Dallas cop enters wrong apartment, kills Black man Botham Jean who lives there [LIVE TRIAL LINK]

[D24OHA]

Wow... The NRA.... just can't help themselves...

So now the NRA is basically saying that if he Had a Gun.... He would have been able to shoot the cop. So in order to keep their agenda they are willing to say.. .Well if he had a gun.... He should have shot the cop..

The police unions should be all over this!! The

NRA just declared they are playing on both sides of the fence. They don't give a damn about private citizens (especially minorities), we knew that and now they are saying (fuck the police) the police can get it too! Where is the fucking outrage over this?
A rap group with less than $1mill says it when 5 of em hold a gun... Theres fucking news headlines, fbi investigations and public shame

This is a MULTI-BILLION dollar organization that lobbies, campaigns and flat out influences people to action..... Not a damn peep from anyone???!!! Seriously?!

 

[D24OHA]

Councilman and mayor saying a few bad apples spoiled the bunch...


Or hey we can save some money and blame it on this....

Either way, I'll take the result l

 

[phanatic]

At the end of the day, she's a Black Female Cop who feels that's it's her job to protect cops. When Jacqueline Craig and her daughters were attacked and violently arrested by an El Paso cop after ignoring a white man that choked her son, the Black male El Paso police chief gave his officer a slap on the wrist 10-day suspension. What was his excuse?

That's why it's systemic. Just like a McDonalds, a yoga teacher can't buy a franchise then decide to stop serving Big Macs. What is it with these black chiefs always being in charge when an innocent black person is killed by one of their cops? You'd think that there are only black police chiefs in America.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

Well at least she got fired,so thats a small victory..

 

[D24OHA]

Well at least she got fired,so thats a small victory..

Well I'll be damn U. Renee actually did it

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/24/dallas-police-officer-accused-in-neighbors-death-fired/

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

You gotta love these police unions,they'll shield one of their own(when the officer is white)when shit like this happens,yet turn into children when someone call them out on their bullshit....

 

[cocobeauty]

I don't like how Chief Hall handled this, but I refuse to label this woman based on just this. I'm sure she was crossing her T's and doting her I's just like anyone else would.
Then to say she probably think black men ain't shit. Nothing about this woman comes off like that. Typical black men on some bullshit about a black woman in charge.

Sometimes I think yall don't think yall shit.

 

[darth frosty]

 

[LSN]

Then to say she probably think black men ain't shit.

ya whoever said that pulled that shit completely out of their ass...a lot of dudes here draw awful conclusions tho...I do think it’s “simply” a case of blue shielding blue tho

 

[ankhheru]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Once a black person joins the LEO they stop being BLACK and start being BLUE. The only time they even remotely believe they are black is when they get shot by there white counterparts offduty/undercover or when there children are killed/harassed by there white counterparts. Other than that they are blue once they take that oath.

 

[cocobeauty]

ya whoever said that pulled that shit completely out of their ass...a lot of dudes here draw awful conclusions tho...I do think it’s “simply” a case of blue shielding blue tho

yeah I believe that too, and knowing if she didn't do it completely by the book, they would have her on the line about it next.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Once a black person joins the LEO they stop being BLACK and start being BLUE. The only time they even remotely believe they are black is when they get shot by there white counterparts offduty/undercover or when there children are killed/harassed by there white counterparts. Other than that they are blue once they take that oath.

I disagree about black stop being black. I know too many blacks that are LEO and they are just like blacks joining the military, very few are gung ho for this country, but most see it as a means to an end out of certain situations, like getting out the hood, etc and for the most part easy money and a long career. Just recently did policing start looking like a shitty job, because most saw it as a easy job of riding in the car all day, giving out a few tickets, and arresting a knuckle head every now and then.

I don't know not one black that has agreed with any of the bullshit we've seen lately. And remember I said THAT I KNOW.

 

[ankhheru]

yeah I believe that too, and knowing if she didn't do it completely by the book, they would have her on the line about it next.



I disagree about black stop being black. I know too many blacks that are LEO and they are just like blacks joining the military, very few are gung ho for this country, but most see it as a means to an end out of certain situations, like getting out the hood, etc and for the most part easy money and a long career. Just recently did policing start looking like a shitty job, because most saw it as a easy job of riding in the car all day, giving out a few tickets, and arresting a knuckle head every now and then.

