Farrakhan on abortion

ronmch20

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Personally I am not pro abortion but that said my pro or con opinion should not matter one bit. Abortion is a matter between a woman, her doctor and God. No Government entity should be able to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body just like it shouldn't be allowed to tell a person when he or she can end their life, especially when that person is terminal and in horrific unabated pain. :hmm:
 

exiledking

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Personally I am not pro abortion but that said my pro or con opinion should not matter one bit. Abortion is a matter between a woman, her doctor and God. No Government entity should be able to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body just like it shouldn't be allowed to tell a person when he or she can end their life, especially when that person is terminal and in horrific unabated pain. :hmm:
I'm pro abortion. Not just pro choice but pro abortion. Pro choice is a pussy way of saying it.

That said, people who are pro life aren't thinking about this as a "woman's body" issue. They see it as saving the life of an.unborn child just as murder of any other human being. Abortion is not a simple topic and that piece about the woman's body is weak. We know this because EVERYBODY agrees that at some point even when the child is in tbe womb , they should be protected. The pro life people just take that point further back.

And for Black people, the argument for a long time has been against abortion on the basis that even though black people are 13% of the population, we are 40% of the abortions. Hard core conspiracy people would call that a eugenics mission.
 

Drayonis

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Abortion as it stands today is about saving white lives. It's just another facet on the "we are losing our country" ring. Whites have low birth rates and abortion digs into their numbers further. This isn't about "preserving life" simply. It's about preserving WHITE LIFE first and foremost.
 
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M3MD

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Abortion as it stands today is about saving white lives. It's just another facet of "we are losing our country" ring. Whites have low birth rates and abortion digs into their numbers further. This isn't about "preserving life" simply. It's about preserving white life first and foremost.

Yup
 

ronmch20

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I'm pro abortion. Not just pro choice but pro abortion. Pro choice is a pussy way of saying it.

That said, people who are pro life aren't thinking about this as a "woman's body" issue. They see it as saving the life of an.unborn child just as murder of any other human being. Abortion is not a simple topic and that piece about the woman's body is weak. We know this because EVERYBODY agrees that at some point even when the child is in tbe womb , they should be protected. The pro life people just take that point further back.

And for Black people, the argument for a long time has been against abortion on the basis that even though black people are 13% of the population, we are 40% of the abortions. Hard core conspiracy people would call that a eugenics mission.

Need a little clarification bruh. You say you are pro abortion and yet later on you say, "EVERYBODY agrees that at some point even when the child is in the womb , they should be protected".
Are you saying your disagreement is with the term pro choice, or are you saying you're in favor of abortion as an act, not just terms associated with it? As for you statement that black people are 13% of the population but have 40% of abortions I find those figures a bit suspect. I dare say we are not aborting 40% of our children. I think it's safe to say abortions by white, Asian, Latino and other women are occurring much more frequently than what is recorded and reported. :hmm:
 

Drayonis

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I'm pro abortion. Not just pro choice but pro abortion. Pro choice is a pussy way of saying it.

That said, people who are pro life aren't thinking about this as a "woman's body" issue. They see it as saving the life of an.unborn child just as murder of any other human being. Abortion is not a simple topic and that piece about the woman's body is weak. We know this because EVERYBODY agrees that at some point even when the child is in tbe womb , they should be protected. The pro life people just take that point further back.

And for Black people, the argument for a long time has been against abortion on the basis that even though black people are 13% of the population, we are 40% of the abortions. Hard core conspiracy people would call that a eugenics mission.

White people are 46% and still outdoing black women in more states. The highest rates for black women are in concentrated black cities like DC. But white women are across the board in every state that collects racial data.
 

exiledking

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Abortion as it stands today is about saving white lives. It's just another facet of "we are losing our country" ring. Whites have low birth rates and abortion digs into their numbers further. This isn't about "preserving life" simply. It's about preserving white life first and foremost.
How?


In Alabama 60% of the abortions are Black people.

In Georgia it's 66% black
Shit, in DC, it's 76% black

You don't need to change a law to have people making more babies.

How can you see the conspiracy in abolishing abortion and not in the outrageous amounts it's encouraged in Black communities?
 

