BATWOMAN Discussion Thread.. Javicia Leslie is new Batwoman (Update: Luke Fox is BatWing 6/8/2021) Bring on MORE Assorted White TEARS!!

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I'm on Armed and Dangerous....

Man this shit is fucking Amazing....

I have barely watched any of Flash.. cause I'm sick of the we need to preach to Barry shit..

This should be the Flagship arrowverse show now..
 
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I think Diggle is gonna train him ...

he cant jus put on a suit and automatically know how to fight ...:rolleyes:
I also wonder if they pull the Ironman .... super suit I learn to fight shit.

But see we gotta remember

Bruce, Alfred and his dad were grooming him all this time to be a part of the squad

He GOTTA know something!

I don't need him to be a ninja warrior but I also don't want to be completely inept

I would like the tony stark route

He constantly learning and improving his own suit...
 

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I don't know how they do this.... but Diggle has got to always be on somebody's show.

Facts

Remember they created that unique contract with Captain Cold where he was able to be on any Arrowverse show for like a flat rate. Basically he was getting a constant check whether he appeared or not if I'm not mistaken.

They NEED to use Diggle like that

He could be the glue they always wanted.

He could be DC WB agent Coulson and Nick Fury

In fact give him an Argus show like shield but more Strike Back with a comic book twist

He'll bring back Stephen Amell too.

Diggle connects the past present and future.

And helps all the show writers have a useful get out of jail free card with any story line.

I'm just pissed Black Lightning never got to benefit.
 

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I'm on Armed and Dangerous....

Man this shit is fucking Amazing....

I have barely watched any of Flash.. cause I'm shit of the we need to preach to Barry shit..

This should be the Flagship arrowverse show now..
armed and what? is that a show?
 

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Batwoman casts Robin Givens in major season 3 role

Are we in store for the mother of all twists?
By Sydney Bucksbaum
July 06, 2021 at 05:24 PM EDT




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Has Batwoman found Ryan Wilder's long-lost mother?
EW has confirmed that Robin Givens is joining the CW superhero drama in a major role for season 3. She has been cast in the series regular role of Jada Jet, the powerful CEO of Jet Industries who "isn't bossy — she's the boss." Described as "passionate and hard-working," Jada is "a woman who has worked her way through life's ups and downs to climb her way to the top — all while being extremely protective over her impetuous son."
But perhaps the most important part of Jada's character description is the revelation that she has "a deep past that forced her to give up her first-born child." As Batwoman fans know, Ryan (Javicia Leslie) was thrown a huge curveball in the season 2 finale when she learned, thanks to a newly imprisoned Alice (Rachel Skarsten), that her biological mother is actually alive. (Ryan had always believed her mother died in childbirth.)

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It can't be a coincidence that Givens' major new character who has an adult child somewhere out in the world is being introduced at the same that Ryan will be searching for her birth mother. Jada's character description also reveals that she is "a woman with a good heart, but will do whatever it takes to protect her family." Will that protection extend to Ryan if or when Jada and Ryan reunite this season? Or will Jada's "impetuous son" take priority over her (presumptive) long-lost daughter?
Batwoman showrunner Caroline Dries previously told EW that she had plans beginning at the start of season 2 to "expand Ryan's world slowly but surely" with her biological mother. But "it was that delicate dance of trading off leads at the beginning of the season, so we didn't want to overpopulate the show with Ryan's personal world while we were still transitioning to a new Batwoman," Dries said. "Of course, we really wanted to get to know Ryan and use this notion of a biological mother as a point of drama or an obstacle for her moving forward into the next season."

