Will the current Israel war/genocide cost Biden/Harris the presidency in November?

Will backing Israel cost his reelection?

  • Yes. America won't vote for him because of this.

    Votes: 9 33.3%
  • No. Americans don't care.

    Votes: 14 51.9%
  • Other. State your reason below.

    Votes: 4 14.8%

  • Total voters
    27
"Yeah we killed 50k people,
But if you don't elect us, the other guy will kill 50.1k"
Not sure who you mean by "we" and "us". Still I ask you, do you think a trump administration will in terms of casualties be better for the palestinians, worse or the same as the biden admin?
 
Not sure who you mean by "we" and "us". Still I ask you, do you think a trump administration will in terms of casualties be better for the palestinians, worse or the same as the biden admin?
Genocide is still genocide under Biden and under Trump. We are dealing with White Supremacy so White Supremacy does not adhere to a political party.
 
Genocide is still genocide under Biden and under Trump. We are dealing with White Supremacy so White Supremacy does not adhere to a political party.
So what difference does Rashida Tlaib's constituents not supporting harris make? Will trump make things better for the palestinians and conversely, what are the odds he could make it worse for them? Lots less americans even care now.
 
So what difference does Rashida Tlaib's constituents not supporting harris make? Will trump make things better for the palestinians and conversely, what are the odds he could make it worse for them? Lots less americans even care now.
The difference? What are you talking about? It's about the moral issue of not supporting genocide and a vote for Harris would have been another vote for genocide for most of Tlaib's constituents.

As for Trump, like I told you, both parties support White Supremacy; thus, they both support genocide on both sides so your question is moot.
 
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Not sure who you mean by "we" and "us". Still I ask you, do you think a trump administration will in terms of casualties be better for the palestinians, worse or the same as the biden admin?
We and us obviously would be the Democrats in my example.

Who knows how the Trump presidency will handle it next year.
 
The difference? What are you talking about? It's about the moral issue of not supporting genocide and a vote for Harris would have been another vote for genocide for most of Tlaib's constituents.

As for Trump, like I told you, both parties support White Supremacy; thus, they both support genocide on both sides so your question is moot.
BP is attempting to invoke the tired and now played out "the lesser of two evils" tripe on the Michigan voters lol.

People obviously aren't playing that shit anymore. Especially with thier loved one's lives lol.
He's obtuse and out of touch.
 
The difference? What are you talking about? It's about the moral issue of not supporting genocide and a vote for Harris would have been another vote for genocide for most of Tlaib's constituents.

As for Trump, like I told you, both parties support White Supremacy; thus, they both support genocide on both sides so your question is moot.
Not trying to beef, but I'm just being pragmatic. So, I sincerely believe that like most issues we are forced to pick between the lesser of two evils. Even when things are at their worst, you can sometimes choose an option that may just make things just slightly better. Its easier to do when you have little risk of making things worse. Would you rather do nothing and just accept that there will be no improvement and most likely degrade?
 
Not trying to beef, but I'm just being pragmatic. So, I sincerely believe that like most issues we are forced to pick between the lesser of two evils. Even when things are at their worst, you can sometimes choose an option that may just make things just slightly better. Its easier to do when you have little risk of making things worse. Would you rather do nothing and just accept that there will be no improvement and most likely degrade?
Bro, have you read anything that I wrote? I said the Republicans and Democrats both support White Supremacy, thus, each of them support genocide. & you're talking about improvement? How can they improve on genocide? Their improvement is only More Genocide!
 
The difference? What are you talking about? It's about the moral issue of not supporting genocide and a vote for Harris would have been another vote for genocide for most of Tlaib's constituents.

As for Trump, like I told you, both parties support White Supremacy; thus, they both support genocide on both sides so your question is moot.
Can I have your opinion of how his administration will likely handle that conflict particularly in contrast to how biden's has? Is it not conceivable that harris could have further constrained israel's prosecution of the war and significantly reduced the rate of casualties? I also think trump could do that, I just don't think he will, and in fact believe he'll condone further subjugation of palestine. Do you remember when he moved the embassy? Like everything else, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Nope...not what sank em..Israel is white folks perceived friend/Palestinians/Arabs the perceived enemy.

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Can I have your opinion of how his administration will likely handle that conflict particularly in contrast to how biden's has? Is it not conceivable that harris could have further constrained israel's prosecution of the war and significantly reduced the rate of casualties? I also think trump could do that, I just don't think he will, and in fact believe he'll condone further subjugation of palestine. Do you remember when he moved the embassy? Like everything else, we'll just have to wait and see.
You are stuck in the binary matrix of the Democrats and Republicans. When you realize that there is only the matrix of genocide & that matrix is rooted in colonial settler White Supremacy, that's what we are dealing with.

Peep what you're even saying, you're talking about negotiating with racist colonial settlers who fully support the genocide, & that includes Israel and the United States. As Malcolm X used to say [I'm paraphrasing] "Will the knife be six includes through my back or will the knife be three inches through my back?" The knife of genocide is still in the back of the Palestinians and now that same knife is attempting to be placed in the back of the Lebanese people. Israel is not going to be stopped, & the United States knows this, because they are providing Israel weapons, providing them intelligence, and now the US is providing them boots on the ground.
 
