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Two things:
1- DC's properties ARE good, especially some of their second tier characters. For the last decade, DC has been putting out much better comics than Marvel, while Marvel spanks DC when it comes to movies.
2- How would you feel about Norman Reedus in a Ghost Rider reboot? It's been brought up recently by fans of The Walking Dead, and is apparently growing legs with certain execs......
I could see it - but I think Marvel already has Ghost Rider slated for production on Netflix with Moon Knight & Blade
http://screenrant.com/moon-knight-blade-ghost-rider-marvel-netflix/
Reedus would be a good casting - but -
Ghost Rider Confirmed For Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4
http://screenrant.com/agents-of-shield-ghost-rider-confirmed
 

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GR on Netflix won't interfere with GR on AoS, right? A movie is still possible.........
they haven't made the relationship between Netflix & TV & movies...
It would be great if they use Dr Strange to introduce and explain multiple realities to the continuity
 

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they haven't made the relationship between Netflix & TV & movies...
It would be great if they use Dr Strange to introduce and explain multiple realities to the continuity
Stop Making Sense!! :eek2:

Seriously, most movie companies want/need that separation. Imagine if all storylines had to make sense across all platforms? That's asking a lot. I was just factoring in the 'separate worlds' concept when I considered the Reedus probability. Truth is, once NetFlix works their magic, I may not care if there's a GR movie.
DD is better than a lot of these movies on a TV budget. Hilarious.
 

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You may be right, but Father Time is undefeated. Glenn Close doesn't get those calls like she used to. Neither does Kurt Russell. Sir Hopkins has always worked because: A- He's a better talent than the aforementioned two, and B- he's never been afraid to work outside of his comfort zone when it comes to roles. Close and Russell watched Hopkins get rave reviews from critics and fans alike, realizing that one could still be taken seriously in other roles after doing a 'comic book' movie.
Kinda like crossing the bridge in that Monty Python movie...
"That's EASY!" :)
No doubt but Kurt Russell IS a living comic character from his Walt Disney origin flicks to Snake Pliskin, kat in The Thing to parodies of himself with his wife and as JackRyan in LittleChina.....
If this happened yrs ago, he'd be Quill.
Who else better fit for the Living Planet than the LivingComicbook character
 

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Well Suicide Squad is still making money so DC may make it after all.

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'Suicide Squad' Keeps Breaking Box Office Records

Suicide Squad screened for critics last Tuesday and disaster seemed more or less imminent. It got savaged and the film currently has a 26% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Normally, this type of thing is not the prelude to a movie crushing records left and right, but apparently the squad is even better at making money than it is at angering critics.

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First off, the movie had the best first Monday and Tuesday in theaters in August, which, sure, is one of those overly specific records that only a studio press release loves. But Suicide Squad also earned more on its first Tuesday than Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Age of Ultron, andBatman V. Superman. Keep in mind, this is a movie about a bunch of second-tier Batman villains and a ruthless bureaucrat, not the X-Men.

Also fascinating, especially in the wake of the critical response, are the raw numbers. So far, Suicide Squad has made $326 million in theaters globally, with half that coming from America. For contrast, Batman V. Superman‘s huge opening had only a little more than a third of its box office come from American wallets.

If the trend holds, Suicide Squad will be going into the weekend with $375 million globally in the bank. It’s currently expected to make roughly $50 million this weekend and keep the number one spot at the box office, so don’t be surprised if the squad is back in theaters sooner than we thought.
 

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You may be right, but Father Time is undefeated. Glenn Close doesn't get those calls like she used to. Neither does Kurt Russell. Sir Hopkins has always worked because: A- He's a better talent than the aforementioned two, and B- he's never been afraid to work outside of his comfort zone when it comes to roles. Close and Russell watched Hopkins get rave reviews from critics and fans alike, realizing that one could still be taken seriously in other roles after doing a 'comic book' movie.
Kinda like crossing the bridge in that Monty Python movie...
"That's EASY!" :)

But I can name a ton of others too.

Check that doctor strange cast listing...

And as we have seen with DC it ain't THAT easy.
 