4 Dimensional

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Need a little clarification bruh. You say you are pro abortion and yet later on you say, "EVERYBODY agrees that at some point even when the child is in the womb , they should be protected".
Are you saying your disagreement is with the term pro choice, or are you saying you're in favor of abortion as an act, not just terms associated with it? As for you statement that black people are 13% of the population but have 40% of abortions I find those figures a bit suspect. I dare say we are not aborting 40% of our children. I think it's safe to say abortions by white, Asian, Latino and other women are occurring much more frequently than what is recorded and reported. :hmm:

Yeah. Them percentages is some bullshit. They’re not telling me anything else other than propaganda.

I would love to see the raw numbers.

I want all the tallies of abortion’s by race. How come it’s always easy to find percentages, but the raw data it was calculated from is damn near impossible?
 

exiledking

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God don’t give a fuck about any of this shit we make issues about in the first place.
Well it happens to be an issue because people in all societies fuck, and women end up pregnant , so there has tobe some discussions every now and then on how people should handle that. It doesn't come up for nothing
 

4 Dimensional

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Well it happens to be an issue because people in all societies fuck, and women end up pregnant , so there has tobe some discussions every now and then on how people should handle that. It doesn't come up for nothing

Only because humans like to make things into an issue that matter to them some way or somehow.

My favorite part is how humans morally justify these things (for or against).
 

Drayonis

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How?


In Alabama 60% of the abortions are Black people.

In Georgia it's 66% black
Shit, in DC, it's 76% black

You don't need to change a law to have people making more babies.

How can you see the conspiracy in abolishing abortion and not in the outrageous amounts it's encouraged in Black communities?


46% of abortions are by white women. It's the reason white supremacists and many Southern Lawmakers (who are white supremacists) thanked Alabama openly online this week. They (white supremacists) even openly say abortion should only be illegal for white people. Everyone else and especially blacks it should be the norm.
 

exiledking

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Need a little clarification bruh. You say you are pro abortion and yet later on you say, "EVERYBODY agrees that at some point even when the child is in the womb , they should be protected".
Are you saying your disagreement is with the term pro choice, or are you saying you're in favor of abortion as an act, not just terms associated with it? As for you statement that black people are 13% of the population but have 40% of abortions I find those figures a bit suspect. I dare say we are not aborting 40% of our children. I think it's safe to say abortions by white, Asian, Latino and other women are occurring much more frequently than what is recorded and reported. :hmm:
When I say 40% of the abortions are Black women, that's coming from the figures tallied by people monitoring the total amount of abortions. 40% of the people coming in and out of abortion clinics are Black. That's in tbe whole country. In Alabama , it's 60% of the abortions in that state. Feel free to find any stats made by anyone. Militants have been.saying this well before this came.up.


As far As what everybody agrees to, I'll give you an easy example. You or I wouldn't think it's ok to abort a baby when a woman is 8 months in. 6 months in. Over 3 months. Pro life people take that back to conception and they see it as murder.
 

exiledking

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Only because humans like to make things into an issue that matter to them some way or somehow.

My favorite part is how humans morally justify these things (for or against).
Are you not human? Have you ever gotten someone pregnant? If so, then it becomes important to you. Or maybe when someone in your family does. Or a friend. Or some woman you know GETS pregnant somehow. If not, and you don't care to discuss it, cool.
 

exiledking

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Need a little clarification bruh. You say you are pro abortion and yet later on you say, "EVERYBODY agrees that at some point even when the child is in the womb , they should be protected".
Are you saying your disagreement is with the term pro choice, or are you saying you're in favor of abortion as an act, not just terms associated with it? As for you statement that black people are 13% of the population but have 40% of abortions I find those figures a bit suspect. I dare say we are not aborting 40% of our children. I think it's safe to say abortions by white, Asian, Latino and other women are occurring much more frequently than what is recorded and reported. :hmm:


You ever see these signs in white, Asian, Latino , or other communities?



Or this. In African countries , abortion is illegal. Theres been pushes to get more contraception there. This African woman says keep it away. This was posted years ago
 

4 Dimensional

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Are you not human? Have you ever gotten someone pregnant? If so, then it becomes important to you. Or maybe when someone in your family does. Or a friend. Or some woman you know GETS pregnant somehow. If not, and you don't care to discuss it, cool.

I’m most certainly human. I just don’t care they same way as other do.