Fans can expect this potential mother of all twists to take center stage when Batwoman returns for season 3. "I did want to explore just that maternal love and what Ryan is missing in her life, or has never experienced fully," Dries said. "She had it with her adoptive mom, but that was ripped away from her. So if you're a child that's been through the foster system your entire life, I think there's always this question mark hovering over you of, 'Where did I come from? Who gave me my looks? Who gave me my interests?' For Ryan, that's something she's going to grapple with — how much does she want to know? — in season 3."
Batwoman star Leslie previously told EW that she "always had a feeling when we started this season that we never addressed Ryan's biological parents and that would always end up being something that gets addressed in a very tricky Gotham way… Now that we know that there is a possibility or maybe just it is the truth that Ryan's mother, her biological mother is still alive, I just am so excited for season 3 because this is just a whole [new] world that we'll be able to enter."
Givens is of course a veteran TV and film actress with many credits to her name. She got her start on ABC's '80s sitcom Head of the Class and also had roles on Diff'rent Strokes, The Cosby Show, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, The Women of Brewster Place, Sparks, and The Game, as well as in films such as Boomerang and Blankman. Most recently she's appeared on Riverdale, Katy Keene, Step Up: High Water, Chuck, and Tyler Perry's House of Payne.
Batwoman season 3 premieres Oct. 13 at 9 p.m. ET/PT on the CW.
 

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Guess we'll also be seeing Penguin,Poison Ivy and Scarecrow next season..or rather impostors and not the genuine articles :rolleyes:
 

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How ‘Batwoman’ Star Wallis Day Re-created Kate Kane
The actor also shares her journey on 'Infinite' and how cutting her hair — against her agent's wishes — ended up being great for her career.

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[This interview contains spoilers for Batwoman.]
In 2012, Wallis Day had her sights set on swimming in the 2012 Summer Olympics until she suddenly shifted gears and never looked back. Since swimming required her to train before and after school for most of her life, Day needed another outlet for her surplus of energy, and that’s when she decided to turn her weekend hobby of acting into her sole focus. Nine years later, Day is enjoying her biggest year to date, as she flanked Chiwetel Ejiofor in Antoine Fuqua’s Infinite, her first major studio movie. She also took the reins of Batwoman‘s Kate Kane after the previous star of the show vacated the role at the conclusion of season one. Instead of mimicking the work of the previous actor, Day rolled up her sleeves and re-created the character from scratch.


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“[Showrunner] Caroline [Dries] just said, ‘Make Kate your own,'” Day tells The Hollywood Reporter. “So I asked for all the scripts, and then I went back to the beginning to analyze Kate. I almost erased what I’d seen of Kate on screen because I analyzed Kate from the words on the page and how I would naturally bring them to life as a character. Kudos to the last actress because, to a certain extent, we found some similarities in Kate’s attributes, for sure. But for me to understand the character and make her more three-dimensional, it was more than just pulling from the character’s description; it was also her nuances and actions.”
At the end of Batwoman season two, Kate Kane finally reunited with her loved ones after surviving a plane crash, as well as a period of captivity that included brainwashing and face replacement. And because Day had done her homework, she was able to convincingly portray the shared history between characters despite not taking part in those season one scenes.
“It was really important for me to not just go on what had been screened in terms of chemistry and relationships, but what had actually been written,” Day explains. “And when I went back and explored the relationships that Kate had with the other characters, I could then understand that dynamic and interpret it in my way. I was able to realize what types of relationships they had, which really helped.”
In a recent conversation with THR, Day also discusses the unusual audition she had for Fuqua and the invaluable lessons she learned from Ejiofor on the Infinite set. She also addresses her future on Batwoman.



