I just watched this like 10 times.
Discussion: Falcon and The Winter Soldier UPDATE: Captain America 4 Brave New World NEW TRAILER!!!
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Its in one of the spiderman threads I can't seem to find it.
.... Didn't know US Agent was Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn's son
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Me neither till I just watched this
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Spoiler for No way home similar to video in the no way home thread posted last week
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Winter Soldier's Co-Creator Ed Brubaker Bemoans Marvel Studios' Treatment of Comic Book Writers
"When I see the ads for the show, it actually kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach.”
By Jesse Schedeen
Updated: 17 Apr 2021 12:11 am
Posted: 16 Apr 2021 1:27 pm
You might expect writer Ed Brubaker would be thrilled see one of his most famous Marvel creations headlining a series on Disney+. But Brubaker reveals he's anything but happy about the debut of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
Appearing on a recent episode of Kevin Smith and Marc Bernardin's podcast Fatman Beyond, Brubaker takes Marvel Studios to task for what he views as a pattern of not fairly compensating comic book creators when their characters and stories are adapted for the MCU.
“I think I might be the only person in America not excited about this show. When I see the ads for the show, it actually kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach,” Brubaker says. “As a company, why would you want that to be the way the creators feel?”
While Brubaker may not have created the character of Bucky Barnes (who's been around since 1941's Captain America Comics #1), he and artist Steve Epting did create the concept of the Winter Soldier and the back-story that explains how Bucky survived his apparent death in WWII and became a brainwashed Soviet assassin. Brubaker's long, influential run on Captain America has greatly influenced the direction of the MCU (particularly 2014's Captain America: The Winter Soldier and 2016's Captain America: Civil War), but that hasn't yielded Brubaker much in the way of royalties from Marvel. In fact, he reveals he's earned more money from SAG residuals for his brief cameo role in The Winter Soldier than he has from Marvel Studios.
Brubaker adds, "I probably will watch it at some point. I'm conflicted about it, because, like, I knew going in it was work-for-hire, but also when I was writing it, they didn’t have their own movie studio and weren’t owned by Disney. So the idea that this character would go on to be a huge franchise where kids would come trick-or-treating at my house dressed as him...”
Brubaker's complaints are unfortunately common among comic creators. Because most Marvel and DC creators operate under a work-for-hire agreement, they're generally legally entitled to very little when their work is adapted for other media (though the specific terms of each creator's contract may vary). As IGN has explored in the past, this has led many former Marvel creators to depart the companyand pursue creator-owned projects that offer greater financial rewards if those stories are adapted for film and TV. Brubaker himself has pivoted to creator-owned books like Fatale and The Fade Out, and also co-wrote Amazon's Too Old to Die Young with Nicolas Winding Refn.
Isaiah Bradley: The Vile History Behind Marvel's Forgotten Captain America
Marvel has previously faced legal battles from the estate of Jack Kirby, which sought to reclaim the copyright for Kirby's numerous Marvel creations. While the SDNY ruled in Marvel's favor in 2011, the Supreme Court nearly took up a review of the case before Marvel quietly settled with the Kirby estate in 2014.
"Everybody kept coming over to me after the movie and going, ‘How much did they give you for this?’ When you have a hundred people asking how much they gave you for this, it starts to eat away at you a little bit," Brubaker says. "Look, I knew what I was getting into, and I’m not unhappy with my life, or that I wrote this thing. I am super-proud of all the work I did on Daredevil, and Cap, and I don’t love my X-Men run but there are people who like it. I loved working at Marvel, I had a great time there – but at the same time I also feel like, you know, be a little more generous.”
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"When I see the ads for the show, it actually kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach.”
By Jesse Schedeen
Updated: 17 Apr 2021 12:11 am
Posted: 16 Apr 2021 1:27 pm
You might expect writer Ed Brubaker would be thrilled see one of his most famous Marvel creations headlining a series on Disney+. But Brubaker reveals he's anything but happy about the debut of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
Appearing on a recent episode of Kevin Smith and Marc Bernardin's podcast Fatman Beyond, Brubaker takes Marvel Studios to task for what he views as a pattern of not fairly compensating comic book creators when their characters and stories are adapted for the MCU.
