BGOL BLACK PANTHER Movie Thread [Denzel Washington to star in Black Panther 3]
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and expected better from Brazil, but 65% less in South Korea? 
If she kills Namor, Wakanda would have been destroyed.
Hell, all those ppl on the battleship would be dead.
make everyone in Wakanda drink the heart shaped herb..........create a suit for everybody..........lol
I actually liked this movie better than the first one. it probably had something to do with calibrating my expectations because i was underwhelmed by the first one and i still feel as though it was overrated. this is phenomenal considering the real life situation that they had to deal with and that this movie was in essence two origin stories.
my biggest complaint with the movie is riri/iron heart. they might as well have made her a dude. she acted too masculine and they made her look too hard.
imo, it continues the trend in hollywood to make our women more masculine and feminize the men.
my biggest complaint with the movie is riri/iron heart. they might as well have made her a dude. she acted too masculine and they made her look too hard.
imo, it continues the trend in hollywood to make our women more masculine and feminize the men.
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no. You should read up on the character.
Like I said.....she wants ALL the smoke...
Something I'm curious about. Do their skins change color in and outside the water?
i am a lifelong comic collector.
they didn't have to make her have the mannerisms of a dude. she even talked with the cadence and tonality of a dude.
and i am looking for images of the comic character with cornrows now. i can't find any.
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Didn't shed a tear during the funeral, the Chadwick opening though
Crazy how someone you've never met can have that effect on you. And the ending burning the clothes and the visions got me again.
Crazy how someone you've never met can have that effect on you. And the ending burning the clothes and the visions got me again.
Can Angela Bassett win an Oscar for 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever'?
'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever' is bound for below-the-line recognitions for its sumptuous design elements, but could Angela Bassett finally break the acting glass ceiling for the MCU?
Can Angela Bassett win an Oscar for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever?
The movie is bound for below-the-line recognitions for its sumptuous design elements, but could Bassett finally break the acting glass ceiling for the MCU?
By Joshua RothkopfNovember 13, 2022 at 10:00 AM EST
To answer that question as simply as possible: Yes. Because Angela Bassett can do anything in our eyes. But will the veteran's standout turn as Queen Ramonda — part regal reserve, part inflamed lioness in winter, all irresistible catnip — go all the way to the Oscars?
The MCU has never scored an acting nomination before, a stubborn fact worth bearing in mind. And while DC supervillains have already snuck off with a pair of Oscars, Heath Ledger for 2008's The Dark Knight and Joaquin Phoenix for 2019's Joker, those both may be attributable to the high-wire act of performing in that particularly attention-grabbing role.
Angela Bassett in 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever'
| CREDIT: ANNETTE BROWN/MARVEL STUDIOS
Bassett herself is worthy and long overdue. Her sole Academy Award nomination came with 1993's What's Love Got to Do With It, in which she summoned an especially complex Tina Turner.
Regarding this year's race, two factors fall squarely in Bassett's favor. First, the films offering her the toughest competition, Sarah Polley's Women Talking and the Daniels' Everything Everywhere All at Once, both have at least two potential supporting-actress nominees: Jessie Buckley and Claire Foy in the former; Jamie Lee Curtis and Stephanie Hsu in the latter. While all four of these turns are stellar, a certain amount of vote-splitting seems inevitable.
Second, and more significantly, no other Oscar-bound movie this year (with the possible exception of Avatar: The Way of Water) will be seen by more voters. This isn't wishful thinking or quality-vouching, just pure numbers. Wakanda's sheer box-office might, coupled with Bassett's far-and-away strongest turn within it, could boost her in a singular, undeniable way.
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is in theaters now. Nominations for the 95th Academy Awards will be announced Jan. 24, 2023.
Lupita Nyong'o on speaking Spanish in 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever': 'It was a gift'
Lupita Nyong'o says speaking Spanish in 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever' was a dream come true.
