ESPN has signed Shannon Sharpe to a multi-year contract extension.

[TIMEISMONEY]

Happy for him!

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

many actors dont know how to write a script. Just cause you good at one thing don’t mean you good at other things.. remember the whole dame dash/ envy convo.. envy and the rest of the breakfast club could have did their own thing but they were comfortable being under somebody else umbrella than creating their own.. there’s way to get around the whole clips thing as well as you don’t necessarily need clips and could just talk about the game without showing footage.. some people are just more comfortable being under somebodies else umbrella than creating their own

Two hall of fame multi-millionare retired basketball players who already have successful business ventures and production companies can't figure out how to do an NBA show if they really want to? OK if you say so.

The way Barkley is joking about loosing a paycheck, it's probably more about not spending his own money vs him being incapable of doing it, even though he did offer to do the show through his production company at one point.

Barkley wants to do an Inside the NBA, type show not a podcast.

 

[godofwine]

It's a damn shame that white supremacy is so prevalent that black people can't keep that same energy when they on TV or risk making Massa mad. Part of it is self-preservation, I get it, but God damn I'm just not the tap dance type

 

[BenQ]

i dont know this is not the same shannon from Undisputed
he has been boring on first take
but congrats

 

[tallblacknyc]

Two hall of fame multi-millionare retired basketball players who already have successful business ventures and production companies can't figure out how to do an NBA show if they really want to? OK if you say so.

The way Barkley is joking about loosing a paycheck, it's probably more about not spending his own money vs him being incapable of doing it, even though he did offer to do the show through his production company at one point.

Barkley wants to do an Inside the NBA, type show not a podcast.

Do they have an NBA show? If they don't than obviously it more likely means they don't know how to create 1. There's various sports shows out there that don't use clips. They talk about various subjects, etc, interview guest, etc.. they could do the same or something diff that doesn't necessarily need clips if they hard to get. The fact they haven't built it shows maybe they don't necessarily have the know how. Shaq has a podcast so obviously they not shy to doing a podcast thing.. also there's plenty of well known YouTube shows that are dedicated to showing old school clips, certain players, certain history in sports, etc.. so someway you can get clips.. hopefully they can fig something out

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

Do they have an NBA show? If they don't than obviously it more likely means they don't know how to create 1. There's various sports shows out there that don't use clips. They talk about various subjects, etc, interview guest, etc.. they could do the same or something diff that doesn't necessarily need clips if they hard to get. The fact they haven't built it shows maybe they don't necessarily have the know how. Shaq has a podcast so obviously they not shy to doing a podcast thing.. also there's plenty of well known YouTube shows that are dedicated to showing old school clips, certain players, certain history in sports, etc.. so someway you can get clips.. hopefully they can fig something out

Send your idea to Barley since you seem to more than he does. By your logic, he must be dumber than shit if he's totally incapable of doing what everybody else is doing and there's no way he has already decided for whatever reason he doesn't seem to want to do the type of show YOU think he should be doing.

When I questioned your boy MKHD-(SP?), you clutched your pearls and ask me how dare I question MK's business model, yet this is exactly what you are doing with Barkley. To suggest Barkley is too stupid and incapable of putting a show together similar to what you suggested is extremely laughable at best.

 

[Diomedes3000]

Everyone pretending he ain't getting that money to shit on black folks. Soon he going to have to stir up controversy. Him and Stephen A have the same job. If they playing to nice, the network gone tell them do your job or else. Both these dudes are Manchurian candidates who all about themselves.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Send your idea to Barley since you seem to more than he does. By your logic, he must be dumber than shit if he's totally incapable of doing what everybody else is doing and there's no way he has already decided for whatever reason he doesn't seem to want to do the type of show YOU think he should be doing.

When I questioned your boy MKHD-(SP?), you clutched your pearls and ask me how dare I question MK's business model, yet this is exactly what you are doing with Barkley. To suggest Barkley is too stupid and incapable of putting a show together similar to what you suggested is extremely laughable at best.