“I think I might be the only person in America not excited about this show. When I see the ads for the show, it actually kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach,” Brubaker says. “As a company, why would you want that to be the way the creators feel?”
While Brubaker may not have created the character of Bucky Barnes (who's been around since 1941's Captain America Comics #1), he and artist Steve Epting did create the concept of the Winter Soldier and the back-story that explains how Bucky survived his apparent death in WWII and became a brainwashed Soviet assassin. Brubaker's long, influential run on Captain America has greatly influenced the direction of the MCU (particularly 2014's Captain America: The Winter Soldier and 2016's Captain America: Civil War), but that hasn't yielded Brubaker much in the way of royalties from Marvel. In fact, he reveals he's earned more money from SAG residuals for his brief cameo role in The Winter Soldier than he has from Marvel Studios.
Brubaker adds, "I probably will watch it at some point. I'm conflicted about it, because, like, I knew going in it was work-for-hire, but also when I was writing it, they didn’t have their own movie studio and weren’t owned by Disney. So the idea that this character would go on to be a huge franchise where kids would come trick-or-treating at my house dressed as him...”
Brubaker's complaints are unfortunately common among comic creators. Because most Marvel and DC creators operate under a work-for-hire agreement, they're generally legally entitled to very little when their work is adapted for other media (though the specific terms of each creator's contract may vary). As IGN has explored in the past, this has led many former Marvel creators to depart the companyand pursue creator-owned projects that offer greater financial rewards if those stories are adapted for film and TV. Brubaker himself has pivoted to creator-owned books like Fatale and The Fade Out, and also co-wrote Amazon's Too Old to Die Young with Nicolas Winding Refn.
Isaiah Bradley: The Vile History Behind Marvel's Forgotten Captain America
Marvel has previously faced legal battles from the estate of Jack Kirby, which sought to reclaim the copyright for Kirby's numerous Marvel creations. While the SDNY ruled in Marvel's favor in 2011, the Supreme Court nearly took up a review of the case before Marvel quietly settled with the Kirby estate in 2014.
"Everybody kept coming over to me after the movie and going, ‘How much did they give you for this?’ When you have a hundred people asking how much they gave you for this, it starts to eat away at you a little bit," Brubaker says. "Look, I knew what I was getting into, and I’m not unhappy with my life, or that I wrote this thing. I am super-proud of all the work I did on Daredevil, and Cap, and I don’t love my X-Men run but there are people who like it. I loved working at Marvel, I had a great time there – but at the same time I also feel like, you know, be a little more generous.”
Winter Soldier's Co-Creator Bemoans Marvel Studios' Treatment of Comic Book Writers - IGN
Winter Soldier co-creator Ed Brubaker explains why the character's new Disney+ series "makes me feel sick to my stomach."
Winter Soldier's Co-Creator Ed Brubaker Bemoans Marvel Studios' Treatment of Comic Book Writers
"When I see the ads for the show, it actually kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach.”
By Jesse Schedeen
Updated: 17 Apr 2021 12:11 am
Posted: 16 Apr 2021 1:27 pm
You might expect writer Ed Brubaker would be thrilled see one of his most famous Marvel creations headlining a series on Disney+. But Brubaker reveals he's anything but happy about the debut of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
Appearing on a recent episode of Kevin Smith and Marc Bernardin's podcast Fatman Beyond, Brubaker takes Marvel Studios to task for what he views as a pattern of not fairly compensating comic book creators when their characters and stories are adapted for the MCU.
“I think I might be the only person in America not excited about this show. When I see the ads for the show, it actually kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach,” Brubaker says. “As a company, why would you want that to be the way the creators feel?”