So I heard an amazing anecdote about the lengths you went to in order to land representation in the States. Do you mind sharing a version of that story since it might be inspiring to some?
Yeah, of course. I don’t know if it’s inspiring or borderline stalking, but I’ll tell you anyway. (Laughs.) I was a teenager, and I really had no idea how to get into the industry or do what I wanted to do. So I just looked up the people that I love — people whose careers I would love to have — and I found their representation and who their agents were. And the common name was Jim Berkus. So I, in my teenage mind, decided that I needed Jim Berkus to be my agent. (Laughs.) So I bought a plane ticket out to L.A. because he hadn’t responded to any of my emails, and I turned up at UTA and said, “Hi, I have a meeting with Jim Berkus.” And they were like, “Um, no, you don’t.” (Laughs.) So I kept going back, but they wouldn’t see me. They told me to stop coming to UTA and that they wouldn’t take my calls or reply to my emails. So then I took it upon myself to go and give Jim my CV at his house. (Laughs.) And when I turned up at his house, he was like, “Ah, Wallis Day.” And I was like, “Hi, Jim. I’m really sorry. But I really love acting more than anything else in the world, and you’re the person who could make my dreams come true. Would you just sit down and talk to me for 5 minutes?” And he was really lovely, really kind, and he actually gave me 20 minutes of his time. So we went into his house, sat down and had a chat. He was so lovely and overwhelmed, I think, by how much I wanted to work with him. And he wasn’t taking on young clients at that time anymore, but he ended up matching me with my UTA agent. So I went to meet with him and he was like, “Oh, you’re not ready yet to be taken on. Just go back to drama school, do a few things and then we can have a conversation.” So I was obviously heartbroken, but I flew back to London and we kept in touch. And I kept doing self-tapes, and sometimes, he’d put me up for auditions even though it was nothing official. And then one day, I did a self-tape, and he called me and said, “Hey, do you still want UTA representation?” And I was like, “Wait, what?!” And he was like, “Yeah, welcome to the team, baby!” And I was like, “Wait, what?!” So I just started crying my eyes out because it had been such a long process. But, yeah, we all laugh about it now. (Laughs.)
That story should go in a movie, somehow.
Yeah, I don’t know what Jim’s point of view of that would be, but from my point of view, yeah. (Laughs.)
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Antoine Fuqua’s Infinite. Was it a typical audition process or anything but typical?
Oh my goodness. Yeah, I think it was actually anything but typical. I went into the room fully dressed as the character. I was in a suit with high heels, and I went in with an American accent. He auditioned me in London. So I went in, I taped it and I did the scenes with him. And then he looked at me, he smiled, he nodded and he went, “You gonna work this hard on set?” And I said, “Yes, sir, I will.” And he went, “Well, then the job is yours. I’ll see you on set.” And that was it. (Laughs.)



Did your wardrobe choice during the audition help inform what Agent Shin ended up wearing in the movie?
It wasn’t really suits and heels in the end, but it was similar to that. So we collaborated on that with the costume team.
Chiwetel Ejiofor and Wallis Day in INFINITE. PETER MOUNTAIN/PARAMOUNT+
Did you learn a great deal from Chiwetel Ejiofor since he was your primary scene partner?
He’s one of the most incredible scene partners I’ve ever had, and yes, I learned an immense amount, especially the way that he composes himself when he goes into character before a scene. It was one of the few times where I’ve genuinely forgotten who another actor is in real life and I’ve just completely been in the zone with them. And he’s amazing at creating that for everyone else in the scene as well.
Since Agent Shin seemed caught off guard, did you know he was going to get as up close and personal as he did in that office scene?
I absolutely had no idea if it was coming or not, so you are absolutely right. Every single take with Chiwetel is different, but that’s what keeps it alive. You never know what’s coming.
Last year, I asked Chiwetel about character arcs, and he gave me a fascinating answer about how he no longer tracks them. He just performs each scene as best he can, without factoring the bigger picture, and then he lets the chips fall where they may. Did you get the sense that he was only focused on the work in front of him?
Wow. He and I did a lot of character development outside of work. We hung out, we rehearsed, we were on the phone a lot going through scenes and getting the chemistry right between our characters. So in that sense, the bigger picture was definitely looked at, yes. But actually, now that you’ve said that and put it into that perspective, I can see, on the day, how he was only focused on that scene and that moment. So that’s really interesting; I had no idea.
Tell me about your big fight scene.
Oh, that was fun. (Laughs.) We rehearsed that for a few days before leading up to it, and then we did most of the stunts ourselves. Obviously, Paramount wouldn’t let us do the flip and stuff, but the rest of it was super fun. It also felt faster on the day than it was on the screen. I don’t know if they slowed parts down for effect, but on the day, it was just very fast. Sophie [Cookson] was amazing, and it just became a dance between the both of us.
You have the physicality of an athlete, so it makes sense why the industry has steered you towards action. Did you expect this to happen during your early days?
Going back to the beginning, I always wanted to do more psychological drama roles. I just really like to get into the depths of a character, their history and their being. But then I started doing stunts on Krypton, and I just really enjoyed the whole process of coming up with ideas and creating fight scenes with the stunt coordinators. And I loved actually filming it and making it look real by training in MMA. So I just loved all of that, and I think I’ve swayed more that way in recent years. So I’ve realized that you can have both. You can have a double agent or a twisted character that fights. So I’m just trying to find the equilibrium of that because I love doing those kinds of roles. So I’m really glad that I found the more action stuff, and if I can collaborate and combine the two, that would be ideal.