Damn homie you literally held in a convo from months ago maybe even last yr sounds like you have issues. You literally said mkhd dosent work with black people and I literally proved he did multiple times and even proved he had a black employee. you actually was proving wrong with your comments. Funny how your recollection of that convo completely off.. clutch my pearls nig please everybody on this bitch no I’m outspoken and don’t hold shit back so you claiming I clutch my pearls sounds like utter bullshit. As for this topic you never heard me called barkley stupid. I said maybe he’s comfortable working under someone else umbrella instead of doing it himself. Or as someone else claimed you need rights or whatever to get footage so maybe he dosent know how to get around that or maybe never considered doing a show without them. Everyone dosent know everything and maybe there’s certain things he don’t know to get around certain barriers. Shit happens to the best of us. I did say I hope they figure something out after next season…. Now let’s see how you try to flip what I said into some bullshit since you claimed I clutch my pearls on another subJect months ago… lol playahatian you hear this bullshit someone trying to speak about me of all people?

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

Damn homie you literally held in a convo from months ago maybe even last yr sounds like you have issues. You literally said mkhd dosent work with black people and I literally proved he did multiple times and even proved he had a black employee. you actually was proving wrong with your comments. Funny how your recollection of that convo completely off.. clutch my pearls nig please everybody on this bitch no I’m outspoken and don’t hold shit back so you claiming I clutch my pearls sounds like utter bullshit. As for this topic you never heard me called barkley stupid. I said maybe he’s comfortable working under someone else umbrella instead of doing it himself. Or as someone else claimed you need rights or whatever to get footage so maybe he dosent know how to get around that or maybe never considered doing a show without them. Everyone dosent know everything and maybe there’s certain things he don’t know to get around certain barriers. Shit happens to the best of us. I did say I hope they figure something out after next season…. Now let’s see how you try to flip what I said into some bullshit since you claimed I clutch my pearls on another subJect months ago… lol playahatian you hear this bullshit someone trying to speak about me of all people?

My specific complaint about your boy was his lack of willingness to put More black people on HIS staff, and you called me gate keeper because of it.

Barkely has made it clear he wants to do INSIDE THE NBA as it is done now. he has made it clear he's not interested in doing anything remotely different. Why else was he begging TNT to get a new contract so they can continue the show as is or allow him to take the show to another network under HIS OWN PRODUCTION COMPANY?

It seems Barkley, who has been in the media business for DECADES, has decided for whatever reason he doesn't seem to want to do the independent you tube, podcast route even though it has become a proven legit income stream. You forget he had the perfect medium to do that when that CNN show he was doing with Gayle King got canceled. That show was begging for a podcast/youtube version (ask Joe Rogan).

My guess Barkley is being cheap and not wanting to come out of pocket or being lazy since he would have to work year round or a lot more than what he does for what he's getting paid to do at TNT. Either way, I am not calling the man stupid or naive like you seem to be doing.

 

[tallblacknyc]

My specific complaint about your boy was his lack of willingness to put More black people on HIS staff, and you called me gate keeper because of it.

Barkely has made it clear he wants to do INSIDE THE NBA as it is done now. he has made it clear he's not interested in doing anything remotely different. Why else was he begging TNT to get a new contract so they can continue the show as is or allow him to take the show to another network under HIS OWN PRODUCTION COMPANY?

It seems Barkley, who has been in the media business for DECADES, has decided for whatever reason he doesn't seem to want to do the independent you tube, podcast route even though it has become a proven legit income stream. You forget he had the perfect medium to do that when that CNN show he was doing with Gayle King got canceled. That show was begging for a podcast/youtube version (ask Joe Rogan).

My guess Barkley is being cheap and not wanting to come out of pocket or being lazy since he would have to work year round or a lot more than what he does for what he's getting paid to do at TNT. Either way, I am not calling the man stupid or naive like you seem to be doing.