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:yes:

'Suicide Squad' Keeps Breaking Box Office Records

Suicide Squad screened for critics last Tuesday and disaster seemed more or less imminent. It got savaged and the film currently has a 26% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Normally, this type of thing is not the prelude to a movie crushing records left and right, but apparently the squad is even better at making money than it is at angering critics.

spaceball.gif

First off, the movie had the best first Monday and Tuesday in theaters in August, which, sure, is one of those overly specific records that only a studio press release loves. But Suicide Squad also earned more on its first Tuesday than Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Age of Ultron, andBatman V. Superman. Keep in mind, this is a movie about a bunch of second-tier Batman villains and a ruthless bureaucrat, not the X-Men.

Also fascinating, especially in the wake of the critical response, are the raw numbers. So far, Suicide Squad has made $326 million in theaters globally, with half that coming from America. For contrast, Batman V. Superman‘s huge opening had only a little more than a third of its box office come from American wallets.

If the trend holds, Suicide Squad will be going into the weekend with $375 million globally in the bank. It’s currently expected to make roughly $50 million this weekend and keep the number one spot at the box office, so don’t be surprised if the squad is back in theaters sooner than we thought.

So the question now becomes this...

Do good reviews critical acclaim and fan love even matter anymore?

What incentives do DC have to change?

Unless Marvel wins an Oscars

Which I believe DC has with Ledger for Joker? I'm probably wrong on that but he did get nominated...

What does DC care? They making money. And own ALL their properties and we are constantly talking about them.

Again I think the only thing that hurts is if marvel wins a freaking Oscar...
 

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So the question now becomes this...

Do good reviews critical acclaim and fan love even matter anymore?

What incentives do DC have to change?

Unless Marvel wins an Oscars

Which I believe DC has with Ledger for Joker? I'm probably wrong on that but he did get nominated...

What does DC care? They making money. And own ALL their properties and we are constantly talking about them.

Again I think the only thing that hurts is if marvel wins a freaking Oscar...
they want the billion dollar tent poles... that can't happen without fan love
 

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they want the billion dollar tent poles... that can't happen without fan love

But the haven't had a FLOP

And they damn near have a superhero network with the CW.

I do not think they care.

If they did?

They wouldn't be undermining THEMSELVES.

It is gonna take a true financial failure for them to act right and honestly I don't see one.

Cause Wonder woman will be critic proof too

more so than ghostbusters even.

I think it will be Justice League that is the tipping point

IF that doesn't do the billion?

HEADS will roll...
 
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Also if Fox acts right and gives Marvel a turn?

DC is done.

They will NEVER do that tent pole number.

God forbid Marvel does a movie with the Netflix character!

DC would need to do crisis on infinite earth's with either Spielberg Cameron or the dude who Mad Max to direct.
 

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So the question now becomes this...

Do good reviews critical acclaim and fan love even matter anymore?
Yes and no. Some people are still gonna see for themselves. But I believe that peer to peer opinions and the social media echo chamber plays a HUGE ROLE in the outcome of some theatrical releases in today's world. And that is kind of unfortunate. I told a buddy of mine yesterday that I saw SS last weekend and I asked him if he saw it he said no. Ge told me that he was on the fence about going to see it. I asked him why. He said that he heard that it was not that good. He said that his daughter's friends saw it and told her that it sucked. I shook my head at him and told him that he or she should be the judge of what is good and bad themselves.

What incentives do DC have to change?

Either way they butchered the movie...made it more guardians like and still did not get a Chinese release. They should have just released the hardcore version in the US and lived with the results. But this new formula of fattening up the BluRay release almost backfired for DC big time.

Honestly, I think that timing of the release also played a role with the level of success with this movie. I do not think that it would have done record breaking numbers if it had been released in the Spring.

But on the real, IF IT HAD GOTTEN THAT CHINESE HOOK UP?!?!

DC execs would have been dancing in the streets.


