2015-2016 NBA playoff edition: Finals - Cavs vs Warriors - Cavs win 4-3

Who's you going with Cavs or Warriors!!!


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KingTaharqa

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So the Warriors who were telling Bron to man up when he got his nuts grabbed cryin bout injuries?

Tough guy Klay said that shit when his Jon B. lookin ass cried about Mozgov's screen in Game 3.
 

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Media trying to go in on Barnes just to get the heat off of Love lmaoo

i really honestly won't really be discussing sports on here much after this series...

cause this social media really exposes people inner most insecurities and thought processes...

damn if social media existed back in the day?

The first 6 years of Jordan's career he would have quit and played baseball.

Imagine if there was NO LEBRON? EVER!

but twitter snap chat facebook etc existed in the 70/80s/90s????

when Orlando beat Jordan when he came back?

dude would have retired at the pres conference

Horace Grant would have been compared to James f*cking Worthy!

Dominique would have been KILLED!!! A FAILURE!

Oscar Robertson would have been a a ball hog...

Imagine Karl Malone and Stockton if they had to play with social media!?!?!

Choking Dogs!

Clyde Drexeler would have been on antidepressants!
The Brad Daughtry Cleveland Cavs? remember THEY were the big 3 back then :lol:

Hell the Boston Big 3 would be crucified!

Or when the Knicks signed Chris Childs Allan Houston and them?

And CONTINUED to lose?

That's why just can't take none of dudes seriously

they will find EVERY irrational excuse in the book to hate Lebron Curry Westbrook etc...

regardless of the numbers the wins the championships...

I just can't believe it...

Even if the Cavs WIN they gonna say its cause Drammond got suspended

COMPLETELY FORGETTING he was playing when they got beat by 30.

Kyrie who most have SHITTED on will suddenly be the MVP of the series

If the Dubs win?

They STILL aint as good as those Bulls because they lost too many games in the playoffs

The won WITHOUT Curry...who played just OK...

Its like you just can't win with these people and it proves Bron was right...



I could have heard Jordan, Jim Brown, Jabbar, Russel, Barkley, Ali, Bonds, Pete Rose, Big Papi, Reggie Jackson, Mayweather, Cam Newton and host of other athletes saying the same damn thing

and they would be RIGHT.
 

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i really honestly won't really be discussing sports on here much after this series...

cause this social media really exposes people inner most insecurities and thought processes...

damn if social media existed back in the day?

The first 6 years of Jordan's career he would have quit and played baseball.

Imagine if there was NO LEBRON? EVER!

but twitter snap chat facebook etc existed in the 70/80s/90s????

when Orlando beat Jordan when he came back?

dude would have retired at the pres conference

Horace Grant would have been compared to James f*cking Worthy!

Dominique would have been KILLED!!! A FAILURE!

Oscar Robertson would have been a a ball hog...

Imagine Karl Malone and Stockton if they had to play with social media!?!?!

Choking Dogs!

Clyde Drexeler would have been on antidepressants!
The Brad Daughtry Cleveland Cavs? remember THEY were the big 3 back then :lol:

Hell the Boston Big 3 would be crucified!

Or when the Knicks signed Chris Childs Allan Houston and them?

And CONTINUED to lose?

That's why just can't take none of dudes seriously

they will find EVERY irrational excuse in the book to hate Lebron Curry Westbrook etc...

regardless of the numbers the wins the championships...

I just can't believe it...

Even if the Cavs WIN they gonna say its cause Drammond got suspended

COMPLETELY FORGETTING he was playing when they got beat by 30.

Kyrie who most have SHITTED on will suddenly be the MVP of the series

If the Dubs win?

They STILL aint as good as those Bulls because they lost too many games in the playoffs

The won WITHOUT Curry...who played just OK...

Its like you just can't win with these people and it proves Bron was right...



I could have heard Jordan, Jim Brown, Jabbar, Russel, Barkley, Ali, Bonds, Pete Rose, Big Papi, Reggie Jackson, Mayweather, Cam Newton and host of other athletes saying the same damn thing

and they would be RIGHT.




Some good shit right here bro
 

Mask

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Mannnn I didn't know all this went on after game 4...