Lupita Nyong'o on speaking Spanish in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: 'It was a gift'
The 12 Years a Slave Oscar winner says speaking Spanish in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever was a dream come true.
By Mike MillerNovember 12, 2022 at 10:00 AM EST
For Black Panther: Wakanda Forever star Lupita Nyong'o, the opportunity to speak Spanish on screen was a lifelong dream come true.
"I was so excited about it," said the actress while participating in EW's Around the Table video series, which also featured her costars and the film's director, Ryan Coogler. "It was just a straight gift. And I was very, very happy to do it... I've always wanted to work in Spanish and never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that that opportunity would come in Black Panther."
Nyong'o, who was born to Kenyan parents in Mexico City, added that for her, "this film represents different sides of my heritage." She added, "Being born in Mexico and having that Mesoamerican culture represented, it's something that's very close to me."
Wakanda Forever introduces audiences not only to a new villain in the form of the charismatic Namor (played by Mexican actor Tenoch Huerta), but also the entire underwater civilization that he rules, Talokan, an Atantis-like lost city based on Aztec legend.
While the inclusion of indigenous American culture in Wakanda Forever afforded Nyong'o a natural opportunity to speak Spanish, it's not the first time her character Nakia has spoken multiple languages in a Marvel movie. In fact, the actress considers multilingualism to be one of the Wakandan spy's superpowers.
Lupita Nyong'o in 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever'
| CREDIT: MARVEL STUDIOS
"I always thought that was a very cool thing from the last movie that she spoke Korean, and I always thought that had never been seen before," Nyong'o said, referring to a scene in Black Panther that takes place in Busan, South Korea. The actress received praise from Korean-speaking fans after the movie came out, with many complimenting her accent and pronunciation.
The original Black Panther became an instant sensation when it hit theaters in 2018, shattering box office records, raking in Oscar nominations, and shattering myths about representation on screen — all of which Coogler is looking to repeat with his highly-anticipated sequel. And while he's without his star from the first film, Chadwick Boseman, who died in 2020 following a private battle with colon cancer, Coogler told EW that the late actor was looking forward to introducing even more diversity to the franchise.
"I had spoken with Chad [Boseman] about that aspect of the script, and he was really excited," Coogler said of introducing Talokan in the sequel. "That was something he was fired up about. I remember we were at a restaurant in Los Feliz the first time we talked about possibly having indigenous American representation in the film. He got the biggest smile, like, 'They're never going to see this coming. It's awesome.'"
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is now in theaters. Watch EW's full Around the Table interview above.
EW answers your burning questions about 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever'
Who rules Wakanda now? What does Namor's name mean? EW answers your burning questions about 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.'
Warning: This article contains spoilers for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
At long last, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is here. The tragic death of original Black Panther star Chadwick Boseman in 2020 left many fans wondering how Marvel could craft a worthy sequel. But now that the highly anticipated film is in theaters, fans will probably leave with all-new questions. Below, we do our best to answer them.
Letitia Wright as Shuri in 'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.'
| CREDIT: ANNETTE BROWN/MARVEL STUDIOS
Who rules Wakanda now?
Until Wakanda Forever, Shuri (Letitia Wright) was the kingdom's resident scientific genius, responsible for innovating new technologies both for combat and medicine. Shuri's love of science is core to who she is, and she has no intention of giving that up. But now she's also taken on the mantle of Black Panther, protector of the kingdom. Either of those responsibilities would be a lot for one person, so then to also be queen of a world superpower would be way too much. That explains why Shuri organizes the traditional coronation ritual at the end of the film, but then ducks out to allow M'Baku (Winston Duke) to make his claim without resistance. For now, it seems, Shuri will protect the kingdom as the Black Panther and lead its science division, while M'Baku reigns from the throne…at least until a certain heir is old enough to challenge him for it.
Why was Daniel Kaluuya absent from Black Panther: Wakanda Forever?
