2025 Chicago Bears Off Season Thread

[Pworld297]

Nobody had a conversation with Belichick last season either other than the Falcons. What would a conversation with Belichick do if chances are that you aren't going to hire him? Considering that Belichick would want control beyond just being the coach he wasn't likely to be hired. He took the UNC job and brought his boy Michael Lombardi with him there to be the GM. Lombardi the guy who called the Montez Sweat trade idiotic yet during his career traded Randy Moss to the Patriots for a 4th round pick.
Harbaugh may have been interested and apparently he and Warren have a sorted history. But he's not taking the Bears job if the Chargers job is also his to take.
As for ownership the team could use better owners but that can be said about every team in Chicago. And we'd have to see if Bezos would be a good owner who would be willing to spend money but also stay out of the way.
At the end of the day we're going to have our disagreements but we all want to see the team become a legit contender like they were for years in the 80's and I don't think that any of us give 2 fucks how they do it as long as they do it.

We can agree to disagree with the Harbaugh stuff and at this point it doesn't even matter. With Belichick all I was saying was at least have a conversation, you don't have to hire him but that's also mute at this point as well. I can't take this constant losing, it's beyond ridiculous for the founding franchise to be this bad at football. If they mess this up with Caleb, we are doomed forever.. Smh lol! The fact is all Chicago sports teams suck right now, the Cubs and Sox haven't done anything all. The Bulls are stuck in basketball hell smh! The Bears have to get this coaching hire right.

 

[Madrox]

 

[Madrox]

 

[Madrox]

 

[Complex]

Kiran Amegadjie is a healthy scratch

 

[Madrox]

 

[Complex]

Poles is being exposed now that there is no Flus and Waldron to take the heat.

I said when it happen, we weren't good or deep enough to draft a project in the third and a punter in the fourth

and now he will be taking up a roster spot next year like Velus

 

[Complex]

I have to disagree with you my friend, according to several reports, Harbaugh was definitely interested in the Bears but Kevin Warren axed it. Last offseason Dave Kaplan said his sources told him Harbaugh was interested in the Bears job. The Bears never made any attempt to contact Harbaugh at all because they were all in on Eberflus. Hell I don't think they reached out to any other coach either. They are an inept organization! I heard Bezos was interested in buying the team, I wish to gawd they would sell lol.

They are also reports that Belichick was interested before he took the NC job. I mean even if you are not going to hiring him, I'd still have a conversation with him and the Bears never did.

Man you contact them and interview them to pick their brains if anything.

Harbaugh has turned around every program he's been at.

Belichick has been watching football the whole year and his resume speaks for itself.

 

[Complex]

Like I keep saying, you hear Jalen Carters name constantly during games

Poles....

He preferred the character of Claypool and Davis

 

[c_commander]

Belichick decided to take a job that was offered to him now rather than wait and see how the NFL process went. He apparently felt that he'd get a job and what he wanted so he took the opportunity that came up. It may be smart to pick his brain but he wanted a job not a session of giving a team access to his thoughts.

 

[c_commander]

Like I keep saying, you hear Jalen Carters name constantly during games

Poles....

He preferred the character of Claypool and Davis

It wasn't an either/or with them and Carter. Again when he was drafted everyone said that Carter went to the best place for him with the case and the issues with his work ethic brought by his coaches and him not doing well at his pro day. He went to Philly where he had a bunch of friends and old teammates and an established vet in Fletcher Cox who played the same position. Who did the Bears have to fill that role?
And based upon the failure to get the likes of Claypool and Davis in line the culture in Chicago couldn't do that. So you're halfway supporting the sentiment that Carter shouldn't have come here. Davis may have been an issue in Tennessee but he played, he started and he played well. Claypool also played started and had periods of playing well in the Steelers system with Tomlin. Neither did any of that with the Bears.

 

[Complex]

It wasn't an either/or with them and Carter. Again when he was drafted everyone said that Carter went to the best place for him with the case and the issues with his work ethic brought by his coaches and him not doing well at his pro day. He went to Philly where he had a bunch of friends and old teammates and an established vet in Fletcher Cox who played the same position. Who did the Bears have to fill that role?
And based upon the failure to get the likes of Claypool and Davis in line the culture in Chicago couldn't do that. So you're halfway supporting the sentiment that Carter shouldn't have come here. Davis may have been an issue in Tennessee but he played, he started and he played well. Claypool also played started and had periods of playing well in the Steelers system with Tomlin. Neither did any of that with the Bears.

