Dallas cop enters wrong apartment, kills Black man Botham Jean who lives there [LIVE TRIAL LINK]

[fonzerrillii]

Late to thread. But has anyone mention the fact that he had police gear in his apartment which could be hers and possibly leads to them fucking or she left it there after the shooting when investigators showed up

That shit was hers.... likely left there after the shooting and kept as evidence but the warrant just happens to say none of that shit so it can appear that it was his.

Honestly I don’t think any of that shit is his. That’s why I’m pissed that old girl wasn’t drug tested immediately after.

 

[Coldchi]

That shit was hers.... likely left there after the shooting and kept as evidence but the warrant just happens to say none of that shit so it can appear that it was his.

Honestly I don’t think any of that shit is his. That’s why I’m pissed that old girl wasn’t drug tested immediately after.

Yeah the police gear was hers. They can't remove anything from the scene after a shooting. And she was immediately tested after the shooting....(so they say). With most departments that's protocol. Regardless if it was an accidental shooting or done on purpose.....pigs have got to be held accountable.

 

[Mixd]

That shit was hers.... likely left there after the shooting and kept as evidence but the warrant just happens to say none of that shit so it can appear that it was his.

Honestly I don’t think any of that shit is his. That’s why I’m pissed that old girl wasn’t drug tested immediately after.

Yeah the police gear was hers. They can't remove anything from the scene after a shooting. And she was immediately tested after the shooting....(so they say). With most departments that's protocol. Regardless if it was an accidental shooting or done on purpose.....pigs have got to be held accountable.

What gear? I didn't get the memo. When did this development happen?

 

[Coldchi]

What gear? I didn't get the memo. When did this development happen?

They posted a list of things taken from his apartment after following through on the search warrant.

 

[Mixd]

They posted a list of things taken from his apartment after following through on the search warrant.

You know what I did see this, but all I was looking at was the amount of weed and really never noticed the rest of stuff.

What does bother me is what they collected and why. The equipment I'd think is hers, not left there from previous but probably placed to make it look like she thought she was home.

In red are items of my concern that are questionable. Why collect those items.

"2 fired cartridge casings
1 laptop computer
1 black backpack with police equipment and paperwork
1 insulated lunch box
1 black ballistic vest with "police" markings
10.4 grams of marijuana in zip-lock bags
1 metal marijuana grinder
2 RFID keys
2 used packages of medical aid

The document does not disclose whom the items belonged to."

 

[phanatic]

That shit was hers.... likely left there after the shooting and kept as evidence but the warrant just happens to say none of that shit so it can appear that it was his.

Honestly I don’t think any of that shit is his. That’s why I’m pissed that old girl wasn’t drug tested immediately after.

I'm tired of hearing that drug tests take weeks to come back. They take a few days when not prioritized...they could get that test back in less than 24 hours if they really wanted to.

 

[unknownsoldier]

Bro I’ve been following this closely moms never once said she forgave her.. when moms first came up here she said she wanted answers that’s all she wanted and then once she saw they were trying to smear her sons name she called the white bitch a devil... but she never once said she forgave the white bitch

I'm from & live in Dallas fam, that comment turned a lot of so called radical niggas off when she said it. These niggas ain't bout shit no way & it's fucked it she said it, but even worse they asking her for answers a day after & she in a damn foreign country.

 

[Gods_Debris]

This is one the most painfully obvious and stupid things I've ever encountered in politics. The notion that "conservative" politics is any kind of governmental solution. The shit is built right into the name, "conservative."

The notion they could fix an economic situation they created by doing the same kind of politics they've ALWAYS done? Humans have no hope. Evolve.

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

She was going with the dude and got mad because he wanted to quit her and break their relationship off. Also they found some of her equipment in his apartment and I guess that was from the relationship they had earlier.

 

[The Plutonian]

Yea, she’s going mf lose this one. Still....the DA is up for re election and sadly judges and even juries often side with cops even when they know they wrong. Finish her! Leave nothing!

 

[lightbright]

Caught....



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[ORIGINAL NATION]

He was heard saying to her why did you do that. They say there is no evidence of them knowing each other. But we know she is lying. I have been trying to figure out what is up with the protection of her. He was texting when she killed him. Right now it is hard to trust the investigation. She seems like a regular white lady until this case came up.

 

[phanatic]

She was going with the dude and got mad because he wanted to quit her and break their relationship off. Also they found some of her equipment in his apartment and I guess that was from the relationship they had earlier.

I hope those sisters don't have any legal issues. You know those crooked cops are going to push on them to change their story if they have any dirt on them. I think this is one of those cases where you fall on the sword for righteousness sake.