So the Warriors who were telling Bron to man up when he got his nuts grabbed cryin bout injuries?

Tough guy Klay said that shit when his Jon B. lookin ass cried about Mozgov's screen in Game 3.







Warriors accuse Cavs of squealing; Cavs respond that they couldn't care less what the Warriors have to say
OAKLAND, Calif. – The sentiment exuding from the Golden State Warriors on Sunday afternoon was that they're essentially playing against the Cleveland Snitching Cavaliers.

The NBA suspended Draymond Green for Monday's Game 5 of the NBA Finals after assessing him a flagrant foul that put him over the limit and into a suspension. The Warriors claim the Cavaliers whined to make that happen.

And to that, one member of the Cavaliers issued a candid response.

"My honest opinion? I don't give a [bleep] what they say," Cavs forward Channing Frye told cleveland.com adamantly. "I give no [bleeps] what they say, whatsoever. Like, zero. It's like, 'OK.' I don't care. I honestly don't care about anything they say.

"The only thing I'm focused on is what my teammates think, what our fans think and what my family thinks. Other than that, I've got one job and that's to win this next game. They can talk, they can say what they want, they can complain, they can scream, they can cry. We've got a job to do. We're not going to be distracted by all that."

Warriors sharpshooter Klay Thompson admitted he was surprised when he heard LeBron James after Game 4 publicly complaining to the media about Green's trash-talking antics.

"I'm just kind of shocked some guys take it so personal," he said. "It's like, I mean, you know, it's a man's league and I've heard a lot of bad things on that court, but at the end of the day it stays on the court. But obviously people have feelings, and people's feelings get hurt even if they're called a bad word. I guess his feelings just got hurt."

Cavs coach Tyronn Lue was fined $25,000 for his postgame remarks toward the officials when he said, "He (LeBron) never gets calls."

Warriors center Andrew Bogut said Lue and James intentionally took to the podium that evening with a clear plan of pouring gasoline onto an already-hot Draymond Green suspension soapbox.

"You knew after Game 4 it was going to be very likely [Draymond gets suspended] with all the stuff coming out from their end," Bogut said. "That's all their coaches and their manager have to do, try and get him out."

The play that generated discussion around the association occurred in the closing minutes of Game 4 when Green and James got into a mini scuffle. James flung his arm and Green fell to the ground. The four-time MVP then stepped over Green, to which the Warriors' forward hit James in the groin while getting up.

A double foul was called during the game, but on Sunday the league upgraded the penalties. Green was assessed a Flagrant 1, and James was hit with a technical. That took Green over the Flagrant points limit, and it carried an automatic one-game suspension.

"I think it's a double-T [technical] at best," Bogut told cleveland.com of that incident. "I think LeBron could have been called for four separate fouls on that play. He threw him, stood over him and fouled him again under the basket."

Bogut also said with Green unavailable, the pressure is now on the Cavaliers to send the series back to Cleveland.

"That's almost the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life," Frye said to cleveland.com "We've got to win one game or we're going to lose. So, we're in a one-game series."

J.R. Smith concurs with his teammate.

"All the pressure has been on us," Smith said to cleveland.com. "We're the ones that's been down in the series. What are they talking about? They act like we're up."

If James and Lue truly had an objective of getting the league to take action on Green, mission accomplished. Green has no one to blame but himself. He's the only person responsible for accumulating all those technicals and flagrants this postseason. He took the bait and if it meant a little squealing to add some pressure, it was well worth it for Cleveland.

But now it's really up to the Cavaliers to deliver. Green is the Warriors' best playmaker, rebounder and all-around defender along with being their vocal, emotional leader. Everything runs through him, similar to James' role.

Cleveland's off-the-court "plan" worked out, but now it's time to execute on the court.
 

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SC on the Road: LeBron, Cavs trying to boost Love's spirits
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CLEVELAND -- Annoyed with a question recently, LeBron Jamesdisavowed the experiences of his 13-year NBA career that includes seven trips to the Finals.

"I don't really think about past experiences too much," James said dismissively. "This moment is what it is today."

With apologies to James, this was a canard.

