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Of all time in a superhero film or of all time in all of film?

Shit, IMO it wasn't even the best line in that film.

Blade: "There are worse things out tonight than vampires."
Karen: "Like what?"
Blade: "Like me."

Simple, to the point, and timelessly bad ass. BTW, it also came from the comic Nightstalkers.

Ok I gotta cape for my writers and actors.

You remember it?

25 years later A GENERATION of comic book fans remember where and when they heard that line like the moon landing.

And still quote it.

And not in a BAD way.

It's a throwback to blaxploitation, action movie catchphrases and punchlines.

It was never meant to be serious.

It was to soften and humanize that character.

It wasn't Shakespeare but it was dope.

It was for that specific target audience and as we have seen Marvel especially but every superhero movie since has CHASED that style of humor.

For better or worse.

I will not have any Snipes slander on my watch.

(And yeah of course it's hella corny bro, that's why it still resonates)
 

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That family friendly shit really ticks me off as a fan of movies. Yes, PG-13 allows parents to go to movies with their kids etc etc etc

But you're doing a lot of shit for people who don't have any of their own money. Even though Deadpool showed that you can make a rated R movie and they can make a lot of money, Hollywood is still fucking scared to just say fuck them kids

Venom and Morbius are two examples. Now the writing in Morbius sucked ass, and I don't know if an R rating would have saved it without a complete shift of writing and direction.

But Venom as PG-13? Da Fuq. This foul-mouthed alien who eats people is going to be PG-13? Big mistake.

The rise of PG-13 has watered down what could have been a lot of good movies. I will sit on that Hill proudly and say fuck them kids, make movies for adults who actually have the money to pay to go see movies
I hope beyond hope they can pull this Nightstalkers / Spirits of Vengence phase off.

So damn much.

Sidebar: I'm seeing a WHOLE lot of retro revisionist Eternals love lately...

Very interesting. I know Marvel still pissed that movie ain't do what they wanted. But it a way it did. It broke even and the streaming is ridiculously high.

Maybe the public IS ready for more MAGIC after Dr. Strange?

And vampires never go out if style. But Iger is so family friendly. I just don't know.
 

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That family friendly shit really ticks me off as a fan of movies. Yes, PG-13 allows parents to go to movies with their kids etc etc etc

But you're doing a lot of shit for people who don't have any of their own money. Even though Deadpool showed that you can make a rated R movie and they can make a lot of money, Hollywood is still fucking scared to just say fuck them kids

Venom and Morbius are two examples. Now the writing in Morbius sucked ass, and I don't know if an R rating would have saved it without a complete shift of writing and direction.

But Venom as PG-13? Da Fuq. This foul-mouthed alien who eats people is going to be PG-13? Big mistake.

The rise of PG-13 has watered down what could have been a lot of good movies. I will sit on that Hill proudly and say fuck them kids, make movies for adults who actually have the money to pay to go see movies

Disagree.

First we ain't never been the target for this stuff.

And as a parent trust me kids run ALL this that's the money. They have disposable income.

US.

its nothing new. Who was buying he man TMNT nintendo cabbage patch transformers gi Joe barbie playstation x box.

It's kids. Then society flipped up and collectors came in.

Then those kids especially in the 80s. Those poor kids, nerd kids, etc grew up.

And now? They all are buying back their lost childhood.

There are whole documentaries on this subject.

Bro it's so complicated but one thing ain't.

Kids run this sh*t. Always have always will.

Pandemic proved that too.

But forget that part.

Bro why would any business NOT WANT THE WHOLE FAMILY?

I just get you? ok fine.

I get the family? That is not only 4 money streams but now I got generational money.

I liked comics. I got my wife against her will to tolerate it. I got my nieces and nephews into them. Iron man drops. I take them all. And then go to the comic shop. They hooked. Folks at work ask me what is all this comic stuff? They hooked, they kids hooked, they friends hooked. Christmas birthdays etc. Clothes and merchandise.

Next movie - repeat.

Why the f*ck would I LIMIT my audience and revenue if I don't HAVE TO.

All these fools yelling i'm not going to see it?

Still go see it.

