Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?

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I get you.

However, it it would have been mad weird for her to do it right after she won and immediately after Jon came to see here.... and especially after the run-in that Grey Worm and Jon had just had where he was clearly mad af.

and Jon's dagger would have been missing. Man.....no one Jon gets out of that with a "I don't know where Dany is... I'll send yall a raven if I find her... 5000 g"
Greyworm is used to Dany being wildly mercurial - again just go back to the story in Mereen

And Jon missing his dagger "My queen asked for it and I gave it to her- then she flew away"

I think the real thing would be explaining why Dany would ask drogon to melt the throne :giggle:
 

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Jon.... became Night Watch Commander. Is responsible for people knowing how to beat and ultimately kill white walkers ....Integrated Wildlings.... wins the battle of the bastards and as far as the battle field avenged the red wedding and became King in the North ... not by force but by the lords .... comes back to life oh and flies a dragon ........and had the rightful claim to the throne ..... somehow gets sent to the wall for a dude who doesn’t even claim to be human anymore to be King ... and this makes sense to y’all?

Grey Worm goes from Conan the Barbarian .. to GI Joe with the strategies. No way there shouldn’t have been at least a faceoff.

Far as the crime ? ..... hilarious. So...............they could see in the winter air a body that is fully in the grasp of a dragon that has engulfed her a knife in her heart LOL
 

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Jon.... became Night Watch Commander. Is responsible for people knowing how to beat and ultimately kill white walkers ....Integrated Wildlings.... wins the battle of the bastards and as far as the battle field avenged the red wedding and became King in the North ... not by force but by the lords .... comes back to life oh and flies a dragon ........and had the rightful claim to the throne ..... somehow gets sent to the wall for a dude who doesn’t even claim to be human anymore to be King ... and this makes sense to y’all?

Grey Worm goes from Conan the Barbarian .. to GI Joe with the strategies. No way there shouldn’t have been at least a faceoff.

Far as the crime ? ..... hilarious. So...............they could see in the winter air a body that is fully in the grasp of a dragon that has engulfed her a knife in her heart LOL

Greyworm should have immediately killed Jon.
 

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The beauty of Game of Thrones was that it was mentally exceptional. The visuals took a backseat or the exceptional writing and plots. These last 2 seasons have been visually spectacular and especially in this season have been the opposite. They replaced the substance with all flash. It’s like going from chess to connect 4
 

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Greyworm should have immediately killed Jon.
Or at least tried. Since when did grey worm give a damn about due process ?Tyrion sat for weeks until all of the others got there? Since when the Unsullied wait that long? Their queen was dead. There was no one there for them to acquiesce.
 

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Jon.... became Night Watch Commander. Is responsible for people knowing how to beat and ultimately kill white walkers ....Integrated Wildlings.... wins the battle of the bastards and as far as the battle field avenged the red wedding and became King in the North ... not by force but by the lords .... comes back to life oh and flies a dragon ........and had the rightful claim to the throne

When Tyrion was talking about who has a better story than Bran i was like..."nigga did you not witness what happened with Jon snow?"
 

veritech

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There is no Night’s Watch. :smh:
The Wildlings were manning / waiting at the Wall.

Tyrion used the excuse of the sending him to the Night’s Watch to ‘banish’ Jon from the 7 Kingdoms, to avoid another war between those who were loyal to Dany (like the Greyjoys, Dothraki & Unsullied)... and the others (like Sansa / the Starks & Lord Royce / The Vale)

The Wildlings went back North of the Wall. And Jon went with them.

“You belong in the North, Jon. The REAL North.” - Tormund

thanks, man.

so many people are not paying attention. you explained it nearly perfect but people still won't get it.
 

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I like it... but many people would still be bitching about that ending.

They would call it “SJW” fan service and complain that Arya got another ‘major character kill’. They were already steady bitching about her killing the Night King... and didn’t want to see her catch another body.... unless it was Cersei. :rolleyes:

All you would hear is... “This is some bullshit. How did Arya get past Drogon looking like Greyworm?” :hmm: “Arya is soooo overpowered.” :hmm: “Sansa should have killed her instead.” :hmm: “Tyrion should have choked her to death.” :hmm:

And a thousand other complaints. :rolleyes:

In fact upon futher thought her and Grey Worm could have had an epic battle where it look like he killed her and he could have walked in like I said looking hurt and bloody and killed her then revealed it was Arya. I feel you on the Arya thing but anyting would have been better than last night.
 