 

[Mixd]

She was going with the dude and got mad because he wanted to quit her and break their relationship off. Also they found some of her equipment in his apartment and I guess that was from the relationship they had earlier.

Really finding it hard to swallow this pill. I'm still going with my original theory that she was complaining about the noise and banged on his door to complain then things ensued.

You are forgetting she has had previous noise complaints against him? Up to the very morning of the shooting? They are trying to sway the public with this BS about her gear being there as if she dropped her gear probably as you normally would when you walk into "your" home nonsense. I'm sure the first "boss" or sergeant that came on the scene told her how to construct her story. I have been on scene and seen shit first hand how they will twist a story to make a better narrative if shit hits the fan. I am sure they never expected this to blow up in the media to this magnitude or grow legs as it has, but too many are watching and finding holes.

My questions still stand to the above contents of his apt that they took above.

Why is a lunch box circumstantial evidence? Was that hers and they are trying to show as part of her evidence "coming home"?
A laptop? Why would they take his laptop, or was that hers left there also from "coming home" from her shift?
And two pieces of first aid used? To show she tried to give first aid to him for sympathy at the trial?

Any police gear or her belongings I think were placed there after.

Anyone tell me, you walking into YOUR apartment, with the door ajar, AND look at the list of her belongings, you a little tiny 115 pound woman. Carrying utility belt, laptop, vest, lunchbox and your backpack. You see your door cracked, you aint leaving that shit at the front door and entering with caution and yelling inside, saying "hey who's in here, come out" something, anything?

Look at what's presented, maybe I just look at things differently weighing all that's presented to me. Human psyche just doesn't add up to me. And this aint no jilted lover type shit. You ain't gonna call a noise complaint on your bf or side dude you fucking upstairs.

And you damn sure ain't leaving police departmental shit at his house. Tell me her draws or clothing was there in his bedroom is a different story. But why would you leave your job equipment there. No sense.

 

[DarkMatter-X]

He was heard saying to her why did you do that. They say there is no evidence of them knowing each other. But we know she is lying. I have been trying to figure out what is up with the protection of her. He was texting when she killed him. Right now it is hard to trust the investigation. She seems like a regular white lady until this case came up.

I don't know about "regular". She is a race soldier and a killer hiding behind a badge. These kats are in very strategic places. I worked at Lowes and knew them on sight. They knew that I recognized them by the way I responded to their slick racist comments and they always brag about how much armament they have.

 

[DarkMatter-X]

These race soldiers and militias have a lot of gov't connects. They may look kookoo with the Nazi haircuts and military boots with the tattoos and all but the are very well organized and they are eliminating black men with smooth precision.

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

I don't know about "regular". She is a race soldier and a killer hiding behind a badge. These kats are in very strategic places. I worked at Lowes and knew them on sight. They knew that I recognized them by the way I responded to their slick racist comments and they always brag about how much armament they have.

Has anybody heard the audio of the 911 call yet? If she is a race solider the only way she would be sneaking to have sex with him is if she had some virus to pass on thru him. But if we are seeing the beginning of being killed in our homes for no reason then we got a lot way to really start arming and organizing ourselves.

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

Really finding it hard to swallow this pill. I'm still going with my original theory that she was complaining about the noise and banged on his door to complain then things ensued.

You are forgetting she has had previous noise complaints against him? Up to the very morning of the shooting? They are trying to sway the public with this BS about her gear being there as if she dropped her gear probably as you normally would when you walk into "your" home nonsense. I'm sure the first "boss" or sergeant that came on the scene told her how to construct her story. I have been on scene and seen shit first hand how they will twist a story to make a better narrative if shit hits the fan. I am sure they never expected this to blow up in the media to this magnitude or grow legs as it has, but too many are watching and finding holes.

My questions still stand to the above contents of his apt that they took above.

Why is a lunch box circumstantial evidence? Was that hers and they are trying to show as part of her evidence "coming home"?
A laptop? Why would they take his laptop, or was that hers left there also from "coming home" from her shift?
And two pieces of first aid used? To show she tried to give first aid to him for sympathy at the trial?

Any police gear or her belongings I think were placed there after.

Anyone tell me, you walking into YOUR apartment, with the door ajar, AND look at the list of her belongings, you a little tiny 115 pound woman. Carrying utility belt, laptop, vest, lunchbox and your backpack. You see your door cracked, you aint leaving that shit at the front door and entering with caution and yelling inside, saying "hey who's in here, come out" something, anything?