And trust me illegal downloads and hate watching and internet social media traffic youtube reaction videos ALL COUNT.

of course Deadpool as R works. And personally I wouldn't touch it. But honestly with the rules now? You can get away with a WHOLE LOT in PG 13 a WHOLE LOT.

But I will NEVER EVER let writers and directors and creatives off the hook.

MAKE IT GOOD. PERIOD.

Spielberg made Jaws with a malfunctioning shark.

I ain't trying to hear sh*t.
 

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That family friendly shit really ticks me off as a fan of movies. Yes, PG-13 allows parents to go to movies with their kids etc etc etc

But you're doing a lot of shit for people who don't have any of their own money. Even though Deadpool showed that you can make a rated R movie and they can make a lot of money, Hollywood is still fucking scared to just say fuck them kids

Venom and Morbius are two examples. Now the writing in Morbius sucked ass, and I don't know if an R rating would have saved it without a complete shift of writing and direction.

But Venom as PG-13? Da Fuq. This foul-mouthed alien who eats people is going to be PG-13? Big mistake.

The rise of PG-13 has watered down what could have been a lot of good movies. I will sit on that Hill proudly and say fuck them kids, make movies for adults who actually have the money to pay to go see movies
I would love to see marvel break their ties with Disney. Disney is what's holding marvel back from being great.
 

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Marvel brought back Iger back for a reason. Good reason.

For a grown up to come in the room tell everyone to take a deep breath calm down.

And STOP.

First we gotta chill. We acting like new money. We not.

We got stockholders and investors.

All these D23 announcements and media posts are cool and all but we gotta PAY for this stuff. It ain't endless. It FEELS like it but it ain't.

We SEEN THAT.

Feige you the f*cking man. But you only got so much bandwidth. Chill. This is too much.

Jordan Shaq and Lebron just retired.

What we got coming up?

I don't care if it's black white gay or straight just make sure it's good and profitable and not necessarily in that order.

We want to be inclusive cause we want EVERYONE money.

I never want any kid to feel like they can't be a PART of this. And I mean 8 to 80 kids.

If that means blocking these incels fine cause they bad for business but we gotta concentrate on GOOD PRODUCT. On every level.

And that starts at leadership quality control and letting creatives create but not without parameters to make sure the audience is engaged.
 

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Disagree.

First we ain't never been the target for this stuff.

And as a parent trust me kids run ALL this that's the money. They have disposable income.

US.

its nothing new. Who was buying he man TMNT nintendo cabbage patch transformers gi Joe barbie playstation x box.

It's kids. Then society flipped up and collectors came in.

Then those kids especially in the 80s. Those poor kids, nerd kids, etc grew up.

And now? They all are buying back their lost childhood.

There are whole documentaries on this subject.

Bro it's so complicated but one thing ain't.

Kids run this sh*t. Always have always will.

Pandemic proved that too.

But forget that part.

Bro why would any business NOT WANT THE WHOLE FAMILY?

I just get you? ok fine.

I get the family? That is not only 4 money streams but now I got generational money.

I liked comics. I got my wife against her will to tolerate it. I got my nieces and nephews into them. Iron man drops. I take them all. And then go to the comic shop. They hooked. Folks at work ask me what is all this comic stuff? They hooked, they kids hooked, they friends hooked. Christmas birthdays etc. Clothes and merchandise.

Next movie - repeat.

Why the f*ck would I LIMIT my audience and revenue if I don't HAVE TO.

All these fools yelling i'm not going to see it?

Still go see it.

And trust me illegal downloads and hate watching and internet social media traffic youtube reaction videos ALL COUNT.

of course Deadpool as R works. And personally I wouldn't touch it. But honestly with the rules now? You can get away with a WHOLE LOT in PG 13 a WHOLE LOT.

But I will NEVER EVER let writers and directors and creatives off the hook.

MAKE IT GOOD. PERIOD.

Spielberg made Jaws with a malfunctioning shark.

I ain't trying to hear sh*t.
I love the close "Steven Spielberg made jaws with a malfunctioning shark." It's absolutely masterful how he did that. He made it more mental and alluring with a great score and cinematography.

I just read online The Shark doesn't actually show on the screen until 80 minutes into a 2 hour movie.

