BATWOMAN Discussion Thread.. Javicia Leslie is new Batwoman (Update: Luke Fox is BatWing 6/8/2021) Bring on MORE Assorted White TEARS!!

playahaitian

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I’m trying to figure out the backlash on this...

batwoman has always been gay in the comic books...

And it’s clear that the idiots at DC aren’t ever going to let someone do a proper Batman show..
even though they will let you do everything but Batman.. including the butler..

Personally I take more issue with Ruby Rose as batwoman. The chick can’t act for shit..

On a side note...

I think it would have been a smarter idea to have a similar premise but to have Barbara Gordon as Batgirl... it would be more interesting to see Barbara trying to defend Gotham without BRUCE or dick Grayson and then lead up to like the 3rd season where we have a killing joke plot line.... turning Barbara into Oracle ..

Then you can bring in Batwoman... to take Barbara place.

Bam..

That’s like 8 seasons right there.

Agreed

Image Joss doing a Batgirl tv series?

And he can use the full DC rogues?

But I think having Nightwing would actually be dope on there. He could be in Bludhaven.
 

Race Harley

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I’m trying to figure out the backlash on this...

batwoman has always been gay in the comic books...

And it’s clear that the idiots at DC aren’t ever going to let someone do a proper Batman show..
even though they will let you do everything but Batman.. including the butler..

Personally I take more issue with Ruby Rose as batwoman. The chick can’t act for shit..

On a side note...

I think it would have been a smarter idea to have a similar premise but to have Barbara Gordon as Batgirl... it would be more interesting to see Barbara trying to defend Gotham without BRUCE or dick Grayson and then lead up to like the 3rd season where we have a killing joke plot line.... turning Barbara into Oracle ..

Then you can bring in Batwoman... to take Barbara place.

Bam..

That’s like 8 seasons right there.

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This is what I imagined you looked like in my mind's eye!

:lol::roflmao3::roflmao2::roflmao:
 

playahaitian

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It’s accurate....

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Trailer also looks to follow Her background from the comics..

EXACTLY

we getting a little out of hand now.

I understand a good or bad trailer

Maybe even hating on a weak premise.

But hating on a character because they gay and BEEN gay for over 10 years?

Cmon now

This speaks to a larger issue.

This current audience is spoiled as f*ck.

Real long time comic fans are living in a damn nirvana

We NEVER thought all these shows and movies would ever be possible

They fact that we even have enough content to COMPLAIN ABOUT?

You don't like a gay superhero show?

Don't watch it.

Especially when the character BEEN GAY!

They aint make luke cage white.

This is an accurate interpretation of the character period.

Now i cannot vouch for quality

But if the trailer already pisses you off?

Then don't watch don't go in the threads.

Easy.

Cause hate watching in this day and age don't make sense.

Sidebar...

I'm not familiar with this actress but I've heard only negative things. I didn't want this show or think its gonna work.

And yeah as a parent i don't feel comfortable watching shows with too much LGBTQ or sexual content or violence with my kids.

But at the same time to HIDE that stuff ain't healthy either.

But we gotta have shows FOR EVERYONE.

Look many of y'all aint ever watch friends or Seinfeld cause they were "white" shows

In my old age i try my best not to do that in tv music books movies etc.

Everything aint for everybody.
 

playahaitian

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One more thing...

Many of these shows on cw you guys still watch and hate

Are more family or all inclusive.

So i grade them all on a curve

They can't be titans or doom patrol

But having "mixed" casts aint ever gonna change.

Not since LOST.

so there will ALWAYS be a black person asian person gay person on a show somewhere FOREVER.

You saw even in Endgame they laying the foundation for a gay hero.
 

ViCiouS

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I think it would have been a smarter idea to have a similar premise but to have Barbara Gordon as Batgirl... it would be more interesting to see Barbara trying to defend Gotham without BRUCE or dick Grayson and then lead up to like the 3rd season where we have a killing joke plot line.... turning Barbara into Oracle ..

Then you can bring in Batwoman... to take Barbara place.

Bam..

