This would make one hell of a Maury episode. At this point I want accused and supposedly involved to take lie detector tests. SMFH @ book of dick pics.
Afrika Bambaataa Sexual Assault Allegations, Testimony & Aftermath [UPDATE: LAWSUIT!]
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Can this possibly get UGLIER?
because i always look for an ulterior motive...
and i don't always do anything, I did it with Cosby and I am doing it here.
somebody coming forward and not using their name and they are in the paper ?
and Star saying if black lives matter then ZN should make him step down ?
that is another way of saying if black lives matter what about black on black crime
so what is the end game ?
I'm not saying it didn't happen or it did I am saying I need more than accusations decades later but one named and two unnamed sources.
Not to mention that politically after Cosby many states are trying to do away with the statute of limitations on rapes including NYS.
NY can't use Cosby to say they need to do it because none of his accusers were in NY.
Sure it can.....we had one thread that stayed on the front page for weeks....so now we have another thread..
Remember how many Cosby threads we had and the only ones of those that left the front page were the ones that discredited the accusers
I did not use the word always.
What would an ulterior motive for this be?
Also, would the removal of said statute be a bad thing?
Cosby broke my heart...but I have to be honest we had heard rumblings...
this one I don't know it feels DIFFERENT somehow.
I really truly couldn't give a sh*t if Bam was gay...
but its the fact that Zulu kept abuse rape destruction of young defenseless black men
preying on them
the whole thing Zulu CLAIMED to be against protecting them from.
I aint never co-signed gang culture and basically lets be real that IS what Zulu was but the greatest the beauty the POWER the inspiration of Zulu becoming MORE was so powerful it sparked a NEW damn CULTURE of Hip hop..
a culture I am proud to say I am from and my kids and little ones are part of too...
but this is just vile.
I could picture a single Black mother in the hood saying ...
I don't want my kid in no gang, I don't want him dealing drugs, I don;t want robbing and stealing, I don;t trust no white priest, but I KNOW Afrika and Zulu gonna take care of my boy.
Every single muthafukin member of Zulu who KNEW about this and did nothing need to be charged federally, if this boys went on tour they should be charged with trafficking if pictures were taken the same...and a conspiracy charge for distributing child pornography
I'm serious.
The Cosby thing they were all fairly adult women who WILLING went up to his room...If he drugged them he should be put UNDER the jail.
If Bam and his crew REALLY did this?
I would NOT be opposed with the death penalty.
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The ulterior motive could be passing legislation..
It could be monetary..
It could be to destroy Zulu nation which has always been a positivity even when the crakkas took over rap and made it negative
It could be attention since Star is the one pushing it.
The removal could be a bad thing and adds the potential of abuse to an already abused justice system. It lessens the fairness for the accused.
How do you prosecute a case when there were no reports when it happened , no evidence collected and then 20 30 40 years later somebody makes an accusation and doesn't have to back it up ...
it would be just making innocent unless proven guilty even more of a farce..
There are a lot of ifs in your post based on decades-old accusations by one person and two anonymous persons..
All it takes today is an accusation.....
Hell yeah. Let somebody get hold of the book of dick pics and start name dropping.
Peace Playa,
If any of this is proven to be true? If it is true?
I would imagine its some footage out there in the possession of someone.
If something like that were to surface, damn.
BAM, would be fucked off.
But you do know the idea:
- of lowering the age of consent
- inter-generational sex
- pedophilia in general
I don't agree with it or condone it before KATS jump all over me.
It all seems odd. This entire situation. There is more to this story than is being reported?
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But bruh
A gang of cats right on this board say they basically knew of this for years
The way you're framing it is like a lawyer looking for a loophole to keep a guilty muhfucka out of trouble at all costs.
The way sucka ass lawyers do when a cop shoots one of us.