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'Suicide Squad': 4 Reasons Its Box Office Blowout Is Good News


We’ll know soon enough how well Suicide Squad holds up in its second weekend. Conventional wisdom suggests a 60-65% drop, which (amusingly) wouldn’t be too terrible for such a seemingly frontloaded comic book picture. Nonetheless, as the film sits with $326 million worldwide (plus whatever it earned on Wednesday, so probably close to $350m), I wanted to take a moment to acknowledge why it’s still a good thing that Suicide Squad is doing as well as it’s doing. Oh sure, I’m not a fan of the picture, but there still some good lessons to be pulled from its current box office triumph and it’s not just about superb marketing. And now, without further ado…

1. It is a true theatrical moviegoing event.


As so many of this summer’s would-be live-action blockbusters underwhelmed, artistically and financially, much of the water cooler/social media conversation has revolved around the likes of Stranger Things, Game of Thrones, or Pokemon GO, to say nothing of whatever is going on in the real world at a given moment. But Suicide Squad packed the auditoriums over the last week, to the tune of $161 million in the first five days of domestic theatrical play. In an era when theatrical attendance is down, and we all claim that young people don’t go to the movies anymore, Suicide Squad scored a massive debut primarily on the backs of the under-35 set which made up 76% of the opening weekend.

2. It showed the appeal of “new-to-cinema” characters.


Yes, Warner Bros./Time Warner Inc. wasn’t shy about using Jared Leto’s Joker and Ben Affleck’s Batman as a prime marketing tool to sell the supervillain team-up movie. But their ace-in-the-hole was Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn. Ms. Quinn is the most popular female comic book character around, and she has been for much of her twenty-three-year existence. This was a film filled with characters like Deadshot, Killer Croc, Harley Quinn, Captain Boomerang, and The Enchantress who had never been in a movie before. Sure, it was neat to see another version of The Joker, but the trump card was finally getting our first Harley Quinn.


We are going to see a lot of franchises that are remakes/reboots/revamps of older franchises over the next few years, with old characters recast or replaced. So it’s important to point out when a film succeeds partially because it offered us an iconic character on the big screen for the first time rather than for the second or sixth time. We should take a moment to remember the marketing might of being able to offer the first big screen glimpse of an iconic character from an iconic property. A big part of Suicide Squad‘s success can be pinned on the sheer number of characters like Harley Quinn and Deadshot that we got to see onscreen for the first time last weekend.

3. It was a diverse comic book movie that played to diverse crowds.


The opening night audience for Suicide Squad was 41% African-American and Hispanic. That’s a telling detail for a film that, for all intents-and-purposes, was a $175 million+ blockbuster headlined by a black man (Will Smith’s Deadshot), a white woman (Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn) and a black woman (Viola Davis’s Amanda Waller). Yes, the fourth lead is Joel Kinnaman’s Rick Flag, but three of the leads, as well as the breakout supporting performance (Jay Hernandez as El Diablo) and both main villains (Cara Delevingne’s Enchantress and Alain Chanoine as Incubus) were not white dudes.

We can hem and haw about the quality of those characters (see also: Adam Beach’s Slipknot, Karen Fukuhara’s Katana and Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje’s Killer Croc), but this was a major smash hit where nine of the fourteen main characters were not Caucasian males. It’s a little sad that this should be noteworthy in 2016, but it bears a note nonetheless and positions Suicide Squad as less DC’s Guardians of the Galaxy and more DC’s Fast and the Furious. And if the film has slightly longer legs than we might otherwise expect from the frontloaded weekend and recent DC history, I’d argue that its explicitly diverse cast will be one reason why.

4. Success breeds success for the DC Films franchise.


While the filmmakers and producers are putting on a positive face against the withering initial reviews, they weren’t any happier with the critical reception than we critics were. The “for the fans” thing is good spin, even if it contradicts decades of super-nitpicky comic book fans (whereby a C+ Spider-Man 3 is the worst movie ever). Yet, I imagine we will still see some changes along the line, especially with Geoff Johns allegedly taking over from here-on-out. For those of us who want an artistically successful DC Films universe, we’re only going to get that if these films keep doing relatively well.

