end of My Expert Opinion Podcast. ( Bigga left, now Champ out too) BagFuel up next

[playahaitian]

It's deep, but it's really not.

The fact of the matter whether there was a contract or not.

You can't show up with thousand dollar shoes, two thousand dollars sweaters, diamond pendants on your chain and a diamond Rolex and not pay people anything.

It's not about money, it's about pride and respect.

If you love your Brothers, the. You treat your Brothers accordingly and that's with respect.

Esso estimated that the show made 200k a month.

200k a month an nobody get nothing?

Their relationship didn't and over money, it ended because someone's a piece of shit.

Again we do not know the truth.

This is still hearsay. He say he say.

But anyway... Why let it get that far?

Why not address it immediately?

Then leave in peace and keep it between yall?

Maybe it's just me. That's how I was brought up.

 

[ViCiouS]

If you REALLY didn't want to something?

And a check can make you sell your integrity?

I don't want to know you.

so.... you are not going to the ROCNation brunch?

 

[REDLINE]

Again we do not know the truth.

This is still hearsay. He say he say.

But anyway... Why let it get that far?

Why not address it immediately?

Then leave in peace and keep it between yall?

Maybe it's just me. That's how I was brought up.

It definitely should’ve been brought up in private first.

 

[playahaitian]

It definitely should’ve been brought up in private first.

That's all I'm saying.

This is NOT complicated

Yo bro you ain't pay me

I just need more time

How much time?

gimme 2 weeks

2 weeks later Walks in with Rolex watch

I just need 2 more weeks.

Ok Mr Rolex I'll be back in 2 weeks but no equipment and I'm keeping all the recordings before then

I thought we were brothers

We are. But I ain't your b*tch. You my brother forever but I got bills to pay. Until then I gotta hustle. I'm here when you need me. But from now on you gotta pay up front bro. Peace.

If Math don't understand that? He was never your brother anyway.

But if you continued to show up for free quietly seething chewing on a banana peel

nah YOU the problem.

 

[keone]

That's what I mean being friends don't mean being deaf dumb and blind

They have to take some personal responsibility ALL OF THEM.

Me and mines don't move like that.

Let me get personal cause the Bigga thing hurt my heart.

when my mom died I had friends and family I ain't spoken to in years you know due to life or just dumb old beef

And they BEGGED me to take the funeral money I said no, people got mad. They took it like disrespect and I still held a grudge. It wasn't. I was embarrassed. Not about the money. But the generosity. That was the gift not the money. It was overwhelming. They were going into 401k to give my mom a proper send off. That was not about money it was about love.

My point is if I know (or believe I know your heart) everything is everything. We good. We will figure it all out later.

But friendship means not suffering in silence. If you can't work free be honest. And don't do it. Can't blame another man for that. Now he don't pay you after he said he would? He your friend? Forgive him and we can't work together no more. No beef.

It's money. It's business.

Trust me I've been played we ALL have. Many dudes I'm still cool with and joke about it

but they will get my time energy or money ever again.

And I know it hurts them but even after paying me back? Nah can't do business. But we can go to this cookout and watch the game after.

i hear u and i agree but
i think what gets lost is bigga was losing money
thats different cause he was helping math
he wanted to see lil bro win.

and again it wasnt about money direclty it was how math was acting
u cant blame bigga for not getting pissed off. u acting weird and im the one losing money?
they will prolly talk down the line but for now its we gotta cool off a sec

also dont forget bigga was the one trying to keep everybody together in the first place

 

[playahaitian]

Looking like a party city cos play Mansa Musa

Just playing Bigga

Like the Bible say...

Don't keep a tight grip on your Gucci purse lest colors clash and your tongue firmly sticks to your teeth and whistles like the fairy wind when you speaketh falsely.

Yo @dik cashmere

Please be sure to let these dudes know my bars being grossly under appreciated in this thread

Now I know how Hy and Esso felt like.

Damn

 

[playahaitian]

I like how they parlayed that BET money

 

[keone]

It definitely should’ve been brought up in private first.

That's all I'm saying.

This is NOT complicated

Yo bro you ain't pay me

I just need more time

How much time?

gimme 2 weeks

2 weeks later Walks in with Rolex watch

I just need 2 more weeks.

Ok Mr Rolex I'll be back in 2 weeks but no equipment and I'm keeping all the recordings before then

I thought we were brothers

We are. But I ain't your b*tch. You my brother forever but I got bills to pay. Until then I gotta hustle. I'm here when you need me. But from now on you gotta pay up front bro. Peace.

If Math don't understand that? He was never your brother anyway.