James keeps not only relevant files of his career in his memory banks for use at a moment's notice, but he actively seeks out others' past moments for use when needed. And he went to one earlier this week when he and Kyrie Irving combined for 82 points andKevin Love ended up with two points and three rebounds with just five shots in the Cavaliers' Game 5 victory in Oakland.

In conversations with teammates, James invoked Chris Bosh from Game 7 of the 2013 Finals. James and theMiami Heat won that game and the championship over the San Antonio Spurs. Bosh only took five shots in that game and missed them all, going scoreless. But his spacing of the floor helped James and Dwyane Wadecombine for 60 points.

It's part of what seems to be a team-wide effort leading into Game 6 to keep Love's spirits up. That includes coach Tyronn Lue's plan to start Love no matter what lineup the Golden State Warriors deploy in the wake of losing injured Andrew Bogut for the series.

Love's teammates and Lue found themselves defending their star power forward and his lack of tangible production.

"It's hard enough to win a game in a regular season and then to win a game in the NBA Finals, and guys are focused on Kevin not scoring the basketball," Lue said. "He did a lot of great things. Our rebounding was down because he's on the perimeter. He's guarding perimeter guys. They play five smalls, so he's not going to be able to rebound the ball as well as if he's playing inside against a bigger guy."

These are true sentiments, some of the same things were said about Bosh when his production varied in big playoff games as he played alongside two ball-dominant stars. It's hard for Love to have much of an impact when he gets 17 touches, as he did in Game 5, and James and Irving combine for 128 of them.

When Love did touch the ball, things didn't go well. The Cavs shot 4-of-11 overall with five turnovers on plays in which Love touched the ball, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

J.R. Smith said. "If he needs to be a decoy, he's willing to do that."

It seems likely the Cavs are going to need more from Love in what's left in the series to have a chance. WithDraymond Green coming off suspension and having his time at the center position, Love is facing an uphill task.

"We definitely need Kev to play better," James said. "We want him to play better, but we don't want to add no more stress on him or added pressure. We just want him to go out and play, just let it hang out."
 

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Man you niggas ain't gonna believe this shit but last year game 6 was today and guess who was the refs? Scott fuckin Foster and Mark Davis :lol:


Man get the fuck outta here


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Scott Foster to referee Game 6 of NBA Finals; road team has won his last 11 games
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By Brett Pollakoff
Jun 16, 2015


When previewing Game 6 of the NBA Finals, the biggest question for the Cavaliers is whether or not LeBron James will get any help on the offensive end of the floor in terms of production from his teammates.

If recent statistics are to be believed, he certainly won’t be getting any from the officials.

Tonight’s crew of referees will consist ofScott Foster, Marc Davis and Zach Zarba. And when Foster’s been in the house during these playoffs, it’s meant that the home team was in for an unfavorable result.

Tim Kawakami of the Mercury News:

And yes, road teams are 11-1 in Foster-called games during these playoffs, including CLE over GSW in Game 2 at Oracle.

Jason Lloyd of the Akron Beacon Journal:

Bad news: Scott Foster crew chief tonight. Road team has won his last 11 games. #Cavs have benefited many times during streak; not tonight

It is worth noting that the Cavaliers won Game 2 at Oracle arena the last time Foster’s crew was on the floor — and the league said that four calls were missed in overtime when releasing its Last Two Minute report the very next day.

You can take a deeper dive into the statistics on Foster in the playoffs if you wish, but it’s probably a waste of time. Despite the Game 2 gaffes, this is merely a coincidental trend (albeit a fairly strong one), and I don’t believe that the officials intentionally do anything to favor one team or the other.

But as Game 6 unfolds, it’s something which, for fans of both teams, will remain interesting to watch.
 

