Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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This was a great breakdown
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Ol' Hobbs thoughts on GOT:
1. Dany should have executed Tyrion for the treasonous act of letting his captured brother Jaime go free.
2. After Tyrion's execution, Jon Snow's regicide of his Aunt/lover Dany should have been followed by Grey Worm walking into the Throne Room with the Unsullied to see Drogon flying off with Dany's body after having melted the Iron Throne. This would have mirrored Ned Stark's walking in to find Jaime standing over the Mad King's body many years before the events we have witnessed the past eight seasons occurred. Jon and Grey Worm then should have squared off in single combat, with Grey Worm killing Snow.
3. Arya and Sansa, angry over their brother/cousin's death, then should have marched south to fight Grey Worm the Unsullied, and the Dothraki. Arya should have been killed in combat, thus rendering a sense of irony that she could destroy the Night King and the Army of the Dead, only to be slain by the living.
After a Pyhrric victory by Northern forces, the remaining Lords of Westeros still could have met in the Dragon Pit and decided to end blood succession to the Iron throne by instituting a form of monarchy-Democracy.
5. Sansa, now Queen in the North, should have married Lord Gendry Baratheon, thus fulfilling King Robert Baratheon's dream of uniting his family with the Starks.
6. Looking back, I always struggled with the whole Unsullied concept in that the writings of Dr. Frances Cress Welsing always were in the back of my mind, particularly her theories about envy of African males. While a fierce fighter, Grey Worm lacked the "sack" while leading the sack of King's Landing; he should have shanked everyone in sight last night. Simply put, Grey Worm got played--period.
7. I thought the idea of the Dothraki walking around just laughing and chilling in the new King's Landing seemed off, being that they were supposed to be a nomadic group of conquerors and whatnot, not carpetbaggers looking for real estate and other business opportunities in Westeros...
8. While Bran's story was an interesting arc at times, the idea that he no longer "wanted"--only to want the Throne--made little sense to me. For the past two seasons, he told everyone he was no longer a Stark, but the Three Eyed Raven--only to seemingly yelp "Yippee" when the chance to rule was granted.
9. Patriarchal misogyny rules: That neither Dany, Sansa, Arya, Yara, or Brienne were able to ascend to the throne-- passed over for a disabled man-child in Bran the Broken, reinforces fictional patriarchy that mimics real life. That the women were at the council meeting in the Dragon Pit and did not lobby for one of them to ascend to lead the entirety of the seven kingdoms reminded me of those women who supported Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton. Yeah, I know Sansa is Queen in the North, but it would have been SO fitting that the girl who was tortured by Cersei, King Joffrey and later the Boltons, rose to rule over everyone upon the death of Dany.
Overall, I was kinda disappointed in Season 8, but I still enjoyed many parts of it all the same. The show remains one of the all time best, and while I had even moved it ahead of The Wire as my #1 fave of all time, I now return it to a strong second place finish. Season 8 is THE reason for the demotion. To be fair, I thought that the last episodes of The Wire, The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire sucked, too--but not the majority of the last seasons of those shows. Which means that series writers have to know when to fold 'em...
In hindsight, Game of Thrones should have had only a few episodes after Cersei blew up the Sept of Baelor. Dany should have headed straight to Kings Landing to beat Cersei with her three Dragons, met Jon Snow, fell all in love, and learned about the White Walkers, and then marched north with her nephew/lover to defeat the Night King. Jon still could have learned the truth about his heritage and either wed Dany, or told her the truth to retreat to "The Real North" with his boy Tormund and the Free Folk...
What say you?"
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Ol' Hobbs thoughts on GOT:
1. Dany should have executed Tyrion for the treasonous act of letting his captured brother Jaime go free.
2. After Tyrion's execution, Jon Snow's regicide of his Aunt/lover Dany should have been followed by Grey Worm walking into the Throne Room with the Unsullied to see Drogon flying off with Dany's body after having melted the Iron Throne. This would have mirrored Ned Stark's walking in to find Jaime standing over the Mad King's body many years before the events we have witnessed the past eight seasons occurred. Jon and Grey Worm then should have squared off in single combat, with Grey Worm killing Snow.
