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BKF

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Man, that shit was HANDED to her because it was 'supposedly' her turn because she's a female. Bernie and Stein were just as relevant as Agents of change and Hillary was with keeping the Status Quo.

Muhfuckas fell by the wayside to pave her path, and in the end, Bernie caved to keep the peace and did MORE damn campaigning on her behalf than SHE continued to do.

Bernie was THE threat to the Democratic Party.

But alas, I voted for Stein because they spoke on reparations.
Bernie and Stein became relevant after the fact and not before the fact that the field was cleared.

2014

"Hillary Rodham Clinton holds a commanding 6 to 1 lead over other Democrats heading into the 2016 presidential campaign, while the Republican field is deeply divided with no clear front-runner, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.


Clinton trounces her potential primary rivals with 73 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, reinforcing a narrative of inevitability around her nomination if she runs. Vice President Biden is second with 12 percent, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) is third with 8 percent.


Although Clinton’s favorability rating has fallen since she stepped down as secretary of state a year ago, she has broad Democratic support across ideological, gender, ethnic and class lines. Her lead is the largest recorded in an early primary matchup in at least 30 years of Post-ABC polling."

Notice Sanders isn't even mentioned as someone in contention for the democratic nomination. Because Hillary loomed so large over the other two. Both decided to stay out of the race. Martin O'Malley stepped in but couldn't committee against Hillary so he dropped out (no complaining from Bernie or the Bernie Bros). This is when Bernie became relevant and not beforehand.
Now if Bernie was such a populist and a threat to the democratic party. Then why did he decide to run under the democratic nomination vs running as a third party candidate and really threatened the democratic party??







This is September 2015



"Sanders is especially well-known in New Hampshire since his entire political career has been based in neighboring Vermont, and he has been campaigning heavily in Iowa.

What stands out in the national chart is that Clinton’s lead has diminished sharply over the summer — faster than Sanders has made gains. Even though he hasn’t publicly decided whether to run, Vice President Joe Biden is pulling an increasingly large share of Clinton’s supporters. According to a new ABC/Washington Post poll, the former secretary of state’s support drops 14 points — from 56 percent to 42 percent — when Biden is in the race. In July, Clinton was losing only 5 percent of her support to Biden.

It’s entirely possible that Sanders’ numbers could rise nationally as people become more familiar with him. But Sanders supporters shouldn’t get too excited, nor should Clinton supporters get too fearful, based on these early surveys. While the polls show how the race stands right now, it’s likely the numbers will change drastically between today and when actualy voting starts in New Hampshire and Iowa. Early primary polls are good measures of how well-known the candidates are, but they aren’t very good at predicting eventual winners."
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Shaka54

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Notice Sanders isn't even mentioned as someone in contention for the democratic nomination. Because Hillary loomed so large over the other two. Both decided to stay out of the race. Martin O'Malley stepped in but couldn't committee against Hillary so he dropped out (no complaining from Bernie or the Bernie Bros).

This is when Bernie became relevant and not beforehand.


Now if Bernie was such a populist and a threat to the democratic party. Then why did he decide to run under the democratic nomination vs running as a third party candidate and really threatened the democratic party??
Bernie's always caucused WITH the Democratic Party; what, was he supposed to nudge out the Green Party? Why would a Bernie Bro complain about O'Malley dropping out?

Bernie was plenty relevant prior to the DNC that handed the nomination to Hillary. It doesn't matter if she was leading for the 25 miles of the marathon, she got walked down to a photo finish and was handed the win.
 

Shaka54

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and Bernie would? How so?
From offering change that the Establishment believes he'll attempt...not just HOPE, but real effort. He stands a better chance but then some of the support for various issues will get in the way too. LGBTQ and Immigration issues come to mind. CACs are nervous and fraying at the edges.

I still think he could win the popular vote anyway though.
 

BKF

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Bernie's always caucused WITH the Democratic Party; what, was he supposed to nudge out the Green Party? Why would a Bernie Bro complain about O'Malley dropping out?