I called you a gatekeeper ?nig I don’t even use those type of terms. You said ole boy didn’t work with black people and I posted various diff scenarios that he did.. once again you were proven wrong.. now on to this subject I never called barkley stupid.. you once again creating false narratives. I literally said it more than once that he more than likely is more comfortable being under someone else umbrella than creating his own. somebody said it’s barriers to getting clips and I clearly said he obviously doesn’t know the loopholes if that’s stopping him.. so now what you want to talk about now or shall I say lie about now? .. nowhere did I say barkley was stupid in fact you the only person that keeps throwing that narrative around, maybe it’s you with the problem with barkley intelligence

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

I called you a gatekeeper ?nig I don’t even use those type of terms. You said ole boy didn’t work with black people and I posted various diff scenarios that he did.. once again you were proven wrong.. now on to this subject I never called barkley stupid.. you once again creating false narratives. I literally said it more than once that he more than likely is more comfortable being under someone else umbrella than creating his own. somebody said it’s barriers to getting clips and I clearly said he obviously doesn’t know the loopholes if that’s stopping him.. so now what you want to talk about now or shall I say lie about now? .. nowhere did I say barkley was stupid in fact you the only person that keeps throwing that narrative around, maybe it’s you with the problem with barkley intelligence

If you really think a NBA hall of famer, who has done DECADES of NBA media, can't figure out how or who to call to talk about those loopholes as you say, you are as dumb as you think Barkley is...lol.

You can keep playing dumb with my argument about wanting see more than one or two black people on his staff all you want. I was clear about what I said and what I meant, so you can stop with that he got one on his staff so HA!! bullshit.

 

[tallblacknyc]

If you really think a NBA hall of famer, who has done DECADES of NBA media, can't figure out how or who to call to talk about those loopholes as you say, you are as dumb as you think Barkley is...lol.

You can keep playing dumb with my argument about wanting see more than one or two black people on his staff all you want. I was clear about what I said and what I meant, so you can stop with that he got one on his staff so HA!! bullshit.

You brung up a several month old conversation where you lied about me clutching my pearls..people said he didn’t work with black people and was proven wrong.. don’t claim something where evidence clearly shows you are wrong.. as far as this argument you keep overlooking everything I say to say some random dumb shit.. like I said b4 he clearly is comfortable working under someone else umbrella and that’s why he didn’t create his own.. that should be the end of subject but you will come in here to get the last word even if it’s nonsense cause clearly that’s the type of person you are.. this debate was useless.. in 6 months ull hold this thread in your mind and lie about the outcome in it.. see you in December when you randomly bring it up mr last word

 

[keone]

It's a damn shame that white supremacy is so prevalent that black people can't keep that same energy when they on TV or risk making Massa mad. Part of it is self-preservation, I get it, but God damn I'm just not the tap dance type

Shannon was to black with skip. I dont even know how he got to do that. I guess thats one thing u can give skip credit for he let Shannon be Shannon.

 

[keone]

Everyone pretending he ain't getting that money to shit on black folks. Soon he going to have to stir up controversy. Him and Stephen A have the same job. If they playing to nice, the network gone tell them do your job or else. Both these dudes are Manchurian candidates who all about themselves.

I see what u are saying. After watching some of club Shay Shay interviews. As smart as he is his mentality at certain places is like he on love n hop hop wave. Im like at ur age why the fk u worry about that?

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

You brung up a several month old conversation where you lied about me clutching my pearls..people said he didn’t work with black people and was proven wrong.. don’t claim something where evidence clearly shows you are wrong.. as far as this argument you keep overlooking everything I say to say some random dumb shit.. like I said b4 he clearly is comfortable working under someone else umbrella and that’s why he didn’t create his own.. that should be the end of subject but you will come in here to get the last word even if it’s nonsense cause clearly that’s the type of person you are.. this debate was useless.. in 6 months ull hold this thread in your mind and lie about the outcome in it.. see you in December when you randomly bring it up mr last word

If you felt that way you could stopped responding a long time ago. We both agreed that he' doesn't seem interested in being his own boss for whatever reason. But again to suggest in any way he was incapable of figuring out how to do if he chose too, was pretty dumb no matter how you try to spin it.

His business model his chose remember?

 

[blackman80]

ESPN is about to give Unc his own show soon!!...I see it coming!!..