A Batman v Superman or Suicide Squad that outright bombed would have put the kibosh on the whole thing or doomed us to just another round of Batman movies. But these films are huge business, and yes I would argue that DC Films is already a brand. If we want that “Harley Quinn and her female friends” spin-off or that Green Lantern Corps movie, the box office blowout success of these initial chapters is only good news. The films will only get better if the franchise lives long enough to right itself. Besides, if the films are going to have massive opening weekends anyway, one might presume less pressure to compromise artistically in pursuit of would-be playability.
 
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But the haven't had a FLOP

And the damn near have a superhero net work with the CW.

I do not think they care.

If they did they wouldn't be undermining THEMSELVES.

It is gonna take a true financial failure for them to act right and honestly u don't see one.

Cause Wonder woman will be critic proof too more so than ghostbusters even.

I think it will justice League that is the tipping point

IF that doesn't do the billion?

HEads will roll...
ghostbusters lost money
Wonder Woman is a maybe.... it should make money but if fans aren't happy with it - it will be under 600
If the Justice League is made truly as a Snyder film it won't get near a billion
WB lost $$ on BvS the investors and financials got some money but studio didn't make anything on the theatrical....
SS might do ok but if it fails to reach 500 to 600 WB will have some explaining to do... some execs got to pay for this years numbers - if the board shakes it up I'm not sure how any project moves forward to production other than Batman - WW is finished JL is filming now so they will be released- maybe Aquaman if Wan insists on doing it, but that'll only happen to keep him happy
 

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Also if Fox acts right and gives Marvel a turn?

DC is done.

They will NEVER do that tent pole number.

God forbid Marvel does a movie with the Netflix character!

DC would need to do crisis on infinite earth's with either Spielberg Cameron or the dude who Mad Max to direct.
nah - all they have to do is tell a good story
let Affleck do a Batman movie based on the long halloween :itsawrap:

Do a Green Lantern movie removed from earth - fantasy sci-fi / intergalactic detective story

Shazam - beg Spielberg or Zemekis to direct or exec produce, start story on establishing Adam - like the Mummy - then come present day and intro Billy...

The Demon, Booster Gold, Red Tornado, Raven, etc etc...
I swear the execs are incompetent
 
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600 what? Rupees? Surely not dollars. WW dont have a shot in HELL at nearing $600. :lol:
if they can't sell that movie they are morons

Wonder Woman is the chick girls want to be and guys want to fuck/ tame /conquer - a cool bad ass that makes her own rules and fights for the defenseless... target active girls teens women - pop stars sow her into pop culture, cross market with COOL FUN products and services not fucking insurance like Ghostbusters
 

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if they can't sell that movie they are morons

Wonder Woman is the chick girls want to be and guys want to fuck/ tame /conquer - a cool bad ass that makes her own rules and fights for the defenseless... target active girls teens women - pop stars sow her into pop culture, cross market with COOL FUN products and services not fucking insurance like Ghostbusters
And i didnt realize this would be a summer 17 release.. Thought it was between november and march. Not sure thats a good idea. I dont see it doing above $400... at very best.
 

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Also if Fox acts right and gives Marvel a turn?

DC is done.

Suicide Squad shows why Marvel’s movie universe works and DC’s does not
Updated by Peter Suderman on August 10, 2016, 1:30 p.m. ET


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Suicide Squad is a dull, inept mess — a charmless and incoherent muddle of a film that left me rooting only for it to end. But it’s more than just a bad movie. It’s a bad sign for the entire DC Comics movie universe



Related Review: Suicide Squad is worse than Batman v Superman. No, we didn't think it was possible either.

Warner Brothers, which owns DC Comics and the rights to its characters, has made no secret of its desire to develop a sprawling superhero franchise along the lines of theMarvel Cinematic Universe. DC and Marvel have historically been rivals, and like Marvel, Warner Brothers has announced a slate of interconnected films and release datesrunning all the way through the end of the decade.

The directors of the DC films have played up the cinematic rivalry, with Batman v Superman director Zack Snyder dismissing Marvel films as "flavor of the week" andSuicide Squad director David Ayer joining the crowd in a chant of "fuck Marvel" at an early screening of the film. (He later apologized.)