Why do you think Pittsburgh wanted to get rid of a promising receiver on a rookie deal when they needed receivers? They did the same with Diontae Johnson.

and Poles knew Davis was lazy.

 

[c_commander]

Why do you think Pittsburgh wanted to get rid of a promising receiver on a rookie deal when they needed receivers? They did the same with Diontae Johnson.

and Poles knew Davis was lazy.

And Bears culture didn't fix any of those issues which is exactly what I said. So to think that Bears culture would keep a young talented guy like Carter in line at the time right when he gets a bag for millions of dollars is more optimistic than you seem to be about anything else. And the team didn't even have Montez at the time either.
Where did I say that Claypool was some great guy that Pittsburgh was wrong to get rid of? I said that he had moments of productivity there inside of that team's culture that he never had in Chicago. Where was I wrong about that?

 

[Complex]

And Bears culture didn't fix any of those issues which is exactly what I said. So to think that Bears culture would keep a young talented guy like Carter in line at the time right when he gets a bag for millions of dollars is more optimistic than you seem to be about anything else. And the team didn't even have Montez at the time either.
Where did I say that Claypool was some great guy that Pittsburgh was wrong to get rid of? I said that he had moments of productivity there inside of that team's culture that he never had in Chicago. Where was I wrong about that?

Are you related to Poles?

 

[Complex]

Braxton Jones out and our third round pick a healthy scratch just in case

 

[Complex]

Is this Ben Johnson's interview?

 

[cheyisrameyah]

Is this Ben Johnson's interview?

If it is, he's doing a good job. Have to think that the 4th down attempts are all on Campbell.

 

[darth frosty]

 

[cnc]

With even an average line it’s crazy to think how Caleb could thrive. He’s looked poised beyond being a rookie all game.

 

[cheyisrameyah]

The interior OL needs some serious help. Aaron Glenn is calling a good game. He should get some interviews this off season as well.

 

[c_commander]

Are you related to Poles?

Nope but what's your point? Did you expect Bears culture to keep Jalen Carter in line if it couldn't keep those other 2 people who you keep bringing up in line?
It's a yes or no answer and you keep avoiding answering that question.
They could fire Poles tomorrow and I'll be fine but you'll still be bringing up Jalen Carter without answering that basic question.

 

[Pack Rat]

Our D got worse....I think the Lions scored the first 5 times....and we gave the ball back to them twice...(Rome)

We are not that far away from being a playoff team.......we got money...good draft pics coming and a new coaching staff....

We need to clean up the penalties that kills drives....and get Swift some help. We got another ass whoppin coming Thursday sooooo Bear Down!!!

 

[Madrox]

With even an average line it’s crazy to think how Caleb could thrive. He’s looked poised beyond being a rookie all game.

Looking forward to a revamped running game too

 

[Complex]

Nope but what's your point? Did you expect Bears culture to keep Jalen Carter in line if it couldn't keep those other 2 people who you keep bringing up in line?
It's a yes or no answer and you keep avoiding answering that question.
They could fire Poles tomorrow and I'll be fine but you'll still be bringing up Jalen Carter without answering that basic question.

My point is we're about to go 4-13

Who's fault is it?

Jalen Carter wasn't a problem, he drag raced with friends. That's not a locker room problem or laziness. That's a youth problem.

 

[TruDat]

Poles is being exposed now that there is no Flus and Waldron to take the heat.

I said when it happen, we weren't good or deep enough to draft a project in the third and a punter in the fourth

and now he will be taking up a roster spot next year like Velus

My point is we're about to go 4-13

Who's fault is it?

Jalen Carter wasn't a problem, he drag raced with friends. That's not a locker room problem or laziness. That's a youth problem.

Bruh, I agree with you.
I believe Poles should be in the hot seat.
This is the team he assembled
In his 3rd year, the BEARS record will be 14 wins - 37 losses,
if they lose the rest of the games this season.

I like Poles but I believe he should be fired.

 

[c_commander]

My point is we're about to go 4-13

Who's fault is it?

Jalen Carter wasn't a problem, he drag raced with friends. That's not a locker room problem or laziness. That's a youth problem.

And unlike the last time we fired the GM we'll have a Top pick which we didn't have last time since it had been traded, cap room which we didn't have last time and a decent roster that's capable of a quick turnaround to success and attracting a top coaching candidate which we didn't have last time.
As for Carter he also showed up to his pro day out of shape and couldn't finish it. He also had bad reports from his college coaches in regards to his work ethic which goes beyond a drag racing situation.
So with him it was more than simply than that 1 incident which is why he dropped as far as he did

When it comes to defensive tackle Jalen Carter, the word making the rounds before the draft was that the Georgia coaches did not have nice things to say. (We specifically decided not to mention any of that until after he was picked, so as not to participate in the pre-draft effort to get guys to fall.)