It's shit like this that fucks up justice more than anything else.
i read that and don't believe most of them if any...
but if they are telling the truth shouldn't they also get pinched ? They knew and did nothing ? they were witnesses.
the reason so many of us end up locked up is because we don't have lawyers looking to protect us we have public defenders looking to move us right along.
i hope you never go to court with your freedom on the line and get bullied into a plea bargain because there is no evidence but you don't want to take a chance on losing.
and i am not framing it to keep a guilty mofokr out I am framing it to keep an innocent mofokr out.
the ones framing it by not even caring if there is evidence or not are the ones who scare me because they sit on juries and just use emotion Those are the ones who let cops go because they judge with their bias
Peace All,
I hear all these KATS saying they knew BAM was gay and getting down all-over the:
Was the HIP-HOP community really covering up BAM's homosexual behavior that tight?
I'm sure if the people who could protect him knew about his get-down. I'm damn sure those who could place him in power or destroy him certainly knew.
So, I wonder what did BAM "NOT DO" that made this story gain traction in major papers, without any proof?
I'm not taking BAM's side or discrediting any of the Accusers. I'm simply asking a question.
I hear all these KATS saying they knew BAM was gay and getting down all-over the:
- 5 boroughs
- United States
- Internationally
Was the HIP-HOP community really covering up BAM's homosexual behavior that tight?
I'm sure if the people who could protect him knew about his get-down. I'm damn sure those who could place him in power or destroy him certainly knew.
So, I wonder what did BAM "NOT DO" that made this story gain traction in major papers, without any proof?
I'm not taking BAM's side or discrediting any of the Accusers. I'm simply asking a question.
I don't know what the "MORE" is?
But I whole-heartily believe that "ITS MORE" to this story:
If this whole story is true?
But I whole-heartily believe that "ITS MORE" to this story:
- Than reported.
- Why its come to light now
- What toes got stepped on to bring this about?
- Who did not fulfill their mission?
- And did that set the wheels of destruction in motion?
- have something on you.
- Which can always be hung over your head.
- This gets you to continually kowtow to their wills and wishes.
- Even if it violates your moral code!
If this whole story is true?
I agree I THINK MAYBE I heard rumblings but you know how our people are with stuff like that...just off his voice and vocabulary he gay
damn I had people for years COLLEGE EDUCATED PROFESSIONALS
SWEAR on EVERYTHING
Tisha Campbell really had AIDs...
because she played a HIV positive character on A Different World DECADES ago...
so trust I've got mountains of grains of salt when it concerns these issues.
My only guess is the SIZE and INFLUENCE and IMPORTANCE of Zulu Nation to the damn FOUNDATION of Hip hop?
It was just TOO MUCH.
Something like this?
I think it was connected with the cover up over the stabbing that was the tipping point, someone finally said ENOUGH and in addition the victims all reached a certain age and Zulu with the documentary Rubble Kings and new members (Fallon Wayne Nas...) jealousy envy rise of gay culture hell probably the whole Bruce Jenner thing...
all that it was just the perfect storm
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unfortunately I think you are right...
I heard one victim talk about a stash of Polaroids.
If they witnessed children being molested in any way shape or form..
and said nothing they are JUST as bad as the abuser.
I thought the same with the Sandusky case...EVERYONE including the school needed to go down.
I aint saying fairness and all that..
it is important to set a damn example.
but what else can I go fam?
We talking Black boys potentially getting raped for decades.
when ONE white girl dies from a heroin overdose they ready to not only change the laws about drug sale and possession they ready to spend millions on treatment and clinics and counseling...but us n*ggas we the abusers and the sellers let us all die they will change the law so that there is mandatory sentencing and the Black USER gets more time then the white trafficker and they start classifying drugs to target the poorest most disenfranchised.
My point being? THEY protect their own....point blank oeriod.
WE need to the same
IF and again IF Zulu did this...
this is worse then the white devil oppressor doing it...cause we KNOW them and we SHOULD always be vigilant.
But here not that I am absolving ANYONE of responsibility
its like family doing this.
Well, NY niggas on this board and BGOL cats in the business said they knew.
Griff, Jamar, Doggie Diamonds all said they knew about this type activity from 10, 20 plus years back.
It ain't about 'if' no more.
Bronx Fam knew Bam was a homo they didn't know he was messing with children there's a difference
a big difference
the bolded is the first goal post move. Also there's a distinction to be made between people who witnessed directly and secondhand accounts from credible sources.