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Or they could have seen Drogon flying off carrying Dany’s limp body in his claws, instead of riding him, which she always does. (Which would indicate she was dead & implicate Jon, because he was the last person seen entering the Iron Throne where they all knew she was.)

But Personally, I didn’t need to see ‘everyone looking up in the sky’ to have it make sense for me.
Exactly.
Same thing I said with Tyrion finding Jaime and Cersei's body. We didn't need to actually see him find the bodies. Sometimes a show or movie can trust their audience enough to be able to put the pieces together.

After 8 seasons and 10 years with this show, I don't even understand how people are confused about what happened. The unsullied guards came in the room and Jon confessed to killing Dany. Then those soldiers took Jon directly to Grey Worm and the rest of the leaders who were left. Grey Worm probably wanted to kill Jon right then and there but the other leaders talked him into imprisoning Jon until they came up with a solution.

If you been watching this show since the beginning, you should know that Jon would snitch on himself and deal with whatever consequences came from it. That's just how Jon is built. It always has been.

I love it when movies and TV shows don't feel the need to hold our hands through every event. The sequence of events aren't that hard to see if you look past what you wanted to see in the end and instead focus on what the characters would most likely do in the given situation.
 
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Exactly.
Same thing I said with Tyrion finding Jaime and Cersei's body. We didn't need to actually see him find the bodies. Sometimes a show or movie can trust their audience enough to be able to put the pieces together.

After 8 seasons and 10 years with this show, I don't even understand how people are confused about what happened. The unsullied guards came in the room and Jon confessed to killing Dany. Then those soldiers took Jon directly to Grey Worm and the rest of the leaders who were left. Grey Worm probably wanted to kill Jon right then and there but the other leaders talked him into imprisoning Jon until they came up with a solution.

If you been watching this show since the beginning, you should know that Jon would snitch on himself and deal with whatever consequences came from it. That's just how Jon is built. It always has been.

I love it when movies and TV shows don't feel the need to hold our hands through ever event. The sequence of events aren't that hard to see if you look past what you wanted to see in the end and instead focus on what the characters would most likely do in the given situation.


Exactly!!!

S*** like that makes the writers look stupid. Especially on a show like this where it takes some kind of intelligence to understand.
 

veritech

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So this terrible episode basically sets up Bran to be the true bad guy of the show. He set the events into motion that caused all the problems just so he could become king. Why else would he be ensure that Jon must be told his true name. He new it would set Danny and the north at odds.

yeah, bran jumped out the window on his own to break his own back.
 

veritech

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Greyworm was cutting throats because he ‘was folllowing orders’. Like he’s been doing ever since season 2. :rolleyes:

Now with nobody ‘giving him orders’ anymore.... he has to consider ALL the consequences of his OWN actions. He has to think ‘long term’. Not ‘short term’.

Not that hard to understand. :smh:

It’s easy to kill Jon Snow & other prisoners of war when a savage-ass Dragon ‘got your back’.

Not so easy when you have to think about ALL the ramifications & how you will ‘wage war’ with no allies in the immediate area to provide supplies or reinforcements, in a few months / or weeks down the road. :rolleyes:

That exactly WHY he kept Jon alive... until he could figure out ‘what to do with him’... instead of acting off ‘rage’ alone.

thanks for continuing to spoon feed these niggas.
 

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Tic Tac Toe.

The beauty of Game of Thrones was that it was mentally exceptional. The visuals took a backseat or the exceptional writing and plots. These last 2 seasons have been visually spectacular and especially in this season have been the opposite. They replaced the substance with all flash. It’s like going from chess to connect 4
 

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To anyone else question why is there still a need for a Night's Watch, remember that their purpose wasn't just protecting Westeros against White Walkers and Wildlings. The Watch is also the main form of prison in Westeros.
So even if they do't have to guards the realms of men, they still need a place to send all the murders, rapists, and other criminals for punishment.
The Nights watch purpose was to protect the realm from the White Walkers and Wildlings. Because not many people would purposely volunteer for the job, they would start giving people the option of jail or the Nights Watch.
 

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Squired for Barristan Selmy against the Kingswood outlaws. Knighted and named to the Kingsguard in his sixteenth year for valor in the field. At the sack of King's Landing, murdered his King, Aerys, at the foot of the Iron Throne:

Pardoned by King Robert Baratheon:

Thereafter known as the Kingslayer:

After the murder of King Joffrey I by Tyrion Lannister, served under King Tommen I:



Captured in the field in the Whispering Wood:

Set free by Lady Catelyn Stark in return for an oath to find and [protect] her two daughters:

Lost his [hand.]