In the original Black Panther, Daniel Kaluuya played W'Kabi, the husband of Okoye and an advisor to T'Challa who eventually sides with Killmonger's attempted coup before being defeated by his wife. Kaluuya did not reprise his role for the sequel, mostly because the filming schedule conflicted with Jordan Peele's Nope, in which Kaluuya had a much larger starring role. In Wakanda Forever, the explanation for W'Kabi's absence is that he's still in prison for siding with the traitor.
What is Julia-Louis Dreyfus' character up to?
Julia Louis-Dreyfus has already popped up in a few MCU stories as Valentina Allegra de Fontaine, but her role in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is her meatiest yet. Throughout the film, we see the new CIA director playing dumb in the style of Veep's Selina Meyer, only to reveal toward the end that she's been paying a lot closer attention to Wakandan affairs than her ex-husband Everett Ross (Martin Freeman) thinks. Although she seems to be on board with Ross' advocacy for friendly relationships with Wakanda, by the end of the film it's clear that she's been setting him up to be discredited and arrested as a traitor — presumably so she can go forward with military action against Wakanda that Namor has predicted and the U.S. President demands.
In her other appearances, we've seen Fontaine recruiting superpowered individuals who don't necessarily fit the good-guy mold of the Avengers, including Wyatt Russell's U.S. Agent from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Florence Pugh's Yelena Belova from Black Widow and Hawkeye. They are destined to become the Thunderbolts, a team of "superheroes" loyal to the American state.
The cover to a 1968 issue of 'Namor the Sub-Mariner' by John Buscema.
| CREDIT: MARVEL
Why do the characters pronounce Namor's name differently?
Namor the Sub-Mariner was created by writer-artist Bill Everett in 1939, and was not originally a Mesoamerican character. Everett came up with the name because he thought "Roman" spelled backward looked cool. Over the subsequent decades of the character's existence in the Marvel Universe, the assumed pronunciation has been "NAY-more," and that has been used when he appeared in Fantastic Four cartoons.
In order to create continuity with the character's Marvel history, that traditional pronunciation of Namor's name is used by certain characters in Wakanda Forever. But in rewriting Namor to be Mesoamerican for the MCU, director Ryan Coogler created a new backstory for the name. We see in flashback that Namor (Tenoch Huerta) was first called that by a dying Spanish colonizer, who used it to mean "child without love." In Spanish, the name would be pronounced "NAH-more," so that's how Namor uses it himself after claiming the epithet as a badge of honor.
That's why different characters say it differently — but if you want to interpret the Wakandans' pronunciation as a microaggression against their enemy, that reading certainly seems viable within the film.
Namor is referred to as a "mutant." Does this have anything to do with the X-Men?
Yes, it does! Namor has quite a multifaceted heritage: He's part human and part undersea being (known as "Atlantean" in the comics and "Talokan" in the movie), but his human half also brings the same kind of genetic mutation that gives the X-Men their powers. Namor's mutant power is flight via his winged ankles, which is why no other Talokan has them (this is even remarked upon in the movie). Although Kevin Feige has yet announce a new X-Men film, Namor is now the second MCU character to be defined as a mutant after Ms. Marvel's Kamala Khan (and the multiversal cameo of Patrick Stewart's Professor X in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness shows that they're in play).
Why does Namor say "Imperius Rex"?
That's his classic catchphrase. When Everett first wrote Namor, the character's language was colloquial and confrontational. But over the years, as different writers and artists worked on Namor, his language became more neo-Shakespearean. He acquired a new battle cry, "Imperius Rex," which he has continued to use ever since. For one thing, it sounds awesome — and for another, it serves as a literal reminder to other Marvel characters that Namor isn't just an arrogant antihero: He's the true king ("rex") of a powerful empire ("imperius") with an army to back him up.
Why is T'Challa's son named Toussaint?
