And there it is. Ron came up with the premise of the game. Dwayne wouldn't know what to program if it wasn't for Ron's idea. Ron's idea would just be words if it wasn't for Dwayne's sweat equity.
If it's not 50/50, it better be close.
A Different World dilemma - that episode where Dwayne and Ron fought over percentages with The Baseball Grammar Game
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And there it is. Ron came up with the premise of the game. Dwayne wouldn't know what to program if it wasn't for Ron's idea. Ron's idea would just be words if it wasn't for Dwayne's sweat equity.
If it's not 50/50, it better be close.
It's not about what he does, but how my bride reacts.
But make no mistake, would have to tighten Dwayne up for that white horse shit.
When Ron hit him with that $200 that he loaned Dwayne, reminds of this verse from ‘Still Dreamin’ by Nas:
“How you a man waiting for the next man to get rich?
Your plan is to stick out your hand real quick
So if he feed your family and he serve you shit
Then he need that head you get and he deserve your bitch”
“How you a man waiting for the next man to get rich?
Your plan is to stick out your hand real quick
So if he feed your family and he serve you shit
Then he need that head you get and he deserve your bitch”
FACTS
Easily my favorite sitcom of all time.....easily the most influential/impactful show of my childhood. That show had a major impact on me and helped to shape who I became for the rest of my life
It may be underrated among the "mainstream" society......But for a certain segment of us......Pro black, educated Gen-X, Xennials and older millennials..... its Highly revered.
Eg. Jemele Hill and Michael smith with the Opening credit homage, Lena waithe production company named "Hillman Grad productions" etc.
As for the Question...
I remember this episode vividly....I think it was the penultimate episode of the Series......Part 1 in the Series finale if i ain't mistaken. But I remember thinking Dwayne shouldn't have completely dismissed Ron....I think he should've gave Ron credit for sparking the thought in an informal brainstorming session. 10% or a set fee would be cool.
Can't believe some mufuckas talking bout 50%.....Type of dudes who would want credit or a percentage if you started a successful Auto detailing spot by saying "I told you to wash your car that day"
Legit hero inspiration
It was an honor to be able to tell him and "Theo" that in person
I HAD that outfit he wearing
The bright colored suit jacket the glasses that necklace too.
And till this day?
All I ever wanted was that leather saddle bag.
this is what makes this episode great in its conflict and dilemma...the casualness in which the million dollar idea came to be. Whitleys frustration at tutoring sparked an idea by Ron and Dwayne chimed in (lets not act like it was ALL Ron's idea). Ron just tossed out an idea on a friends kitchen table. If Dwayne designed and pitched it and it FLOPPED Ron wouldn't have thought "oh I'll just hire someone to develop it better" He would have just let it go and not given it a second thought.
This is a classic It's All Fun And Games Until There's MONEY On The Table! scenario.
Remember in the history of the show...Ron was always coming up with ideas (in sitcom speak it would be called "get rich quick schemes") or small business hustles like the wake up call thing he and Dwayne came up with....the first time they collaborated.
here its clear it was Rons idea that Dwayne jumped on but the difference is they BOTH actively worked on making it happen.
In the gameboy thing....once Dwayne had the core idea, he just set his mind to the technical side of developing it. Any further input from Ron wasn't necessary which is why Dwayne never thought to consult with him after that. And since he designed, pitched and sold the thing by himself, he didn't consider Ron's initial input significant. THAT'S predicated on the fact that he really always looked down on Ron as @playahaitian observed:
and it was. By the 4th season we see Ron grow more into his own character. In the first two seasons he was more of toady/junior partner for Dwayne but in the episode where they join a frat, Dwayne dropped out while Ron finished and that established his own character in its own right (great episode). So their dynamic was built on Ron playing second fiddle to Dwayne and Dwayne had a sense of superiority to him because of it
Remember, in anger, Dwayne offered 5%....I voted 10 but IMO thats the ball park of a proper split considering the circumstances of how the game came to be.
