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I need some feedback on something.
I'm writing a "Period Piece." It takes place a few years before the "American Civil War" kicks off. I can see the way the story will play out already.
I'm wondering if I should create the story as a screenplay, with other people doing the direction, casting, and production. Or, should I create it as a "Graphic Novel?"
If I do it as a graphic novel, I can have someone draw/ink the characters exactly as I see them in my mind. I know it's really hard to get a screenplay picked up. But, I could probably finance my own graphic novel.
Any thoughts, Fam?
I'm writing a "Period Piece." It takes place a few years before the "American Civil War" kicks off. I can see the way the story will play out already.
I'm wondering if I should create the story as a screenplay, with other people doing the direction, casting, and production. Or, should I create it as a "Graphic Novel?"
If I do it as a graphic novel, I can have someone draw/ink the characters exactly as I see them in my mind. I know it's really hard to get a screenplay picked up. But, I could probably finance my own graphic novel.
Any thoughts, Fam?
I really like the graphic novel approach
Fully story boarded, dialog, setting, camera angles, and easier to get read. And money come from sales.
A lot of writers getting offers going that route.
It depends on your goal. If you feel strongly about the idea and want to maintain creative control, a graphic novel makes perfect sense. At the same time, graphic novels aren't cheap to make. There's no guarantee you'll make a profit or break even. If you haven't checked already, there's a lot of information on YouTube about the pros and cons.
Hollywood still hasn't recovered from the strike. It's harder than ever to sell a script. Even established screenwriters are having trouble selling original material. Period pieces have always been tough sells. That being said, a spec script can have value outside of a sale. It can be a writing sample that shows your skill. Look what I can do with this low-budget, high-concept idea. Some writers can get representation and writing assignments based on their unproduced scripts.
Thank you... That was some good information to chew on.
Real talk, I care more about the story getting out there, than I do from getting paid from it. Some capitalist I am! I just don't want the original story to be chopped to pieces and dumbed down.
Thank you again...
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Well damn...
This AI shit scares me as a writer. I just now figured out what the hell I'm good at and now there's a computer that can do it 85% as well as I can
There is a new AI that can do a 2 voice podcast from a few prompts... for free.
@godofwine
@raze
@playahaitian
So I've got a story for you. It's OFF-topic, but I'll try to circle it back to machines / robots (and in this instance really wishing more human involvement was incorporated).
So working in health care ... we've had different contracts with pharmacies over the years. They're the ones who send out our weekly med pass deliveries (on Thursdays) which is for the following Monday - Sunday cycle. Some of the pharmacies have been better than others. Larger or smaller, it doesn't really matter. My personal take is that they take on too many clients and don't oversee the dispensing process as well.
Here's the thing ... so it's on our staff to look over the meds when they arrive, and someone after them to double-check the delivery. That's one of my jobs. I've caught the occasional error over the years, but usually it's something like 1 extra pill, or a half tab missing. Nothing huge.
This past year has been a different story though. Our most senior staff with 20+ years experience has seemingly not being checking deliveries properly, and I've caught 4 instances of errors (Feb / June / August / Sept - this past Thursday). There were 9 pills missing in the Feb delivery. Just a few for the June and August ones, and a shitload of errors this past Thursday.
So for this one person's med roll ... they are supposed to have a certain medication 3 times daily. The tab in particular is 150mg (half of a 300mg white oblong shape) at 08:00hr, 12:00hr, and 21:00hr.
Each of the med pouches clearly identifies what it's supposed to be and the shape / color.
In the pouches instead was half of a small pink tablet. I was cross-referencing some stuff and it turned out to be half of their PRN (as needed) medication of the same variety, but only half of a 25mg tablet (so 12.5mg). So essentially less than 1/10th what they should have been receiving dosage-wise (12.5mg versus 150mg). This was 3 times daily ... so 21 of the pouches (with other medication) were incorrect.
I brought it up to another coworker to follow up with the pharmacy and send us a completely new roll, but shit ... this is the stuff that HUMANS should be catching and not having some machine fire off packaging the rolls, and then having our staff supposedly "check" them.
There's gotta be consequences on their end at the pharmacy, but also with our staff for not doing their job properly. I don't like that feeling of catching mistakes after the fact ... especially 4 times in just over a half year. And like I said ... it's not just 1 tablet, or a half tablet. It's 3 times daily ... for 7 days ... with completely different appearing dosages and colors.
They delivered the correct roll on Friday, and the manager left some stuff in that co-staff's office tray, as well as told them to check their email (hopefully follow-up with admin). It's pissing me off though and when I have confronted them in the past about the seriousness of checking medications, they immediately deflected and I told them that's NOT helpful. They have to take personal accountability. And my thing is this ... if the pharmacy itself has a contract across an organization, that means they have hundreds of clients. And if the pharmacy doesn't take the time to double-check their rolls before sending them out for delivery ... and the staffing doesn't check the supplies coming in ... are we just willy-nilly dispensing that stuff to people?
