for in this copycat league.
 

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Yup.

Look back after every single solitary soul crushing loss...

Ewing took ever damn question.

Never ran, never hid, never had a tantrum.

Thats John Thompson influence

And now these ny writers look back and realize how he was the foundation. And the bedrock of that organization. He handled the media so well through loses lock outs gold club everything.

So NOW they realize how valuable he was to ny sports

And after the horribly blatant racism he faced in Boston, DC and even later in NY, he still doesn't get enough credit.

Oh, I get what you're talking about. I've seen those mea culpas through the years.

He was treated like shit in NY. Most underappreciated franchise player ever. There's so much talk about how Allen Iverson, also out of Georgetown, was treated by the media but the unfairness in Ewing's case was much, much worse.
 

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While it's true that racism colors everything, these owners are about making money. And winning makes money. I'd say it's more about his abilities than anything else. He's been in the league for decades, his abilities are well known by now. As are his shortcomings. The league is talent driven and head coaches need to be psychologists more than anything else. Assistant coaches really handle the X's and O's. Maybe he excels at that but doesn't have the temperament to be the head coach.
Well-known? I've never ever seen Ewing's temperament questioned outside of your post. Plenty of X's and O's guys like Eric Spoelstra have done well and Ewing actually was a player in an NBA locker room for a decade and a half with few to no problems.
 

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The militant in me is like how the fuck has Kurt Rambis had 3 head coaching jobs but Pat can't get one? Here's my take on why he hasn't been hired:

1. He's the posterchild of under achievement for the 90s.

He's the antithesis on the achievements of Jordan, Hakeem, and the beginning of the Spurs era. Every Jordan and Hakeem highlight reel shows him being embarrassed. That has been ingrained in all of the basketball world's psyche.

2. He's not a part of any legacy/coaching tree.

Look at the majority of coaches getting jobs. They are either NBA champions or have come up under the tutelage of a great coach. Teams want a visual body of work of what to expect and since Ewing has been an assistant on mediocre to decent teams (outside of the Magic run), he doesn't really resonant with GMs in a "win now" league. If Pat Riley gave him a spot, things might be different.

3. He represents an obsolete era of basketball.

Ewing was a highly skilled traditional big man from an era of highly skilled traditional big men. He played for teams that were extremely physical and played predominantly half court, play driven offense. He isn't considered an analytics driven coach, which trends opposite of what GMs are looking for in this copycat league.

On #1, I really don't think that's it. Tyrone Lue's big NBA moment was getting stepped over by Allen Iverson. Also, not succeeding and underachieving are not the same thing. Ewing and Barkley get shit for never winning a championship but people also understand when they played and largely attributed to being a part of the Jordan era.

On #2, Ewing is solidly under the Riley/Van Gundy tree. He played under Riley and JVG and has coached under JVG/SVG.

On #3, Ewing, as a coach, came into this league coaching Yao Ming and Dwight Howard. So the trends of the "Steph Curry era" of the last 2-3 years don't account for the bulk of the time that he hasn't gotten a shot. Also, it'a not like other people from the 90s have suddenly been dismissed as obsolete, so this really just seems to be an extension of the bias against centers.
 

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While it's true that racism colors everything, these owners are about making money. And winning makes money. I'd say it's more about his abilities than anything else. He's been in the league for decades, his abilities are well known by now. As are his shortcomings...Maybe he excels at that but doesn't have the temperament to be the head coach.

That's bullshit...Ewing has proven time and again that he can coach...so he doesn't have the "temperament" to be a head coach, but these guys who get fired and rehired over and over again have it?
C'mon man...

There are a few why he can't get a head coaching job, some of which had been discussed here:

- The perception of being "inarticulate". Notice how I said "perception". Patrick came from Jamaica, spoke patois, was quiet, and had some difficulty in high school because of the cultural differences between Jamaica and the U.S. This had nothing to do with intelligence, but some people (especially those people at schools who were mad that he picked Georgetown and that John Thompson Jr. got him) ran with that and started the BS that "Ewing can't read", etc. If he was so "inarticulate", why was he picked to be head of the NBA Players Association? Which leads to this...

- When he was head of the Players Association, that was around the time of the first lockout. When a deal was finally reached, many people thought that it was not a good deal for the players, which didn't help his rep at all. It also didn't help that he had David Falk as his agent, as stated above.

- I would also agree that he should "toot his own horn" here. Nothing wrong with stating your credentials (although it did backfire with Kareem, for many reasons). But Ewing is not one of those guys who has to tell people what he has done - he thinks that his resume should speak for itself (and it should - in fact, it would seem that the owners would like someone who is reserved and lets the players play.) Unfortunately, many owners don't want that...they want a hot coach who is out there as a face of the franchise almost as much as the players, even though that can backfire. These owners should know that Ewing is the type of person who works just as hard as a coach as he did as a player, but he also has humility...which is why he would be a great NBA head coach right now, not someday.
 