The post-credits scene for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever reveals the unexpected existence of T'Challa and Nakia's son. Like Erik Stephens/N'Jadaka, another Wakandan who was raised outside the kingdom, this boy has two names: His Wakandan name is T'Challa, after his father, but his Haitian name is Toussaint. This makes sense, since the real-life Toussaint Louverture (1743-1803) was the leader of the Haitian Revolution and the founding father of the world's first free Black republic.
Like Killmonger, Toussaint will eventually bring an outside perspective to Wakanda. Presumably when he comes of age, he too will return to claim the throne and put that perspective to use. Before then, we might see him link up with the Young Avengers.
Who rules Wakanda now?
Until Wakanda Forever, Shuri (Letitia Wright) was the kingdom's resident scientific genius, responsible for innovating new technologies both for combat and medicine. Shuri's love of science is core to who she is, and she has no intention of giving that up. But now she's also taken on the mantle of Black Panther, protector of the kingdom. Either of those responsibilities would be a lot for one person, so then to also be queen of a world superpower would be way too much. That explains why Shuri organizes the traditional coronation ritual at the end of the film, but then ducks out to allow M'Baku (Winston Duke) to make his claim without resistance. For now, it seems, Shuri will protect the kingdom as the Black Panther and lead its science division, while M'Baku reigns from the throne…at least until a certain heir is old enough to challenge him for it.
Why was Daniel Kaluuya absent from Black Panther: Wakanda Forever?
In the original Black Panther, Daniel Kaluuya played W'Kabi, the husband of Okoye and an advisor to T'Challa who eventually sides with Killmonger's attempted coup before being defeated by his wife. Kaluuya did not reprise his role for the sequel, mostly because the filming schedule conflicted with Jordan Peele's Nope, in which Kaluuya had a much larger starring role. In Wakanda Forever, the explanation for W'Kabi's absence is that he's still in prison for siding with the traitor.
What is Julia-Louis Dreyfus' character up to?
Julia Louis-Dreyfus has already popped up in a few MCU stories as Valentina Allegra de Fontaine, but her role in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is her meatiest yet. Throughout the film, we see the new CIA director playing dumb in the style of Veep's Selina Meyer, only to reveal toward the end that she's been paying a lot closer attention to Wakandan affairs than her ex-husband Everett Ross (Martin Freeman) thinks. Although she seems to be on board with Ross' advocacy for friendly relationships with Wakanda, by the end of the film it's clear that she's been setting him up to be discredited and arrested as a traitor — presumably so she can go forward with military action against Wakanda that Namor has predicted and the U.S. President demands.
In her other appearances, we've seen Fontaine recruiting superpowered individuals who don't necessarily fit the good-guy mold of the Avengers, including Wyatt Russell's U.S. Agent from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Florence Pugh's Yelena Belova from Black Widow and Hawkeye. They are destined to become the Thunderbolts, a team of "superheroes" loyal to the American state.
The cover to a 1968 issue of 'Namor the Sub-Mariner' by John Buscema.
| CREDIT: MARVEL
Why do the characters pronounce Namor's name differently?
Namor the Sub-Mariner was created by writer-artist Bill Everett in 1939, and was not originally a Mesoamerican character. Everett came up with the name because he thought "Roman" spelled backward looked cool. Over the subsequent decades of the character's existence in the Marvel Universe, the assumed pronunciation has been "NAY-more," and that has been used when he appeared in Fantastic Four cartoons.
In order to create continuity with the character's Marvel history, that traditional pronunciation of Namor's name is used by certain characters in Wakanda Forever. But in rewriting Namor to be Mesoamerican for the MCU, director Ryan Coogler created a new backstory for the name. We see in flashback that Namor (Tenoch Huerta) was first called that by a dying Spanish colonizer, who used it to mean "child without love." In Spanish, the name would be pronounced "NAH-more," so that's how Namor uses it himself after claiming the epithet as a badge of honor.
That's why different characters say it differently — but if you want to interpret the Wakandans' pronunciation as a microaggression against their enemy, that reading certainly seems viable within the film.
Namor is referred to as a "mutant." Does this have anything to do with the X-Men?