I don't know not one black that has agreed with any of the bullshit we've seen lately. And remember I said THAT I KNOW.

I said what I said because they don't speak out or speak up. They can feel some kind of way all they want but rarely and I mean rarely do you see one stand up to there own. They might cry on the shoulders of family and friends but ain't nobody filling out any reports or complaints or getting up in a witness seat. That's facts. They know that at the end of the day they're blue.

 

[hocjo2626]

yeah I believe that too, and knowing if she didn't do it completely by the book, they would have her on the line about it next.

I don't know not one black that has agreed with any of the bullshit we've seen lately. And remember I said THAT I KNOW.

Well then, it sure would be nice to see them come speak out against and try to do something about all of that bullshit. I always hear that 99.5% of cop are good hard working cops. Well, when all of this bullshit goes down I NEVER hear from that outstanding 99.5%. As Ice Cube said on Bill Maher in reference to the meaning of his song Good Cop Bad Cop, "We appealing to the good cops out there. Turn these dude in. Turn these muthafuckas in. The bad cops. We sick of'em." I agree with this wholeheartedly.

Go to the 7:19 Mark.

 

[cocobeauty]

I said what I said because they don't speak out or speak up. They can feel some kind of way all they want but rarely and I mean rarely do you see one stand up to there own. They might cry on the shoulders of family and friends but ain't nobody filling out any reports or complaints or getting up in a witness seat. That's facts. They know that at the end of the day they're blue.

Do we know if they are turning each other in? We say stuff because we don't see it publicly, but doesn't mean it's not happening. And I'm not saying it is, but do we know that it's not? Again there is a way to do anything and we all trying to survive in this wicked country.

 

[cocobeauty]

Well then, it sure would be nice to see them come speak out against and try to do something about all of that bullshit. I always hear that 99.5% of cop are good hard working cops. Well, when all of this bullshit goes down I NEVER hear from that outstanding 99.5%. As Ice Cube said on Bill Maher in reference to the meaning of his song Good Cop Bad Cop, "We appealing to the good cops out there. Turn these dude in. Turn these muthafuckas in. The bad cops. We sick of'em." I agree with this wholeheartedly.

Go to the 7:19 Mark.

I hear you loud and clear, but what we're asking someone to do is to come out in the public and speak out and then they're out of a job and then we as a community will say, "well no one told that nigga to do that...that's his dumb ass that lost his job". We don't support each other in whistle blowing even when it benefits us.

As fucked up as it sounds, I hope they are doing the paperwork and turning the bad cops in, but don't fuck up their paper for it, because the black community will protest and not pay one damn bill you have for speaking out.

 

[hocjo2626]

Do we know if they are turning each other in? We say stuff because we don't see it publicly, but doesn't mean it's not happening. And I'm not saying it is, but do we know that it's not? Again there is a way to do anything and we all trying to survive in this wicked country.

I would say we do know that they are not turning each other in because those rotten muthafuckas are still on the streets murdering our fuckin asses and getting away with it.

 

[hocjo2626]

I hear you loud and clear, but what we're asking someone to do is to come out in the public and speak out and then they're out of a job and then we as a community will say, "well no one told that nigga to do that...that's his dumb ass that lost his job". We don't support each other in whistle blowing even when it benefits us.

As fucked up as it sounds, I hope they are doing the paperwork and turning the bad cops in, but don't fuck up their paper for it, because the black community will protest and not pay one damn bill you have for speaking out.

Well then without any accountability the police department will continue to be the nations most notorious street gang with an extreme "no snitching" policy.

 

[LSN]

I said what I said because they don't speak out or speak up. They can feel some kind of way all they want but rarely and I mean rarely do you see one stand up to there own. They might cry on the shoulders of family and friends but ain't nobody filling out any reports or complaints or getting up in a witness seat. That's facts. They know that at the end of the day they're blue.

ya that’s my issue...I know a couple of black policemen who are cool off the clock but I can’t help but think when they’re on the job if/when they see white officers hemming up black men do they step up and do anything about it on the scene?