Kids will go see movies. You really think a movie theater is not going to take money from a 13, 14 or 15-year-old trying to see a rated R movie?

I'm not trying to say all movies should be rated R, but you've got to agree that some movies would have been better off with an R rating
 

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I love the close "Steven Spielberg made jaws with a malfunctioning shark." It's absolutely masterful how he did that. He made it more mental and alluring with a great score and cinematography.

I just read online The Shark doesn't actually show on the screen until 80 minutes into a 2 hour movie.

Kids will go see movies. You really think a movie theater is not going to take money from a 13, 14 or 15-year-old trying to see a rated R movie?

I'm not trying to say all movies should be rated R, but you've got to agree that some movies would have been better off with an R rating

Completely, I SAID that specifically Deadpool should STAY R.

But as we JUST saw with M3gan the rating shouldn't be a barrier. In a lot of cases its actually a benefit.

Like back in the day some rap records radio edits were better than the album cuts

I don't ALWAYS NEED the curses or the gore.

And as we have seen it can breed laziness or excessive wasteful use.

From psycho to Rosemary's baby to jaws etc

The best suspense best horror? You usually don't even see anything.

Your own MIND is much worse.

As much as folk hate on Falcon winter soldier? That decapitation seen was vicious. We didn't see anything. The whole thing had a throwback action movie buddy cop vibe.

So I trust marvel.

You can make "grown" content.

The problem is after over 10 years of marketing for family ? You can't just flip a switch and say well not anymore kiddies!

But Moon Knight and Andor were NOT for kids and honestly neither was She Hulk but I have no idea who that was for at all (I kid I kid)

So we are already getting programed that there is adult star wars and adult super heros JUST LIKE THE COMICS.

I think Feige got this figured out it's a balancing act.

But Morbius rating had absolutely nothing to do with that sh*t show.

Venom box office makes any rating arguments sound asinine.

Again its about fan base and quality.

We need to STOP lumping all these comic book movies together. It just don't work like that.

Ant man was a heist film Joker was psychological thriller winter solider action political drama Dr. Strange magical sci fi comedy horror.

And that is exactly how it should be.
 

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Completely, I SAID that specifically Deadpool should STAY R.

But as we JUST saw with M3gan the rating shouldn't be a barrier. In a lot of cases its actually a benefit.

Like back in the day some rap records radio edits were better than the album cuts

I don't ALWAYS NEED the curses or the gore.

And as we have seen it can breed laziness or excessive wasteful use.

From psycho to Rosemary's baby to jaws etc

The best suspense best horror? You usually don't even see anything.

Your own MIND is much worse.

As much as folk hate on Falcon winter soldier? That decapitation seen was vicious. We didn't see anything. The whole thing had a throwback action movie buddy cop vibe.

So I trust marvel.

You can make "grown" content.

The problem is after over 10 years of marketing for family ? You can't just flip a switch and say well not anymore kiddies!

But Moon Knight and Andor were NOT for kids and honestly neither was She Hulk but I have no idea who that was for at all (I kid I kid)

So we are already getting programed that there is adult star wars and adult super heros JUST LIKE THE COMICS.

I think Feige got this figured out it's a balancing act.

But Morbius rating had absolutely nothing to do with that sh*t show.

Venom box office makes any rating arguments sound asinine.

Again its about fan base and quality.

We need to STOP lumping all these comic book movies together. It just don't work like that.

Ant man was a heist film Joker was psychological thriller winter solider action political drama Dr. Strange magical sci fi comedy horror.

And that is exactly how it should be.
Speaking the same language just a different word here and there.

One of my favorite movies from my childhood is Silver Bullet, the 1985 werewolf movie. They didn't really show the werewolf head on until the end of the movie. They showed reflections, quick cuts, shadows - anything but showing the full werewolf.

I wouldn't change a thing on how that movie was shot

I'm about to watch that right now
 

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Speaking the same language just a different word here and there.

One of my favorite movies from my childhood is Silver Bullet, the 1985 werewolf movie. They didn't really show the werewolf head on until the end of the movie. They showed reflections, quick cuts, shadows - anything but showing the full werewolf.

