BGOL BLACK PANTHER Movie Thread [Denzel Washington to star in Black Panther 3]

younggiftedandblack

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The CIA shit is for the larger MCU. As much as the Black panther films feel like they are not the same as the other movies, they still are and they need connective tissue… and for those who know the new director of the CIA is going to be kind of a big deal
Yeah I get it, the connection to the MCU and setting up for the Thunderbolts movie.

The more I sit with it, I think I like this better than the first one. It felt more epic. The soundtrack is pretty good too.
 

julian

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just got back from thgis movie. 1st the positives
1.the dedication to Chadwick/T'Challa
2.this is a beautifully filmed movie
3.the women all looked fire especially Angela and Lupita
4.the subtle humor was great
5.the CAMEO was very nice touch

the negatives
1.the CGI was horrible,glitches thruout that were very noticeable and distracting
2.Namor came off to me as a bootleg Aquaman
3.Letitia was really good as the sister but shes too small to taken serious as Black Panther
4.the fight scenes were not engaging,innovative nor exciting

The dedication scenes by themselves give this movie a solid 6 the story and the origins of Namor and his people gives it another 1.5 so I say its a solid 7.5/10 which based on circumstances is great. Imagine how much better this movie would have been had our brother not died. I hope this is the final Black Panther go out on a high note please dont make more and devalue what these 2 movies stand for. now onto Antman and Kang then Dr Doom makes his apperance.
 

Darrkman

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Just got back. Amazing movie. Namor was a beast. Namora wanted all the smoke.

Also when this happens you know it was about to get real.

namor-rise-talocan.gif
 

BigDaddyBuk

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the negatives
1.the CGI was horrible,glitches thruout that were very noticeable and distracting
2.Namor came off to me as a bootleg Aquaman
3.Letitia was really good as the sister but shes too small to taken serious as Black Panther
4.the fight scenes were not engaging,innovative nor exciting
1. the cgi was noticeably better than the first. the underwater scenes were remarkable.

2. you outcho cot damn mind.

3. see number 2.

4. dude...see number 2 again.

fight me.
 

therealjondoe

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1. the cgi was noticeably better than the first. the underwater scenes were remarkable.

2. you outcho cot damn mind.

3. see number 2.

4. dude...see number 2 again.

fight me.
The fight on the wakanda boat had terrible cg
From the top view all Namors people were all moving the exact same. There was one animation for all of them.
Without spoiling, BP looked terrible during the sand fight.
There was a few scenes with Namor diving off shit that looked bad too like they had different resolutions
 

BlackGoku

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Yeah ok, that's the reason:rolleyes2:

Was Black Panther 1 banned there? Looks like Black Adam was banned there because Pierce Brosnan wore a necklace given to him by Dalai Lama. :hmm:

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As for Black Adam, despite Dwayne Johnson's powerhouse status in the Chinese market thanks to movies like Skyscraper, Hobbs & Shaw and other Fast and Furious entries, his superhero debut would be banned not because of him, but for reasons pertaining to his co-star Pierce Brosnan. Brosnan, who plays Doctor Fate in the film, is known for his embracement of Buddhism and as such, he is a long-time follower of the Dalai Lama. This is a big no-no in the eyes of Chinese authorities.

Retaliation against Black Adam would mimic measures taken against Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings or Eternals, as both Simu Liu and Chloe Zhao have voiced their criticisms of the political system of the country they were born in. In Eternals' case, the film also featured a gay couple, which continues to be frowned upon in China, meaning the movie never stood a chance, but at least that's more enlightening than Spider-Man: No Way Home being flagged for featuring too much Statue of Liberty.
 

Pimpslap Slim

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Solid movie. Sad as well
One scene hit like a kick to the chest. Sat there in disbelief like naaaaw man WTF.
Angela Bassett deserves an Oscar.
Ironheart felt kinda outta place and didn't really make an impact.
All of the actors gave top notch performances. Could tell they were truly mourning Chadwick/tchalla.
I like how they made it make sense regarding how tchalla the name and character can be recast and exist in future projects.
Damn good movie considering the monumental task set before them.
 

CurtDawg

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I just got back from seeing it as well
Went to the 11:00pm showing
I see people comparing this to the original Black Panther
But its a little difficult to compare the two

Different types of movies, different tone, different emotion, different pacing, etc, etc
Its almost like comparing Infinity War to Endgame
Or comparing Kill Bill 1, to Kill Bill 2
I enjoyed both...in different ways :cool:
 

grownazzblakman

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RiRi is a mcu character with her own comic series. I think they "shoehorned" her in because Disney+ has her series coming out next year. She to me, wasn't needed for the story and was annoying to me a bit....
Yeah, I can definitely see how some folks would feel that way. :yes: Point taken.

Here's how I saw it. You might disagree tho. :dunno:

I don't think they shoehorned RiRi into the plot at all. :smh:

This is a little bit long... but bear with me...