Bernie was plenty relevant prior to the DNC that handed the nomination to Hillary. It doesn't matter if she was leading for the 25 miles of the marathon, she got walked down to a photo finish and was handed the win.
Who cares that he always caucused with the democrats. If he wanted any relevance he had to caucuses with them.
The bottomline is that he was not a democrat and still isn't a democrat. Once again if Bernie is such a populist but he was supposedly fucked by the DNC. Then why not run as a third party candidate the second time around?
As far as why would Bernie complain about O'Malley dropping out. My question is why is he and his supporters complaining in 2020 that Bootyjudge, Warren, etc...dropped out?
He didn't walk shit down. He lost most of the primaries (large groups of voters) but won most of the caucuses (small groups of voters).
2020 with most states now only having primaries and not caucuses is only showing how weak Sanders was in 2016.
 
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BKF

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From offering change that the Establishment believes he'll attempt...not just HOPE, but real effort. He stands a better chance but then some of the support for various issues will get in the way too. LGBTQ and Immigration issues come to mind. CACs are nervous and fraying at the edges.

I still think he could win the popular vote anyway though.
You're not giving me anything of substances to lead me and many of the other people who did not vote for Sanders to believe that he would have a better chance against Trump. All you are doing is giving me what you think.
We heard before that because Bernie has energy, large crowds, young voters, etc....that he was going to win the primaries and Biden will be dead. None of that proved to be true. So how are we supposed to believe what you guys are saying now about Sander's chances against Trump?
 
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Shaka54

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You're not giving me anything of substances to lead me and many of the other people who did not vote for Sanders that he would have a better chance against Trump. All you are doing is giving me what you think.
We heard before that because Bernie has energy, large crowds, young voters, etc....that he was going to win the primaries and Biden will be dead. None of that proved to be true. So how are we supposed to believe what you guys are saying now about Sander's chances against Trump?
I have nothing more to offer you than the sense of support for each. It's the Bernie Bros vs the MAGA-Maniacs. If Biden did happen to bow out for any reason, Black voters ARE NOT gonna pull what CAC women did and vote for Drumph in droves.
 

BKF

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I have nothing more to offer you than the sense of support for each. It's the Bernie Bros vs the MAGA-Maniacs. If Biden did happen to bow out for any reason, Black voters ARE NOT gonna pull what CAC women did and vote for Drumph in droves.
As I explained to another poster. White women voted as they've always voted and that is mostly for republicans.

Trump 53%
McCain 53%
Romney 56
Bush 55%
Reagan something like 60%
 

Gods_Debris

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We need a study first. Just writing a check and giving a stack to a bunch of white non voters will do them no good. Theyll just end up blowing it on opioids. Id like to see Congress create a panel for this to be discussed further before we just start handing out cash.
Perfect. /thread
 

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You're right dawg
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You asked a question and got an answer. While you may like to do those things. Many others have no problem buying online, and after this, even more people will be ordering online.
Do those things truth mentioned need stimulation if they're still up and running or is the money for the support of the businesses that had to close?
 

BKF

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Do those things truth mentioned need stimulation if they're still up and running or is the money for the support of the businesses that had to close?
Well your question was how is the economy going to get stimulated if everything is closed. As he told you everything isn't closed and a lot people are ordering takeout, ordering products online, and going into businesses that are open. Unlike big corporations, people aren't hoarding their cash, or buying back stocks. It's going right back into the economy. I'm just saying you asked a question, got an answer, but you didn't like the answer. Therefore you did a little change up in your followup and still trying to be right.
 

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You're right dawg
OG Investor
Well your question was how is the economy going to get stimulated if everything is closed. As he told you everything isn't closed and a lot people are ordering takeout, ordering products online, and going into businesses that are open. Unlike big corporations, people aren't hoarding their cash, or buying back stocks. It's going right back into the economy. I'm just saying you asked a question, got an answer, but you didn't like the answer. Therefore you did a little change up in your followup and still trying to be right.
I wasn't serious. I'm lol at your serious replies. You think I'm buying j's and gucci.:lol:This aint nothing to be right about.
 

LordSinister

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Bruh if you have the money to pay it. I suggest you pay it and ignore the news. It is NOT like they are going to give you the house for free.
You will not benefit by not paying your mortgage. I hope that makes sense.
My manager said she’s showing the place on Friday so thats good. I was still going to pay the interest but the insurance and taxes are all bundled in it. I got enough saved for 6 months but I like having cash on hand.
 
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