From what I can gather, it doesn’t sound like you ever envisioned yourself in the worlds of Superman and Batman.
To be honest with you, I never thought I would get the opportunity to be in the superhero world. So in that sense, both opportunities [Krypton and Batwoman] took me by surprise. (Laughs.)
Wallis Day in Batwoman.
So was your Batwoman audition a pretty exhaustive process?
Yes. (Laughs.)
Weeks? Months?
Starting with the initial meetings, I think the whole process from start to finish was probably about six weeks before I had the screen test. And from that moment to Caroline [Dries] and I creating Kate and announcing that I’m doing Kate and bringing her back with Circe, I think that process was longer, like eight months.
Once they sat you down and explained everything they wanted to do with Kate Kane and Circe Sionis, was your head spinning?
Yeah, it was absolutely crazy. I never thought that they would do that with a character as heroic as Kate, but I really liked the idea as well. The fact that you could get into someone’s psyche so much that you could almost twist this hero into being a villain really fascinated me, as well as the pull and the effect that it would have on the other characters. I loved their yearning to get Kate back and the impact, the collateral damage, that it had with all the other characters in the show. It fascinated me.
Did you spend more time developing Circe since Kate is brainwashed for quite a while?
Yes, we spent more time developing Circe. We didn’t know where season three was going, and we didn’t know where the end of season two was going at that point. So I guess I was being more present like Chiwetel, but I wanted to be very in the moment with Circe. I wanted to get her developed before Kate because, chronologically, that was the way the show was being shot.
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Since you took over the role of Kate Kane from another actor, the goal was to make the character your own, which you were able to achieve. But did you still have to go back and watch the previous actor in order to give those keen-eyed fans a recognizable mannerism or tic?
That was another conversation that Caroline and I had. I asked her, “Do you want me to have any similar traits to the actress that portrayed Kate before me, or do you want me to just interpret Kate as I would naturally?” Since I had already watched season one, Caroline just said, “No, make Kate your own.” So I asked for all the scripts, and then I went back to the beginning to analyze Kate. I almost erased what I’d seen of Kate on screen because I analyzed Kate from the words on the page and how I would naturally bring them to life as a character. Kudos to the last actress because, to a certain extent, we found some similarities in Kate’s attributes, for sure. But for me to understand the character and make her more three-dimensional, it was more than just pulling from the character’s description; it was also her nuances and actions.
I’m really impressed by the fact that you went back and read all the scripts. That way, when Kate reunited with certain characters, you at least had their shared history in mind despite not playing those season-one moments yourself.
Yes, absolutely. It was really important for me to not just go on what had been screened in terms of chemistry and relationships, but what had actually been written. And when I went back and explored the relationships that Kate had with the other characters, I could then understand that dynamic and interpret it in my way. I was able to realize what types of relationships they had, which really helped.



You’re one of only a few people who can say that they’ve worn an official Batsuit. Did you take an obscene amount of selfies during that initial costume fitting?
(Laughs.) No, I wish I had. Honestly, it was such a big secret on set, and I was so worried that I would lose my phone or accidentally post a picture with me wearing it or something. I was as far away from my phone as possible. (Laughs.) But when the actual day came to shoot it, we had so much fun with it. We probably took about a thousand selfies. (Laughs.)
At the end of season two, Kate sets off to find some guy named Bruce Wayne. So for all the Wallis Day fans out there, can we reassure them that the door is still open for you to return someday?
(Laughs.) The door is definitely still open, yeah.
So Emma Stone has often said that her career totally changed once she dyed her hair red, as it put her in a smaller group of actors. With that in mind, did you notice an increase in work when you first cut your hair in a manner that’s distinct from most actors?
Yes, I did. My agent will probably hate me for telling you this, but I was in the mix for a few things with my long blonde hair. And at the time, on my personal journey, I just felt that my hair didn’t match up with my personality anymore. So I’d been asking my agent for permission to cut it for ages, but was told, “No.” I was told that it would change my character, genre and typecast me and all that. But then I just got to this point where I wanted to do it, so I did. And my agent was like, “But you’re in the running for all these jobs. What are we going to do now? We need to have a conversation.” And I was like, “Listen, just let me go to the auditions and we’ll see what happens.” And he was like, “OK fine, but you’re not going to have the right look that they want.” So I went to all three of those auditions that week, and even though I hadn’t actually worked for about seven months at that point, I booked all three jobs that week. (Laughs.)
Wow!
I know! (Laughs.)
Your former Krypton castmate Hannah Waddingham is also thriving with the Wallis Day cut.
(Laughs.) I love that you just called it the Wallis Day cut. Yeah, Hannah is very talented, and while I’m sure she would be fine with any haircut, she looks great now. (Laughs.)
So if you could walk into Warners or Paramount and green light a project for yourself, what would you choose?
I would really love to play a psychologically-deep character that also has a badass edge to her, whether that’s action or something psychological. Maybe it’d be a mixture of Charlize Theron’s Atomic Blonde and Angelina Jolie’s Gia or Girl, Interrupted. I’d love to do something like that because I love the depths of psychology as well as badass action.
If you combine what you just said with your background as a high-caliber swimmer, I think you’d be the perfect fit for a collegiate Swimfan reboot. You’d play the lead swimmer character who unravels due to an “overzealous fan.”
(Laughs.) Oh my goodness. Is that the 2000s movie?