Related Suicide Squad's harsh reviews show how hard it is to make a good comic into a good movie

There’s a clear contrast between the two franchises and their approaches to superhero films, but not one that DC should be courting. Suicide Squad is the third film in the DC extended universe, and it arrives less than six months after Snyder’s superhero slugfest, which was also poorly received. Taken together, the two films reveal the stunning capability gap between Marvel and DC in terms of how they have approached building their respective mega-franchises.

Unlike the Marvel movies, the DC films barely make an effort to stay true to their comic-book origins
The most obvious difference between the Marvel and DC movie universes is the pace of the rollout. Marvel built its franchise much more slowly, starting with several movies focused strictly on individual characters before bringing them all together: The studio launched the MCU with Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk in 2008, followed up with standalone films for Captain America and Thor in 2011, and waited until 2012, four years after the first film in the universe, to bring them all together in The Avengers.

The crossover event, in other words, was the culmination of several movies’ worth of stories and several years' worth of successful films. That meant audiences already knew the characters, and Marvel already knew what worked in their movies and what didn’t.



Related How Marvel built such an impressive movie universe

The DC universe, in contrast, launched with Man of Steel in 2013, and then immediately rushed toward a crossover film with Batman v Superman, followed by a team-based film featuring a group of villain characters mostly unknown to the general public. Instead of building toward a big event, DC started with a big event that wasn’t properly set up — and then followed up by attempting to introduce a slew of new characters all at once, in a single film.

Marvel, of course, built its universe around lesser known properties, too — Iron Man and Captain America were considered B-list characters when their films first came out. But the Marvel movies faithfully captured the spirit of those characters and the fun and adventurous vibe of the Marvel Comics world. They felt like comics come to life.

THE DC UNIVERSE FILMS WE’VE SEEN SO FAR HAVE COME ACROSS LIKE CHALLENGES TO THEIR SOURCE MATERIAL — AND AT TIMES HAVE SEEMED INTENTIONALLY DISRESPECTFUL

This quality has always been a crucial part of the Marvel Comics approach. As producer Kevin Feige, the mastermind who oversees the Marvel movie universe told Deadline Hollywood earlier this year, "We’ve always said if there’s any ‘secret’ it’s respect the source material, understand the source material and then, any adaptation you make from the source material should be done only to enhance whatever the original pure spirit of the source material was."


The trio of DC universe films we’ve seen so far have come across more like challenges to their source material — and at times have seemed intentionally disrespectful.

The shared idea that connects the films is the potential consequences of god-like super-people: The conflict in Batman v Superman was sparked by the massive urban destruction caused by the final battle in Man of Steel, andthe team in Suicide Squad is put together by a government agent who fears what might happen if an evil Superman who doesn’t share America’s values ever arrives. In other words, these movies are literally driven by fear and terror of superheroes.

And the heroes they give us are rather fearsome: In massive deviations from comic book lore, both Superman and Batman murder people. Batman’s casual approach to killing, in particular, goes against essentially everything the character has stood for. The Suicide Squad is a team full of villains, led by a crack-shot assassin that the movie attempts to humanize in a handful of laughable scenes where he’s shown as loving his school-aged daughter.

There are moments of visual fidelity in both Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad;the former recreates panels from Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns, and the latterbriefly stages a version of the cover to the first issue of Batman: Harley Quinn. But visual fidelity is not the same as tonal fidelity or faithfulness of spirit: Unlike the Marvel movies, which so effortlessly capture the essential sensibility of the Marvel’s printed comics, none of the characters in any of the DC films is a truly faithful rendering of his or her comic-book persona.

DC has a serious problem when it comes to character introductions
Both Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman, meanwhile, are beset by truly muddled stories and narrative structures. Batman v Superman veers off into an incredibly confusing Bruce Wayne fever dream that doesn’t make sense even if you are enough of a comic book obsessive to recognize the swarm of parademons it features, while Suicide Squad stutters through an endless stream of mostly useless, occasionally confusing flashbacks, as if the order of scenes in the movie was determined by a card shuffle.