And that goes to my point, the importance of being able to recognize when nuanced thinking is required.
If allegations for every crime were approached the way you seem to feel rape should be, that could just as easily lead to abuse in the other direction.
No one is suggesting that, as per the law, anyone should be convicted without due process or without "evidence", but often what constitutes evidence isn't just a nice little object you can hold in your hand.
And that's as far as the law
As far as what the rest of us think or know, call it the community consciousness or hood jury, what have you, that should not be dismissed so easily. Especially considering that our collective sense of right and wrong is often what separates us from these lying ass devils. As far as THAT, man if you start injecting bullshit into that looking for technicalities and shit, it's a slippery slope into the moral void that already runs this globe.
damn this shit made the daily news.... I aint even peep that...
I did not go through this whole thread did bam come up with the proof that star was an agent???
if he did it, thats some fucked up shit and he needs to face them demons..
if he didnt, its fucked up how a mob mentality can wreck a mans life when he is innocent...
I did not go through this whole thread did bam come up with the proof that star was an agent???
if he did it, thats some fucked up shit and he needs to face them demons..
if he didnt, its fucked up how a mob mentality can wreck a mans life when he is innocent...
REPEAT, we knew he was into DUDES, never kids!
REPEAT, the BLACK "community" as a whole has ALWAYS covered up all such sexual and psychical abuses done to children, fuck if person a celeb or in church or Joe smho on the block, stop acting like that ain't the fucking truth cause it HURTS and is shameful to admit!
Monk I agree 100% but you and I know regular cats couldn't regulate Bam because the nation was deep.. Folk ain't want no problems wit them niggas
And as stated before, we've heard this for decades about the Gay, just like we know about Puffy and Busta and a bunch others and to each his own but I never heard rumblings about CHILDREN till I posted this pic in 2012 on my FB and cats I knew went in immediately in text and message and in the pic which convo was later deleted.
So no conspiracy at all!
So no conspiracy at all!
And kill that Bullshit on Zulu being on some positive shit like that too, it just like a franchise with different chapters doing different behavior. And everyone and they moms suddenly was Zulu or made honorary Zulu and wasn't even from them streets. Crazy legs a Zulu, that to you might make sense, Rich Medina is also Zulu, HOW SWAY, HOW? And that's my dude too.
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What is this 1992?
No dif that the decepticons ,transformers , Spanish kings, black stabbers and all them other wild mofos doing dumb shit back then
The Ghetto Brothers , Black and Yellow Benjy were the ONLY ones running around NYC mediating gang violence in 70's for the record since some of y'all running with hearsay bullshit. Zulu's were part of the group that killed and mutilated Black Benjy during a mediation and the Ghetto Brothers basically had the entire gang world of NYC and all their outer chapters ready to mobilize and go to war against the Zulu nation and the other latin gang involved which was pretty big at the time. Black benjy Moms asked them not to or this would be a whole different NYC if they had and the subsequent peace treaty meeting at Hoe Ave.
And by the way Bambatta was like 13-14 years old when this occurred, BAM was the man back then, TWO DIFFERENT people.
And by the way Bambatta was like 13-14 years old when this occurred, BAM was the man back then, TWO DIFFERENT people.
No, its "FUCK WITH DRE DAY"...1992...ALBUM..."THE CHRONIC"
Yeah, that's what the fuck I'm talkin' about
We have your motherfuckin' record company surrounded
Put down the candy and let the little boy go
You know what I'm sayin, punk motherfucker
Peace Monk,
Great information to help put it all in perspective.
BROTHERS, on BGOL always have some history to provide.
Monk as point of clarification are saying BAM was:
1. 13 or 14 years old and to young to have had a real impact on the gang truce. Especially, the situation surrounding the murder of Black Benjy?
Or are you saying:
2. It was remarkable for a Kat only 13 or 14 years old to be able to stop the potential warfare and repercussions regarding Black Benjy's murder? Thereby bring about a treaty with the gangs and solidifying his legacy?
3. What are the 2 different people?
A. The person BAMBATTA was and who he became (good and bad)?
B. Or are you speaking on a whole another KAT?
Please bear with me BROTHER. I just want to be clear.