It is the quintessential 2000s movie.
(Laughs.) Yes, you’re right! That’s a great idea. I saw it a very long time ago. Wow, I need to rewatch that, actually. Let’s make it happen! (Laughs.)
Can you say anything about what you’re up to this fall?
So I just booked a lead role in a Paramount movie, which is really exciting. So that’s the next project. I don’t really know what else I can say. (Laughs.)
Clearly, you made an impression on Paramount with your work in Infinite.
Either that or they’re just scared of Agent Shin. I don’t know. (Laughs.)
Any last words before we wrap?
I’ll see you on the set of the Swimfan remake. (Laughs.)
 

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Former Batwoman star Ruby Rose hospitalized after surgical complications

The actress said it took hours to find an emergency room that would admit her.
By Naledi Ushe
July 28, 2021 at 09:50 AM EDT

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Ruby Rose tearfully revealed that it took her hours to get accepted into an emergency room due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

The 35-year-old actress took to her Instagram Story on Tuesday and explained her hospitalization was due to a complication from surgery, although she didn't go into detail about the procedure she had.

"I just wanted to sort out some live stuff and some health stuff and some house stuff and all the good things," Rose said in a video.
The Australian actress continued, "I did have a procedure and I had to have surgery, but it was fine and the surgery went well. But then I had a few complications and I had to go to the emergency room to go to the hospital."



Rose said when she finally determined her symptoms were serious she "called an ambulance and it took hours to find a hospital that would be able to take me or anyone."

The Orange Is the New Black alum began to cry as she told fans emergency rooms were "rejecting taking people and I… and my case was quite serious."

"We stuck it out for a little bit longer and we were lucky enough to get accepted by a hospital after a bit of a standoff," the tearful DJ said.

"Everyone was amazing, all the front-liners are amazing," Rose said of her healthcare team.

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Regarding the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and the reason she assumed it took a long time to get a room, she told fans, "Please stay safe, try to keep everyone safe. Get vaccinated if you can, please."

"It's just… it doesn't need to be this hard for everyone and I just can't imagine all the other people that are having way more, way, way more serious situations happening right now," the Australian star said.

"I'm just sending everyone love," Rose said, adding that she would continue her social media break.
Ending her video, the actress told her followers, "I love you all and take care of yourselves."


COVID-19 numbers are increasing in California and across the United States due to the highly transmissible Delta variant, which is now the most common strain in the country, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Unvaccinated individuals make up the large majority of new cases and hospitalizations.

On Tuesday, California had over 12,000 new COVID-19 cases and a 14-day average of 6,973 new cases, according to data shared by the New York Times.

More than 609,000 people nationwide have died from COVID-19 since the pandemic began, according to the CDC. 49.2 of the country is fully vaccinated.