I had mentioned earlier in this thread that this movie is equal parts a 'character study' + combined with a traditional 'plot-driven narrative'.

Please Allow me to explain further (You might disagree, but here goes..)
  • As you know, a plot-driven narrative type of story is when 'events' supersede 'character development' (for example: it's when things like plot twists + fantastic world-building + and plenty of action scenes all help to 'move the story forward'.)
  • So in this case, the 'plot-driven narrative' half of the movie..... is all about Namor.
    • It includes his origin story.
    • The World-building of his underwater kingdom.
    • His rise to power + the reveal of his master plans...
  • And ultimately the war that ensues between Wakanda and Talocan... in order to stop his plans from unfolding.
  • Wakanda's Heros gather together to save the world from Namor's destructive might.
Meanwhile, the other half of the movie is the "character study"..... of key characters like Queen Ramonda + General Okoyé.
But more than anyone else... it's about the "character study" of Shuri. :yes: It's about her evolution.

A character study is when a movie is driven more by the internal struggles of one or more main characters.... rather than being completely driven by the events of the plot.

During the movie... Shuri had these 2 things that she struggled with...
  • She struggles with 'dealing with her emotions' of grief. (Which she ultimately replaces with Revenge)
  • She struggles with 'finding her purpose' after she loses the people closest to her.
Shuri is driven by 'purpose' to excel at the things she does.
She doesn't excel because she is pushing herself to be better... in order to set a new 'personal record'.
She excels when there is a 'purpose' for her to excel... like an emergency (or crisis) that needs to be averted.

For almost the entire movie, Shuri refuses to grieve over the loss of her brother & later over the loss of her mother.
In order to stay strong... she pretty much closes off that part of her brain that allows herself to release her deepest emotions.

Instead, she relies on her technological mind to provide 'the purpose' for her decision-making.

On the beach, in a final battle with Namor.... in order to become the VERY STRONGEST version of herself... Shuri finally "gives in" to ALL the emotions that she had been bottling up for the entire movie.

And in that very moment... when she needed the support of her family/ancestors the MOST... Queen Ramonda finally arrives to provide the motherly advice to "show them who you REALLY are". (Which means to stop letting Vengeance consume her emotions... and show "the compassionate" side of herself instead... which Shuri was suppressing the whole time. All of her stoicism had made her numb toward life & death)

To me, this mirrors the ultimate sentiment of T'Challa in Captain America: Civil War, when he captures Baron Zemo and he says to him: "Vengeance has consumed you. It has consumed them. I am done letting it consume me."



THAT is what Shuri needed to hear, in order to triumph on the beach, against Namor.
  • She needed to KNOW that her ancestors in the ancestral plane would NEVER abandon her. :yes:
  • She needed to NOT LET vengeance consume her, the same way it did not consume her brother.
  • She needed to KNOW that it was ok to 'be compassionate.
  • She needed to heal. And to find a new purpose in life. :yes:
So why is RiRi's character soo important in all of this??
  • Because RiRi's character plays a HUGE part of Shuri's (overall) healing process. :yes:
  • Her character provides Shuri with 'a new purpose' in her life. :yes:
Did you notice how RiRi's personality in BP2 was very similar to Shuri's personality in BP1? :yes:

When we met Shuri in Black Panther 1, she was a young + cocky technological genius. Full of sarcasm + witty banter + sharp quips. Plus she was a bit rebellious. A Prodigy who knows that she is one. But also she was a bit of a "fangirl" of her older brother T'Challa.

So when we meet RiRi in Black Panther 2, she is a miniature version of Shuri. :yes: Full of sarcasm + witty banter + sharp quips. Plus she is a bit rebellious. She's a Prodigy who knows that she is one. But also she is a bit of a "fangirl" of Shuri.

And by the end of Wakanda Forever, in the same way T'Challa was a 'big brother' to Shuri.... Shuri herself becomes a 'big sister' to someone whose personality was IDENTICAL to hers, in the first Black Panther movie. :yes:

So RiRi is important.... because she helps to complete the entire 'character arc' for Shuri, in this movie. :yes:

RiRi provides a degree of 'Sisterhood' which fills a HUGE VOID left by all the family Shuri lost... and she also provides a 'new purpose' for Shuri to grow (both emotionally & technologically), in any future Black Panther (or Ironheart) projects.

Shuri went from being "the genius little sister"... to being an "Auntie" + a "Big Sister" + a full-fledged "Super Hero" during this movie.

That was her 'character arc'. :yes:

Without RiRi... a big piece of Shuri's character development (ie "finding her purpose") lacks some much-needed exploration. :dunno:

Just my opinion.


Salute.
 
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Coldchi

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Very good movie. Angela Bassett did that.
The flooding of the throne room aftermath scene was definitely a tearjerker.
And I like how the ending left the door open for a recast of T'Challa.......sort of.
Dunno where all those movie insiders kept getting Dr. Doom from......this ended phase 4 like it was supposed to.
 
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