How did Harris or Biden constantly belittle the base?
After two losses to Trump, what should the Democratic Party strategy be moving forward?
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How did Harris or Biden constantly belittle the base?
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1) Don't run annoying women who most people don't like
2) Don't make your number one priority issues that nobody cares about
3) Be actually progressive
4) Don't have your nominee lie about being a one term president and then force the issue of running again while nearly senile until you don't have time to run primaries and get the base excited for a candidate
5) Stop trying to win Florida, it's over. Move on.
6) Stop calling people Nazis and racist even if it's true, win elections and then make changes from within. Liberal brownie points don't mean shit.
7)When they go low, go low.
8)And so on and so forth.
9) stop going after white suburban women, they're just as evil as their husbands.
10) stop trying to win over new voters, if they would have kept the same amount of voters they would have won, mobilize and energize your actual base, you're not convincing Billie boh to vote for you and. You don't need him. Stop the culture war bullshit, beat the Message in like you're speaking to children.
11) it's The economy stupid.
But they won't learn shit, they never do and ultimately I don't think they want to. In pro wrestling there's an old wrestling rule of thumb that the baby face(good guy) is always more over(popular) when they're chasing than when they get the belt and have a title reign. The heel is kept as the champ to make the chase exciting and keep the fans fighting for the good guy. I think Democrats enjoy being the baby face chasing the bad guy without having to actually do anything(at least since Obama.)
2) Don't make your number one priority issues that nobody cares about
3) Be actually progressive
4) Don't have your nominee lie about being a one term president and then force the issue of running again while nearly senile until you don't have time to run primaries and get the base excited for a candidate
5) Stop trying to win Florida, it's over. Move on.
6) Stop calling people Nazis and racist even if it's true, win elections and then make changes from within. Liberal brownie points don't mean shit.
7)When they go low, go low.
8)And so on and so forth.
9) stop going after white suburban women, they're just as evil as their husbands.
10) stop trying to win over new voters, if they would have kept the same amount of voters they would have won, mobilize and energize your actual base, you're not convincing Billie boh to vote for you and. You don't need him. Stop the culture war bullshit, beat the Message in like you're speaking to children.
11) it's The economy stupid.
But they won't learn shit, they never do and ultimately I don't think they want to. In pro wrestling there's an old wrestling rule of thumb that the baby face(good guy) is always more over(popular) when they're chasing than when they get the belt and have a title reign. The heel is kept as the champ to make the chase exciting and keep the fans fighting for the good guy. I think Democrats enjoy being the baby face chasing the bad guy without having to actually do anything(at least since Obama.)
This is interesting:
The reason Republicans are winning over so many young people is because the right invests hours and hours, everyday, every month, every year in audience-building among its influencer class. We can't compete by sticking our candidates on an episode one time in October of an election year. Democrats need to embrace YEAR-ROUND progressive media (either directly political or political-adjacent) if we want to compete.
The reason Republicans are winning over so many young people is because the right invests hours and hours, everyday, every month, every year in audience-building among its influencer class. We can't compete by sticking our candidates on an episode one time in October of an election year. Democrats need to embrace YEAR-ROUND progressive media (either directly political or political-adjacent) if we want to compete.
The Democrats will human traffic, us to wealthy gay white men for political donations, in exchange for legal protection. The only reason that P Diddy was charged was because of his wife, stepping forward.
I don't have to worry about being drugged and waking up with my anus bleeding.
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Post another thread I have made since the election and I will send you $50.
Or tell us who forced you to click and we will tell you how to free yourself from being that man’s bitch.
Another bed wench is up out of here that will try to barter us off to get elected. The good thing with Kamala Harris becoming vice president and running for president is her political career is over with. As Senator, she would still be in office till 2027. She could've got elected again, or became governor doing some real damage in the state.
Her Presidential aspirations are over with after seeing her being destroyed.
President Biden took a lot of the filth and did the same thing to them. Their political careers are done, that is the positive thing with President Biden getting rid of a lot of the filth they got cabinet level positions.
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We no longer have an imitation black woman that is Indian as Senator trying to undermine the black community. She was trying to do a buy bust in the black community, wearing a wire talking about creating forgivable loans to 'blacks'. She knows the political environment that we are in yet used no coded language such as veterans, disabled, or economically disadvantage.
