FLAT EARTH!!!: Yes Niggas I'm Still Here... The Re-Up... Get Yo' Popcorn...

fonzerrillii

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What flat earther fail to understand is how large in scale the earth is... Based off this picture, its easy for me to guess that if you were to show the whole planet may be around 12 feet wide...

I'm still trying to grasp the concept of how the Sun can be only 3000 miles from the Earth and we don't freeze (because its to small) or burn up (because its to big). Why aren't planes just falling out of the sky, because they are so close to the Sun? How do we even have an Ozone layer? Based on the flat earth concept, the Sun would have to be close to the Earth... to still account for the seasonal rotation. Millions of miles away wouldn't work.... We would end up with less Sun and much colder temperatures.

Are their creatures living on the underside of the Earth? If no, then why not? What would prevent life from existing on the bottom side of the earth?

Is the Earth rightside up or upside down? How do you make this distinction? If we are upside down, then what is keeping us in place?
If it's gravity, then how are we able to maintain gravity without a specific rotation. You don't just wake up and say... OH SHIT It's gravity like you are pulling a rabbit out of your hat.

Has any Flat Earther tried to dig to the other side? I mean based on this concept, that is theoretically possible. It probably wouldn't be that expensive since it would be a shorter trip. There wouldn't be a core to prevent this from happening.


I'm not throwing out facts or figures. I'm not presenting charts or videos. I'm just asking legit questions to support your theory.
 

ViCiouS

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scale sizes of our sun, planets and some moons in our solar system

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solar system in scale if the moon was the size of 1 pixel: http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html
 

RoadRage

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With out the fish eye you will only notice at best a 10 degree slope in the earth... At around 12 miles up as the video you posted the slope is around 7 degrees and in order to fit the entire earth from a normal lens, say something like a 50mm on a typical srl, you'd need a screen roughly 12 feet wide to show the whole earth..
So to show the whole planet, they have to either go out a lot further in space or introduce a wider angle lens one that will distort the picture...
 

sharkbait28

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cashwhisperer.... prove to me you're not a dragon. I won't believe any evidence you present to the contrary because it could all be faked by a crafty dragon. Them shits are magical :yes:
 

cashwhisperer

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With out the fish eye you will only notice at best a 10 degree slope in the earth... At around 12 miles up as the video you posted the slope is around 7 degrees and in order to fit the entire earth from a normal lens, say something like a 50mm on a typical srl, you'd need a screen roughly 12 feet wide to show the whole earth..
So to show the whole planet, they have to either go out a lot further in space or introduce a wider angle lens one that will distort the picture...

They do distort the picture. That's why it looks curved. I posted before and after footage already.
 

RoadRage

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REmember that video you showed is only 12 miles from earth while the space station is only 200 miles, put in to context the earth is 3,959 miles in circumference That would be like placing your eye though a looking tube a half inch over a basket ball expecting to see the whole ball, the only way to do this would be to have a wide angle lens attached to the tip of the looking glass..
 

ViCiouS

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Once again, if you can SEE the top of the table you are ABOVE the horizon.

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not above the horizon if the object is a sphere - now we're back on your deficiencies with geometry

even if the video is only half a mile above sea level -above an artificial horizon if the earth was a flat object -the light would be visible (bounced off of water ground and reflected off the sky, think fiber optics) many hours before we see the shape of the sun
 

cashwhisperer

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I'm still trying to grasp the concept of how the Sun can be only 3000 miles from the Earth and we don't freeze (because its to small) or burn up (because its to big). Why aren't planes just falling out of the sky, because they are so close to the Sun? How do we even have an Ozone layer? Based on the flat earth concept, the Sun would have to be close to the Earth... to still account for the seasonal rotation. Millions of miles away wouldn't work.... We would end up with less Sun and much colder temperatures.

Are their creatures living on the underside of the Earth? If no, then why not? What would prevent life from existing on the bottom side of the earth?

Is the Earth rightside up or upside down? How do you make this distinction? If we are upside down, then what is keeping us in place?
If it's gravity, then how are we able to maintain gravity without a specific rotation. You don't just wake up and say... OH SHIT It's gravity like you are pulling a rabbit out of your hat.

Has any Flat Earther tried to dig to the other side? I mean based on this concept, that is theoretically possible. It probably wouldn't be that expensive since it would be a shorter trip. There wouldn't be a core to prevent this from happening.


I'm not throwing out facts or figures. I'm not presenting charts or videos. I'm just asking legit questions to support your theory.

Planes go up SIX MILES above the earth. That's a LOOOOONNNNNG WAY from 3000 miles.

The deepest humans have dug into the earth is 8 miles. They got to an impenetrable point and had to stop digging.
 

fonzerrillii

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No you didn't there where mearly cymatic bubbles on the surface of the lens created by the vibrations of your heart beat... Next time smoke crack before viewing and the fequency change of heart speed will change them to unicorns and dragons...

This makes more sense then any of the stuff that I've read on the Flat Earth Society forum. I'm seriously sitting here trying my best to understand this concept and I just don't see it. There are things that I've seen on this Earth that confirm that it is round. You don't even have to use scientific concepts... Logic dictates that the world is round. It isn't even about the Idea of a flat earth, it's the principle that THERE IS NO WAY that a flat earth could have survived for this long.

For example.... The underside of the Earth would be constantly bombarded by space debris millions of times every day, because it would not have the protection of an Ozone shield. There is no way that an Ozone layer could be maintained underneath the Earth without direct sunlight. Overtime, these small to medium sized rocks would eventually chip away at the underside causing massive cracks and holes in the crust. Why don't we see random holes popping up that go to nowhere?

