Film Debate: Martin Scorsese - Marvel Movies Are Just ‘Theme Parks’ more directors weigh in UPDATE: Oliver Stone joins in

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He back on his bullsh*t....

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The old guard just don't want to let go, he is mad that he can't get the big budget money for his movie that these other movies get. He had his era this generation is different and also prefer the small screen and streaming over the big screen movie going and when they do go it's only for certain movie that they connect with. Bet he was big mad about The Barbie movie beat Oppenheimer.
 

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Gwyneth Paltrow on Superhero Movies: “Can Only Make So Many Good Ones That Feel Truly Original”​

The actress previously starred as Pepper Potts in several Marvel films, including 2008’s 'Iron Man.'

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Gwyneth Paltrow is sharing her thoughts on Hollywood’s push into superhero movies, saying, “You can only make so many good” films within that genre.

The actress made an appearance on the latest episode of Hot Ones, where host Sean Evans brought up a point Cord Jefferson made during his recent Oscar speech. While accepting his Academy Award for best adapted screenplay, the American Fiction director issued a plea for industry leaders, saying, “Instead of making one $200 million movie, try making 20 $10 million movies.”

“I absolutely understand where he’s coming from,” Paltrow said in response. “You want to have the best chance of having a strong ROI. People put a lot of money into these things and they want them to be profitable. But I think if I look at the industry as a whole, this big push into superhero movies … you can only make so many good ones that feel truly original, and yet they’re still always trying to reach as many people as possible, which sometimes hinders quality or specificity or real point of view.”

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Though Paltrow’s most well-known role was as Pepper Potts in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, initially starring opposite Robert Downey Jr. in 2008’s Iron Man, she actually rose to fame in the 1990s thanks to her roles in films such as The Talented Mr. Ripley and Shakespeare in Love, the latter of which won her an Oscar.

“I grew up doing those [mid-budget] movies and I sometimes lament the fact that I look back at some movies I made in the ’90s and think that just wouldn’t get made now,” she added. “You get more diversity of art when there is less at stake and people can, sort of, express their true voice and make a film the way they want to make it. And I think those are generally the more resonant ones.”

The actress also starred in two other standalone Iron Man movies as well as other Marvel projects, but her last appearance as Pepper Potts was in 2019’s Avengers: Endgame.

Paltrow joined a growing list of actors, including Paul Dano and Taika Waititi, who have opened up about superhero fatigue that’s hit the film industry in recent years.

Earlier this month, Dano told The Independent that he felt “quantity over quality” played a role in Marvel and DC Studios‘ box office flops in the past year.




“It’s an interesting moment where everybody has to go like, ‘OK — what now?’ Hopefully from that, somebody either breathes new life into [comic book movies], or something else blossoms which is not superheroes,” he said at the time. “I’m sure there will still be some good ones yet to come, but I think it’s kind of a welcome moment.”
The Spaceman actor continued, “It’s a larger thing, too. As soon as the word ‘content’ came into what we do — meaning making movies or TV — it meant quantity over quality, which I think was a big misstep. And I certainly don’t need that as a viewer or as an artist.”

 

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The director of The Godfather and Apocalypse Now has joined Martin Scorsese in dismissing the dominant series of superhero films.

Speaking to journalists in Lyon following his acceptance of the Prix Lumière for his contribution to cinema, Francis Ford Coppola, 80, said: “When Martin Scorsese says that the Marvel pictures are not cinema, he’s right because we expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some inspiration.”


Coppola continued: “I don’t know that anyone gets anything out of seeing the same movie over and over again. Martin was kind when he said it’s not cinema. He didn’t say it’s despicable, which I just say it is.”


to play devils advocate... coppola has the bonafides to speak on it...consider a number of his movies are iconic. AND he does have a diverse filmography. Also even tho Megalopolis looks like a budget bomb its not like a superhero flick and its not like he never makes big budget flicks.
 

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The director of The Godfather and Apocalypse Now has joined Martin Scorsese in dismissing the dominant series of superhero films.

Speaking to journalists in Lyon following his acceptance of the Prix Lumière for his contribution to cinema, Francis Ford Coppola, 80, said: “When Martin Scorsese says that the Marvel pictures are not cinema, he’s right because we expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some inspiration.”


Coppola continued: “I don’t know that anyone gets anything out of seeing the same movie over and over again. Martin was kind when he said it’s not cinema. He didn’t say it’s despicable, which I just say it is.”


to play devils advocate... coppola has the bonafides to speak on it...consider a number of his movies are iconic. AND he does have a diverse filmography. Also even tho Megalopolis looks like a budget bomb its not like a superhero flick and its not like he never makes big budget flicks.

He was hating and been doing bad ever since.

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