While Brubaker may not have created the character of Bucky Barnes (who's been around since 1941's Captain America Comics #1), he and artist Steve Epting did create the concept of the Winter Soldier and the back-story that explains how Bucky survived his apparent death in WWII and became a brainwashed Soviet assassin. Brubaker's long, influential run on Captain America has greatly influenced the direction of the MCU (particularly 2014's Captain America: The Winter Soldier and 2016's Captain America: Civil War), but that hasn't yielded Brubaker much in the way of royalties from Marvel. In fact, he reveals he's earned more money from SAG residuals for his brief cameo role in The Winter Soldier than he has from Marvel Studios.
Brubaker adds, "I probably will watch it at some point. I'm conflicted about it, because, like, I knew going in it was work-for-hire, but also when I was writing it, they didn’t have their own movie studio and weren’t owned by Disney. So the idea that this character would go on to be a huge franchise where kids would come trick-or-treating at my house dressed as him...”
Brubaker's complaints are unfortunately common among comic creators. Because most Marvel and DC creators operate under a work-for-hire agreement, they're generally legally entitled to very little when their work is adapted for other media (though the specific terms of each creator's contract may vary). As IGN has explored in the past, this has led many former Marvel creators to depart the companyand pursue creator-owned projects that offer greater financial rewards if those stories are adapted for film and TV. Brubaker himself has pivoted to creator-owned books like Fatale and The Fade Out, and also co-wrote Amazon's Too Old to Die Young with Nicolas Winding Refn.
Isaiah Bradley: The Vile History Behind Marvel's Forgotten Captain America
Marvel has previously faced legal battles from the estate of Jack Kirby, which sought to reclaim the copyright for Kirby's numerous Marvel creations. While the SDNY ruled in Marvel's favor in 2011, the Supreme Court nearly took up a review of the case before Marvel quietly settled with the Kirby estate in 2014.
"Everybody kept coming over to me after the movie and going, ‘How much did they give you for this?’ When you have a hundred people asking how much they gave you for this, it starts to eat away at you a little bit," Brubaker says. "Look, I knew what I was getting into, and I’m not unhappy with my life, or that I wrote this thing. I am super-proud of all the work I did on Daredevil, and Cap, and I don’t love my X-Men run but there are people who like it. I loved working at Marvel, I had a great time there – but at the same time I also feel like, you know, be a little more generous.”
Winter Soldier's Co-Creator Bemoans Marvel Studios' Treatment of Comic Book Writers - IGN
Winter Soldier co-creator Ed Brubaker explains why the character's new Disney+ series "makes me feel sick to my stomach."
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Took the shield but the white man wont accept it he'll make his own shitty shield lol
But this is a stand up good guy lying to his boys parents about avenging the murder
But this is a stand up good guy lying to his boys parents about avenging the murder
Winter Soldier's Co-Creator Ed Brubaker Bemoans Marvel Studios' Treatment of Comic Book Writers
"When I see the ads for the show, it actually kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach.”
By Jesse Schedeen
Updated: 17 Apr 2021 12:11 am
Posted: 16 Apr 2021 1:27 pm
You might expect writer Ed Brubaker would be thrilled see one of his most famous Marvel creations headlining a series on Disney+. But Brubaker reveals he's anything but happy about the debut of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
Appearing on a recent episode of Kevin Smith and Marc Bernardin's podcast Fatman Beyond, Brubaker takes Marvel Studios to task for what he views as a pattern of not fairly compensating comic book creators when their characters and stories are adapted for the MCU.
“I think I might be the only person in America not excited about this show. When I see the ads for the show, it actually kind of makes me feel sick to my stomach,” Brubaker says. “As a company, why would you want that to be the way the creators feel?”
While Brubaker may not have created the character of Bucky Barnes (who's been around since 1941's Captain America Comics #1), he and artist Steve Epting did create the concept of the Winter Soldier and the back-story that explains how Bucky survived his apparent death in WWII and became a brainwashed Soviet assassin. Brubaker's long, influential run on Captain America has greatly influenced the direction of the MCU (particularly 2014's Captain America: The Winter Soldier and 2016's Captain America: Civil War), but that hasn't yielded Brubaker much in the way of royalties from Marvel. In fact, he reveals he's earned more money from SAG residuals for his brief cameo role in The Winter Soldier than he has from Marvel Studios.