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Batwoman boss, star preview the birth of Ryan's rogues gallery in season 3

Javicia Leslie and showrunner Caroline Dries preview Batwoman and Batwing's partnership, the show's take on Poison Ivy, and more.
By Chancellor AgardOctober 12, 2021 at 03:27 PM EDT

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Batwoman's titular hero is returning more confident than ever in season 3.
Last season, the CW superhero drama had to reconfigure its story around a new lead character, Ryan Wilder (Javicia Leslie), who picked up the Batwoman mantle following Kate Kane's disappearance and spent the entire season wondering if she was worthy of it. Thankfully, that's no longer a question.
"Season 3 is definitely a continuation of season 2, but Ryan is now firmly planted as Batwoman," showrunner Caroline Dries tells EW. "She's confident, she knows her role, [and] her biggest problem now is, 'I have to clean up this mess I made at the end of season 2.'"
Javicia Leslie on 'Batwoman'

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The mess she's referring to is the Bat team losing track of Batman's villain trophies in the season 2 finale. As the new year begins, these dangerous items are out in the world and anyone can pick them and cause mayhem — as we'll see in the season 3 premiere, which introduces a dangerous new version of the Mad Hatter (Amitai Marmorstein). There will be more twists on Batman's rogue's gallery as the season progresses.

"How we left off with all of the Batman villain trophies being spread out in Gotham, it brings this feeling of nostalgia because we get to play with these villains that we've grown knowing and watching," Leslie says. "Episode 3 [has] the Victor Fries influence. That episode was my favorite."
Dries adds, "That was our key goal this season: to create [Ryan's] own rogues gallery. To [give Ryan] her own personal mess that she created, that's part of her backstory and history and responsibility."
Introducing these new villains has affected the show's tone as well. "The tonal vibe that we leaned to is more of a horror, action-thriller tone. That plays out in almost every episode," Dries says. "On The Flash, they have metahumans that can do all of these crazy things, so that makes them really challenging villains for the Flash and his team to go up against. With our show, she's going up against human beings. So how do you still make them feel formidable? How do you still get the scares and the tension? And so it almost ends up leaning itself towards more of a thriller."

That said, Batwoman isn't shying away from larger-than-life villains. For example, this season will feature Bridget Reagan (Jane the Virgin) as Poison Ivy, a villain whose plant-controlling powers push her very close to metahuman territory.
"That story is heightened and crazy and pure spectacle as it gets at certain points, [but] it's a love story," Dries teases. "She is the big bad, but there are a couple big bads who are being groomed along the way."
Camrus Johnson and Javicia Leslie on 'Batwoman'

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Thankfully, Ryan isn't facing these threats alone, because Luke Fox (Camrus Johnson), who was previously stuck behind a computer screen, will be joining her in the field as the armored hero Batwing.
"It's so much fun!" Leslie says of Ryan and Luke's crime-fighting partnership. "We never really get to see a male and female Bat duo go out there and kick villain ass [on screen]!"
"For Batwoman, having Batwing as her literal wingman has been good. He's been incredibly helpful, and the Bat team is able to be two places at once, essentially, in the field," says Dries. "For Luke, it's great because he's living out this fantasy of, 'I actually get to the man who I think my dad wants me to be.' For Mary [Nicole Kang], who is also part of the Bat team, there's a piece of her that's feeling left out. But more so than that is the medical science that backs her concern, which is that Luke shouldn't be wearing that Batsuit because he is not ready yet. He has some problems that he hasn't dealt with yet, and you don't just put on a super-suit and become superhuman."
But Batwing isn't Ryan's only new partner. As the season 3 trailer revealed, the Bat team is being forced to work with Alice (Rachel Skarsten), who was imprisoned but agreed to a White Collar-like deal in which she helps the Bat team round up the missing Bat trophies.
"Alice hates it with all of her heart, but I think to add to it Alice is also going through her own mental trauma, because a lot of what has happened to her in her life has never been dealt with and she's constantly being abandoned," Leslie says. "So when they're going on this journey, obviously Ryan hates it and Alice hates it, but they know they need each other and they're forced to work together."
Dries adds: "At the end of the day, she's a brilliant genius, but never forget she will always be out for herself. Her arc this season is realizing, 'What if I'm starting to care for somebody else, and what does that mean for my own survival?'"
Rachel Skarsten and Javicia Leslie on 'Batwoman'

