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Dallas cop enters wrong apartment, kills Black man Botham Jean who lives there [LIVE TRIAL LINK]

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Thats not a good argument in my opinion. You don’t have to hear the door open to notice it open. The light of the hallway, the movement of the door would be noticed. Anyway, it has already been established that he was in a seated or crouched position when he got shot, so, it was likely that he didn’t even have a chance to fully stand up. This means that he wasn’t in a position to cause her any harm.

If you want to know what happened, go to my post where I listed 5 possible scenarios. Scenario 5 is the most likely.
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Theres Nothing to argue being she admitted to intent to kill already which qualifies as murder. ( she was dumb for admitting that)
And I’m going by what they already presented which was him having EarPods on. The couch facing the wall and the door would be in his peripheral. I’ve walked up on people with EarPods on and I’ve always had the jump on them. Whether it’s 1 second or 5, that’s enough time for her to retreat before he’s a threat as she “claims”.
Im speaking from a jurors perspective which is not a lawyers perspective.
I’m not guessing what it could be I’m going by what they admitted to
 
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How yalll mofos find the kraftiness to argue amongst each other in this thread is ridiculous. Bitch taking the L. Only thing could help her is if they give her less than 10, she could stay out on an appeal.
Hopefully they know better and give her 11 or better. She would have to wait 10 years before she can appeal in a cell
 
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Theres Nothing to argue being she admitted to intent to kill already which qualifies as murder. ( she was a dumb for admitting that)
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I said this earlier in the thread, that she would of been in most likely a worse situation to say she shot him by mistake.

At the same time shooting him, as a police officer with training, to shoot at someone without seeing a weapon, is dumb.

She had to state, I intended to kill him. If she didn't, her discharge would of been reckless.

And she cannot shoot at an extremity, she has to shoot at body center mass 'with intent to kill' or you just don't shoot at all.
 
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Mixd said:
I said this earlier in the thread, that she would of been in most likely a worse situation to say she shot him by mistake.

At the same time shooting him, as a police officer with training, to shoot at someone without seeing a weapon, is dumb.

She had to state, I intended to kill him. If she didn't, her discharge would of been reckless.

And she cannot shoot at an extremity, she has to shoot at body mass 'with intent to kill' or you just don't shoot at all.
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She could of said shoot to alleviate threat or whatever the term is. And it could of been manslaughter. But admitting to intent to kill opened the door for murder.
 
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She could of said shoot to alleviate threat or whatever the term is. And it could of been manslaughter. But admitting to intent to kill opened the door for murder.
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Correct, BUT she can't shoot at something without there being a visible threat in front of her.

She said, (we know she lying) that she was at the doorway to the apartment (shell casings were well inside his kitchen). He was in the living room area.

So if you didn't see if it was a man or woman (her words) and didn't see what was there, you, as a trained police officer cannot fire if you don't know what's there.

As a gun owner, I cannot shoot my weapon at someone to alleviate a situation. That's the movies. If I fire my weapon, the law states its a deadly weapon and pointing it in the direction of a person, my only intent has to be to kill.

Me as a citizen, can get away with a lot of excuses. My finger pressed the trigger by mistake, my shirt got caught on it, all kinds of BS.

But her as an officer, she is not able to carry out her duties and would be fired or reprimanded, whatever.
 
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Correct, BUT she can't shoot at something without there being a visible threat in front of her.

She said, (we know she lying) that she was at the doorway to the apartment (shell casings were well inside his kitchen). He was in the living room area.

So if you didn't see if it was a man or woman (her words) and didn't see what was there, you, as a trained police officer cannot fire if you don't know what's there.

As a gun owner, I cannot shoot my weapon at someone to alleviate a situation. That's the movies. If I fire my weapon, the law states its a deadly weapon and pointing it in the direction of a person, my only intent has to be to kill.

Me as a citizen, can get away with a lot of excuses. My finger pressed the trigger by mistake, my shirt got caught on it, all kinds of BS.

But her as an officer, she is not able to carry out her duties and would be fired or reprimanded, whatever.
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So wait, I’m no lawyer but shooting below the waste isn’t a different charge than a head shot or chest shot?
 
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footloose said:
So wait, I’m no lawyer but shooting below the waste isn’t a different charge than a head shot or chest shot?
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No, any lawyer will tear that up in court and will state you have had no formal training as a marksman and a jury, will hear from the attorney how can you shoot a gun capable of firing a projectile at XYZ feet per second and kill another human being and know where the bullet will be placed. A "deadly" weapon is just that, a deadly weapon...
 