Ian Rapoport of NFL Media hinted at that last night after Carter became the ninth overall pick in the draft. We’ve heard it more bluntly and strongly. Members of the Georgia coaching staff are not Jalen Carter fans, and they weren’t bashful about saying so.

Jalen Carter overcame not-great feedback from Georgia coaches to stay in top 10

College coaches who are asked about their former players often face a dilemma.

www.nbcsports.com

Multiple Georgia coaches declined to go to bat for Carter during the pre-draft process, according to sources familiar with the conversations, in part because they had grown disenchanted with his practice habits and attitude. His behavior as a teammate came into question as well, notably after he struck then-Georgia linebacker Quay Walker in the face during a fall practice in 2020. It was described by sources familiar with the pre-draft process as a "knockout punch."

His practice habits weren't as universally admired. Some Georgia coaches, according to sources familiar with the pre-draft process, relayed that Carter didn't always go hard, had an abrasive demeanor at times and often played by his own set of rules -- behavior that went largely unchecked in the new college world of the transfer portal and NIL, where opportunities abound for star players elsewhere if they become unhappy.

Described by teammates, coaches and team employees as quiet and guarded, Carter can be a challenge to get a read on, especially as he adapts to a new environment. That task has been made easier with a group of former Georgia players known as the Philly Dawgs: Davis, Dean, Smith and cornerback Kelee Ringo.

Georgia's coaching staff, sources said, felt Carter was a different person when around Davis, who has remained a strong influence to this point on the pro level.
Other veterans, meanwhile, have also been assisting Carter. Graham was one of the first people to approach Carter when he came into the building and was quick to show him the ropes. And Cox has been a constant in his ear.

"Fletch is a very good guy," Carter said. "He talks to me every day, calls me. Even when we were [on break] he was calling me every day, checking on my weight. He's been doing that ever since."

Inside the Philadelphia Eagles' decision to draft Jalen Carter

The Eagles knew selecting Carter out of Georgia came with risk, but they also believed he could be a generational talent.

www.espn.com

 

[Complex]

As for Carter he also showed up to his pro day out of shape and couldn't finish it. He also had bad reports from his college coaches in regards to his work ethic which goes beyond a drag racing situation.
So with him it was more than simply than that 1 incident which is why he dropped as far as he did

Jalen Carter overcame not-great feedback from Georgia coaches to stay in top 10

College coaches who are asked about their former players often face a dilemma.

www.nbcsports.com

Inside the Philadelphia Eagles' decision to draft Jalen Carter

The Eagles knew selecting Carter out of Georgia came with risk, but they also believed he could be a generational talent.

www.espn.com

and now he's showing he's a generational talent

It's your job as a GM to do the due diligence. Poles met with him multiple times.

He wasn't worth the risk, but Poles is taking projects in the third, fifth and a punter in the fourth was cool....

That's still on the GM, so I'm not sure what your argument is. It's what separates good teams from bad ones, and bad front offices from good ones. We shouldn't have taken him, because our culture, even though that comes from the top down....

All of that is on Poles.

 

[c_commander]

and now he's showing he's a generational talent

It's your job as a GM to do the due diligence. Poles met with him multiple times.

He wasn't worth the risk, but Poles is taking projects in the third, fifth and a punter in the fourth was cool....

That's still on the GM, so I'm not sure what your argument is. It's what separates good teams from bad ones, and bad front offices from good ones. We shouldn't have taken him, because our culture, even though that comes from the top down....

All of that is on Poles.

And if the Bears took him with the 9th pick and it didn't work out you'd be in here complaining about how could we use a high pick on Carter when his college coaches said that he was lazy. You want to have it both ways.

 

[Complex]

And if the Bears took him with the 9th pick and it didn't work out you'd be in here complaining about how could we use a high pick on Carter when his college coaches said that he was lazy. You want to have it both ways.

Nah I wouldn't, because he was worth the risk, unlike the third round tackle from a Ivy League school who barely played his senior year. Him and Booker are the ones who should be for another team like the Packers or Lions, because they're projects for depth pieces. We needed to try and draft as many starters as possible. Not starters for 2026.

I realize all of your picks can't be good, but your best pick can't be a punter also.