It looked like a set up to me, the Indians and Asian obsess about affirmative action. On the Republicans side, they would dismantle these programs politically or appear friendly and helpful on the Democrat side to have these programs struck down in court.
Indians have become politically active since the make up of the court has changed to conservatives.
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Aaand that's why maga is a real political force now... It's just not a realistic stance. As it stands right now there's real possibility that maga could to make it legally impossible to get reparations for that much...do you really believe that black Americans as the ONLY GROUP seeking settlement to the tune of 20 trillion will somehow garner empathy/sympathy support for that much money exclusively for us? Again what percentage of black Americans actually demand it?
More money was spent by republican governors trafficking migrants to "sanctuary cities" than most cities themselves spent on resources for the migrants....(*exceptions being NYC, which faced a massive surge compared to Rural Dayton, Oh or the suburbs of San Francisco....and etc)
Lol u wanna garner sympathy and plead. MLK tried that...it doesn't work
Well for starters don’t nominate a woman. Apparently they have less of a chance winning than an African from Chicago. Who the fuck would’ve thought that 20 years ago.
I said stop making threads, where did I mention the election? You retard.
What MLK did got you your voting rights.
This is exactly the kind of modern Democratic response that will keep them out of the White House for quite some time now.
A good swath of people, not just here but in the real world as well now, are not only telling you, but just showed you the exact problems and you chose not to listen.
What’s the purpose in asking the question if you have no capacity to listen to the response?
If it’s just a “oh that’s just you” response, that “that’s just you” voting block lost you 1600.
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Two circus acts that nobody should take serious outside of a freak show.Not pander to LGBTQRSTUV by giving them cabinet positions?
Oh no not yet ye voting rights LMAO
I think people can criticize the Dems and still remain democrats.Party switch incoming
There are tons of people that criticize the USA for its faults but we're not advocating to move elsewhere.
you have to put up a fight in order to lose, we all saw that they were a political punching bag, most of the democrats are in trump's trust fund and pocket, they gladly held the door for him to take the white house. this was political masterpiece theater
The Democratic Party has to accept the fact that America is a stupid place with Stupid people. You can't reach Stupid people with logic and common sense. You can't please Stupid people with results. That's right. Even when they get what they need, they often don't know it or attribute it to something else. What happened this week is not new. It just happens more often now. In 1980, working-class folks joined the Reagan revolution. Black folks included. I remember watching the news, and a Black Woman gets a brief "Man in the Street" interview, Where she states Jim Carter promised us Peanuts & all we got were the shells. I would love to see what she had to say in 1990. Reagan's economic policies were considered to be terrible ideas among most economists. Even his eventual VP pick called them "VooDoo Economics." Reagan's two terms were disastrous for the middle class—budget Cuts to Social programs, Deregulation, Union Busting, Race-baiting, and Bullshit Tax Reform.
The middle class lost big on Tax reform in the 80s. Consumers lost the ability to deduct interest on credit cards and Auto loans.
There was a particular shame to racism in the '60s and '70s. In the Reagan era, it began to be normalized. You start seeing KlansMan like David Duke running for office. That's only the beginning. You would think 10 years of frozen wages & higher taxes for the middle class and working poor would smarten these folks up. Nope. Although Bill Clinton was elected, that was more a reaction to the economic situation and Clinton's likeability. Unfortunately, when Clinton tried to address healthcare and involved his wife, that was a bridge too far. The working class got worked up into a fury thanks to rightwing talk radio. The result was the "Contract for America," in which Congress fell to the Republicans, and Clinton became more centrist. Once again, the working class shot themselves in the foot. Healthcare reform would sit on the back burner for another 20 years, much to the delight of the Insurance companies. I could go on. The working class used to be reachable and knew where it stood in the economic landscape, but that had more to do with unions. Workers usually voted the way their union advised. That's what made the Blue Wall. The loss of Union jobs and competitive wages nationwide has created a large population of perpetually dissatisfied workers. Right now, a lot of them have fallen under the spell of MAGA, and instead of concrete economic programs that would benefit them, they cheer nonsense. They worry about Brown bogie men crossing the southern border, Stopping Abortion, DEI (although many of them don't know what it is), Who's standing for the national anthem, other folks' sexual ID, and What the Civil War was actually about, etc...