 

[phanatic]

Well then, it sure would be nice to see them come speak out against and try to do something about all of that bullshit. I always hear that 99.5% of cop are good hard working cops. Well, when all of this bullshit goes down I NEVER hear from that outstanding 99.5%. As Ice Cube said on Bill Maher in reference to the meaning of his song Good Cop Bad Cop, "We appealing to the good cops out there. Turn these dude in. Turn these muthafuckas in. The bad cops. We sick of'em." I agree with this wholeheartedly.

Go to the 7:19 Mark.

Ari Schaffer was on Joe Rogan's podcast and he even acknowledged that the bad cops aren't the biggest problem, it's the cop standing by watching instead of saying "Yo Tony what the fuck are you doing?"

 

[sammyjax]

I hear you loud and clear, but what we're asking someone to do is to come out in the public and speak out and then they're out of a job and then we as a community will say, "well no one told that nigga to do that...that's his dumb ass that lost his job". We don't support each other in whistle blowing even when it benefits us.

As fucked up as it sounds, I hope they are doing the paperwork and turning the bad cops in, but don't fuck up their paper for it, because the black community will protest and not pay one damn bill you have for speaking out.

I have NEVER seen this situation you are describing.

I fucks w you coco, you sounding mad apologist right now though. Like you married to or related to or work w the folks.

Never in my life have I seen a black cop speak out against his dirty white counterparts, lose his job for it, and be ridiculed by the black community. That shit sound made up af.

 

[ankhheru]

Do we know if they are turning each other in? We say stuff because we don't see it publicly, but doesn't mean it's not happening. And I'm not saying it is, but do we know that it's not? Again there is a way to do anything and we all trying to survive in this wicked country.

ya that’s my issue...I know a couple of black policemen who are cool off the clock but I can’t help but think when they’re on the job if/when they see white officers hemming up black men do they step up and do anything about it on the scene?

We know because just like in the military they don't get to keep there jobs and/or get reprimanded if they do and those that speak out and lose those jobs and/or get reprimanded have no problem going public. I served in the military and I spoke out about foul shit I saw and got reprimanded and passed over for promotions and had no problems with speaking out about what they did to me and the folks I spoke up for. I took my shit to the op-ed section of the base newspaper going over everybody head. It cost me my career but it is what it is. I'll be damned if cacs in my chain of command will be wearing shirts with confederate flags around my family with the phrase "Lincoln was wrong and the south shall rise again". All the while shitting on black troops and showing favoritism to whites. The black higher ups wanted me to keep quiet and keep my head down and don't make waves. That's the mindset of most blacks in jobs like LEO and the military. Keep your head low and don't make waves. Go with the flow and act like you don't see it. Hell some of them even act like they don't hear the racist jokes or actually laugh along with them. Just keeping there heads down and not making waves. Then they go home and have there friends and family thinking they all pro black.

 

[ankhheru]

They like to say keep your head low, don't make waves. Wait until you get some rank then make changes. What they don't tell you is once they make that rank they too busy trying to pay off that mortgage and kids college and retire so they ain't trying to say shit real then. Now they company men and ain't no fight left in em.

 

[cocobeauty]

I have NEVER seen this situation you are describing.

I fucks w you coco, you sounding mad apologist right now though. Like you married to or related to or work w the folks.

Never in my life have I seen a black cop speak out against his dirty white counterparts, lose his job for it, and be ridiculed by the black community. That shit sound made up af.

I'm not apologizing for nothing I'm saying, I'll never marry a police officer, definitely related to a few, friends with a few, but that has nothing to do with nothing.

My point is we don't know if they're reporting bad officers or not. I'm sure it's a process just like any other position. And please don't misunderstand because I'm not pro-police but I'm tired of us coming down on other blacks because publicly we don't know what's happening.
Like what was said about the chief....

 

[cocobeauty]

Well then without any accountability the police department will continue to be the nations most notorious street gang with an extreme "no snitching" policy.

No one EVER said anything about not snitching.

Yall are not paying attention to what I'm saying.

 

[Mixd]

My cuz just sent me a video of some guy named Bo that made a 7 min vid via WhatsApp saying that he thinks the reason they are hesitant to pull murder on the cop because what she really did was break an entering and committed murder.

If she committed murder then that is Capitol Murder means execution in Texas and we know that ain't happening...