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The Warriors have a Scott Foster problem

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The Warriors have a Scott Foster problem
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Everyone on r/nba is now convinced that the league is rigged in favor of the Warriors. From my perspective (and many Warriors fans), though, it feels like if anything the Warriors are disadvantaged by calls more often than not. But by and large I haven’t had problems with how the games are officiated, with one exception. Scott Foster. It always feels like we’re up against more than just the other team when he’s on the court. Now, he’s widely regarded as one of the worst refs in the league, so it’s possible that he gives terrible calls both ways and as a Warriors fan I just notice the ones that disadvantage us. To test this, I looked at all the games he’s officiated for us in the playoffs over the last few years. Here are the results:

Playoff games over the last two seasons: 34

Playoff games with Scott Foster: 8

Record without Scott Foster: 21-5

Record with Scott Foster: 4-4

Point differential without Scott Foster: +9.5

Point differential with Scott Foster: +2

Game logs with Scott Foster:

W 123-119 OT, game 3 NOP (Curry hits the clutch buzzer beater to go to OT, but doesn’t get the call for the foul on the shot.)

L 90-97, game 2 MEM

W 115-80, game 3 HOU

L 93-95 OT, game 2 CLE

W 105-97, game 6 CLE

L 96-97, game 3 HOU

W 132-125 OT, game 4 POR (Shaun Livingston gets kicked out of a game for the first time in his career with two incredibly quick technicals by Foster.)

L 105-133, game 3 OKC

In the last two playoffs, when the Warriors have been the best team in the league, 4 of their 9 losses have come in Scott Foster games. They have won 81% of the games he is not officiating, but only 50% of the games he does.


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Man get the fuck outta here


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Scott Foster to referee Game 6 of NBA Finals; road team has won his last 11 games
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By Brett Pollakoff
Jun 16, 2015


When previewing Game 6 of the NBA Finals, the biggest question for the Cavaliers is whether or not LeBron James will get any help on the offensive end of the floor in terms of production from his teammates.

If recent statistics are to be believed, he certainly won’t be getting any from the officials.

Tonight’s crew of referees will consist ofScott Foster, Marc Davis and Zach Zarba. And when Foster’s been in the house during these playoffs, it’s meant that the home team was in for an unfavorable result.

Tim Kawakami of the Mercury News:

And yes, road teams are 11-1 in Foster-called games during these playoffs, including CLE over GSW in Game 2 at Oracle.

Jason Lloyd of the Akron Beacon Journal:

Bad news: Scott Foster crew chief tonight. Road team has won his last 11 games. #Cavs have benefited many times during streak; not tonight

It is worth noting that the Cavaliers won Game 2 at Oracle arena the last time Foster’s crew was on the floor — and the league said that four calls were missed in overtime when releasing its Last Two Minute report the very next day.

You can take a deeper dive into the statistics on Foster in the playoffs if you wish, but it’s probably a waste of time. Despite the Game 2 gaffes, this is merely a coincidental trend (albeit a fairly strong one), and I don’t believe that the officials intentionally do anything to favor one team or the other.

But as Game 6 unfolds, it’s something which, for fans of both teams, will remain interesting to watch.

:lol:

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After Sting of Suspension, Draymond Green Has Something to Prove in Game 6
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NBAchampionship if he'd been there.

Green is an overachiever as a result of his utter certainty that he matters.

Of all the ways Kobe Bryant must be remembered, that's the one we can and should all try to adopt: Be the hero of your own story.

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Green has the same mindset with a different style of game, which is why Bryant developed a respect for Green so quickly, even reaching out via text in the Western Conference Finals. The newly retired Bryant sensed from afar Green's moment of crisis, which Green described as "the first time in my life I didn't respond to critics." Green's Golden State Warriors had fallen into a 3-1 series hole even after Green avoided suspension for his kick to Steven Adams' groin.

Now Green is trying to bounce back Thursday after he didn't avoid suspension for his shot to LeBron James' groin, which gave him one too many flagrant fouls in the playoffs and forced him to miss Golden State's Game 5 NBA Finals loss.

Green apologized to his teammates and told them it was "the toughest thing" for him to sit through as an athlete.

The funny thing is that his absence made him the hero of the story anyway—at least aside from James and Kyrie Irving—leading many to appreciate all that Green does for the Warriors.

Yet in this case, Green didn't see it that way.

He had failed to be his teammates' hero, and they're the people he most wants to make proud.

"I learned a lot—as a basketball player, as a man, just things that you have to do," Green said Wednesday. "You can't put yourself in certain positions. One thing that I've already been kind of teaching myself and trying to learn how to do is control my emotions. So really just knowing the position that you're in and adjusting to those positions.