 

[Lou_Kayge]

Nah I wouldn't, because he was worth the risk, unlike the third round tackle from a Ivy League school who barely played his senior year. Him and Booker are the ones who should be for another team like the Packers or Lions, because they're projects for depth pieces. We needed to try and draft as many starters as possible. Not starters for 2026.

I realize all of your picks can't be good, but your best pick can't be a punter also.

We don't have the coaching staff for projects. Poles didn't realize that. It's a miracle that Tyson Bagent, a UDFA from a small school looked relatively competent during his 4 game (2-2) start in 2023.

 

[Complex]

We don't have the coaching staff for projects. Poles didn't realize that. It's a miracle that Tyson Bagent, a UDFA from a small school looked relatively competent during his 4 game (2-2) start in 2023.

I was listening to Shea today and he was harder on Poles than me



I see what he's saying about drafting Rome. I think I said up here I didn't really understand the Keenan Allen trade and Rome pick, considering we also had Tyler Scott and Cole.... I said it should have been either or since it was a one year rental. That being said, even though Keenan has dropped a bunch of passes, he's been Cabe's favorite receiver lately. And yeah, you draft a receiver in the first round to be a number one. I've thought for a moment that he takes the job too personal instead of business and making the best business and team decision. He was going to trade up for Rome, so we would have lost another draft pick. When he traded away a fourth, fifth and sixth. Darrell Taylor had one good game for that sixth.

and I forgot about how he traded a fifth for Bates when I heard when we got him, Buffalo was probably going to cut him to save money. The most important part....he's not fuckin good. But Poles has been wanting him for three years. What did he see? It's like he sees underdogs and tries to repair them. We want him to draft more lineman? Not even mentioning the Zach Pickens and Dexter draft, it was like he was saying, one of them will work out.

Bates and Swift, I just tried to be optimistic. Same with Kevin Byard...I was reading he was washed in Philly, but I was being optimistic maybe it was Philly's system. I didn't really understand getting rid of an old and washed Eddie Jackson and you sign another old safety. But you see Brisker made Byard look a whole lot better early in the year.

and yeah, it's time to say Edmunds was a bad signing. At least last year he caused a few turnovers. Honestly unlike Shea was saying, I think a lot of people on the team like Jaylon and DJ Moore are making business decisions to get through this year healthy and try again next year.

 

[darth frosty]

 

[cnc]

I was listening to Shea today and he was harder on Poles than me



I see what he's saying about drafting Rome. I think I said up here I didn't really understand the Keenan Allen trade and Rome pick, considering we also had Tyler Scott and Cole.... I said it should have been either or since it was a one year rental. That being said, even though Keenan has dropped a bunch of passes, he's been Cabe's favorite receiver lately. And yeah, you draft a receiver in the first round to be a number one. I've thought for a moment that he takes the job too personal instead of business and making the best business and team decision. He was going to trade up for Rome, so we would have lost another draft pick. When he traded away a fourth, fifth and sixth. Darrell Taylor had one good game for that sixth.

and I forgot about how he traded a fifth for Bates when I heard when we got him, Buffalo was probably going to cut him to save money. The most important part....he's not fuckin good. But Poles has been wanting him for three years. What did he see? It's like he sees underdogs and tries to repair them. We want him to draft more lineman? Not even mentioning the Zach Pickens and Dexter draft, it was like he was saying, one of them will work out.

Bates and Swift, I just tried to be optimistic. Same with Kevin Byard...I was reading he was washed in Philly, but I was being optimistic maybe it was Philly's system. I didn't really understand getting rid of an old and washed Eddie Jackson and you sign another old safety. But you see Brisker made Byard look a whole lot better early in the year.

and yeah, it's time to say Edmunds was a bad signing. At least last year he caused a few turnovers. Honestly unlike Shea was saying, I think a lot of people on the team like Jaylon and DJ Moore are making business decisions to get through this year healthy and try again next year.

Allen dropped another one tonight that would have been a 1st down but saved a play too, so……

Your analysis is spot on. Swift reminds me of Brandin Cooks, hell of a talent, all the tools, can never seem to stick with a franchise. He’s shown flashes all season and his desire to get tough yards, seems like he’s more willing to so than in his Detroit days.

 

[Complex]

I feel the same way, it's been a few instances where it seemed like the defense made a weak effort to get to the ball and make the play

 

[cnc]

Curhan is playing his last games in the pros, brutal fucking penalties.

What a job by Caleb to keep the game alive.