Marvel has occasionally had issues with narrative logic as well — the semi-inexplicable sequence from Age of Ultron in which Thor goes into a cave to hallucinate about future Marvel movies being the prime example — but has generally maintained a baseline level of narrative cohesion. The stories don’t always make perfect sense, but they are exceedingly straightforward and easy to follow.

THE ESSENTIAL PROBLEM WITH SUICIDE SQUADAND WITH THE DC MOVIE UNIVERSE SO FAR IS THAT IT DOESN’T UNDERSTAND OR DOESN’T CARE ABOUT ITS CHARACTERS

Even the superhero cameos in this year’s DC movies barely make sense. Both Batman and the Flash appear in Suicide Squad, but they don’t serve any purpose except to advertise that they exist in this world. They don’t tell us anything about the characters or advance the plot. Wonder Woman’s more-of-a-cameo-appearance in Batman v Superman suffers from the same problem: She’s a cipher with nothing to do.


Marvel, in contrast, has made its many crossover cameos into miniature art forms. Thor: The Dark World is one of Marvel’s lesser films, but it contains a great bit in which the villainous Loki briefly appears as Captain America; It’s a clever gag that reveals Loki’s trickster personality while having some fun with Cap’s ultra-heroic persona.

And that brings us to the DC Universe’s biggest problem: Every DC movie so far is flat-out terrible at introducing its characters. For early franchise-builders, that is by far the most important task: Show us who the characters are, why they matter, and why we should care. Man of Steel, the best of the bunch, presents Superman as a fearsome alien god-force, distant and difficult to relate to, and barely defines its supporting characters.

Batman v Superman introduces the Justice League by showing Bruce Wayne clicking on some stolen video files: a security-cam clip of the Flash, a short underwater video of Aquaman, a home-movie diary that provides a little bit of background on Cyborg. But we don’t see the characters interacting with each other or with their worlds, or making choices that illustrate their personalities. We don’t get a sense of their essential qualities and characteristics. They show up, barely, because DC has already ordered a Justice League movie, and Batman v Superman needs to remind viewers that it’s coming.

The same goes for the Joker in Suicide Squad: There’s a brief flashback to a backstory that suggests a more interesting film than any of the ones DC has made so far, but mostly the character feels adrift and poorly defined. He’s only there to advertise his presence in the DC universe.

That’s a consistent problem for DC’s movies. At best, they assume you already know who its most prominent characters — Superman and Batman and Lex Luthor and the Joker and various other supporting players — are, and will respond accordingly. The DC movies don’t do the necessary work to define, or even redefine, those characters.

To be clear, this isn't an inherent problem with the material. Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy did a masterful job of setting up its iconic characters: The bank heist that opensThe Dark Knight is a thrilling setpiece that also serves as a statement of purpose for both the Joker and the movie. The Justice League Unlimited cartoon series introduced dozens of heroes and villains, many of them fairly obscure, in compact 22-minutes episodes that captured their characters better than any of the DC universe's movies so far.

Meanwhile, Marvel’s approach is to always require its heroes to act out their essential characteristics. There is no scene in which Captain America fails to demonstrate his strength and honor and decency, no sequence in which Iron Man does not show off how smart and stylish and witty he is, no moment in which the Hulk does not come across as a genius torn by powerful inner conflict. Marvel knows exactly what makes these characters work, what makes them who they are, what viewers want from them — and ensures that every single scene reflects this accordingly.

The essential problem with Suicide Squad and with the DC movie universe so far is that it doesn’t understand or doesn’t care about its characters and what makes them the sort of beloved pop culture icons that movie studios can build multibillion dollar franchises around: DC’s movies take their characters — and their viewers — for granted.
 

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nah - all they have to do is tell a good story
let Affleck do a Batman movie based on the long halloween :itsawrap:

Do a Green Lantern movie removed from earth - fantasy sci-fi / intergalactic detective story

Shazam - beg Spielberg or Zemekis to direct or exec produce, start story on establishing Adam - like the Mummy - then come present day and intro Billy...

The Demon, Booster Gold, Red Tornado, Raven, etc etc...
I swear the execs are incompetent


Pssssst....