The only way to deny any of this... would be to also Deny the complete existence of space itself and asteroids.... Which would be hard to do... since every couple of years some people are able to see an asteroid shower. How can any this be explained?
 

cashwhisperer

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not above the horizon if the object is a sphere - now we're back on your deficiencies with geometry

even if the video is only half a mile above sea level -above an artificial horizon if the earth was a flat object -the light would be visible (bounced off of water ground and reflected off the sky, think fiber optics) many hours before we see the shape of the sun

Like I said, the higher you go the rounder it gets....supposedly.
 

cashwhisperer

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This makes more sense then any of the stuff that I've read on the Flat Earth Society forum. I'm seriously sitting here trying my best to understand this concept and I just don't see it. There are things that I've seen on this Earth that confirm that it is round. You don't even have to use scientific concepts... Logic dictates that the world is round. It isn't even about the Idea of a flat earth, it's the principle that THERE IS NO WAY that a flat earth could have survived for this long.

For example.... The underside of the Earth would be constantly bombarded by space debris millions of times every day, because it would not have the protection of an Ozone shield. There is no way that an Ozone layer could be maintained underneath the Earth without direct sunlight. Overtime, these small to medium sized rocks would eventually chip away at the underside causing massive cracks and holes in the crust. Why don't we see random holes popping up that go to nowhere?

The only way to deny any of this... would be to also Deny the complete existence of space itself and asteroids.... Which would be hard to do... since every couple of years some people are able to see an asteroid shower. How can any this be explained?

You're still assuming we're in "space".

Just like Neo assumed he was still breathing air.

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You're still making a lot of assumptions based off a ball earth model.
 
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RoadRage

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It is obviously not possible to see the entire surface of the earth as more than half of it will be on the other side. However, if you have a 17 inch diameter window, you are half way to defining a view port - and it seems to me that you are asking how far away the space ship has to be so that the earth fits inside the view port. For this we need to make an assumption about the distance of the observer to the view port.

Diagram:

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So in a 17 inch window you have to be at least half of 3,959 miles or 1979.5 miles to see the curve of the earth... Now if you were a lot closer say by the space station you'd need a wider angel lens to see the bend, something like a 12 mm... Anything closer then you'd really need a fish eye lens... There is no way possible you can see the whole earth from the space station or from where that red bull guy jumped from, so from dramatic effects fish eye lenses are used...
 

RoadRage

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They do distort the picture. That's why it looks curved. I posted before and after footage already.
What you fail to realize is how close they are to the planet and how the closer you are to a spear the less it looks round... Case and point, here is a pic of a basket ball zoomed way in..
Notice the rectangle horizon resembles the rectangle I made for the earth..
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ViCiouS

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But.... From what point of reference does this 3,000 miles even start?


This plane is 3000 miles from Sea level... Not Six miles. Technically this is 3000 miles from Earth. So they should be able to touch the Son?


you and the video mean 30,000 feet less than 6 miles
3000 miles would put you in space
 

cashwhisperer

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It is obviously not possible to see the entire surface of the earth as more than half of it will be on the other side. However, if you have a 17 inch diameter window, you are half way to defining a view port - and it seems to me that you are asking how far away the space ship has to be so that the earth fits inside the view port. For this we need to make an assumption about the distance of the observer to the view port.

Diagram:

NkqSA.png


So in a 17 inch window you have to be at least half of 3,959 miles or 1979.5 miles to see the curve of the earth... Now if you were a lot closer say by the space station you'd need a wider angel lens to see the bend, something like a 12 mm... Anything closer then you'd really need a fish eye lens... There is no way possible you can see the whole earth from the space station or from where that red bull guy jumped from, so from dramatic effects fish eye lenses are used...

So that means that EVERY piece of footage from the ISS claiming a curved earth is FALSE, based off what you just said.

:shades:
 

RoadRage

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Let me spit it out... The OP is a agent working for the feds creating a strawman argument towards and conspiracy theorist on anyone who questions mainstream media or information look stupid and ignorant..
Its noting more than an elaborate red flag operation designed to subconsciously comply to the mainstream media by making those who oppose appear ignorant and foolish..

Too bad I and those in the wise are smart enough to see through your bullshit!!!
 

cashwhisperer

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Let me spit it out... The OP is a agent working for the feds creating a strawman argument towards and conspiracy theorist on anyone who questions mainstream media or information look stupid and ignorant..
Its noting more than an elaborate red flag operation designed to subconsciously comply to the mainstream media by making those who oppose appear ignorant and foolish..

Too bad I and those in the wise are smart enough to see through your bullshit!!!

:roflmao::roflmao3::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao3::roflmao:
 

ViCiouS

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So that means that EVERY piece of footage from the ISS claiming a curved earth is FALSE, based off what you just said.

:shades:
the curve of the earth is visible to the human eye at 40k feet - so why wouldn't I be able to shoot it at 250 miles?
 

Confucius

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This fool said "WE"

So, you think thy send a rover worth billions to a planet 225 mil miles away without doing a practice run in a similar and easy to access environment on earth? You are stupid, CAC, and prolly jacking off to the comments we are feeding you, troll

This is your only form of human interaction, huh?
 

cashwhisperer

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So, you think thy send a rover worth billions to a planet 225 mil miles away without doing a practice run in a similar and easy to access environment on earth? You are stupid, CAC, and prolly jacking off to the comments we are feeding you, troll

This is your only form of human interaction, huh?

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RoadRage

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show me an image of a curved earth at 40K feet.
At 40k or 7.6 miles you should see around a 5 degree bend which is much less than the basketball that I posted, however if you were looking at it with your normal eyes (stereo vision) the degree would be much more perhaps a 10 degree bend... with a good 24 mm lens you could also get around a 10 degree bend...
 
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