Fortunately in this case it would have been "under" dosing, one would say. But shit ... what if the dosage called for 12.5mg, and we were just randomly giving them 150mg each time? Fuck ... and it's happened at other locations too (general mistakes with deliveries - when I've talked to our oncall staff). Personally I would like to see the co-staff suspended or fired at this point. They're NOT taking the job seriously. Unionized work and all ... but where's the repercussions?
More human involvement and accountability is needed. Fuck all this AI / Robot / Machine bullshit.
/End rant.
Fuck. Absolutely fuck
Additional note re: previous reply.
When I talked to the coworker previously, I pointed out that they were like a hockey goalie blocking saves with all their "deflections" ... never taking accountability, or simply saying "I'm sorry" / "That won't happen again" (undoubtedly because they know they'll resort back to NOT properly checking medication deliveries).
So when I had a serious talk with them, pointing out that the pharmacy is making errors that she is not catching, and that casual / oncall staff are more likely to NOT thoroughly double-check stuff after her ... her replies were essentially -
"The pharmacy is not doing a good job ..."
"The casuals are to blame. They need to do better ..."
I pointed out to her the casuals are here once or twice a month. She's here some 2000 hours a year, and she is dispensing medication to people regularly (shift work - 2 weeks of days / 2 weeks of evenings). IF she receives the meds and doesn't check them properly, and myself or someone else isn't actually doing a double-check of them ... we're fucked. And I really don't like that feeling of being sabotaged in a way.
All it takes is just sitting down and being patient ... grabbing the existing roll of meds and cross-referencing it with the new delivery. And then just following the pattern. I.E. - 2 / 1 / 3 / 4 / 2. Whatever the actual med dosage amounts are. IF something looks awry - just note this to the next staff, and in the communication log. That's what I did ...
I basically wrote - "Double-checked the meds. Please look over ALL of the pouches for this med. They all seem to be incorrect at 08:00, 12:00hr and 21:00hr for September 23rd - 29th." And then highlighted that CLEARLY in the log, and highlighted another staff's follow-up with the pharmacy as well.
The pharmacy delivered the entire new replacement roll the following evening.
When I talked to the coworker previously, I pointed out that they were like a hockey goalie blocking saves with all their "deflections" ... never taking accountability, or simply saying "I'm sorry" / "That won't happen again" (undoubtedly because they know they'll resort back to NOT properly checking medication deliveries).
So when I had a serious talk with them, pointing out that the pharmacy is making errors that she is not catching, and that casual / oncall staff are more likely to NOT thoroughly double-check stuff after her ... her replies were essentially -
"The pharmacy is not doing a good job ..."
"The casuals are to blame. They need to do better ..."
I pointed out to her the casuals are here once or twice a month. She's here some 2000 hours a year, and she is dispensing medication to people regularly (shift work - 2 weeks of days / 2 weeks of evenings). IF she receives the meds and doesn't check them properly, and myself or someone else isn't actually doing a double-check of them ... we're fucked. And I really don't like that feeling of being sabotaged in a way.
All it takes is just sitting down and being patient ... grabbing the existing roll of meds and cross-referencing it with the new delivery. And then just following the pattern. I.E. - 2 / 1 / 3 / 4 / 2. Whatever the actual med dosage amounts are. IF something looks awry - just note this to the next staff, and in the communication log. That's what I did ...
I basically wrote - "Double-checked the meds. Please look over ALL of the pouches for this med. They all seem to be incorrect at 08:00, 12:00hr and 21:00hr for September 23rd - 29th." And then highlighted that CLEARLY in the log, and highlighted another staff's follow-up with the pharmacy as well.
The pharmacy delivered the entire new replacement roll the following evening.
H Funk aka Up North Boss.
Patient Care is the sole and primary mission.
If they cannot understand that they are in the wrong business
No one wants excuses if their loved one ends up in the hospital or worse
I got family in different medical fields
None is MORE important they are all critical
Lab, nursing, pharmacy, surgery, environmental etc etc.
Her MISTAKE could cost lives
And as a caregiver I would be livid.
You doing good H Funk
But if she continues to be careless after numerous reprimands she gotta go.
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It's funny cause some would think this is derailing but it really is not.
One of the toughest things in writing, film making and really life is going back and checking your work
Self editing self correction looking fir mistakes
It's critical to any process
But can also be daunting and time consuming and frustrating
Still it's essential and in this case life saving
Exactly. Thank you, Playa.
That's the thing ... medication dispensing is one of the most important tasks in this particular field. Otherwise it's more regular tasks, and of course observing behavior(s).
With her ... she has long coasted, and has never had that competence or skillset. Essentially coasts along hoping others will pick up the slack. Unfortunately the newbies and casuals in their 20s are more "qualified" and "focused" some 30 - 35 years younger than her approaching 60.
My fear is that she's going to coast to 65 or 71, and then retire ... or at least that's her goal having seniority and all.
Shit ... I've been in the field for just over 20 years, and 20 years with the current organization. I've always taken it seriously. I'm responsible for the health and well-being of those under my damn care. Fuck.