 

[hocjo2626]

We know because just like in the military they don't get to keep there jobs and/or get reprimanded if they do and those that speak out and lose those jobs and/or get reprimanded have no problem going public. I served in the military and I spoke out about foul shit I saw and got reprimanded and passed over for promotions and had no problems with speaking out about what they did to me and the folks I spoke up for. I took my shit to the op-ed section of the base newspaper going over everybody head. It cost me my career but it is what it is. I'll be damned if cacs in my chain of command will be wearing shirts with confederate flags around my family with the phrase "Lincoln was wrong and the south shall rise again". All the while shitting on black troops and showing favoritism to whites. The black higher ups wanted me to keep quiet and keep my head down and don't make waves. That's the mindset of most blacks in jobs like LEO and the military. Keep your head low and don't make waves. Go with the flow and act like you don't see it. Hell some of them even act like they don't hear the racist jokes or actually laugh along with them. Just keeping there heads down and not making waves. Then they go home and have there friends and family thinking they all pro black.

"Thank You sir."

We need more like you in law enforcement. Thanks for your sacrifice. This is what it takes. Props! You stood for something so you don't fall for anything.

 

[Mixd]

We know because just like in the military they don't get to keep there jobs and/or get reprimanded if they do and those that speak out and lose those jobs and/or get reprimanded have no problem going public. I served in the military and I spoke out about foul shit I saw and got reprimanded and passed over for promotions and had no problems with speaking out about what they did to me and the folks I spoke up for. I took my shit to the op-ed section of the base newspaper going over everybody head. It cost me my career but it is what it is. I'll be damned if cacs in my chain of command will be wearing shirts with confederate flags around my family with the phrase "Lincoln was wrong and the south shall rise again". All the while shitting on black troops and showing favoritism to whites. The black higher ups wanted me to keep quiet and keep my head down and don't make waves. That's the mindset of most blacks in jobs like LEO and the military. Keep your head low and don't make waves. Go with the flow and act like you don't see it. Hell some of them even act like they don't hear the racist jokes or actually laugh along with them. Just keeping there heads down and not making waves. Then they go home and have there friends and family thinking they all pro black.

For this exact reason is why I'm worried that you have the DA and Chief, both black, and don't know what political party the chief is, but the DA is repub, so you kinda already can assume what side she leaning towards and will play the "justice" will prevail and "let the Rangers do their thorough investigation", not displaying how she feels inside, if she has any morals. Who knows. But to not take action for the positions you hold, other cities they wouldn't play that.

In NYC, the mayor would of been riding the chief to fire the cop from day one and demand something. Other places do not want the news pressure. Texas I just think has been doing good for the good ole boys too long and just feel things will blow over as things usually do.

 

[ankhheru]

For this exact reason is why I'm worried that you have the DA and Chief, both black, and don't know what political party the chief is, but the DA is repub, so you kinda already can assume what side she leaning towards and will play the "justice" will prevail and "let the Rangers do their thorough investigation", not displaying how she feels inside, if she has any morals. Who knows. But to not take action for the positions you hold, other cities they wouldn't play that.

In NYC, the mayor would of been riding the chief to fire the cop from day one and demand something. Other places do not want the news pressure. Texas I just think has been doing good for the good ole boys too long and just feel things will blow over as things usually do.

That bullshit I went through was when I was stationed in Texas at Fort Hood. I know Texas is full of that good old boy network bullshit. They fly that confederate flag proud and some black folks wear cowboy hats. I didn't see that much bullshit in klantucky.

 

[Mixd]

That bullshit I went through was when I was stationed in Texas at Fort Hood. I know Texas is full of that good old boy network bullshit. They fly that confederate flag proud and some black folks wear cowboy hats

Look, I've seen some black folks display the confederate flag proudly and say that only those from the north dont understand. I was like wtf.

 

[sammyjax]

I'm not apologizing for nothing I'm saying, I'll never marry a police officer, definitely related to a few, friends with a few, but that has nothing to do with nothing.

My point is we don't know if they're reporting bad officers or not. I'm sure it's a process just like any other position. And please don't misunderstand because I'm not pro-police but I'm tired of us coming down on other blacks because publicly we don't know what's happening.
Like what was said about the chief....