DC executives

This is the greatest movie schedule never told.

Pay this man.

Now.
 

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But I can name a ton of others too.

Check that doctor strange cast listing...

And as we have seen with DC it ain't THAT easy.
Correct, I just used those two actors as examples.
Success breeds change.
There are a few A-listers who've turned down Marvel roles and have lived to regret it.
Regarding DC: the movie issues are a result of comic people in positions of power, that's all. Marvel's always had them, (Feige) and DC just got one in Geoff Johns. The next few years will tell.
 

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peace

No doubt but Kurt Russell IS a living comic character from his Walt Disney origin flicks to Snake Pliskin, kat in The Thing to parodies of himself with his wife and as JackRyan in LittleChina.....
If this happened yrs ago, he'd be Quill.
Who else better fit for the Living Planet than the LivingComicbook character
Props to the Escape from NY cast & crew. Without them, my favorite MGS games wouldn't look the same. Russell would've made a great Quill, too. I am a bit panicked by how Ego will be used in the movie, tho. They're supposedly deviating from canon. As DC can attest, this is a recipe for disaster.
 

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Correct, I just used those two actors as examples.
Success breeds change.
There are a few A-listers who've turned down Marvel roles and have lived to regret it.
Regarding DC: the movie issues are a result of comic people in positions of power, that's all. Marvel's always had them, (Feige) and DC just got one in Geoff Johns. The next few years will tell.

Great point...

and the funny thing is you COULD argue the DC Comics Trinity is the MOST FAMOUS and most well known characters and origins in the WORLD.

the stories tell themselves.

Its ALL there.

You could have done The Dark Knight returns like a Frank Miller movie and just RECREATE every panel EXACTLY and make a billion dollars.

I just don't get it.

You know something I just realized?

Ya'll remember when EVERY SINGLE COMIC BOOK went DARK?

I'm talking Ennis' Punisher, Dark Knight, Lobo etc?

Spider-man had a black suit, Superman had long hair, Sabretooth had his own comic everything was dark and ultra violent?

and then it damn near crippled the comic book industry?

Its like DC/WB is STUCK there NOW.

Just on this ultra dark ultra scrawl ultra gritty urban scrawl vibe.

Cause the funny thing is Avengers DESTROYED NYC...no one said sh*t.

Superman destroys Metropolis...people LOSE THEY COLLECTIVE SH*T

You know why?

Superman don't do that.

If DC was TRUE to its characters? It wouldn't have all these issues.
 

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Patrick Wilson to Play the Evil Ocean Master in DC's Aquaman
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The Justice League solo movie Aquaman has found its Ocean Master. According to Deadline, Patrick Wilson will join the DC film universe as Aquaman’s half-brother, a super-villain known as Orm Marius when he’s not going by the considerably more powerful Ocean Master handle, and who is one of the title character’s greatest foes. The sibling rivalry stems from the fact that both Marius and Aquaman seek dominion over Atlantis, but since Marius is a bad man, that’s a very bad thing. This movie has a pretty high start value, considering it stars Jason Momoa as a guy who spends a lot of time in the sea, which means it presumably has a lot of shirtless Jason Momoa. So, Aquaman would be appointment viewing even if were a silent movie with no story, but fortunately it won’t be either of these things. Now we’ve got a villain and everything. And shirtless Jason Momoa. October 5, 2018 is going to be a good day.

http://deadline.com/2016/12/patrick...ean-master-dc-villain-jason-momoa-1201869055/
 

twillz1

The Voice of Reason
BGOL Investor
But the haven't had a FLOP

And the damn near have a superhero net work with the CW.

I do not think they care.

If they did they wouldn't be undermining THEMSELVES.

It is gonna take a true financial failure for them to act right and honestly u don't see one.

Cause Wonder woman will be critic proof too more so than ghostbusters even.

I think it will Justice League that is the tipping point

IF that doesn't do the billion?

Heads will roll...

Here, in 2018, we all see how truly right you were. Prescient.

:bravo::bravo::bravo::bravo::bravo:
 
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