Brubaker adds, "I probably will watch it at some point. I'm conflicted about it, because, like, I knew going in it was work-for-hire, but also when I was writing it, they didn’t have their own movie studio and weren’t owned by Disney. So the idea that this character would go on to be a huge franchise where kids would come trick-or-treating at my house dressed as him...”
Brubaker's complaints are unfortunately common among comic creators. Because most Marvel and DC creators operate under a work-for-hire agreement, they're generally legally entitled to very little when their work is adapted for other media (though the specific terms of each creator's contract may vary). As IGN has explored in the past, this has led many former Marvel creators to depart the companyand pursue creator-owned projects that offer greater financial rewards if those stories are adapted for film and TV. Brubaker himself has pivoted to creator-owned books like Fatale and The Fade Out, and also co-wrote Amazon's Too Old to Die Young with Nicolas Winding Refn.
Isaiah Bradley: The Vile History Behind Marvel's Forgotten Captain America
Marvel has previously faced legal battles from the estate of Jack Kirby, which sought to reclaim the copyright for Kirby's numerous Marvel creations. While the SDNY ruled in Marvel's favor in 2011, the Supreme Court nearly took up a review of the case before Marvel quietly settled with the Kirby estate in 2014.
"Everybody kept coming over to me after the movie and going, ‘How much did they give you for this?’ When you have a hundred people asking how much they gave you for this, it starts to eat away at you a little bit," Brubaker says. "Look, I knew what I was getting into, and I’m not unhappy with my life, or that I wrote this thing. I am super-proud of all the work I did on Daredevil, and Cap, and I don’t love my X-Men run but there are people who like it. I loved working at Marvel, I had a great time there – but at the same time I also feel like, you know, be a little more generous.”
Winter Soldier's Co-Creator Bemoans Marvel Studios' Treatment of Comic Book Writers - IGN
Winter Soldier co-creator Ed Brubaker explains why the character's new Disney+ series "makes me feel sick to my stomach."
Sadly the Disney way.
When they brought Lucas films I wondered why they rendered the expanded universe obsolete/non Canon.
Than I read how EU writers would be due creator royalties for their characters.
Can you imagine the grip they would owe Timothy Zahn for his iconic EU characters?!?
So instead of paying him for the Skywalker/solo twins Jacen and Jaina... Just create cheap poorly developed/fleshed out knockoffs named Rey and Ben/Kylo-Ren.
So i have to ask everyone this...
What changed Falcon's mind about becoming the new Cap???
After seeing them trick you into giving back the shield...
After seeing how you and your sister get treated by financial institutions...
After hearing Isiah Bradley's story...
NOW you wanna become Cap?
What changed Falcon's mind about becoming the new Cap???
After seeing them trick you into giving back the shield...
After seeing how you and your sister get treated by financial institutions...
After hearing Isiah Bradley's story...
NOW you wanna become Cap?
hope...
America is his home and he still has hope for the dream of what America could be
hope...
America is his home and he still has hope for the dream of what America could be
He didn't have hope before?
Or... He realized that he needs to be the one who has to give that hope to others.
I been on the road since episode 2 and debated about watching the episodes on my phone or laptop. I wanted to watch these episodes on my big screen TV, on the couch, wrapped in my blanket with a cold beer and my favorite munchies.
I managed to hold out and stay out of this thread and other places on the internet for spoilers.
I got home Friday, showered, got my pajama pants and muscle shirt on. Wife fixed dinner, brought it out to the living room and plopped my ass dead center on the couch in front of the TV.
Watched all 3 episodes back to back. It was like watching a 3 hour Marvel movie.
I'm not going to repeat what has been pointed out but all 3 episodes were done great and each one outdid each other. No flaws and no fillers in any of them.
What they did with the racism with Falcon and Black Cap really was done well. That statement of they will never have a Black Captain America, hit hard and Falcon's reaction was classic with the camera on him as it was said. That line was on the level of KillMonger final line in Black Panther.