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Well-known? I've never ever seen Ewing's temperament questioned outside of your post. Plenty of X's and O's guys like Eric Spoelstra have done well and Ewing actually was a player in an NBA locker room for a decade and a half with few to no problems.

That's bullshit...Ewing has proven time and again that he can coach...so he doesn't have the "temperament" to be a head coach, but these guys who get fired and rehired over and over again have it?
C'mon man...

There are a few why he can't get a head coaching job, some of which had been discussed here:

- The perception of being "inarticulate". Notice how I said "perception". Patrick came from Jamaica, spoke patois, was quiet, and had some difficulty in high school because of the cultural differences between Jamaica and the U.S. This had nothing to do with intelligence, but some people (especially those people at schools who were mad that he picked Georgetown and that John Thompson Jr. got him) ran with that and started the BS that "Ewing can't read", etc. If he was so "inarticulate", why was he picked to be head of the NBA Players Association? Which leads to this...

- When he was head of the Players Association, that was around the time of the first lockout. When a deal was finally reached, many people thought that it was not a good deal for the players, which didn't help his rep at all. It also didn't help that he had David Falk as his agent, as stated above.

- I would also agree that he should "toot his own horn" here. Nothing wrong with stating your credentials (although it did backfire with Kareem, for many reasons). But Ewing is not one of those guys who has to tell people what he has done - he thinks that his resume should speak for itself (and it should - in fact, it would seem that the owners would like someone who is reserved and lets the players play.) Unfortunately, many owners don't want that...they want a hot coach who is out there as a face of the franchise almost as much as the players, even though that can backfire. These owners should know that Ewing is the type of person who works just as hard as a coach as he did as a player, but he also has humility...which is why he would be a great NBA head coach right now, not someday.

Unless you're in the league you don't really know do you? I stated my opinion which has more basis in fact than your speculation does. There have been coaches that don't speak particularly well and coaches that are large and intimidating. Ever heard of Bill Russell? Your points are nonsense. The owners want money. Money. Money. Money. And that comes from winning. They'd hire hitler if it meant wins, which equals revenue.
 

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It's hard to be an average sized black man and not be considered intimidating.

but over 7 foot makes CACs way to skittish
 

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On #1, I really don't think that's it. Tyrone Lue's big NBA moment was getting stepped over by Allen Iverson. Also, not succeeding and underachieving are not the same thing. Ewing and Barkley get shit for never winning a championship but people also understand when they played and largely attributed to being a part of the Jordan era.

On #2, Ewing is solidly under the Riley/Van Gundy tree. He played under Riley and JVG and has coached under JVG/SVG.

On #3, Ewing, as a coach, came into this league coaching Yao Ming and Dwight Howard. So the trends of the "Steph Curry era" of the last 2-3 years don't account for the bulk of the time that he hasn't gotten a shot. Also, it'a not like other people from the 90s have suddenly been dismissed as obsolete, so this really just seems to be an extension of the bias against centers.

What you're saying is real but I'm strictly speaking of perception. I believe if he came up coaching under Phil or Pop, he'd be able to overcome his obstacles more. Let me ask you this, if you were a GM, would you hire him?
 

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What you're saying is real but I'm strictly speaking of perception. I believe if he came up coaching under Phil or Pop, he'd be able to overcome his obstacles more. Let me ask you this, if you were a GM, would you hire him?

If I were a GM in the situations that had job openings over his 14 years of coaching, I'd have interviewed him in more than two of those many situations. (I think he has been interviewed with the Kings and Grizzlies this year, so that would put him at being interviewed for four of the hundred plus openings I estimate have occurred.)

I wonder how many failed coaches have been re-hired in those 14 years.

I probably would have hired him in some of those situations, certainly not all. It's a very broad question. But the man is not even being interviewed.
 

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Unless you're in the league you don't really know do you? I stated my opinion which has more basis in fact than your speculation does. There have been coaches that don't speak particularly well and coaches that are large and intimidating. Ever heard of Bill Russell? Your points are nonsense. The owners want money. Money. Money. Money. And that comes from winning. They'd hire hitler if it meant wins, which equals revenue.
'If you're claiming to be an NBA insider, say so. But you claimed there are well-known temperament issues with Patrick Ewing (while still saying this is just your opinion) and myself and the other guy who replied are saying, no, that is objectively not well-known.

As much as people bitch about entitled athletes and coaches having no power, I wouldn't think having a coach who can get into players faces would be a negative. Though I don't believe there is one reported instance of this ever happening under Coach Ewing.
 

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i think Mark Jackson should get another look.....he kind of built GSW
 
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