Yes, it does! Namor has quite a multifaceted heritage: He's part human and part undersea being (known as "Atlantean" in the comics and "Talokan" in the movie), but his human half also brings the same kind of genetic mutation that gives the X-Men their powers. Namor's mutant power is flight via his winged ankles, which is why no other Talokan has them (this is even remarked upon in the movie). Although Kevin Feige has yet announce a new X-Men film, Namor is now the second MCU character to be defined as a mutant after Ms. Marvel's Kamala Khan (and the multiversal cameo of Patrick Stewart's Professor X in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness shows that they're in play).
Why does Namor say "Imperius Rex"?
That's his classic catchphrase. When Everett first wrote Namor, the character's language was colloquial and confrontational. But over the years, as different writers and artists worked on Namor, his language became more neo-Shakespearean. He acquired a new battle cry, "Imperius Rex," which he has continued to use ever since. For one thing, it sounds awesome — and for another, it serves as a literal reminder to other Marvel characters that Namor isn't just an arrogant antihero: He's the true king ("rex") of a powerful empire ("imperius") with an army to back him up.
Why is T'Challa's son named Toussaint?
The post-credits scene for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever reveals the unexpected existence of T'Challa and Nakia's son. Like Erik Stephens/N'Jadaka, another Wakandan who was raised outside the kingdom, this boy has two names: His Wakandan name is T'Challa, after his father, but his Haitian name is Toussaint. This makes sense, since the real-life Toussaint Louverture (1743-1803) was the leader of the Haitian Revolution and the founding father of the world's first free Black republic.
Like Killmonger, Toussaint will eventually bring an outside perspective to Wakanda. Presumably when he comes of age, he too will return to claim the throne and put that perspective to use. Before then, we might see him link up with the Young Avengers.
How Black Panther: Wakanda Forever pays tribute to Chadwick Boseman
Footage of the actor, who died of colon cancer in 2020, appears in the sequel to powerful effect.
By Clarissa CruzNovember 11, 2022 at 06:00 PM EST
Warning: This story contains spoilers for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
The biggest question surrounding Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, the sequel to the 2018 superhero blockbuster, was how it was going to handle the unexpected death of its real-life star Chadwick Boseman, who passed away in 2020 after a private battle with colon cancer.
Boseman played King T'Challa, a.k.a. the Black Panther, in the Oscar-nominated original as well as three other films in the MCU. After Wakanda Forever opens with T'Challa's off-screen death from an unspecified illness, the late star's first appearance arrives in Marvel's iconic title card: The silent sequence, which has historically featured a montage of various Marvel superheroes before ending on the Marvel Studios logo, is replaced, powerfully and poignantly, with one paying tribute solely to Boseman. The unexpected change elicited cheers and applause at the film's star-studded Oct. 26 premiere – and telegraphed the undercurrent of grief and remembrance that runs throughout the film.
CREDIT: MARVEL STUDIOS
"It was helpful that we were honoring someone who we came to know through the work," says director Ryan Coogler, who struggled with continuing the franchise without his friend and star. And it's that work that is front and center, not only in the title sequence, but in another Boseman appearance in Wakanda Forever, during an emotional mid-credits scene where Shuri (Letitia Wright), having taken over the Black Panther mantle, comes to terms with her brother's death. Her sorrow is emphasized by a series of flashbacks of T'Challa. (Boseman previously played T'Challa in Captain America: Civil War, Black Panther, Avengers: Infinity War, and Avengers: Endgame.)
"I always carried him in every scene," Wright said in EW's Black Panther: Wakanda Forever cover story last month. "I always would ask, 'Bro, what do you think?' and just try to keep a spiritual connection. He meant everything to me, and he's the reason why I'm here. He picked me to be his sister, so I couldn't have done this journey without him."