Look at what's presented, maybe I just look at things differently weighing all that's presented to me. Human psyche just doesn't add up to me. And this aint no jilted lover type shit. You ain't gonna call a noise complaint on your bf or side dude you fucking upstairs.

And you damn sure ain't leaving police departmental shit at his house. Tell me her draws or clothing was there in his bedroom is a different story. But why would you leave your job equipment there. No sense.

Has anybody heard the audio of the 911 call? If it really was about the noise then she is way to dangerous to be carrying a gun and that job should have seen that in her.

 

[Mixd]

Has anybody heard the audio of the 911 call? If it really was about the noise then she is way to dangerous to be carrying a gun and that job should have seen that in her.

They haven't released that yet, but I'm sure she called someone else on the job or her commanding officer first anyways, then called 911

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[Mixd]

See the complete and utter

Can the Chief of Police fire Officer Guyger?

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[gene cisco]

See the complete and utter

Can the Chief of Police fire Officer Guyger?

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What fuckery. That blue code is more important than anything else for some people.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Look at the date it was the day after her son murdered .. ugk was right I’ll admit, I didn’t see her first statement . I’ll give her a pass because once the details came out and how law enforcement in Texas was stone walling moms have a press conference and verbatim she called them cacs devils..

we tried to tell you niggga

then u went on some, i been watching his moms closely ass nigga

 

[shaddyvillethug]

police chief needs to GO Also

 

[fonzerrillii]

She was going with the dude and got mad because he wanted to quit her and break their relationship off. Also they found some of her equipment in his apartment and I guess that was from the relationship they had earlier.

All of this is wrong....

 

[fonzerrillii]

Ok things are getting really interesting... Focus on the WEED


Why apartment managers really visited Botham Jean's home before he was killed by Amber Guyger

After Botham Jean was shot and killed in his Dallas home by an off-duty police officer, attorneys and law enforcement officials said there was a noise complaint targeting his apartment earlier that day.

But it turns out it wasn't loud music that brought leasing office employees to Jean's apartment hours before he was shot at the South Side Flats, an attorney for Jean's family said Wednesday.

Rather, it was the smell of marijuana, and they ultimately determined it wasn't coming from Jean's home, attorney Lee Merritt said.

Merritt said Jean, 26, was watching football in his apartment Sept. 6 when he was shot and killed by Dallas police Officer Amber Guyger.

Guyger, 30, told authorities she mistook his apartment for her own and thought he was a burglar. Jean's fourth-floor apartment was directly above hers at the complex in the Cedars neighborhood, a few blocks from Dallas police headquarters.

Police who searched Jean's apartment after the shooting seized a small amount of marijuana, which was documented in a search warrant released last week.

It's unclear to whom the drugs belonged or how they got there.

The day of the shooting, employees from the South Side Flats leasing office knocked on Jean's door saying there had been a noise complaint, Merritt said.

Jean told his girlfriend what happened and that he was offended by the women's visit because he'd just gotten home from work at PricewaterhouseCoopers and wasn't playing music, said a law enforcement official, who isn't authorized to address the case publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Like law enforcement, Merritt has previously said there was a noise complaint about Jean's apartment the day he was shot. But Merritt said Wednesday that he learned that was not true.

Merritt said there hadn't been a noise complaint against Jean in the two months Guyger had lived in the building.

Asked about noise complaints, a spokeswoman for the South Side Flats corporate ownership said she couldn't comment on the ongoing investigation.

The Jean family's attorney also shed new light Wednesday on how he spent his final night.

The night he was killed, Jean planned to watch the Atlanta Falcons play the Philadelphia Eagles, the first game of the NFL season, Merritt said.

"He was a huge football fan and was looking forward to watching the game," Merritt said.

A thunderstorm passing through Philadelphia delayed the game by 45 minutes, so the game was still on when Guyger arrived at his door about 10 p.m.

Jean was eating cereal, texting a friend and using his laptop around that time, Merritt said. A file from work sat nearby, but it was too dark in the room to work, he added.

The officer was still in uniform when she fired her service weapon twice, striking Jean once in the torso. He was found lying next to the couch, Merritt said.

Merritt said he doesn't believe it was an accident that Guyger went to Jean's apartment or that she thought he was a burglar. But, he said, he also doesn't have a theory of what happened.

He also says Guyger's account of the shooting has changed, and he points to several documents released in the days after the shooting.

The affidavit that Dallas police used to obtain a search warrant for Jean's apartment, before authorities interviewed Guyger, says she was confronted "at the door" by an unknown male who she may have thought was an intruder.