3. Arya and Sansa, angry over their brother/cousin's death, then should have marched south to fight Grey Worm the Unsullied, and the Dothraki. Arya should have been killed in combat, thus rendering a sense of irony that she could destroy the Night King and the Army of the Dead, only to be slain by the living.
After a Pyhrric victory by Northern forces, the remaining Lords of Westeros still could have met in the Dragon Pit and decided to end blood succession to the Iron throne by instituting a form of monarchy-Democracy.
5. Sansa, now Queen in the North, should have married Lord Gendry Baratheon, thus fulfilling King Robert Baratheon's dream of uniting his family with the Starks.
6. Looking back, I always struggled with the whole Unsullied concept in that the writings of Dr. Frances Cress Welsing always were in the back of my mind, particularly her theories about envy of African males. While a fierce fighter, Grey Worm lacked the "sack" while leading the sack of King's Landing; he should have shanked everyone in sight last night. Simply put, Grey Worm got played--period.
7. I thought the idea of the Dothraki walking around just laughing and chilling in the new King's Landing seemed off, being that they were supposed to be a nomadic group of conquerors and whatnot, not carpetbaggers looking for real estate and other business opportunities in Westeros...
8. While Bran's story was an interesting arc at times, the idea that he no longer "wanted"--only to want the Throne--made little sense to me. For the past two seasons, he told everyone he was no longer a Stark, but the Three Eyed Raven--only to seemingly yelp "Yippee" when the chance to rule was granted.
9. Patriarchal misogyny rules: That neither Dany, Sansa, Arya, Yara, or Brienne were able to ascend to the throne-- passed over for a disabled man-child in Bran the Broken, reinforces fictional patriarchy that mimics real life. That the women were at the council meeting in the Dragon Pit and did not lobby for one of them to ascend to lead the entirety of the seven kingdoms reminded me of those women who supported Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton. Yeah, I know Sansa is Queen in the North, but it would have been SO fitting that the girl who was tortured by Cersei, King Joffrey and later the Boltons, rose to rule over everyone upon the death of Dany.
Overall, I was kinda disappointed in Season 8, but I still enjoyed many parts of it all the same. The show remains one of the all time best, and while I had even moved it ahead of The Wire as my #1 fave of all time, I now return it to a strong second place finish. Season 8 is THE reason for the demotion. To be fair, I thought that the last episodes of The Wire, The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire sucked, too--but not the majority of the last seasons of those shows. Which means that series writers have to know when to fold 'em...
In hindsight, Game of Thrones should have had only a few episodes after Cersei blew up the Sept of Baelor. Dany should have headed straight to Kings Landing to beat Cersei with her three Dragons, met Jon Snow, fell all in love, and learned about the White Walkers, and then marched north with her nephew/lover to defeat the Night King. Jon still could have learned the truth about his heritage and either wed Dany, or told her the truth to retreat to "The Real North" with his boy Tormund and the Free Folk...
What say you?"
What wouldve been even more corny..? If Dany were to return as The Night Queen
After the end credits roll theres a scene where the camera slowly zooms in from above to Dany's corpse at wherever her and Drogon are now..pans up to her face until it takes up the shot, then.. her eyes snap open
All I know is that... now that GOT is over... My man Greyworm AKA Raleigh Ritchie... can focus on his music and continue to drop that heat...
This dude is way to big for GOT... dude is going to blow up...
This dude is way to big for GOT... dude is going to blow up...
Now maybe Sophie Turner and Nathalie Emmanuel can start getting neckid in movies...
Months after the song has been released.. My man Raleigh Ritchie is finally trending on YouTube and twitter for his music...
Which is where they are now. So there should be a war? Right????? The North is independent now. That is why I am saying it is stupid for Sana’a not to be part of the counsel and bend the knee to her brother. She is a cunt.