CREDIT: MARVEL STUDIOS 2018
It's tricky, balancing an emotional farewell to a late star while forging ahead with a superhero franchise. But Coogler's cinematic tributes hit just the right, understated notes, echoing the on-set energy of Boseman himself. "He was exceptionally gifted at knowing when enough was enough and how to keep everybody happy, how to keep us all balanced," Coogler said at EW's Around the Table, reunited with Wright, Lupita Nyong'o (Nakia), Danai Gurira (Okoye), Tenoch Huerta (Namor), Mabel Cadena (Namora), and Alex Livinalli (Attuma). "For me as a director working with him, he was very much like having a coach on the field. On days where I was working with him, I knew those days would go great because he would bring balance for the set."
Adds Gurira, who was pleased with the treatment of her former co-star in the script: "The beauty of seeing how it was really intertwined in this narrative, [the] grief and loss and healing. And within that, the honoring of Chadwick, which was a very great comfort to see on the page."
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is in theaters now.
Footage of the actor, who died of colon cancer in 2020, appears in the sequel to powerful effect.
By Clarissa CruzNovember 11, 2022 at 06:00 PM EST
Warning: This story contains spoilers for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
The biggest question surrounding Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, the sequel to the 2018 superhero blockbuster, was how it was going to handle the unexpected death of its real-life star Chadwick Boseman, who passed away in 2020 after a private battle with colon cancer.
Boseman played King T'Challa, a.k.a. the Black Panther, in the Oscar-nominated original as well as three other films in the MCU. After Wakanda Forever opens with T'Challa's off-screen death from an unspecified illness, the late star's first appearance arrives in Marvel's iconic title card: The silent sequence, which has historically featured a montage of various Marvel superheroes before ending on the Marvel Studios logo, is replaced, powerfully and poignantly, with one paying tribute solely to Boseman. The unexpected change elicited cheers and applause at the film's star-studded Oct. 26 premiere – and telegraphed the undercurrent of grief and remembrance that runs throughout the film.
CREDIT: MARVEL STUDIOS
"It was helpful that we were honoring someone who we came to know through the work," says director Ryan Coogler, who struggled with continuing the franchise without his friend and star. And it's that work that is front and center, not only in the title sequence, but in another Boseman appearance in Wakanda Forever, during an emotional mid-credits scene where Shuri (Letitia Wright), having taken over the Black Panther mantle, comes to terms with her brother's death. Her sorrow is emphasized by a series of flashbacks of T'Challa. (Boseman previously played T'Challa in Captain America: Civil War, Black Panther, Avengers: Infinity War, and Avengers: Endgame.)
"I always carried him in every scene," Wright said in EW's Black Panther: Wakanda Forever cover story last month. "I always would ask, 'Bro, what do you think?' and just try to keep a spiritual connection. He meant everything to me, and he's the reason why I'm here. He picked me to be his sister, so I couldn't have done this journey without him."
CREDIT: MARVEL STUDIOS 2018
It's tricky, balancing an emotional farewell to a late star while forging ahead with a superhero franchise. But Coogler's cinematic tributes hit just the right, understated notes, echoing the on-set energy of Boseman himself. "He was exceptionally gifted at knowing when enough was enough and how to keep everybody happy, how to keep us all balanced," Coogler said at EW's Around the Table, reunited with Wright, Lupita Nyong'o (Nakia), Danai Gurira (Okoye), Tenoch Huerta (Namor), Mabel Cadena (Namora), and Alex Livinalli (Attuma). "For me as a director working with him, he was very much like having a coach on the field. On days where I was working with him, I knew those days would go great because he would bring balance for the set."
Adds Gurira, who was pleased with the treatment of her former co-star in the script: "The beauty of seeing how it was really intertwined in this narrative, [the] grief and loss and healing. And within that, the honoring of Chadwick, which was a very great comfort to see on the page."
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is in theaters now.
How the Black Panther: Wakanda Forever end-credits scene teases the future of Wakanda
Spoilers ahead.
By Devan CogganNovember 11, 2022 at 03:00 PM EST
Warning: This story contains spoilers for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
Spoilers ahead.