The document provides few other details but did list what was taken from his home: a black backpack with police equipment and paperwork, used medical supplies and 10.4 grams of marijuana.

The arrest warrant affidavit, written after authorities interviewed Guyger, says she shot Jean from "across the room." She told authorities that she had mistakenly parked on the fourth floor instead of the third, and inserted her key into Jean's door, which was slightly ajar.

No search warrants have been released for Guyger's home or car. It's possible she consented to the search, and in that case a warrant would not be required.

Police took Guyger's blood to test for alcohol and drugs. That test was still pending Wednesday. Jean's autopsy will include similar tests. Full autopsy results can take six to eight weeks.

Guyger was arrested on a manslaughter charge three days after the shooting when she turned herself in at the Kaufman County Jail. She posted a $300,000 bond within an hour.

Merritt and many local criminal defense attorneys have said they believe Guyger should be charged with murder. Manslaughter is a reckless act under Texas law. A murder charge implies the suspect intentionally and knowingly shot and killed someone. Guyger intended to pull the trigger, the attorneys argue, so a manslaughter charge is not appropriate.

Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson has indicated she is open to pursuing a murder charge against Guyger.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...-botham-jeans-home-before-killed-amber-guyger

 

[Mixd]

Asked about noise complaints, a spokeswoman for the South Side Flats corporate ownership said she couldn't comment on the ongoing investigation.

makes no sense, you part of the police dept or covering for them? Why can't you say if noise was complained about or not.

Merritt and many local criminal defense attorneys have said they believe Guyger should be charged with murder. Manslaughter is a reckless act under Texas law. A murder charge implies the suspect intentionally and knowingly shot and killed someone. Guyger intended to pull the trigger, the attorneys argue, so a manslaughter charge is not appropriate.

Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson has indicated she is open to pursuing a murder charge against Guyger.

This is what scares me, they will go after Murder, and a good lawyer will shred that to pieces, mistrial or not guilty.


Then to address the weed smell in the "vicinity"of his apt it's whatever at this point. The question is where was this weed found, could of been hers, or she may says she took it from someone she arrested earlier? Who knows. Toxicology will show who had the herbs in their system.
If she never made a noise complaint with music, then maybe he was watching the game too loud for her?

All they need to show is her getting out her car or walking down the hall on the wrong floor from the garage door for me to believe any of this nonsense of being at the wrong apt.

 

[BDR]

we tried to tell you niggga

then u went on some, i been watching his moms closely ass nigga

Don’t ever quote me in this thread again... no jokes

 

[mangobob79]

WHY WAS SHE ALLOWED TO MOVE OUT OF HER APARTMENT ? SHE HAS INTENTIONALLY DESTROYED EVIDENCE THAT COULD BE USED TO RESEARCH HER HISTORY!!!

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Don’t ever quote me in this thread again... no jokes

Yo real nigga shit

Be easy, this coulda been ANY of us in this situation. Ain’t no need for me and u to start talking crazy. This thread ain’t about that, we was correcting u when u tried to keep doubling down.

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

See the complete and utter

Can the Chief of Police fire Officer Guyger?

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Damn what kind of dirt they got on that police chief unless she has already been to do some federal training and has already came back brainwashed. I know we all remember the dude that said at some time every police chief will have to do some federal training and when they come back they will be brainwashed.

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

All of this is wrong....

It seemed a lot like it. The two witnesses said they heard her banging on the door saying open the door. Then they heard 2 shots and heard him say why did you do that. There is no evidence that they knew each other. But if she shot him at the spur of a moment that was the first thing I assumed. He had started fucking someone else. If I am wrong then she should have never been carrying a gun anyway.

 

[donhustle]

Most police in major cities cant just fire a cop they have to go thru the bs procedures .

 

[BDR]

Yo real nigga shit

Be easy, this coulda been ANY of us in this situation. Ain’t no need for me and u to start talking crazy. This thread ain’t about that, we was correcting u when u tried to keep doubling down.

Fuck you mean we? You was correcting shit foh..

I acknowledged the poster but also said moms called them cacs devils which she did

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Makes me sick that this piece of shit might walk.....

 

[SamSneed]

That shit was hers.... likely left there after the shooting and kept as evidence but the warrant just happens to say none of that shit so it can appear that it was his.

Honestly I don’t think any of that shit is his. That’s why I’m pissed that old girl wasn’t drug tested immediately after.

Wtf, if we’re hit or hit in the gov truck. They’re sendin our ass to drug test ASAP.

You don’t go that same day, your ass is jobless

She killed someone and no test