Because I know humans will find a to contradict themselves and make an issue out of something else. And again, with morality being my favorite part of it all.
 

exiledking

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Great post.

My issue with abortion is that we not allowed to say "but". Either for or against. I say do what you want.....but dont act like its not terminating life
Yeah it's really a complex issue. I totally get wanting to wait a little bit if it's too early in life, or maybe if a family already has more children than they feel.they can take care of, but I also got that people don't like that and see it as murder. I don't think you can easily say one way or the other. There's no true scientific consensus on it if we're being honest. And socitieies throughout time fall back on their customs to decide what's the norm and what's ok. Some places in India will straight kill a born daughter because in their society a daughter is a burden. Thats some strange shit to us. Many African and Latin countries don't play abortion and are much stricter. Arabs too.
 

exiledking

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I’m most certainly human. I just don’t care they same way as other do.

Because I know humans will find a to contradict themselves and make an issue out of something else. And again, with morality being my favorite part of it all.
Ok then. .I guess this discussions isn't interesting to you. Did you just come on here to tell us that? It is most definitely a contradictory issue. You're contradicting yourself by coming to talk about something you don't even care about.
 

4 Dimensional

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Ok then. .I guess this discussions isn't interesting to you. Did you just come on here to tell us that?

Honestly. Yes I did.

I can admit that. I just felt the need to just say that.

Thanks. That’s was actually a liberating feeling to admit that because I didn’t realize how much of a non issue this has become to me. I use to care, but obviously, not anymore. I’ll leave the thread.
 

ronmch20

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When I say 40% of the abortions are Black women, that's coming from the figures tallied by people monitoring the total amount of abortions. 40% of the people coming in and out of abortion clinics are Black. That's in tbe whole country. In Alabama , it's 60% of the abortions in that state. Feel free to find any stats made by anyone. Militants have been.saying this well before this came.up.


As far As what everybody agrees to, I'll give you an easy example. You or I wouldn't think it's ok to abort a baby when a woman is 8 months in. 6 months in. Over 3 months. Pro life people take that back to conception and they see it as murder.

That is why I believe the 40% stat is suspect. Do you think most white women having abortions go to public clinics? No, they don't want it known that they are about to abort and opt to have it done in private hospitals and by private doctors. White women have been doing it that way for decades. Unfortunately most black women do not have the economic means to end pregnancies "privately" and must resort to having it done relatively cheaply in "clinics". That being the case the total reported abortion numbers are skewed in such a way that it would appear black women abort babies much more than white women do. However, in as much as birth rates among whites have stalled the logical conclusion is they're either aborting a whole more than thought or they ain't fucking as much. :rolleyes:
 

exiledking

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That is why I believe the 40% stat is suspect. Do you think most white women having abortions go to public clinics? No, they don't want it known that they are about to abort and opt to have it done in private hospitals and by private doctors. White women have been doing it that way for decades. Unfortunately most black women do not have the economic means to end pregnancies "privately" and must resort to having it done relatively cheaply in "clinics". That being the case the total reported abortion numbers are skewed in such a way that it would appear black women abort babies much more than white women do. However, in as much as birth rates among whites have stalled the logical conclusion is they're either aborting a whole more than thought or they ain't fucking as much. :rolleyes:
Ok so let's ay that's true.

What to stop them.from doing the same thing when it's illegal? If they ain't getting recorded now, they can't be recorded then.

But aside from the "skewed numbers" if you've been to an abortion clinic you would visibly SEE way more Black women than White or any other group. Try it out.
 

exiledking

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Honestly. Yes I did.

I can admit that. I just felt the need to just say that.

Thanks. That’s was actually a liberating feeling to admit that because I didn’t realize how much of a non issue this has become to me. I use to care, but obviously, not anymore. I’ll leave the thread.
Respect. I understand that too
 

blaze

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I'm pro abortion. Not just pro choice but pro abortion. Pro choice is a pussy way of saying it.

That said, people who are pro life aren't thinking about this as a "woman's body" issue. They see it as saving the life of an.unborn child just as murder of any other human being. Abortion is not a simple topic and that piece about the woman's body is weak. We know this because EVERYBODY agrees that at some point even when the child is in tbe womb , they should be protected. The pro life people just take that point further back.