By Devan CogganNovember 11, 2022 at 03:00 PM EST
Warning: This story contains spoilers for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
pays tribute to a fallen hero — and also introduces a new one.
The much-anticipated Marvel sequel is now in theaters, returning to the fictional nation of Wakanda for a new adventure. Once again directed by Ryan Coogler, the film finds Wakandan heroes like Shuri (Letitia Wright), Nakia (Lupita Nyong'o), Okoye (Danai Gurira), and Queen Ramonda (Angela Bassett) mourning the death of their late king T'Challa (Chadwick Boseman, who died unexpectedly in August 2020 after a private battle with colon cancer).
Wakanda Forever is both a moving tribute to its late star and a joyous adventure, following T'Challa's sister Shuri as she grapples with her brother's death and becomes the new Black Panther. Boseman's legacy looms large, and the film celebrates him in multiple ways, including with an emotional funeral scene at the beginning and a bittersweet montage near the end. But Wakanda Forever also saves one of its biggest surprises for the end-credits scene — honoring T'Challa while also preserving his legacy for the future. (Spoilers ahead!)
'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever'
| CREDIT: MARVEL STUDIOS
Wakanda Forever has only one end-credits scene, which comes about midway through the credits (after Rihanna's ballad "Lift Me Up" plays). The scene finds Shuri visiting Nakia in Haiti, where Nakia has been living and working as a teacher. There, Nakia introduces the Wakandan princess to her nephew: Nakia and T'Challa's son. Nakia explains that the late T'Challa wanted his son to grow up away from the pressures and politics of Wakanda, so she has been raising him here in secret. The boy's name is Toussaint, but he also bears the Wakandan name T'Challa — just like his dad.
Both names have a powerful history: T'Challa, of course, is a tribute to his late father, and it sets up a potential future where the young boy might someday follow in his family's footsteps and take up the mantle of Black Panther. As for Toussaint, it's a reference to Toussaint Louverture, the legendary leader of the Haitian Revolution. Born on a sugar plantation in the 18th century, Louverture was a former slave who rose to prominence as a brilliant military mind, and he went on to lead the only successful slave revolt in modern history. (Historians have referred to him as "the first Black superhero of the modern age.")
It's a nice change of pace from the usual Marvel end-credits scene, which often ends with a goofy reference or a splashy casting announcement. Wakanda Forever instead takes a far more moving approach, and the scene functions as both an emotional tribute to Boseman and a powerful look ahead to the next generation. Marvel hasn't yet announced plans for a Wakanda Forever sequel, but after the end credits, there's a brief card declaring, James Bond-style, that "Black Panther will return." We'll have to wait and see as to exactly when and how, but the end-credits scene makes it clear that Wakanda really will endure Forever.
The much-anticipated Marvel sequel is now in theaters, returning to the fictional nation of Wakanda for a new adventure. Once again directed by Ryan Coogler, the film finds Wakandan heroes like Shuri (Letitia Wright), Nakia (Lupita Nyong'o), Okoye (Danai Gurira), and Queen Ramonda (Angela Bassett) mourning the death of their late king T'Challa (Chadwick Boseman, who died unexpectedly in August 2020 after a private battle with colon cancer).
Wakanda Forever is both a moving tribute to its late star and a joyous adventure, following T'Challa's sister Shuri as she grapples with her brother's death and becomes the new Black Panther. Boseman's legacy looms large, and the film celebrates him in multiple ways, including with an emotional funeral scene at the beginning and a bittersweet montage near the end. But Wakanda Forever also saves one of its biggest surprises for the end-credits scene — honoring T'Challa while also preserving his legacy for the future. (Spoilers ahead!)