You are stuck in the binary matrix of the Democrats and Republicans. When you realize that there is only the matrix of genocide & that matrix is rooted in colonial settler White Supremacy, that's what we are dealing with.

Peep what you're even saying, you're talking about negotiating with racist colonial settlers who fully support the genocide, & that includes Israel and the United States. As Malcolm X used to say [I'm paraphrasing] "Will the knife be six includes through my back or will the knife be three inches through my back?" The knife of genocide is still in the back of the Palestinians and now that same knife is attempting to be placed in the back of the Lebanese people. Israel is not going to be stopped, & the United States knows this, because they are providing Israel weapons, providing them intelligence, and now the US is providing them boots on the ground.
I think there may have been an opportunity to slow the carnage and save some lives. I guess we disagree on weather that's worthwhile if the war can't be stopped altogether. On the other hand, the middle east... not my hood, and arabs aint my clique. So in closing, they be aight. :dunno:
 
I think there may have been an opportunity to slow the carnage and save some lives. I guess we disagree on weather that's worthwhile if the war can't be stopped altogether. On the other hand, the middle east... not my hood, and arabs aint my clique. So in closing, they be aight. :dunno:
I can tell you do not read a word I said.
 
I read every word. We just disagree. The geopolitical balance of power is what it is. If they all can't be spared, I'd like to see more lives saved. Call it negotiation with and compromise with white devils or what ever you want. But I think the more children that live through it and avoid becoming orphans the better.
I can tell you do not read a word I said.
 
I read every word. We just disagree. The geopolitical balance of power is what it is. If they all can't be spared, I'd like to see more lives saved. Call it negotiation with and compromise with white devils or what ever you want. But I think the more children that live through it and avoid becoming orphans the better.
I never called anyone "white devils" and it's not about the "geopolitical balance of power." Also, you said "
If they all can't be spared, I'd like to see more lives saved.
Just say loudly what you're really saying quietly, you support racist White Settler Genocide of the Palestinian people. That's it. That's who I am talking to right now, someone who supports the White Supremacist Colonial Project to dispossess the Palestinians of their land and who wants to murder the Palestinians in droves to accomplish that task. Just say it. Right now, you're hiding behind language.

& yes, we do disagree, I'm against genocide and you're for genocide.
 
... support racist White Settler Genocide of the Palestinian people.
You can't put those words in my mouth. If I believed that I'd say it, but I don't, and never will. I'm hiding nothing. As simply as I can say it, I would like to see more people live through this conflict. You seem to be making an all or nothing argument and you're entitled to that opinion. I was only wrong to continue on with you beyond this point, "the middle east... not my hood, and arabs aint my clique. So in closing, they be aight." :p
 
You can't put those words in my mouth. If I believed that I'd say it, but I don't, and never will. I'm hiding nothing. As simply as I can say it, I would like to see more people live through this conflict. You seem to be making an all or nothing argument and you're entitled to that opinion. I was only wrong to continue on with you beyond this point, "the middle east... not my hood, and arabs aint my clique. So in closing, they be aight." :p
Again, you're hiding behind language; you're trying to seem impartial and that you don't care, however we've been going back and forth for more than one hour so you care. & then you say, "they be aight" with a smiling emoji with it's tongue out, that's someone who supports genocide. Conversely, someone who is against genocide wouldn't even use a flippant smiling emoji paired with a "
and arabs aint my clique. So in closing, they be aight.
So your whole demeanor and attitude shows me that you're someone who supports genocide, you don't have to say it; I can see it. It's obvious and apparent. There is a genocide happening and you said "they be aight," really?
 
Again, you're hiding behind language; you're trying to seem impartial and that you don't care, however we've been going back and forth for more than one hour so you care. & then you say, "they be aight" with a smiling emoji with it's tongue out, that's someone who supports genocide. Conversely, someone who is against genocide wouldn't even use a flippant smiling emoji paired with a "

So your whole demeanor and attitude shows me that you're someone who supports genocide, you don't have to say it; I can see it. It's obvious and apparent. There is a genocide happening and you said "they be aight," really?
I said "they be aight" because trump is a better option to help their cause, or so they seem to think. I do care. However there's nothing I can do except promote ideas and leadership that I believe will save more lives. So I respectfully disagree with you, but we'll see. As-salamu alaykum.
 
I said "they be aight" because trump is a better option to help their cause, or so they seem to think. I do care. However there's nothing I can do except promote ideas and leadership that I believe will save more lives. So I respectfully disagree with you, but we'll see. As-salamu alaykum.
Keep moving those goalposts, bruh.
 

Trump will give Israel ‘blank check’ which may mean all-out war with Iran, says ex-CIA chief

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Donald Trump will as president give Benjamin Netanyahu a “blank check” in the Middle East, possibly opening the way for all-out war between Israel and Iran, the former CIA director and US defense secretary Leon Panetta predicted.

“With regards to the Middle East, I think he’s basically going to give Netanyahu a blank check,” Panetta said of Trump, who won the presidential election this week and will take office again in January.

“‘Whatever you do, whatever you want to do, whoever you want to go after, you have my blessing.’ I mean, he basically said that [before the election].”
 
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