Go back and check what Mel said to Arya cause you got it wrong. Green eyes was LAST. It was supposed to be Cersei and they ducking changed it. No one is gonna tell me otherwise. Cersei was her target since day one. If you ain’t supposed to take it literally why did they bring it up again and change the order so blue eyes was last?
There’s a big difference in wanting to conquest someone that’s not a part of your kingdom than a part of your kingdom saying they are leaving.
And Bran doesn’t even want her to bend the knee. The only people mad aren’t even in the show lmao. Did Bran ask her to bend the knee?
If the king doesn’t want her to, why are yoh so adamant that she does?
GoT managed to make me like Dany's character... watch her become the Mad Queen and kill innocent people to make her somewhat of a "villain" in her own right in episode 5.... and then make feel like she got fucked over in episode 6 because she made a reasoned argument to Jon about why she had to do what she did and now they could rule together
They also managed to make me hate Sansa's character.... then eventually like her because she survived, wisened up , and was protecting her family... and then in episode 6 take it back in the other direction w/ her jumping in and not bending the knee to her brother solely so she could become the queen in the north.
it's like they couldn't fully commit to the character's arches... felt like season finale was just put together with complete disregard to the rest of the show
the way it ended wasn't the problem as much as how they got it there at the end. They got sloppy
Weren't Oberyn and the Sand Snakes the last of the powerful House Martell members who still held to that Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken motto.
Prince Doran Martell spent his whole life trying to show loyalty to the throne and make peace with the Lannisters. His only son was set to marry Cersie's daughter until the Sand Snakes killed all three of them. And Cersie, the Mountain, and Euron put an end to the Oberyn & the Sand Snakes.
All I'm saying is that it is within the realm of possibilities that the new unnamed prince of Dorne could have been a student of Prince Doran. So him keeping Dorne at the table would make sense.
I'll give y'all the point about Yara. The Ironborn have always been presented as not giving two shits about loyalty to the throne. So as soon as Sansa said the North was out, Yara should have been like #me_too_!!!!
They could have threw in a extra scene where Yara brings that point up and is about to dip before Bran names her Master of War as a way to keep the Ironborn at the table.
Prince Doran Martell spent his whole life trying to show loyalty to the throne and make peace with the Lannisters. His only son was set to marry Cersie's daughter until the Sand Snakes killed all three of them. And Cersie, the Mountain, and Euron put an end to the Oberyn & the Sand Snakes.
All I'm saying is that it is within the realm of possibilities that the new unnamed prince of Dorne could have been a student of Prince Doran. So him keeping Dorne at the table would make sense.
I'll give y'all the point about Yara. The Ironborn have always been presented as not giving two shits about loyalty to the throne. So as soon as Sansa said the North was out, Yara should have been like #me_too_!!!!
They could have threw in a extra scene where Yara brings that point up and is about to dip before Bran names her Master of War as a way to keep the Ironborn at the table.
Bran is really the finesse god tho, there's no way this isn't a Stark fan fiction ending, basically got all of Westeros into 3 different kingdoms all ruled by Starks with Jon ruling the North North as the new Mance Rayder, Sansa Queen of the North and Bran the 6 kingdoms in the south. I liked Sansa more when Ramsey was clapping her lemon cakes but gotta admit they gave her a dope costume, crown and throne at the end here.
Alternate ending video here
Alternate ending video here
Just came home from work. Damn near everyone had the same reaction as, a majority of people on here. One dude hated Jon snow for bitching out to Dany. And wished Drogon would have killed him. One dude hated Jon killed Dany. The overall feeling was the series finale was very disappointing.
First the Starbucks in not one - but TWO shots.
now this????
This has got to be intentional
Yep, similar to what I said earlierHistory
The nk was a stark
Again fuck the dumb crew
Yeah I’m back, so tf what
I must admit some of it was weird.
She could have been shutting the eyes of people dying by fire and smoke in Kings Landing.