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

No, they can use clips of games in their show. Your local News shows do it all the time and youtube channels do.
They just have to use it in a fashion called "fair use"
To add, if they want to use a lot of detailed material it's not crazy expensive to do. A lot of channels on YouTube are given permission from the NBA like the FreeDawkins channel

What TNT is not re-upping is the broadcasting of GAMES (which was expensive) on their channel, not necessarily access to NBA "material" for a show. So some type of show that recaps games at the end on the night is totally achievable

The quasi-legal world of NBA highlight videos

A look inside the quasi-legal world of NBA highlight channels on Youtube, an NBA fan’s best friend.

www.si.com

This article makes it seem clear that at any time the NBA can copyright claim Dawkins channel. According to the article, they have done it before

 

[tallblacknyc]

If you felt that way you could stopped responding a long time ago. We both agreed that he' doesn't seem interested in being his own boss for whatever reason. But again to suggest in any way he was incapable of figuring out how to do if he chose too, was pretty dumb no matter how you try to spin it.

His business model his chose remember?

You like to argue for no reason , it’s obvious with you bringing up old shit.. I already said he more likely rather be under someone else umbrella on the first page and you kept arguing and saying the same shit multiple times even though it pretty much matched what I said, so you obviously like to hear yourself talk. Like I said you was Gonna come in here to try to get the final word.. u’ll hold this thread in your brain for the next 6 months and randomly talk about it in some upcoming argument..see you in December


your last word response coming soon

 

[Walter Panov]

i dont know this is not the same shannon from Undisputed
he has been boring on first take
but congrats

I liked him better on Undisputed too.

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

You like to argue for no reason , it’s obvious with you bringing up old shit.. I already said he more likely rather be under someone else umbrella on the first page and you kept arguing and saying the same shit multiple times even though it pretty much matched what I said, so you obviously like to hear yourself talk. Like I said you was Gonna come in here to try to get the final word.. u’ll hold this thread in your brain for the next 6 months and randomly talk about it in some upcoming argument..see you in December


your last word response coming soon

The quasi-legal world of NBA highlight videos

A look inside the quasi-legal world of NBA highlight channels on Youtube, an NBA fan’s best friend.

www.si.com

 

[tallblacknyc]

The quasi-legal world of NBA highlight videos

A look inside the quasi-legal world of NBA highlight channels on Youtube, an NBA fan’s best friend.

www.si.com

https://www.youtube.com/@mj23haf

 

[tallblacknyc]

The quasi-legal world of NBA highlight videos

A look inside the quasi-legal world of NBA highlight channels on Youtube, an NBA fan’s best friend.

www.si.com

Thinking Basketball

Merging film study with stats - created by Ben Taylor, host of the Thinking Basketball podcast and author of Thinking Basketball book. Additional Thinking Basketball content is available on the NBA App, NBA YouTube page, and other official NBA social media platforms, as well as the More Thinking...

www.youtube.com

 

[tallblacknyc]

The problem is they won't be able to legally access NBA material without having rights similar to what TNT is refusing to re-up.

another thread where you make a bogus statement and theirs proof where individuals show that you can.. see you in December

 

[850credit]

I liked him better on Undisputed too.

He can be himself on his 2 YouTube channels.

We all wear the mask.

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

another thread where you make a bogus statement and theirs proof where individuals show that you can.. see you in December

build a a business a model around quasi-legal premise...#bossmoves

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

Thinking Basketball

Merging film study with stats - created by Ben Taylor, host of the Thinking Basketball podcast and author of Thinking Basketball book. Additional Thinking Basketball content is available on the NBA App, NBA YouTube page, and other official NBA social media platforms, as well as the More Thinking...

www.youtube.com

look on the bright side, barkely can hire a black staffer or two and show us how's he winning...lol.

anyway dumbshit, actually dispute the point of the article I posted or just admit you actually didn't know what the fuck you were talking about.

 

[tallblacknyc]

build a a business a model around quasi-legal premise...#bossmoves

Your favorite YouTuber build a multi million dollar biz doing what most individuals who work retail in tech could do.. who would ever think that was possible but now we are here

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

another thread where you make a bogus statement and theirs proof where individuals show that you can.. see you in December

The quasi-legal world of NBA highlight videos

A look inside the quasi-legal world of NBA highlight channels on Youtube, an NBA fan’s best friend.

www.si.com

“I admit it,” says the anonymous channel owner, referring to the borderline legal status. “Yeah, like I said before, NBA took a lot of my channels down. But I keep doing this thing, my new channels gets 10 to 20 thousand subscribers in three to four days! That's crazy! People support my work, my content and that is really awesome.“

 

[tallblacknyc]

look on the bright side, barkely can hire a black staffer or two and show us how's he winning...lol.

anyway dumbshit, actually dispute the point of the article I posted or just admit you actually didn't know what the fuck you were talking about.