Took Riverrun from the Tully rebels, without loss of life.

Lured the Unsullied into ruling Casterly Rock, sacrificing his childhood home in service for a greater strategy.

Outwitted the Targaryen forces to seize Highgarden. Fought at the Battle of the Goldroad bravely, narrowly escaping death by dragonfire.

Pledged himself to the forces of men and rode north to join them at Winterfell, alone.

Faced the Army of the Dead, and defended the castle against impossible odds until the defeat of the Night King. Escaped imprisonment and rode south in an attempt to save the capital from destruction.

Died protecting his Queen.

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TENT

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The leaders were not at Kings Landing. Jon was a prisoner for weeks maybe months before the meeting of leaders happened.

Saying "people don't pay attention" or "need to be spoon feed" doesn't work. You straight making shit up. You are delusional.

Everyone on EARTH is now saying the show's writing sucks but y'all got your head in the sand.

Exactly.
Same thing I said with Tyrion finding Jaime and Cersei's body. We didn't need to actually see him find the bodies. Sometimes a show or movie can trust their audience enough to be able to put the pieces together.

After 8 seasons and 10 years with this show, I don't even understand how people are confused about what happened. The unsullied guards came in the room and Jon confessed to killing Dany. Then those soldiers took Jon directly to Grey Worm and the rest of the leaders who were left. Grey Worm probably wanted to kill Jon right then and there but the other leaders talked him into imprisoning Jon until they came up with a solution.

If you been watching this show since the beginning, you should know that Jon would snitch on himself and deal with whatever consequences came from it. That's just how Jon is built. It always has been.

I love it when movies and TV shows don't feel the need to hold our hands through ever event. The sequence of events aren't that hard to see if you look past what you wanted to see in the end and instead focus on what the characters would most likely do in the given situation.

Exactly!!!

S*** like that makes the writers look stupid. Especially on a show like this where it takes some kind of intelligence to understand.
 

Simply Sickenin'

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The Nights watch purpose was to protect the realm from the White Walkers and Wildlings. Because not many people would purposely volunteer for the job, they would start giving people the option of jail or the Nights

I get that but things have to eventually evolve. The walkers are gone and the North has made peace with the wildlings (at least for now). So now the Watch can stand for something new now. And I doubt there will be a shortage of second and third born sons who will need a place to go. Or criminals who would chose the Wall over losing a limb or some crazy shit.
 

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The leaders were not at Kings Landing. Jon was a prisoner for weeks maybe months before the meeting of leaders happened.

Saying "people don't pay attention" or "need to be spoon feed" doesn't work. You straight making shit up. You are delusional.

Everyone on EARTH is now saying the show's writing sucks but y'all got your head in the sand.
It didn't have to be all the same leaders who were in Kings Landing later. Davos was in the city. And there had to be a few Northern leaders there since Jon brought the North with him.
 

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It still doesn't make sense politically at all how things at the council went down, was the new prince of Dorne a mute? Historically, the dornish and ironborn have been about independence just as much as the North if not more, once Sansa immediately declared the North being independent, no way would Yara and that new Prince of Dorne not speak up about being independent as well if not the other Lord Paramounts of all the other regions. Without a Targaryen or Baratheon on the throne, all the kingdoms would be their own regions once again.

Fixed that for you.
 

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It didn't have to be all the same leaders who were in Kings Landing later. Davos was in the city. And there had to be a few Northern leaders there since Jon brought the North with him.

It doesn't add up. GW would have no reason to listen to Davos or any Northern leader given that Dany was killed by Jon. GW was loyal to Dany; not the north or any of its people. Next outside of the guy who got sent away GW would be the next highest ranking to make calls for Danys troops. Let's not forget the building tension between GW and Jon this season.

The only way this works is if Jon never said anything to near by guards and more or less went into protective custody before GW was informed of Danys death.
 

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The leaders were not at Kings Landing. Jon was a prisoner for weeks maybe months before the meeting of leaders happened.

Saying "people don't pay attention" or "need to be spoon feed" doesn't work. You straight making shit up. You are delusional.

Everyone on EARTH is now saying the show's writing sucks but y'all got your head in the sand.

My problem with that is if they had let Daenerys get the throne, 75% of the bad writing crowd would be saying how that same writing was amazing
 

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Go back and check out the episode when Joffery dies, the camera pans to Olenna. They give you clues it was her and if Im not mistaken, in the next episode she is talking to Little finger about the conspiracy, so you do know she plays a part.

Still rewatching season three but noted for when I reach four.
 
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