If the Democratic party wants to win, it has to realign its strategies to appeal to the Stupid. Infiltrate the online misinformation "idiotsphere". Start a counter-misinformation program. Use offshore data servers and flood social media with misinformation. Emulate what Russia and other adversaries are doing to create chaos. Create your own chaos. The country is Stupid. It's dead from the neck up. So go out and get your share of "Meat Heads."
The middle class lost big on Tax reform in the 80s. Consumers lost the ability to deduct interest on credit cards and Auto loans.
There was a particular shame to racism in the '60s and '70s. In the Reagan era, it began to be normalized. You start seeing KlansMan like David Duke running for office. That's only the beginning. You would think 10 years of frozen wages & higher taxes for the middle class and working poor would smarten these folks up. Nope. Although Bill Clinton was elected, that was more a reaction to the economic situation and Clinton's likeability. Unfortunately, when Clinton tried to address healthcare and involved his wife, that was a bridge too far. The working class got worked up into a fury thanks to rightwing talk radio. The result was the "Contract for America," in which Congress fell to the Republicans, and Clinton became more centrist. Once again, the working class shot themselves in the foot. Healthcare reform would sit on the back burner for another 20 years, much to the delight of the Insurance companies. I could go on. The working class used to be reachable and knew where it stood in the economic landscape, but that had more to do with unions. Workers usually voted the way their union advised. That's what made the Blue Wall. The loss of Union jobs and competitive wages nationwide has created a large population of perpetually dissatisfied workers. Right now, a lot of them have fallen under the spell of MAGA, and instead of concrete economic programs that would benefit them, they cheer nonsense. They worry about Brown bogie men crossing the southern border, Stopping Abortion, DEI (although many of them don't know what it is), Who's standing for the national anthem, other folks' sexual ID, and What the Civil War was actually about, etc...
If the Democratic party wants to win, it has to realign its strategies to appeal to the Stupid. Infiltrate the online misinformation "idiotsphere". Start a counter-misinformation program. Use offshore data servers and flood social media with misinformation. Emulate what Russia and other adversaries are doing to create chaos. Create your own chaos. The country is Stupid. It's dead from the neck up. So go out and get your share of "Meat Heads."
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This is absolutely correct. Democrats invented the damn internet but Republicans have owned it. How many spaces online are littered with red pillers, incels, the Andrew Tates and Joe Rogans of the world. It’s everywhere. They invested time into the medium to get their messaging out. Democrats have to figure out how to do the same.
You know when you vote republican or independent you have every right and SHOULD BE demanding the same things from them that you demand from the Democrats. That's the whole point of voting right?
So what's stopping you and other black person who voted for trump from demanding his plan on black exclusive policy and reparations???
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The democrats never thought they could beat the republicans. The democratic constituencies wanted a tax cut and so does the political spine of the Republican Party. The muscle of the Republican Party wants economic gains only for them. Do you see the dissonance? Your economic gains are at the expense of the economic elite. White people will always be convinced that someone picked their pockets. They’re dumb. What we have to do is act like we aren’t.
we looked to the people who labeled us 3/5 differently than the folks who gave us the 13,14,15th amendment. They’re the same people working towards the same goal: Cheap fucking labor.
Who gave them the label Hispanic? Are they okay with it? If you can bow to imaginary lines and concepts, you will bow to the real world pressures.
Cuttin' me my muffuggin check..
How is that interesting? It’s vapid and offers nothing to any meaningful discussion. Half the generation want to be an influencer and the other half wants to get “The Bag”. You prey on their greed and you guide them towards the vapors. That fear is instantaneously transmitted through generations because it’s in the DNA.
They’re real to you. They aren’t real to people with power. Those lines are just bars like the ones in prison.
So when a man says he’s a woman, I’m not going to argue with that. What he feels is real to him.
How many folks booked their tickets out of here? How many folks left the country 6 months before the 2016 election?
Folks won’t leave because they need to be physically close to power.
Everyone draws lines.
People Won't leave because the fear the unknown and it's hard to leave the comforts of your current situation.
The fear of the unknown and the narrative that God wouldn’t give anything we can’t handle are a good pair of things to believe in.