Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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People saying time is an issue are nitpicking. No one can say from one episode to the next if the time is one night or several nights because the show doesn’t give you timestamps. They show you important stuff. Cut out the journey and show the arrival of the arrival is more important. This isn’t fucking 24.
Well technically jon is as much Dany family as he is Sansa
Danny's journey to Quorth
Arya in the house of black & white... (especially her punishment)
etc
you claim common sense earlier but you keep denying logic.... the early seasons of the series has endless examples of plot progression being locked into prescribed timelines
characters were left out of half a season with no appearance because of story timeline
Good stuff. I only disagree that the foundational make up of the characters has fundamentally changed. I think the chaarcters have pretty much remained true to who they were or were trending toward being.. Just the process has been manipulated and a bit rushed to meet a deadline.
Yeah. I disagree on that too... character development has been fine... to me it's pretty much solely a pacing issue.
Jaime told Tyrion that he sat in his own shit for months when he was Catelyn Starks Prisoner. That doesn’t account for his time on the road with Brienne.
consider how many episodes Jaime wasn't shown because nothing was happening with his story... he gets captured is clean shaven - next time you see him multiple episodes later he has a beard
bunch of episodes later you see him - his beard is now longer and he looks like shit
Showing on the road with Brienne was multi episode and skipped episodes, when they were captured again the story was spread over episodes and there were eps where they weren't seen but next time you see them there were details showing the passage of time
When they were ultimately freed they didn't just ride into Kings Landing the next ep
Styles P on Hot 97 discussing The lastest G.O.T Episode. The discussion starts around 6:45-18:07
Danny's journey to Quorth
Arya in the house of black & white... (especially her punishment)
etc
you claim common sense earlier but you keep denying logic.... the early seasons of the series has endless examples of plot progression being locked into prescribed timelines
characters were left out of half a season with no appearance because of story timeline
They choose when to show the passage of time IF the scenes have things of importance. Otherwise they skip. Some of you want to see time wasted just for the sake of it. There are other examples of time being shorter yet no one nitpicks because they show important events.
How the fuck no one questions Ned showing up in King’s landing in season one in a short time when it takes weeks? Because it’s stupid to question things like that.
Of course she had motivation. NK only wanted to kill her brother and everybody in Winterfell.
it took multiple eps for the trip - they left in ep 1 and arrived in ep 3 and most importantly - they advanced the passage of time for every storyline to cover weeks between those 2 eps and provided visual cues and details around the characters to reflect the passage of time
That's true I should have said she hadn't personally lost anything to the NK. She was basically only aware of his existense as a existential threat. He wasnt even on her kill list.
As i said before it didnt serve the story to have Arya eliminate him but I think now that she's had her big moment already, her role in final episode will be minimized.
She probably is reduced to assisting Clegane get revenge against his brother
They fucked up killing the Night King so early. Fucking Cersei is the final boss wtf.
Ned leaves Winterfell in season 1 episode 2.
Ned arrives in King’s Landing season 1 episode 3.
Separately just because they advance the passage of time in other stories doesn’t mean it’s always needed. It’s not done for the sake of timekeeping. It’s done for the sake of showing you relevant/important stuff.
They were not coming all the way from the Wall. The AOTD was coming from The Last Hearth, which is much closer to Winterfell than the Wall is. Check the Maps below. The Castle at Last Hearth and Winterfell are both pretty close to the Long Lake. The rest of the stuff I responded to in red above.
That’s still not two days of travel bro. Sorry. If the last hearth is half the distance. Going on the fastest route it’s still a weeks plus of travel. If they have to go the long way. It will take longer. You out here showing maps like they traveling a couple miles.They were not coming all the way from the Wall. The AOTD was coming from The Last Hearth, which is much closer to Winterfell than the Wall is. Check the Maps below. The Castle at Last Hearth and Winterfell are both pretty close to the Long Lake. The rest of the stuff I responded to in red above.
When Roose Bolton was bout to make Ramsay a Bolton he told him the north was 3-400 miles across. Same way north to south. You ain’t doing that on horseback/foot in two days. Horses ain’t machines bruh. They need to rest and recoup just like any other animal. This is just silly now bruh.
Let’s not even mention how you said Gendry and his crew are forging THOUSANDS of weapons in 48 hours. C’mon son. Not accounting for the time it took him to create Arya’s weapon from scratch. And lay the pipe. He was sleeping well. But he did it all in two days.
The whole time frame you described was weeks. Not a couple of days.
When we finally hook up im going to tell her she's going to have to wear the blonde wig
“The Characters move at the Speed which the PLOT REQUIRES.” - GRRM.
So if the plot REQUIRES them to get from Last Hearth to Winterfell in 2 days... then guess what? That’s exactly what happens.
The maps and all the explanations are only for you niggas, who question everything.
Yes, we know it was 2 days because Bran waited overnight for Jaime to arrive in episode 1... and Tormund, Ed and Beric reached Winterfell the very next day in episode 2 & told Jon that the AOTD would arrive by dawn, in episode 3.
Bran wasn’t sitting there in the same spot for several weeks.