'Black Panther: Wakanda Forever'
| CREDIT: MARVEL STUDIOS
Wakanda Forever has only one end-credits scene, which comes about midway through the credits (after Rihanna's ballad "Lift Me Up" plays). The scene finds Shuri visiting Nakia in Haiti, where Nakia has been living and working as a teacher. There, Nakia introduces the Wakandan princess to her nephew: Nakia and T'Challa's son. Nakia explains that the late T'Challa wanted his son to grow up away from the pressures and politics of Wakanda, so she has been raising him here in secret. The boy's name is Toussaint, but he also bears the Wakandan name T'Challa — just like his dad.
Both names have a powerful history: T'Challa, of course, is a tribute to his late father, and it sets up a potential future where the young boy might someday follow in his family's footsteps and take up the mantle of Black Panther. As for Toussaint, it's a reference to Toussaint Louverture, the legendary leader of the Haitian Revolution. Born on a sugar plantation in the 18th century, Louverture was a former slave who rose to prominence as a brilliant military mind, and he went on to lead the only successful slave revolt in modern history. (Historians have referred to him as "the first Black superhero of the modern age.")
It's a nice change of pace from the usual Marvel end-credits scene, which often ends with a goofy reference or a splashy casting announcement. Wakanda Forever instead takes a far more moving approach, and the scene functions as both an emotional tribute to Boseman and a powerful look ahead to the next generation. Marvel hasn't yet announced plans for a Wakanda Forever sequel, but after the end credits, there's a brief card declaring, James Bond-style, that "Black Panther will return." We'll have to wait and see as to exactly when and how, but the end-credits scene makes it clear that Wakanda really will endure Forever.
Yes. I noticed it when I was watching this bootleg. When they're underwater they look normal with their skin color when they come out of the water they turn blue.
I'm really curious how you think she was masculine? We're going to disagree on this one because she seemed like every Young person who's confident in themselves or do you view self-confidence as a masculine trait?
She gave off lesbian vibes imo
confidence wasn't the issue.
her mannerisms, speech cadence and tonality was the issue.
"butch" lesbian vibes.
I wasn't sure if it was changing or if it's still blue. You know how if you look at something blue under a blue light, it looks white? I figured it was something like that going on when they were underwater.
Shuri telling Okoye "I can blend in/pass as a student" at M.I.T, I told my son "lol, not in that sweatsuit zipped all the way up you damn neck..
dopest shit to me was the way Namor flew, bruh was in the air cutting and juking like a running back. In 3 dimensions. His flying looked unlike any other superhero I've seen.
that and the way the siren mythos (their singing luring sailors to their death) was blended in to the folks from Telokan.
Humble brag spoiler below. Don't click unless you've seen the movie... and want to read about me bragging a little, lol
and I'll just add this here... no gonna break my arm patting myself on the back, but...
Excerpt from page 84 of this thread regarding calls to recast Chadwick Boseman's role 16 July;
Excerpt from page 91 of this thread regarding the increasing calls to recast Chadwick Boseman's role as T'Challa, 28 July;
And having (Prince, son of King) T'challa be as young as he is works well for those wanting to see him and Storm together, as the X-men movie won't be in play until at least 2025, he can be old enough by then.
Excerpt from page 84 of this thread regarding calls to recast Chadwick Boseman's role 16 July;
Vertigo said:
Excerpt from page 91 of this thread regarding the increasing calls to recast Chadwick Boseman's role as T'Challa, 28 July;
Vertigo said:
And having (Prince, son of King) T'challa be as young as he is works well for those wanting to see him and Storm together, as the X-men movie won't be in play until at least 2025, he can be old enough by then.
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Yeah, Namor was dope as fuck.
Props to Ryan and The Gang for a successful opening weekend and yes Mrs. Bassett does deserve an Oscar nod she was that good.
Props to Ryan and The Gang for a successful opening weekend and yes Mrs. Bassett does deserve an Oscar nod she was that good.
I thought shuri acted just as well Mrs. basset
Huh?
Really the entire cast was on point, that's why it worked so well.
Was actually expecting this to be playing faintly in the background during that scene
I came here to ask this EXACT question...