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"I just have to make sure that I'm well-composed when those situations come about, that I control my emotions, that I channel that energy and use it in a positive way to help my team and not in a way to where I may feel like it helps me as a person, me as a man—but hurts my teammates."

This might not be the sort of thing Green can just immediately make right.

The Cleveland Cavaliers have momentum and confidence that they can beat Golden State as long as they're attacking and producing (they are 14-0 in these playoffs when they score at least 100 points).

Given the game is in Cleveland, it's going to be a difficult task for Green to control his fire. Boos get him revving even more than normal, he admits, and another flagrant foul would get him suspended for a potential Game 7 Sunday. Further complicating matters is that after the season-ending injury to Andrew Bogut, Green will have to play big more than usual, putting him in direct opposition to Cleveland's drives to the rim.

The challenge to keep his cool on offense is just as crucial. It's not a natural translation for him to turn pulsating energy into calm jump-shooting, but he's going to have to do that, considering how often Cleveland is going to leave him unguarded to tilt toward Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson.

For all the what-ifs, we do know for sure that Green has every expectation he will come through, and his teammates do as well.

That's why Curry looked at the suspension from the perspective of lionizing Green, who watched Game 5 on TV from an Oakland Coliseum suite during an Athletics baseball game with plans to head next door to Oracle Arena for a trophy presentation and champagne celebration.

"It would have been the ultimate video montage to see him running across from the baseball stadium with a camera following him into Oracle Arena," Curry said. "That was like the dream celebration. But it didn't happen, so missed opportunity there."

Curry is well aware what an attention hog Green has become. Green's doing exclusive material for this outlet here and that outlet there. He broke the news of Bryant's text to him in his own Uninterrupted video from the Oklahoma City visiting locker room.



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Would it really surprise you if Green shows up sometime in the offseason at Radio City Music Hall in New York with the Rockettes, putting a ridiculous and self-celebrating spin on the whole controversy over his oft-kicking legs?

Green is really milking his time in the spotlight, and he wouldn't be the first to overdo it to the point of distraction from his real job. But Green's style is to max out every experience; that's part of being the hero in every story.

The Warriors appreciate the approach, because it usually comes with a reminder to everyone around him to not take the moment for granted.

"I've always said," Curry added, "Draymond is the spirit of what we do."

Even though he's in a classic happy-to-be-there situation being off suspension for Game 6, Green's always looking for a log to throw on the fire for himself and the team. With the chance to improve upon last year's six-game Finals run and win it in five gone, Green has grabbed hold of a new goal, one that frankly involves sticking it more deeply to James and the other side.

"We've got an opportunity to do something that I don't know if it's ever been done, where someone—maybe it has with the Lakers and Celts and all those guys—wins a championship on someone else's floor two years in a row," Green said. "We've got that opportunity. It's a fun one."

The boldness is so constant and the mouth so loud that it can be too much to take, except you see in Green's love for the team why the team loves him so.

He isn't a know-it-all. He listens to reason. He's earnest about self-improvement.

And he's even more committed to improving the group.



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Those in this Warriors organization know he touches the team's essence as much as its defensive rotations.

It's why team owners Joe Lacob and Peter Guber were texting him their full support and general manager Bob Myers chose to watch Game 5 with Green in the suite rather than join everyone next door.

Green testified his deep appreciation for Myers' support, but let's not misunderstand which comes first in these kinds of things:

People are there for you because they care about you…but that's because you have given them reason to care about you.

Bryant had nothing whatsoever to gain by sending Green that message.

He just knows it feels right to him when Green is the hero of his own story.

"I got a text from Kobe, and he said, ‘If making history was easy, why bother?'" Green said three weeks back, just before the Warriors stormed back to win the final three games from the Thunder. "It's 100 percent right. It ain't easy. It's a struggle.

"I gotta make sure it builds character. And we gotta make sure it builds character."
 

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With Golden State going with the death Line up.

If Lue starts Love and plays his extended minutes with Love and Kyrie on the court this can get ugly for the Cavs.
 
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