But if you continued to show up for free quietly seething chewing on a banana peel

nah YOU the problem.

they did brought it up privately
space ghost didnt just leave he had spoke to math and in his case math brought it to the world
esso and hy talked to him in private as well
bigga claims he said it to math

 

[playahaitian]

i hear u and i agree but
i think what gets lost is bigga was losing money
thats different cause he was helping math
he wanted to see lil bro win.

and again it wasnt about money direclty it was how math was acting
u cant blame bigga for not getting pissed off. u acting weird and im the one losing money?
they will prolly talk down the line but for now its we gotta cool off a sec

also dont forget bigga was the one trying to keep everybody together in the first place

if all that is true.

This is a serious tragedy

Cause this could have a lebron maverick etc opportunity

Wu tang opportunity

Black brotherhood generational wealth opportunity

But now look.

Crazy how this happens SO OFTEN with US.

and now math with vlad and Adam.

Would you REALLY be surprised if things ended badly with Joe ice ish flip and Ford?

I really hope they can move past or forget the podcast but as men math bigga esso hy and them could at least find a peace in brotherhood.

 

[playahaitian]

they did brought it up pruvatly
space ghost didnt just leave he had spoke to math and in his case math brought it to the world
esso and hy talked to him in private as well
bigga claims he said it to math

Whelp

No more to really talk about then right?

What's done is done

I don't think I'm going to listen to bag fuel but wish them the best. If they have a interesting guest... maybe. I still enjoy Math show for the time being.

 

[keone]

if all that is true.

This is a serious tragedy

Cause this could have a lebron maverick etc opportunity

Wu tang opportunity

Black brotherhood generational wealth opportunity

But now look.

Crazy how this happens SO OFTEN with US.

and now math with vlad and Adam.

Would you REALLY be surprised if things ended badly with Joe ice ish flip and Ford?

I really hope they can move past or forget the podcast but as men math bigga esso hy and them could at least find a peace in brotherhood.

i mean its still joe budden thats what he is known for ahaha
bigga was basically investing in the podcast

u know whats funny math was just saying how taxstone fuked everything up
for making dumb choices
and now look what happened

 

[guyver]

I said “Worked”, not a guest being interviewed.

However with YouTube many platforms do pay their guests, right no I don’t think that MEO does that.

Boosie mentioned that Vlad paid or pays him 40k for an interview because they generate millions of views.

If you really meant worked for the show, I'll concede the point. I read your statement as adding value to the show. To your point, it's the reason Vlad pays Boosie. Boosie added so much value that Vlad worked out an agreement. However, I doubt Boosie would say he works for Vlad. At best, Boosie would be considered a contract employee which usual just means you're being paid for work.

Even if you mean work for the show, technically Esso and Heineken didn't work for the show formally. They never made it clear if they or Math actually signed the contracts. To me, they initially weren't much different than someone being interviewed. They were guest cohost. I may feel differently depending on how many episodes they appeared on out of all of the episodes prior to them leaving. I will say I'm estimating around 40 appearance out of around 134 episodes at that time.

Like I said before, I'm not speaking from a moral standpoint. I'm mainly speaking on formal agreements of some sort. Not about what we would do or what's the right thing to do, but what was Math obligated to do.

 

[keone]

Whelp

No more to really talk about then right?

What's done is done

I don't think I'm going to listen to bag fuel but wish them the best. If they have a interesting guest... maybe. I still enjoy Math show for the time being.

bag fuel is good cause they talk about the business
the only thing i will say is esso needs to listen hy more
he still doesnt know the basic yet
he iis talking to hy like there are no cameras and no viewers
hy has done this for a long time and knows how to keep an interview interesting for the viewer

 

[keone]

If you really meant worked for the show, I'll concede the point. I read your statement as adding value to the show. To your point, it's the reason Vlad pays Boosie. Boosie added so much value that Vlad worked out an agreement. However, I doubt Boosie would say he works for Vlad. At best, Boosie would be considered a contract employee which usual just means you're being paid for work.

Even if you mean work for the show, technically Esso and Heineken didn't work for the show formally. They never made it clear if they or Math actually signed the contracts. To me, they initially weren't much different than someone being interviewed. They were guest cohost. I may feel differently depending on how many episodes they appeared on out of all of the episodes prior to them leaving. I will say I'm estimating around 40 appearance out of around 134 episodes at that time.

Like I said before, I'm not speaking from a moral standpoint. I'm mainly speaking on formal agreements of some sort. Not about what we would do or what's the right thing to do, but what was Math obligated to do.

u are not wrong but they were employees
math demanded that they showed up
they got paid for 2 months
the fact there was even a contract proves that

 

[REDLINE]

If you really meant worked for the show, I'll concede the point. I read your statement as adding value to the show. To your point, it's the reason Vlad pays Boosie. Boosie added so much value that Vlad worked out an agreement. However, I doubt Boosie would say he works for Vlad. At best, Boosie would be considered a contract employee which usual just means you're being paid for work.

