Yeah, and fans should stop going to games. Send a message by hurting their pockets. But fans don't listen and will still go to games to complain.Muthafuckas don't love the game like they use too. They just in it for the money and the bitches.
Baseball.........Anybody still interested?
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Yo crazy JUST had this argument a few hours ago with a bunch of youth baseball coaches at bar
Damn, I wondered how it went.
It was...interesting.
Sports right now to me is like a religion
And if it is?
It's the biggest one in America
A lot of people take sports seriously.
I can agree with that because it is indeed like a religion.
People will always talk about sports no matter how young or old they are.
Bro add the MONEY, power, influence, legal gambling, ticket prices, sports parents trying to get their kids unnecessary Tommy John, the abuse and molestation all over on every level, etc etc
That's a damn major religion status.
Let me add, podcast and CTE!
That was dope having Ice Cube perform before the game.
I saw that. I wonder if that's the same arm he had surgery on.
The crowd went dead silent almost!
THIS
Satchel Paige was how old when he pitched his last game? 59....
Analytics really have fucked up the game....
Ramblings on getting pitchers to go deeper into games
Posted on :May 16, 2024By :Brian JouraPosted in :Perspectives
Everyone wants starters to pitch deeper into games. Recently, The Athletic had three articles on this very topic. Full disclosure: I didn’t read all of the pieces and only skimmed the ones that were opened. Why? Because it’s my belief that we don’t need to invent silly rules to incentivize teams to do what they should be doing anyway. And that’s to stop treating every pitcher like they are exactly the same and to stop believing that keeping under 100 pitches will magically keep pitchers healthy.
To me, the biggest issue is that young arms do need to be protected. But how do you learn to pitch deeper into games if you’re not allowed to do that early in your career? Perhaps one thing to keep in mind is that not everything needs to be learned in actual game situations. Think of how many things that pitchers do to improve themselves outside of competitive situations.
If a pitcher is tipping his pitches – does he develop the cure during a game?
If a pitcher wants to add a new pitch – does he do that during a game first?
If a pitcher wants to improve his pickoff throw – does he just make up a new move on the spot?
Now, you can say those are all things that can be successfully worked on in side sessions and it’s a completely different thing with going deeper into games. And that’s true. But all teams – everyone, really – need to ask how much of not going deeper into games is physical and how much is mental. Perhaps it’s more physical then mental. It might even be substantially more physical than mental. But it’s my opinion that it’s at least part mental when it comes to pitchers.
And there should be little doubt that the mental aspect is huge among coaches, managers, front office types and even owners.
What if tomorrow, all non-players among an organization decided they were going to do their part to allow veteran pitches – say anyone with at least one full year of MLB service time – to go deeper into games. What would they do?
Hopefully, with a consistent message, they would tell the players this. Hopefully, they would come up with a plan to incrementally increase the workload. If you have a pitcher used to throwing 90 pitches, you can’t tell him the next day to throw 120 and expect great results. Have a plan, communicate the plan and stick to the plan.
And you can’t expect immediate results. What’s the average number of pitches per game for a SP? There are probably just a handful of people who know that answer off the top of their head and don’t count me as one. But if forced to guess, my answer would be in the low 80s. If we changed our mentality, alerted the players to what the new goals were and were consistent in all facets – shouldn’t we be able to get that up to the high 80s?
Christian Scott doesn’t have a full season in MLB under his belt, so you would still use current 21st Century pitch count limits with him. But everyone else in the rotation should be looked at as pitchers who can give more when conditions are right. If a pitcher is getting knocked around, you don’t want to keep trotting him out there. But if he’s cruising, you don’t want to remove him just because he’s approaching 95 pitches.
On Monday, Sean Manaea retired the last seven batters he faced. He had thrown exactly 100 pitches at that point so no one expected him to return to the mound. But what if instead of relying on the blunt tool of counting pitches, we looked at how he was performing and how he felt? It’s certainly possible that Manaea was gassed at that point and sending him to the mound would have been a bad idea. But it’s also possible that he felt fine and could have pitched another inning. Or two.
Pitchers are never going to go deeper into games unless there exists a culture which allows them to do it.
And, sure, you can roll your eyes with the use of a buzzword like culture. But there needs to be that culture, that mindset and that training to allow longer and deeper starts to happen. You can’t just wish it into existence.
No matter what limits or safeguards are placed on them, pitchers are going to get hurt. All of these things that teams have tried to do to keep pitchers healthy haven’t worked. Instead of looking for the next restriction to place on pitchers, teams should be looking for how they can maximize the output of their pitchers, without running them into the ground.
There has to be a middle ground between best practices and obscene demands. Best practices would be to throw as little as possible with as much rest as possible between starts. There are many examples of obscene demands, including short rest and consistent outings with 150 or more pitches. Allowing a pitcher in the right circumstances to throw 125 pitches should not be viewed as a crime against nature.
And there’s the elephant in the room about asking pitchers to give max effort at all times. Maybe creating that monster means that all pitchers who reached the majors with that mindset are a lost cause. Perhaps teams can go back to selecting pitchers based on their ability to pitch and wait to chase velocity until they reach the upper levels of the minors.
This man works way too quick
Gotdamn!!! He made this video, including graphics, quick as hell!!!
We are going to have to have a serious talk about post season Aaron Judge
Even if he is hurt, it doesn’t matter because he wasn’t doing shit in the WS anyways.
Freeman and Taoscar stepped up and this Yankee team is not beating them 4 out of 5.
Why it could be a lifetime until there's another World Series like this one
This year’s Dodgers-Yankees matchup is rare enough on its own, but several other key factors make this a once-in-a-lifetime Fall Classic.
www.nbcnews.com
Shohei Ohtani injury update: Dodgers star dislocates shoulder in World Series
Shohei Ohtani appeared to injure himself while sliding into second base on a failed steal attempt.
www.usatoday.com
Disgusting how much he disappeared in the playoffs.