The dumbshit would be the guy who said you can’t use clips to create sport shows/ media.. when everybody on here knows there’s various YouTube channels full of clips and individuals are making money.. don’t be mad cause you keep saying shit that gets proving wrong

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

another thread where you make a bogus statement and theirs proof where individuals show that you can.. see you in December

The quasi-legal world of NBA highlight videos

A look inside the quasi-legal world of NBA highlight channels on Youtube, an NBA fan’s best friend.

www.si.com

It seems like the NBA could shutter all these channels pretty easily if they wanted. Their case is ironclad; people outside the Association using its telecasts for profit is strictly prohibited, that’s not exactly in the fine print. But remarkably, the Silver regime has been pretty progressive on the topic. At last year’s MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference, Silver was asked about the massive amount of unregulated content on YouTube.

 

[tallblacknyc]

look on the bright side, barkely can hire a black staffer or two and show us how's he winning...lol.

anyway dumbshit, actually dispute the point of the article I posted or just admit you actually didn't know what the fuck you were talking about.

Maybe Barkley will deny you work like mk did and you will hold a grudge like you did for mk and sound like a scorned bitch discrediting his name.. that’s what the real story is within your argument.. just like you held in your anger for 6 months over another thread where I proved you wrong.. damn homie just let it go and move on there will be more opportunities for you

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

The dumbshit would be the guy who said you can’t use clips to create sport shows/ media.. when everybody on here knows there’s various YouTube channels full of clips and individuals are making money.. don’t be mad cause you keep saying shit that gets proving wrong

What the fuck happens if the NBA goes the NFL route with hard shut down?
Dumbshit, Barkely is not going to build his show around a quasi-legal premise.

You really are that fucking stupid.,

 

[tallblacknyc]

What the fuck happens if the NBA goes the NFL route with hard shut down?
Dumbshit, Barkely is not going to build his show around a quasi-legal premise.

You really are that fucking stupid.,

If isn’t definitely.. ive posted clips from YouTube channels thats been around for over 8+ yrs.. imagine “if” they thought the samething when they first started they wouldn’t currently be successful.. already said you can build a show with clips or without.. when dynamics change you change with it

 

[An RnB Thug]

The quasi-legal world of NBA highlight videos

A look inside the quasi-legal world of NBA highlight channels on Youtube, an NBA fan’s best friend.

www.si.com

This article makes it seem clear that at any time the NBA can copyright claim Dawkins channel. According to the article, they have done it before

Let me make this clear

ANY BODY CAN USE NBA CLIPS for NEWS, COMMENTARY, CRITICISM, or EDUCATIONAL purposes.
PERIOD. No if's, ands, or buts about it. "FAIR USE" supersedes the copyright laws pertaining to the videos.

FreeDawkins and others seem to be using it for ENTERTAINMENT purposes which DOES violate laws.
Again, your local news, ESPN, CNN, MSG or whoever is reporting NBA game highlights are using clips WITHOUT paying
because it's "FAIR USE" and they are "reporting the news" (games)

Hope this is clearer

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

Let me make this clear

ANY BODY CAN USE NBA CLIPS for NEWS, COMMENTARY, CRITICISM, or EDUCATIONAL purposes.
PERIOD. No if's, ands, or buts about it. "FAIR USE" supersedes the copyright laws pertaining to the videos.

FreeDawkins and others seem to be using it for ENTERTAINMENT purposes which DOES violate laws.
Again, your local news, ESPN, CNN, MSG or whoever is reporting NBA game highlights are using clips WITHOUT paying
because it's "FAIR USE" and they are "reporting the news" (games)

Hope this is clearer

Okay, but since we were talking specifically about you tube at the time, there is that constant threat of your content being pulled or your channel demonetized cause of a copyright claim regardless of whether or not the claim was legit. Someone like Barkley is not going to build a channel built on that premise.