Def not 50/50
, but u missed or didn’t gaf about the point I was makin. The point was that the conflict could have been avoided if communication was clear. Them moment Dwayne Wayne thought to put the idea into motion he shoulda had a convo wit Ron. In DW mind he came up wit the idea of a game cartridge for fun learning, Ron came up with the detail of his already formed idea, so the detail to him was an afterthought, especially since he put in 100% of the work. Personally, Ron’s detail to DW idea is only worth 10-30%, because the work is the majority. DW programming, funding, presenting, getting grants and approval, is the all the work Ron was absent from, how could it be close to 50/50
to be more accurate about development....remember Dwayne was an engineer for a software company and a teacher in that dept at the college...so he very likely had access to basic animation programs if not there then at the university...all he had to do was come up with a mock up of proof of concept for pitching.. not a finished product. A game would go thru several changes before it hits stores and thats where youd have animators and other developers involved. Remember he said it took him all night to work on the proposal. But your larger point is correct he did all the technical work.
Bolded.
Ron said baseball. DW didn't just do a quiz game....or just a word game....he did a quiz game using Ron's premise of baseball thus creating the engagement factor.
Interesting question though. You see where everyone's mentality lies business wise. Do you believe the creator of a concept of an idea should mostly benefit or the people below who do the legwork?
Should Bezos get the billions or all of the Amazon warehouse workers?
that falls under work for hire. If Ron presented Dwayne with a proposal for a video game and its understood dwayne's working for ron then the next formal step would be determining percentages or who gets what. I said it earlier... Ron just tossed out an idea on a friends kitchen table. If Dwayne designed and pitched it and it FLOPPED Ron wouldn't have thought "oh I'll just hire someone to develop it better" He would have just let it go and not given it a second thought.
The casualness of how the concept came about coupled with the close relationship of the people involved makes determining how a profitable idea gets divided up complicated. Because the person who had a majority of the core idea BUT didn't do any of the legwork to make it real would believe they had at least 50% if not more vs the person who chimed in on the idea AND did the heavy lifting of making it a real thing.
They were just talking....there was no official proposal for a business proposition.
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Ima keep yo energy and dismiss everything u sayin and reiterate my point, DW came up with the IDEA (cartridge based learning game fun for kids) while Ron came up with the DETAIL (baseball or sumn) and DW did all the WORK, 80-20 being generous
Love……
We don't know that.
True. But, after time and millions of dollars, I'd let the courts decide.
we can assume based on the characters behavior thru out the course of the show. I mean its an episodic tv show but there is some character development that happened and we do see both characters change and mature over 6 seasons. One thing consistent with Ron was that he was entrepreneurial minded but when a plan failed he tended to just move on to another plan rather than double down and try to make it work. So if Dwayne had gone to the Pit and said he pitched the game to Kineshiwa and they rejected it, he very likely would have either dropped it OR if he did stick with it he would have encouraged Dwayne to shop it to Kineshiwa's competitor. At which point there would have been alot of WE talk and Dwayne would been like "aren't WE getting plural all of sudden..." and we're back to the primary issue anyway.
But the the idea of making a tech/video game WITHOUT his buddy whose an computer engineer.... wouldn't have occurred to him considering how close they were.
Ron had considered suing Dwayne in the last episode
and what you'd would be the point of no return in relationship with your best friend....is the money worth it?
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Damn Debbie looked good... Dwayne was tripping for trying to take the credit - should be at least a 30% cut... Hate they decided to end the show with them niggas being so petty...underrated genius
He squared up on 3 dudes to protect him
Ron was a real one.
thirty percent, ron was on his couch and eating everything out of his crib and my man was struggling
You don’t get paid for an idea
Why would Ron be given 30% forever? If you pay him, you give him a cash payment (lump) sum.
Why not? Peep this..
Spielberg is STILL getting checks off a bet he made 40 years ago! A BET. but Ron shouldn't get paid for a lucrative idea??
You see how FRIENDS do it??
because he know whitely is high society, u eatin big d out of house and home, seeping on his couch
The only reason why I would give ron 20% It's because we boys they were not having A R and D session ron came up with the kernel of an idea after dwayne said let's make a game And then Dwayne executed it