You trying to prove a negative

Just look at it like this

There's basically zero examples of what you're saying vs a thousand examples daily of the opposite

Can't say "we don't know what they doing" and "when they do it we shit talk them for it" in the same breath man, that's crazy.

If they was doing that shit you'd know it. Or SOMEBODY would know. That's what whistle blowing is! Telling!

This entire argument exists because basically everyone here knows this thing, it's not like these niggas are just getting attached for nothing.

All these muthafuckas get is passes, and they supposed to be the most responsible and rule abiding muhfuckas in the land. That shit is a lie.

I'll split the difference and say that I live in a mostly black city with a damn near totally black police force, and as such don't have much racially motivated bs outta them. And because of my job, I've gotten pretty cool with a large number of them, so I get the argument that they can be cool people.

That shit don't change what niggas is saying about the rest of them though, and tbh most of these niggas still power tripping lames that's cool with you because they know you.

 

[cocobeauty]

That bullshit I went through was when I was stationed in Texas at Fort Hood. I know Texas is full of that good old boy network bullshit. They fly that confederate flag proud and some black folks wear cowboy hats. I didn't see that much bullshit in klantucky.

Ok, I'm going to use this as an example. When we were stationed in Germany and I worked in Military personnel, people would come file complaints or come in and talk to the E-7 I worked with, he was a white dude, and he would say this shit will never see the light of day, because either he like the people or he was too fucking lazy to follow through with the grievance. I would mentioned it to the Major that we both worked for and that's when shit would get done. My point is, they may be reporting but who are they reporting it to?

After this I digress, because I'm not for the police ever, but I am for my people always.

 

[ankhheru]

Ok, I'm going to use this as an example. When we were stationed in Germany and I worked in Military personnel, people would come file complaints or come in and talk to the E-7 I worked with, he was a white dude, and he would say this shit will never see the light of day, because either he like the people or he was too fucking lazy to follow through with the grievance. I would mentioned it to the Major that we both worked for and that's when shit would get done. My point is, they may be reporting but who are they reporting it to?

After this I digress, because I'm not for the police ever, but I am for my people always.

What I gave you was the exact same example except the people I initially reported it to was black senior nco's in my chain (who said keep my head low) . I then walked it up the chain to the white officers (who where friends with the offender) . The shit rolled back downhill on me. Why? I didn't keep my head low. I didn't keep quite and let the good old boys do what they do. The scared niggas didn't protect me. Even though I was right in defending myself, my family, there family and other black troops. I got reprimanded for standing up so I took the fight public. I went to the press. I shined a light on all them cacs and those coon ass nco's. Fuck a paycheck if I can't look my family in the face. I can always earn a dollar but I only get one chance to earn my family's respect. I can't hide being a dark skin black man so I wear it with honor.

 

[phanatic]

Look, I've seen some black folks display the confederate flag proudly and say that only those from the north dont understand. I was like wtf.

I don't have to be Mexican to know what a quinceanera means...I can crack open a history book and read about the Confederate flag. Any person in the world is capable of this!

 

[Mixd]

I don't have to be Mexican to know what a quinceanera means...I can crack open a history book and read about the Confederate flag. Any person in the world is capable of this!

Some of them will defend it:
"this our history Mayne!"

More power to you bruh. Pointless to discuss it. I just say you win

 

[The Plutonian]

Ok, I'm going to use this as an example. When we were stationed in Germany and I worked in Military personnel, people would come file complaints or come in and talk to the E-7 I worked with, he was a white dude, and he would say this shit will never see the light of day, because either he like the people or he was too fucking lazy to follow through with the grievance. I would mentioned it to the Major that we both worked for and that's when shit would get done. My point is, they may be reporting but who are they reporting it to?

After this I digress, because I'm not for the police ever, but I am for my people always.

This was all too common. People in positions of authority in the military being afraid to intervene when they see blatant racism or other issues. The fuck you scared of? Like ol bitch ass Lt Col Udoka. With a name like that you know he was from Africa. Black as soot but a real Oreo cookie motherfucker. I hate sorry, scared afraid to get involved mfs. Cowards. Many careers got ruined over dumbshit because nobody called them on their bullshit.