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Pouring out one for brother Bo. Sipping on that Amber
 
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Rumor has it, the prosecutor did not want to put Bonnie/Bunny on the stand, because she received donations from Bothams supporters

They didn't want the defense or the jury or the judge, to think she was biased

Which is kinda messed up b/c the only reason why she asked for donations, was to pay her bills, after racist Amber Guyger fans got her fired

:smh::smh::smh:
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It would have been hard for them to say she took money in exchange for a testimony. Actually they were forcing her to survive until the trail. There should have been proof that she was fired for telling the truth. But they probably had more than her that knew more than what the media put out. This dealt with murder and a person's life. I think they could have used her and easily won. But then their would be more questions to be answered that still have not been answered. Actually it seems it would have been more about Bunny safety. I am not sure that shit about her mother had the dog is true. But if it is true that they had 5 different search warrants for her place and never searched it once but went immediately to search Jeans place then it is clear that there was a lot of help for her narrative.
In this case it seems like the DA was going to have to do it's job. Unlike the Mike Brown case and the Zimmerman case. In the Mike Brown case was the first time I saw them immediately take people cell phones that might have filmed something. One girl got her phone back and it was a clip still on there of officer Wilson and it was just like she had stated earlier. But in Mike Brown and T. Martin the only witnesses that count was the ones to back up the narrative of the killers. Anything else was an enemy. To tell the truth 911 was like that. It is a shame that whites are terrorizing the world in the name of Jesus Christ and democracy. They claim to be fighting terrorism and are the biggest terrorist in the universe. And got the support and taxes of the masses.
 
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MT Hermit said:
WTF!!!!!

Start a different thread to fuckin bitch about black women

a WHITE BITCH was found guilty of murder and some how there's a shit on black women conversation going on in here

this really isn't the thread for it
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Sorry Brotha..but I didnt agree with the Black WOMAN showing sympathy towards her...that shit was strange !!! On the other Black hand side I want to thank all the Black men and women who brought in a guilty verdict

 
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Sorry Brotha..but I didnt agree with the Black WOMAN showing sympathy towards her...and this involves the trial....that shit was strange !!!
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you good fam :cool:


i agree, wasn't pleased with that either. you weren't trolling imo

idk if noticed the extra bullshit pre and post verdict that was being thrown around in the thread that didnt/doesnt really involve the trial

my post was directed at that

peace :cool:
 
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kart.mario said:
Well we already know that no matter what happens there will be a mob of black women holding a candlelight vigil on behalf of Geiger. They will be talking about how they forgive her and she’s a child of god. Jesus this and that. I’m surprised we haven’t been bombarded with this shit already. Smh. :mad:
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We get it you are in pain. Black women are the best thing to ever happen to black men with a few bed wench and misguided sister exceptions. It is not the epidemic that you claim it to be. Justice was served yesterday, calm the fuck down. A cac woman murdered our brother.
 
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This a lot of shit to watch but why ole girl threw in you can hear the person in the apartment above you if they are loud

 
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cmon, how many times do I have to tell you niggas... black women are not the friend of black men. Why do you think the judge slipped in that castle doctrine at the last minute? Watch her give this cac a slap on the wrist.

This was a blatant egregious slap in the face of Jeans family. She murdered that man in cold blood and what do we get? We get a black woman officer comforting and caressing a racist cac bitch. God damnit I swear to god, you niggas are blind. I’ve been trying to educate y’all for years but it’s a waste of time.

I will repeat what I’ve been saying for years... black women hate black men. They hate them so much that they raise their black sons to be faggots, hence the gay black male epidemic.

I am waiting for this judge to let us all down with a 5 year sentence.
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This judge slipped in the "castle doctrine" to make it hard for this white bitch to have her guilty verdict overturned during appeal. This case would have been easily overturned during appeal had this option not been presented. The judge pulled a slick one on white supremacy and negroes are mad due to their lack of understanding.
 
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Or maybe the Officer is patronizingly trolling her by petting the died blonde hair that fell flat to conjure sympathy during trial

On a side note, the Castle Doctrine sounds like it was allowed for consideration to close the possibility of a filed appeal being granted. The recommended inclusion of manslaughter was to prevent only a Not Guilty verdict without considering manslaughter. Then allowing the social media posts to be read during sentencing appears to make a light sentence unlikely.

This judge seems thoroughly sharp.
 
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Mixd said:
No, any lawyer will tear that up in court and will state you have had no formal training as a marksman and a jury, will hear from the attorney how can you shoot a gun capable of firing a projectile at XYZ feet per second and kill another human being and know where the bullet will be placed. A "deadly" weapon is just that, a deadly weapon...
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Not in Tennessee. Shooting below the waist is assault.

But you're in Texas...
 
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Damn looking at more videos. Wtf did this bitch think somebody broke in and decorated her apartment. Wtf.
This Nicca brought a bigger tv., a otterman, put pictures on her wall, a desktop computer, moved her wall table, cluttered her counter, smoked some weed, put a door mat down and got in his draws just to rob her.
This got to be the dumbest cop in the fucking world not to notice any of this.
 
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BigDaddyBuk said:
Not in Tennessee. Shooting below the waist is assault.

But you're in Texas...
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You're saying if you shot a gun at someone, it only hit their leg, a jury will treat you differently because you didn't intend to kill them?

That's the different state law?

I'd think any state would consider a deadly weapon pointed at a human being, you have a deadly intent. No?

How can one say where the bullet will end up.

Not sure if you understood what we were discussing.

You can't explain to a judge, jury, "oh I fired my gun at him, but I only intended to pepper him up, not kill him."

You're no expert at shooting guns, or marksmanship. You can't pinpoint where a bullet will end up. In the eyes of the jury, a lawyer will tear that up.

A lawyer will say you shouldn't fire unless you had intentions to kill who you pointed the gun at.
 
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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:
What. The. Hell?
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I want to let Kats know that this isn’t uncommon. Court officers typical will show some sympathy to defendants after guilty verdicts. I know in my trials the court officer did the same. It’s typically the last sympathetic expression these people get.
 

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