Even if you mean work for the show, technically Esso and Heineken didn't work for the show formally. They never made it clear if they or Math actually signed the contracts. To me, they initially weren't much different than someone being interviewed. They were guest cohost. I may feel differently depending on how many episodes they appeared on out of all of the episodes prior to them leaving. I will say I'm estimating around 40 appearance out of around 134 episodes at that time.

Like I said before, I'm not speaking from a moral standpoint. I'm mainly speaking on formal agreements of some sort. Not about what we would do or what's the right thing to do, but what was Math obligated to do.

Bruh, you've mentioned moral and I believe morally a couple of times.

We're all men here and we're not speaking about legally and what a person is obligated to do.

We all know that if everyone's working on something and working towards something everyone should reap the rewards of the success.

You can argue about obligated, legally and whatever else against it.

We'll all continue to converse on the actuality of the situation and what was done wrong.

 

[REDLINE]

If you really meant worked for the show, I'll concede the point. I read your statement as adding value to the show. To your point, it's the reason Vlad pays Boosie. Boosie added so much value that Vlad worked out an agreement. However, I doubt Boosie would say he works for Vlad. At best, Boosie would be considered a contract employee which usual just means you're being paid for work.

Even if you mean work for the show, technically Esso and Heineken didn't work for the show formally. They never made it clear if they or Math actually signed the contracts. To me, they initially weren't much different than someone being interviewed. They were guest cohost. I may feel differently depending on how many episodes they appeared on out of all of the episodes prior to them leaving. I will say I'm estimating around 40 appearance out of around 134 episodes at that time.

Like I said before, I'm not speaking from a moral standpoint. I'm mainly speaking on formal agreements of some sort. Not about what we would do or what's the right thing to do, but what was Math obligated to do.

This nigga Johnny Cock acting like he just passed the Bar Exam

 

[playahaitian]

You BETTER acknowledge this fire bar I just gifted math, Johnny.

* no matter how high I can get its so cold without my bros.

Ahem

hynaken - high I can

Esso - it's so

You know what???

@therealjondoe

 

[therealjondoe]

Ahem

hynaken - high I can

Esso - it's so

You know what???

@therealjondoe

The higher the altitude/ the colder the atmosphere/shit just ain't the same without the homies that got me here.

 

[keone]

The higher the altitude/ the colder the atmosphere/shit just ain't the same without the homies that got me here.

this

 

[playahaitian]

this

See see see @REDLINE ?

Black man gotta be divisive?

And side with the white friend and turn him against me.

Now I know how Budden feel.

 

[Amajorfucup]

same reason hy and esso gave
about money.

math is horrible business man

And human being.

who said they were lying?
it has not be proven they was lying
they were actually naming names
while math has been vague since the start
how u lose 6k conveniently and even if it did happen why not say anything till after the fact

it makes him look bad cause bigga was his long time friend
and bigga makes money
so when math starting to act like a boss
then bigga said ok then pay me
so all this time bigga was not getting paid apparently.

and what makes math also look bad how many times has the team change
i cant keep up anymore

i am still listening tho might have few more updates after the interview.

Typical low IQ hoodscum and street nigga.. No professionalism, morals or business ethics... and even less accountability.

Good. So they should never mention Math name again stop bringing up old stuff.

In fact peace it up

Thank him for the opportunity

And now we all cool

Nigga you done lost your fucking mind. I aint peacing shit up with a man that cheats me and i will mention that shit as long as i want to. Be glad i dont sue and kill yo muthafuckin ass.

 

[playahaitian]

And human being.

Typical low IQ hoodscum and street nigga.. No professionalism, morals or business ethics... and even less accountability.

Nigga you done lost your fucking mind. I aint peacing shit up with a man that cheats me and i will mention that shit as long as i want to. Be glad i dont sue and kill yo muthafuckin ass.

 

[guyver]

Bruh, you've mentioned moral and I believe morally a couple of times.

We're all men here and we're not speaking about legally and what a person is obligated to do.

We all know that if everyone's working on something and working towards something everyone should reap the rewards of the success.

You can argue about obligated, legally and whatever else against it.

We'll all continue to converse on the actuality of the situation and what was done wrong.

Yes, I've used the term moral.

Second they initially didn't ask to be paid.when they did, Math attempted to give them a contract. Those are the actual facts. You're bringing your personal feelings into the situation. You feel like they should have been paid and I'm not saying you're wrong. If you take an unpaid apprenticeship, are you going to come back and cry about not being paid for your work? I guarantee most people on here don't pay their parents to watch their kids.