And for Black people, the argument for a long time has been against abortion on the basis that even though black people are 13% of the population, we are 40% of the abortions. Hard core conspiracy people would call that a eugenics mission.

Well, I see your argument, but I think you got me wrong a little bit. I am not in favor of abortion...right now. I think that it is a woman's choice to do that shit to her body. Let's not forget that shit is hard on a woman's body. I wouldn't ever tell my wife to abort our child, but if I get the bitch behind the counter at the QT pregnant and she my side chick, shit might be different. Either way, just because I believe some shit is wrong doesn't mean that it should be against the law.

Let's take that into account for second that making this shit illegal is not going to stop it. All you are going to do is drive the shit underground. This will remove all regulation. That means people performing these operations in places that aren't sterile. Performing abortions while not being qualified and that leads to people dying. The reason for that is people are not going to stop fucking. They are not going to stop raw dogging. That means a bunch of strays that come up pregnant. I mean whatcha gonna do!?!
 

exiledking

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That is why I believe the 40% stat is suspect. Do you think most white women having abortions go to public clinics? No, they don't want it known that they are about to abort and opt to have it done in private hospitals and by private doctors. White women have been doing it that way for decades. Unfortunately most black women do not have the economic means to end pregnancies "privately" and must resort to having it done relatively cheaply in "clinics". That being the case the total reported abortion numbers are skewed in such a way that it would appear black women abort babies much more than white women do. However, in as much as birth rates among whites have stalled the logical conclusion is they're either aborting a whole more than thought or they ain't fucking as much. :rolleyes:
Also, again, walk around the hood and see if yiu see billboards about abortion and contraception. Then go and look in other neighborhoods. There afe many ways to ck firm this for yourself.
 

exiledking

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Well, I see your argument, but I think you got me wrong a little bit. I am not in favor of abortion...right now. I think that it is a woman's choice to do that shit to her body. Let's not forget that shit is hard on a woman's body. I wouldn't ever tell my wife to abort our child, but if I get the bitch behind the counter at the QT pregnant and she my side chick, shit might be different. Either way, just because I believe some shit is wrong doesn't mean that it should be against the law.

Let's take that into account for second that making this shit illegal is not going to stop it. All you are going to do is drive the shit underground. This will remove all regulation. That means people performing these operations in places that aren't sterile. Performing abortions while not being qualified and that leads to people dying. The reason for that is people are not going to stop fucking. They are not going to stop raw dogging. That means a bunch of strays that come up pregnant. I mean whatcha gonna do!?!
I understand that. That's also why I'm for it. But those things you just mentioned are basically from the perspective of two men who might do something fucked up and the women they did it with lol. Just being honest.
 

God-Of-War-420

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Same folks that want to ban all guns want to allow women to murder in the womb
yessir left wing white cucks and their white she devils, Vegans/sjws/leftist love to preach that hippy shit and protect life and don’t eat steak lmao at the same time kill babies like it’s going out of style, gentrify neighborhoods, attack people who don’t agree with you, censor speech, but don’t you dare tell women not to kill babies and Jews not to kill Palestinians.... End rant lol
 

exiledking

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yessir left wing white cucks and their white she devils, Vegans/sjws/leftist love to preach that hippy shit and protect life and don’t eat steak lmao at the same time kill babies like it’s going out of style, gentrify neighborhoods, attack people who don’t agree with you, censor speech, but don’t you dare tell women not to kill babies and Jews not to kill Palestinians.... End rant lol
Lol. And even funnier , LATINOS are the ones who are overwhelmingly PRO LIFE. So they wanted to change the electorate - now they have a bunch of pro life "people of color" policing their bodies as they like to say
 
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Drayonis

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Bingo! Studies have even shown white women abort more. Antiabortion laws are all about protecting white lives at any cost.

That is why I believe the 40% stat is suspect. Do you think most white women having abortions go to public clinics? No, they don't want it known that they are about to abort and opt to have it done in private hospitals and by private doctors. White women have been doing it that way for decades. Unfortunately most black women do not have the economic means to end pregnancies "privately" and must resort to having it done relatively cheaply in "clinics". That being the case the total reported abortion numbers are skewed in such a way that it would appear black women abort babies much more than white women do. However, in as much as birth rates among whites have stalled the logical conclusion is they're either aborting a whole more than thought or they ain't fucking as much. :rolleyes:
 
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