When I see my other coworker who followed up with the pharmacy and manager on Friday (he'll be in on Tuesday), I will ask him what the manager said. And IF I don't feel that's appropriate, I will further email her and say at what point's enough enough? Really and truly.
Side note ... she's also been trying to game the system and is doing "theft of company hours" in a sense this past year. Booking off for "med appt" time (for supposed dr appts) that I don't actually feel have been taking place. 5 earlier this year, and one this past Friday, and one this upcoming Tuesday. I brought this up to the manager recently by email, and she referenced it at a managers' meeting. I noticed on the roster the staff herself changed it to "sick leave". Hopefully moving forward she'll know what people are observing from her. And will be less likely to take "sick leave" instead of just "med appt" (and hoping no one questions her). I essentially said to the manager as a senior person, she has AMPLE vacation and lieu day time (over 2 months combined annually). And by taking 7 of these "med appts" (that no one else is taking and she is NOT sick) ... that's essentially another 1.5 weeks off work with pay.
Fuck that.
Thanks fam'.
Self-editing and correction ... well said.
Hell ... I've had a few English teachers in my high school and college years who graded the fuck out of us. It was weird being English first language, and getting Cs and C+s for some of my grades, like what the fuck?
And regarding work ... one of my oncall staff (early-30s) said it best. Essentially "you are NOT too busy" ... if you are multi-tasking ... start that, but COME BACK TO IT later. Leave yourself a reminder to do so. Don't say you were too busy, because you were not and we have plenty of down time.
I have worked in environments with 3 - 5 times the workload for less pay, and people didn't pull that bullshit excuse.
Her time management is straight trash.
Thank you.
Exactly ... when I emailed the manager previously I pointed out the exact errors missed on ALL of the med deliveries in Feb, June, and August. And same for all the times she has booked off for "med appts".
I think with her she hasn't improved her skills over the decades, and has essentially regressed so she's just hoping to coast another 5 - 10 years and then retire. She does not have the drive, initiative or knowledge to move on and find another position in or outside of the organization.
But fuck ... if this isn't enough for discipline, what is? I know in the past she has had to talk with the admin at head office, and do some in-service stuff surrounding medication knowledge. But still ... when does a suspension or termination take place?
And another coworker (in his 50s) at another location made a good point. The challenging thing in our field with minimal job positions is people hold onto their positions for ages. So EVEN IF you have lots of people on your casual / aux' list ... they don't stay around forever. They have other job commitments at other locations, and eventually find PT or FT work. So when people with questionable skill sets don't move on ... you lose out on those people in their 20s and 30s who are eager to land gainful, permanent employment, and that sucks.
'Cuz I've seen the skill sets some of them have, and even at half her age ... they are way more qualified.
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Nah, you're good. AI isn't there yet. Some people use it to write books, but it produces terrible books. While AI understands the rules of grammar and sentence structure, does it fully understand what the words mean or the bigger picture beyond a few sentences? Probably not.
There's a lot of confusion about what these Large Language Models are capable of. We can't prompt Chat GPT to write a New York Times Best Seller or a billion-dollar grossing movie. It can only imitate things from the training data. You see articles about how the new model can solve super-tough PHD problems. Well, yeah, OpenAI scraped the entire internet. There's a high chance those questions and answers are part of its training data. Ask it to solve the homeless problem in California like Governor Newsom wants, and it'll spit out some generic answer.
Writers aren't going to lose opportunities because AI can outwrite them, it will be the result of people thinking they can get the job done cheaper and faster. Everyone pretends problems like hallucinations and bias have been solved. I saw an interview with an AI expert, and he said removing bias was impossible.
There will always be an audience for art created by humans. I think live events like concerts, comedy clubs, theater, et will become more popular in the coming years.
So, the real threat in our immediate future isn't AI, it's greed and stupidity.
Agreed. And I heard a podcaster break it down recently re: AI / podcasting.
Saying the conversational flow, going off on tangents, and spontaneous jokes or double entendres in humor ... those are still done best by real people in the moment.
@godofwine @raze @Helico-pterFunk @largebillsonlyplease
I'm gonna post a podcast about this from a dude who knows the inner workings and said they already THERE with AI what we seeing is just the tip of the iceberg
This is already near doomsday level.
We just ain't privy yet
I'm gonna post a podcast about this from a dude who knows the inner workings and said they already THERE with AI what we seeing is just the tip of the iceberg
This is already near doomsday level.
We just ain't privy yet
Really good episode featuring the guys who wrote They Cloned Tyrone, Creed II, Space Jam and Transformers: Rise of the Beasts.
They talk about getting repped, pitching scripts, outlining, etc.
@playahaitian @keone @PsiBorg @largebillsonlyplease @Mello Mello @Helico-pterFunk @Costanza @godofwine
They talk about getting repped, pitching scripts, outlining, etc.
@playahaitian @keone @PsiBorg @largebillsonlyplease @Mello Mello @Helico-pterFunk @Costanza @godofwine
Thanks @raze
Props to those guys. They have a good list of credits already, and both are still young judging from the screencap.
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