That’s like 8 seasons right there.
you actually put thought into it...and sounds like a good story there

WB is just shit - especially TV - the reason for no Barbara Gordon? Birds of Prey is still in development

the reason for the backlash really has nothing to do with lesbian angle, shit is low hanging fruit
The lead actress can't act and can't fight / move
production value is generic crap
dialogue in trailer is short bus worthy
all evidence points to no imagination and minimum budgets

in contrast - Amazon just did a Hanna series -first thing you can see is that there is a priority on physical training, stunts and fight choreography... There is no evidence of that in the Bat Bitch trailer

Flashback: No one would have taken KickAss seriously as a movie if Chloe Moretz didn't look move and fight like a rigorously trained killer-
Hit Girl had to be real


Arrow worked initially because the star looked and moved like he trained for it
 
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fonzerrillii

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Supergirl is the best Arrowverse show this season. This is easily it's best season.

i've heard the same thing....

eventually I'm going to watch it..

I will say

Even though ARROW had a weaker villain... Overall this Season was one of their best.
 

fonzerrillii

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EXACTLY

we getting a little out of hand now.

I understand a good or bad trailer

Maybe even hating on a weak premise.

But hating on a character because they gay and BEEN gay for over 10 years?

Cmon now

This speaks to a larger issue.

This current audience is spoiled as f*ck.

Real long time comic fans are living in a damn nirvana

We NEVER thought all these shows and movies would ever be possible

They fact that we even have enough content to COMPLAIN ABOUT?

You don't like a gay superhero show?

Don't watch it.

Especially when the character BEEN GAY!

They aint make luke cage white.

This is an accurate interpretation of the character period.

Now i cannot vouch for quality

But if the trailer already pisses you off?

Then don't watch don't go in the threads.

Easy.

Cause hate watching in this day and age don't make sense.

Sidebar...

I'm not familiar with this actress but I've heard only negative things. I didn't want this show or think its gonna work.

And yeah as a parent i don't feel comfortable watching shows with too much LGBTQ or sexual content or violence with my kids.

But at the same time to HIDE that stuff ain't healthy either.

But we gotta have shows FOR EVERYONE.

Look many of y'all aint ever watch friends or Seinfeld cause they were "white" shows

In my old age i try my best not to do that in tv music books movies etc.

Everything aint for everybody.

My man came in here and dropped a fucking BGOL Preamble...

I completely agree with all of this..

We don't have a Mr. Fantastic situation where they took an established Character and made him gay just cause..

BATWOMAN... Been gay. Always.. Been GAY.. and her former lover was a Black chick...

She also takes on the Batwoman Mantle... cause Bruce Wayne disappeared in CRISIS...

So the show seems to be hitting all the beats of the Comic..

Why are people tripping....

We are living in Dream times right now...

Comicbook tv shows are the fucking norm now...

Not the exception..
 

playahaitian

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My man came in here and dropped a fucking BGOL Preamble...

I completely agree with all of this..

We don't have a Mr. Fantastic situation where they took an established Character and made him gay just cause..

BATWOMAN... Been gay. Always.. Been GAY.. and her former lover was a Black chick...

She also takes on the Batwoman Mantle... cause Bruce Wayne disappeared in CRISIS...

So the show seems to be hitting all the beats of the Comic..

Why are people tripping....

We are living in Dream times right now...

Comicbook tv shows are the fucking norm now...

Not the exception..

They got me thinking I'm Bills up in here!!!

Sidebar...

I can't stop watching Lucifer

Shaky start but I'm hooked.

How were they able to get so many quality actors to just come a play for like 1 episode

And it looks EXCELLENT expensive production value.

Damn I'm even lusting after the therapist.
 

playahaitian

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Y'all dudes would hate on Dog Days if it dropped on Amazon tomorrow...

Why another BLACK show showing the man screwing around?

@Drayonis

(I'm trying to talk that sh*t into fruition family!)
 

fonzerrillii

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you actually put thought into it...and sounds like a good story there

WB is just shit - especially TV - the reason for no Barbara Gordon? Birds of Prey is still in development

the reason for the backlash really has nothing to do with lesbian angle, shit is low hanging fruit
The lead actress can't act and can't fight / move
production value is generic crap
dialogue in trailer is short bus worthy
all evidence points to no imagination and minimum budgets

in contrast - Amazon just did a Hanna series -first thing you can see is that there is a priority on physical training, stunts and fight choreography... There is no evidence of that in the Bat Bitch trailer

Flashback: No one would have taken KickAss seriously as a movie if Chloe Moretz didn't look move and fight like a rigorously trained killer-
Hit Girl had to be real


Arrow worked initially because the star looked and moved like he trained for it



Agree with all of this.... except for her ability to fight...