They had a trial for Jaime. He was pardoned & he went outside & looked around Winterfell.... talked to Bran. Apologized. Then Tormund and those other guys showed up at Winterfell.
Newsflash >> Summers & Winters can last 10 years, or longer... but it’s impossible for these folks to ride from one town to the next, in a day.
Sure, I get it.“The Characters move at the Speed which the PLOT REQUIRES.” - GRRM.
Learn what this means.
It doesn’t mean that it takes WEEKS for them to travel in real-time, because the North is 700 miles wide.
It means that it’s a FANTASY tv show.
Not a documentary about Travel... Or “The Amazing Race”.
Lastly, I didn’t say Gendry and his crew. Unless you meant that ‘his crew’ are practically ALL the ‘able bodied’ citizens of Winterfell. Then yeah, we can agree on that.
Gendry lead all the ‘able bodied’ men, women and children of Winterfell to forge weapons if they were not busy digging ditches. Or chopping lumber. Or practicing sword fighting.
Everyone is getting ready for battle. Everyone. Men, women & Children alike. Ain’t nobody just sitting around.
Either you smelting some shit. Or carrying lumber on your back. Or you got a shovel in your hand, or a sword and you practicing some ‘death blows’.
A couple hundred people making arrowheads & axes and all kind of shit. Yes, they making thousands of weapons in 48 hours because it’s not Gendry plus 7 little sidekicks. Pay attention to all the activity in the background when they show Gendry. Lots of people are involved in the process of weapon making. But the guy who made FULL ARMOR for the Kingsguard, and all the weapons for the City Watch is leading their efforts.
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She may have one big final role to play. Remember the "brown eyes, blue eyes, green eyes" prophecy. I believe she'll kill Dany.
I also predict that she, along with Sansa and Jon will be the only ones left standing at the end.
It makes even less sense for Arya to kill Dany than the NK. Arya isn't playing the Game of Thrones. She's got her list to work on.
My longshot prediction: One way for Sansa to make sure that the North stands alone from the Seven Kingdoms is to take the Iron throne herself.
Arya would become a one person plague to protect or avenge Jon
“The Characters move at the Speed which the PLOT REQUIRES.” - GRRM.
So if the plot REQUIRES them to get from Last Hearth to Winterfell in 2 days... then guess what? That’s exactly what happens.
The maps and all the explanations are only for you niggas, who question everything.
Yes, we know it was 2 days because Bran waited overnight for Jaime to arrive in episode 1... and Tormund, Ed and Beric reached Winterfell the very next day in episode 2 & told Jon that the AOTD would arrive by dawn, in episode 3.
Bran wasn’t sitting there in the same spot for several weeks.
They had a trial for Jaime. He was pardoned & he went outside & looked around Winterfell.... talked to Bran. Apologized. Then Tormund and those other guys showed up at Winterfell.
Newsflash >> Summers & Winters can last 10 years, or longer... but it’s impossible for these folks to ride from one town to the next, in a day.
“The Characters move at the Speed which the PLOT REQUIRES.” - GRRM.
Learn what this means.
It doesn’t mean that it takes WEEKS for them to travel in real-time, because the North is 700 miles wide.
It means that it’s a FANTASY tv show.
Not a documentary about Travel... Or “The Amazing Race”.
Lastly, I didn’t say Gendry and his crew. Unless you meant that ‘his crew’ are practically ALL the ‘able bodied’ citizens of Winterfell. Then yeah, we can agree on that.
Gendry lead all the ‘able bodied’ men, women and children of Winterfell to forge weapons if they were not busy digging ditches. Or chopping lumber. Or practicing sword fighting.
Everyone is getting ready for battle. Everyone. Men, women & Children alike. Ain’t nobody just sitting around.
Either you smelting some shit. Or carrying lumber on your back. Or you got a shovel in your hand, or a sword and you practicing some ‘death blows’.
A couple hundred people making arrowheads & axes and all kind of shit. Yes, they making thousands of weapons in 48 hours because it’s not Gendry plus 7 little sidekicks. Pay attention to all the activity in the background when they show Gendry. Lots of people are involved in the process of weapon making. But the guy who made FULL ARMOR for the Kingsguard, and all the weapons for the City Watch is leading their efforts.
Bruh, your still not making any sense. But ok. Do you boss. Let me find out that they have the Super Mario Brothers 3 Warp Whistle in Westeros.
2 Days...smh
Every single time in the series they have show normal progression of time for travel and plot progression. But for this, everything is thrown out the window.
So the Children who made the Night King didn't know this?
Good question but it was their attempted defense strategy
Its like someone breaking into my house and I setup a barrier made from toilet paper to stop them.
One of the generals walked through a fire at Hardhome too.
The Mountain is strong but slow. Grey Worm could possibly take him with a few fatal strikes and wouldn't be wasting efforts showboating like Oberyn. Greyworm is about that action. But the fans want Cleglane bowl and writers will prob oblige since it was foreshadowed in the dragon pit last season.
He's already dead.
Fatal what? Also all he'd need to do is grab him nobody gets out of that hold but the hound MAYBE
Grayworm is lightning quick with those daggers so I don't think a headless Franken-Mountain would be much to worry about.