I wouldn't change a thing on how that movie was shot

I'm about to watch that right now

^^^^

My brother from another!

Disney need to study that.

And after werewolf by night (which I enjoyed) I see they on the right track.

The good thing is Blade isn't going to be biting necks anyway. You need him SAVING lives and dusting vampires in the coolest ways possible for about an hour and 45 minutes.

You want vampires werewolves demons spirits and random bad guys etc.

Honestly?

I would have went to Chad Stahelski, Gareth Evans and Matt Flannery with a blank check and said please fix Blade, Moon Knight, Daredevil, Punisher, Falcon, Winter Soldier, new Black Widow, Kate Bishop, Dora Milaje for us please. PG but no R unless you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. (what you think @ViCiouS )
 

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What's funny is a few years ago Todd McFarlane criticized Deadpool for being a light R. He claimed he'll remake Spawn and it will deserve an R with gratuitous violence and nudity.

I'd love to see it but McFarlane didn't have the balls to make the '97 Spawn an R rated movie meanwhile the next year Blade came out rated R and wiped Spawn from everyone's memories.
 

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The way they're going Mahershala Ali is going to have to play Whistler and the young brother from Stranger Things will end up being Blade.


The way Disney is doing with the MCU and Star Wars;I forgot about about this movie. Maybe,it's the expectations but Disney been missing by a wide margin every since Phase 3 ended. There's only a few movies and TV shows I enjoy.

I find it crazy that Disney can't get Blade together.
 

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The way Disney is doing with the MCU and Star Wars;I forgot about about this movie. Maybe,it's the expectations but Disney been missing by a wide margin every since Phase 3 ended. There's only a few movies and TV shows I enjoy.

I find it crazy that Disney can't get Blade together.

Or that they made such a huge announcement about the film and choosing a star without having a solid script in place and ready to be shot.

There was a lot of buzz when it was announced and had they pulled it off the film was damn near a blockbuster slam dunk.

Now its looking grim.

No script means another two years minimum before there's a finished product.

Black Panther 2 had to deal with COVID and losing the franchise star and still was able to pull it together decently so the struggle this production is having doesn't make sense.
 

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Good take the time and get it right...

Looks like the old Disney CEO was going to push out some bullshit and Bob came back and said slow it down and get back to quality...
 

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Good take the time and get it right...

Looks like the old Disney CEO was going to push out some bullshit and Bob came back and said slow it down and get back to quality...

nah

 

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nah


So the article is basically saying Bob created the problem by hiring his boy... I could careless about dude showering twice a day...

And the board brought him back to fix the issues he created... and one of his first steps is slowing down the content and refocusing on the quality...

seems like a win / win
 

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They are doing a massive disrespect to Snipes, marvel fans and Stan Lee for not getting this together. This should not be this hard. I think that part of the problem is they are trying to do too much. Too many ideas, too many changes, too many egos. The end product is going to end up suffering. Reminds me of Congress.
 

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I have a feeling they made that shit some PG vampire comedy. At least Mahershala is making sure it's right.
 

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It's really crazy how much they're finding new ways to fuck this up. At this point I wonder if rather have a movie about Blade dealing with the studio ruining his movie as he unearths a conspiracy dealing with the vampires who run Hollywood who are just hating on him. On some Cabin in The Woods shit.
 

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O you think blade 3

How you gonna have a movie name Blade but he's gonna be the fourth lead in his own movie....


:smh::smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:

They did it already....what do think happened in Blade3?? thats shit was a soft pilot to launch a franchise for hannibal king and whistlers daughter..:rolleyes2::rolleyes2: Thats why Jennifer beals and ryan reynolds had more screen time and lines.

so its not unprecedented...
 

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They did it already....what do think happened in Blade3?? thats shit was a soft pilot to launch a franchise for hannibal king and whistlers daughter..:rolleyes2::rolleyes2: Thats why Jennifer beals and ryan reynolds had more screen time and lines.

so its not unprecedented...
Are you making excuses for that shit? He hasn't even made one movie yet and they tried to supplant him and diminish his role. This is blade not vampire huntin' strong wimmin featuring blade.
 
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