I dont know much about Ruby... but I do know that she trained her ass off for John Wick and XXX..



I'm not worried about her putting in the work like Stephen... to convey a fight scene..

but my problem is that the chick can't act..

There is a reason why she didnt say a word in John Wick.


But I will also say... that even though I fucking loved the First Season of Arrow.. Stephen's acting was horrendous back then. Like it took a minute for us to get where he is now.
 

ViCiouS

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Agree with all of this.... except for her ability to fight...

I dont know much about Ruby... but I do know that she trained her ass off for John Wick and XXX..



I'm not worried about her putting in the work like Stephen... to convey a fight scene..

but my problem is that the chick can't act..

There is a reason why she didnt say a word in John Wick.


But I will also say... that even though I fucking loved the First Season of Arrow.. Stephen's acting was horrendous back then. Like it took a minute for us to get where he is now.

if the stunt teams and choreographer are limited - even Donnie Yen Jackie or Jet Li will look like shit

that clip is the work of a good partner (Keanu) and great choreography making an uncoordinated actor look good - she moves poorly and has a problem with rhythm and keeping the count


this trailer deserves the hate... looks like Scott Buck work

If they knew they were hiring a non acting chick - this is the character they should have came with
Batgirl-Cassandra-Cain-Batman-h0.jpg




Anyway I haven't said this for 2019 yet:

FUCK Berlanti

If there is a god in heaven - James Gunn influences / infuses real work ethic and appreciation for talent to
DC/ WB team and they step up with better showrunners / producers company wide
 
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playahaitian

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Agree with all of this.... except for her ability to fight...

I dont know much about Ruby... but I do know that she trained her ass off for John Wick and XXX..



I'm not worried about her putting in the work like Stephen... to convey a fight scene..

but my problem is that the chick can't act..

There is a reason why she didnt say a word in John Wick.


But I will also say... that even though I fucking loved the First Season of Arrow.. Stephen's acting was horrendous back then. Like it took a minute for us to get where he is now.

if the stunt teams and choreographer are limited - even Donnie Yen Jackie or Jet Li will look like shit

that clip is the work of a good partner (Keanu) and great choreography making an uncoordinated actor look good - she moves poorly and has a problem with rhythm and keeping the count


this trailer deserves the hate... looks like Scott Buck work

If they knew they were hiring a non acting chick - this is the character they should have came with
Batgirl-Cassandra-Cain-Batman-h0.jpg




Anyway I haven't said this for 2019 yet:

FUCK Berlanti

If there is a god in heaven - James Gunn influences / infuses real work ethic and appreciation for talent to
DC/ WB team and they step up with better showrunners / producers company wide

Funny thing?


I actually think Emiko on Arrow would have worked as Batwoman
 

NER0

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They’re already doing lesbian swirling on Black Lightening
So many gays on these super hero shows.. they’re pushing that shit harder than the storyline
I don’t care who they’re fuckin
 

Drayonis

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its weird as fuck so I can see why it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. I enjoy the weirdness, like legion it’s a favorite show to get really high before I watch and just kick back and enjoy the strange

Maybe that's my problem, I don't smoke weed. The show is a terrible mess to me
 

p5ych3

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Supergirl is the best Arrowverse show this season. This is easily it's best season.

i fell off around the time they had the other 3 super females. maybe i just got tired of it.
similar to lost girl. i liked that at the start and just wasn't motivated to watch after a couple seasons.
i'm fighting to go continue watching gotham.
 

Drayonis

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Years...

You KNOW what i meant damnit!!!!

Anyway. I have no problem with the women's gayness. The original character was a lesbian. It's just another show that will follow the CW formula beginning with comedy relief (genius) sidekick. Also, the stupid notion that anybody with some fighting skills can simply become "the replacement Batman" is corny to me.
 
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