The reality is most people don't care about your morality. The sooner people realize that friend, family or people who share your skin may not be much better than strangers people will stop being taken advantage of.

You want me to believe Esso who basically said he didn't really know Math worked for free and didn't consider being on the show an opportunity? The opportunity was the accepted form of payment at that time. They say as much in the video, but they try to switch it up to say they were investing in Math's platform. Esso says he's in the industry, so I don't see him not knowing early on that the pod could be making some kind of money. I could believe he wasn't aware of how much Math made, but that's where it stops. Keep in mind, that Esso said they only got paid a few times right before leaving. So, let's say they were there for a year. It took a damn near a year to ask for money?

 

[guyver]

This nigga Johnny Cock acting like he just passed the Bar Exam

Does it count if I come from a family of lawyers.

 

[keone]

See see see @REDLINE ?

Black man gotta be divisive?

And side with the white friend and turn him against me.

Now I know how Budden feel.

let @therealjondoe cook

 

[keone]

And human being.

Typical low IQ hoodscum and street nigga.. No professionalism, morals or business ethics... and even less accountability.

Nigga you done lost your fucking mind. I aint peacing shit up with a man that cheats me and i will mention that shit as long as i want to. Be glad i dont sue and kill yo muthafuckin ass.

thats a fact does why he doesnt talk about spaceghost he got paperwork

yeahhh negro

 

[guyver]

u are not wrong but they were employees
math demanded that they showed up
they got paid for 2 months
the fact there was even a contract proves that

Yeah, we talking about two months out of how many months though. They had to have been there close to a year.

Did he demand or did he ask them to come. And was this after or before he started paying them. Math mentioned that right before they left, he got the impression that they were filming their shit. If I'm paying you and we are potentially negotiating, yes I'm demanding you show up.

The contract proves Math offered them an official role On the Pod. It doesn't prove they were considered employee's earlier on. Now this could have just been Bigga, but that's the reason he said why are you saying I'm late. Correct me if I'm wrong he went on to say he wasn't an employee of Math's. I thought Heineken and Esso had the same attitude and that was part of the reason they asked to be paid. Math was request that they felt required a contract and payment.

I'm still trying to figure out if the contract ever got officially signed by either side.

 

[REDLINE]

Yes, I've used the term moral.

Second they initially didn't ask to be paid.when they did, Math attempted to give them a contract. Those are the actual facts. You're bringing your personal feelings into the situation. You feel like they should have been paid and I'm not saying you're wrong. If you take an unpaid apprenticeship, are you going to come back and cry about not being paid for your work? I guarantee most people on here don't pay their parents to watch their kids.

The reality is most people don't care about your morality. The sooner people realize that friend, family or people who share your skin may not be much better than strangers people will stop being taken advantage of.

You want me to believe Esso who basically said he didn't really know Math worked for free and didn't consider being on the show an opportunity? The opportunity was the accepted form of payment at that time. They say as much in the video, but they try to switch it up to say they were investing in Math's platform. Esso says he's in the industry, so I don't see him not knowing early on that the pod could be making some kind of money. I could believe he wasn't aware of how much Math made, but that's where it stops. Keep in mind, that Esso said they only got paid a few times right before leaving. So, let's say they were there for a year. It took a damn near a year to ask for money?

Regardless of contracts, obligations or agreements. I believe that people working on a million dollar podcast or project together should get paid.

If you don't cool, any other convo's pointless so

 

[TENT]

Bag Fuel is a better produced show. I will have to say the dude SpaceGhost has some skills. I hope he is getting paid now.

Esso isn’t as dope as he thinks he is and neither is Math.

 

[playahaitian]

Regardless of contracts, obligations or agreements. I believe that people working on a million dollar podcast or project together should get paid.

If you don't cool, any other convo's pointless so

You not wrong

 

[playahaitian]

let @therealjondoe cook

Bro...

I been in the kitchen

And gotten a shout out on a track

 

[keone]

Bag Fuel is a better produced show. I will have to say the dude SpaceGhost has some skills. I hope he is getting paid now.

Esso isn’t as dope as he thinks he is and neither is Math.

he is moving he does dj clue podcast too amd few others
also worls with al

 

[playahaitian]

he is moving he does dj clue podcast too amd few others
also worls with al

I root for ghost

 

[keone]

Bro...

I been in the kitchen

And gotten a shout out on a track

u the man


the old man

 

[keone]

I root for ghost

he prolly makes the most now out of all of them
he good. i think he might to tv next