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On the personal front, Ryan is also still reeling from Alice revealing that her birth mother didn't die in childbirth and is still alive.
"She is not that happy about it because, obviously, knowing that your birth mother is alive means that she chose not to be your mom. I think it's almost worst to know that she's alive than to think that she's dead," Leslie says. "That ends up being a huge hurdle for her to get over in order to be able to find out what's really going on. There's obviously a bigger picture, something bigger happening. Our show doesn't bring on a character for nothing. There's obviously something bigger behind the character of Ryan's mom, but I think that before she can get to why her mom is even in the picture again, she has to get past feeling that she got left, that she wasn't special enough to have her mom in her life."
While nothing has been confirmed yet, many fans suspect that Robin Givens, who is joining the show as a powerful CEO named Jada Jet, is playing Ryan's mother. But only time will tell.
Batwoman returns Wednesday at 9 p.m. ET/PT on the CW.
 

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Batwoman casts Robin Givens in major season 3 role

Are we in store for the mother of all twists?
By Sydney Bucksbaum
July 06, 2021 at 05:24 PM EDT




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Has Batwoman found Ryan Wilder's long-lost mother?
EW has confirmed that Robin Givens is joining the CW superhero drama in a major role for season 3. She has been cast in the series regular role of Jada Jet, the powerful CEO of Jet Industries who "isn't bossy — she's the boss." Described as "passionate and hard-working," Jada is "a woman who has worked her way through life's ups and downs to climb her way to the top — all while being extremely protective over her impetuous son."
But perhaps the most important part of Jada's character description is the revelation that she has "a deep past that forced her to give up her first-born child." As Batwoman fans know, Ryan (Javicia Leslie) was thrown a huge curveball in the season 2 finale when she learned, thanks to a newly imprisoned Alice (Rachel Skarsten), that her biological mother is actually alive. (Ryan had always believed her mother died in childbirth.)

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It can't be a coincidence that Givens' major new character who has an adult child somewhere out in the world is being introduced at the same that Ryan will be searching for her birth mother. Jada's character description also reveals that she is "a woman with a good heart, but will do whatever it takes to protect her family." Will that protection extend to Ryan if or when Jada and Ryan reunite this season? Or will Jada's "impetuous son" take priority over her (presumptive) long-lost daughter?
Batwoman showrunner Caroline Dries previously told EW that she had plans beginning at the start of season 2 to "expand Ryan's world slowly but surely" with her biological mother. But "it was that delicate dance of trading off leads at the beginning of the season, so we didn't want to overpopulate the show with Ryan's personal world while we were still transitioning to a new Batwoman," Dries said. "Of course, we really wanted to get to know Ryan and use this notion of a biological mother as a point of drama or an obstacle for her moving forward into the next season."

Fans can expect this potential mother of all twists to take center stage when Batwoman returns for season 3. "I did want to explore just that maternal love and what Ryan is missing in her life, or has never experienced fully," Dries said. "She had it with her adoptive mom, but that was ripped away from her. So if you're a child that's been through the foster system your entire life, I think there's always this question mark hovering over you of, 'Where did I come from? Who gave me my looks? Who gave me my interests?' For Ryan, that's something she's going to grapple with — how much does she want to know? — in season 3."
Batwoman star Leslie previously told EW that she "always had a feeling when we started this season that we never addressed Ryan's biological parents and that would always end up being something that gets addressed in a very tricky Gotham way… Now that we know that there is a possibility or maybe just it is the truth that Ryan's mother, her biological mother is still alive, I just am so excited for season 3 because this is just a whole [new] world that we'll be able to enter."
Givens is of course a veteran TV and film actress with many credits to her name. She got her start on ABC's '80s sitcom Head of the Class and also had roles on Diff'rent Strokes, The Cosby Show, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, The Women of Brewster Place, Sparks, and The Game, as well as in films such as Boomerang and Blankman. Most recently she's appeared on Riverdale, Katy Keene, Step Up: High Water, Chuck, and Tyler Perry's House of Payne.
Batwoman season 3 premieres Oct. 13 at 9 p.m. ET/PT on the CW.

how this skank still getting roles? Ok ok I kid. Must be sucking off somebody with that old skull of hers. Not in the mood to keep seeing another reverse skeletor in sitcoms and movies. Ain’t that right, Rosario? Sit y’all bony, thorny looking asses down somewhere!
 
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