The MAGA crowd has been boycotting the series since the scene with Sam and Bucky confronting the cops on the streets of Baltimore. So you know the interracial with Walker and his wife and Bucky flirting with Sam's sister got their blood boiling. HaHa!!!
The scenes on Madapour looked great. I was hoping maybe this was where Logan would debut. That is the type of place he would hang out.
Baron Zemo, his character has been done perfectly in this series. If you are familiar with him from the classic comics. You know that crazy bastard is always planning something devious and is 5 to 7 steps ahead of everybody. The crazy bastard even puts in his plans for defeat and capture in order to carry out his crazy plans.
Curious to know why Zemo destroyed the lab and crushed the remaining serum vials. I suspect Hydra's plans for the serum was not to make Captain America, copy-cat super soldiers the way the US Govt was trying to do, but they had some other sinister plans for it. We will find out in the future.
Julia Louis Dreyfus cameo was good. I first thought maybe she was the Power Broker. Then suspected she might be connected with A.I.M.
I looked it up and her character in the comics is Madame Hydra. She was a former Russian agent, so most likely she is in Black Widow. And she is a former agent of SHIELD.
We were suppose to get 9 episodes, but the pandemic last year fucked everything up.
We can all thank Trump for his fucked up mishandling of the pandemic for that.
Looking forward to the finale episode.
I managed to hold out and stay out of this thread and other places on the internet for spoilers.
I got home Friday, showered, got my pajama pants and muscle shirt on. Wife fixed dinner, brought it out to the living room and plopped my ass dead center on the couch in front of the TV.
Watched all 3 episodes back to back. It was like watching a 3 hour Marvel movie.
I'm not going to repeat what has been pointed out but all 3 episodes were done great and each one outdid each other. No flaws and no fillers in any of them.
What they did with the racism with Falcon and Black Cap really was done well. That statement of they will never have a Black Captain America, hit hard and Falcon's reaction was classic with the camera on him as it was said. That line was on the level of KillMonger final line in Black Panther.
The MAGA crowd has been boycotting the series since the scene with Sam and Bucky confronting the cops on the streets of Baltimore. So you know the interracial with Walker and his wife and Bucky flirting with Sam's sister got their blood boiling. HaHa!!!
The scenes on Madapour looked great. I was hoping maybe this was where Logan would debut. That is the type of place he would hang out.
Baron Zemo, his character has been done perfectly in this series. If you are familiar with him from the classic comics. You know that crazy bastard is always planning something devious and is 5 to 7 steps ahead of everybody. The crazy bastard even puts in his plans for defeat and capture in order to carry out his crazy plans.
Curious to know why Zemo destroyed the lab and crushed the remaining serum vials. I suspect Hydra's plans for the serum was not to make Captain America, copy-cat super soldiers the way the US Govt was trying to do, but they had some other sinister plans for it. We will find out in the future.
Julia Louis Dreyfus cameo was good. I first thought maybe she was the Power Broker. Then suspected she might be connected with A.I.M.
I looked it up and her character in the comics is Madame Hydra. She was a former Russian agent, so most likely she is in Black Widow. And she is a former agent of SHIELD.
We were suppose to get 9 episodes, but the pandemic last year fucked everything up.
We can all thank Trump for his fucked up mishandling of the pandemic for that.
Looking forward to the finale episode.
at first i wanted him to remain falcon cause it was an identity he established
but after listening to homegirl's video i'm all in on Sam being the new cap...let's do it!
uhhh...i likes their review...
If that flew at the right speed and hit you in the eye that thing would blind you for about 45 secs... cte making the best out of what lil he’s given
I love fan fiction
Did you know the last words Walt Disney wrote before he died was Kurt Russell?
Wyatt Russell - Wikipedia
Just thought his son named Wyatt, born 8 years before he would play the iconic role of Wyatt Earp in tombstone.
Wyatt Russell - Wikipedia
Strange knew Tony would die but I didn t think Cap did.
I just read the first issue of truth red white and black and mcu need to make that a spinoff series.
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Stan was indeed the MAN!!!
