i shouldn't have watched it... damn my curiousity... that shit was/is disturbing fam
Graphic - Nigerian thieves burned
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i shouldn't have watched it... damn my curiousity... that shit was/is disturbing fam
It's a MASTERBAKER post... you know it's coming before entering
I appreciate your posts, alot. I see that you have your head on your shoulders and are usually progressive in your opinions and ideas. And I also agree that this is not how justice should be carried out.
But speaking as a Nigerian, born in Nigeria but raised in the US and having served in the USMC for 6 years, and have had the oppurtunity to travel and see the world, I don't believe that we people outside in the "civilized world" have the right to praise a country for its differences but condemn it for our differences in how they choose to govern themselves. What we can do is to open dialogue and build/form relationships with them that helps them to progress without trying to forcefully mold them in our image. I don't think that we can do that by being judgmental.
I'm actually not THAT progressive though I do hold some progressive viewpoints depending on the circumstances. I'm really more of a classical libertarian.
The same shit has happened in the U.S. It's wrong here as well. We have a history where blacks were hanged and burned here as well. I don't believe in "moral relativism".
This has really nothing to with forcing a culture to change completely or molding them in our image. Nothing has been said in terms of making them more like the U.S.(at least not from me). The shit is just plain wrong man. You can't condone mob, street justice like that if there are respect of basic axioms of individual rights. What happens when it gets turn on "you" and you are innocent.
This isn't "governing". This is no semblance of a judiciary system.
Being from the country in question, you have a way better understanding of things there, but I'm not one to make unbridled criticisms of other cultures because I've almost spent a lot of my life abroad living on other country...traveled all over the world..and not for working..just to be exposed to other cultures...but there are basic things that are universal, basic human rights, individual rights.. that aren't geographic or cultural issues.. they are basic human issues regardless of location...
This is not a statement on Nigeria or Nigerian people.. it's about these individuals that do this type of shit... them happening to be from Nigeria is really a moot point from me..it could have been France and I would be saying the same shit..
Damn! I remember the War Against Indiscipline. At the time Buhari was the president and Samuel Ogbemudia was the governor of what was then Bendel State. There was mandatory cleaning every weekend, "essential commodities" could not be hoarded and crime was low. IBB overthew Buhari two years later and it was downhill from there.
I could say "I even understand" if it was a rape or murder. Although i think this type of justice is just not the "proper course".. but if you can't get justice with the judiciary system, i could even say that I understood.
But this type of shit for "thievery", especially if it was "penis thievery (some voodoo shit"... madness
SureShot, I get where you're going with this but having lived in Nigeria myself you must agree that this shit is barbaric. If there was a functioning justice system where there was due process and an educated populace this type of things would not be so common place.
I can see your point.
My initial concern was and still is to those that aren't as cultured or exposed as you (or I) and may very well leave this thread thinking that this is an African, Nigerian, cultural issue, and not one of simple human decency and appreciation for life.
Yep. I hate when people do that shit... people have all kind of false assumptions about Africa in general..that's for another discussion.. but I get what you are saying...and I've only visited a couple of countries in Africa... you cats that are from African countries must really get annoyed by it..
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^^^Dude, before you start getting all moral and shit about the so-called "barbarism" of Nigeria try to bear in mind that Guantanamo Bay was not conceptualized by any Nigerians.
You know fuck all about the reality of crime in Nigeria so please try to avoid generalizing.
In Nigeria, armed robbers dont step to Banks or financial institutions, they roll up on private residences and rob families at gun/machete point.
They tend to rape any females present in the homes in front of their male relatives and just straight desecrate and humiliate their victims.
So yeah, the lynching scenes may seem outrageous to you but if your Mom's, sisters, female cousins or aunts had an armed gang running train on them (God forbid) you'd be pouring that gasolene on with a quickness your damn self.
C/S - if they deserve it...they got what they deserve - we need some shit like that in the USA.
Damn right!!!
About 6 years ago, I followed my youngest sister to school for their cultural day, she was in middle school at the time. It was my mother, my sister and myself all dressed in traditional attire. After her presentation the TEACHER asked said to my mother "I hear that the winds are very strong in Africa, how do you keep your huts from being blown over and what do you do about wild animals". My mother looked at me and then looked at her and as best she could, while containing her anger explained that we don't live in mud huts and we don't have daily wrestling matches with lions and gorillas. As I said, this is the steward of young minds in a middle school that is this lost. I use this one instance as an example however there are countless others that are even worse. To say the least its appalling.
Anyone defending this "action" is a moron. I dont give a fuck about criminals, but how do you know they are. And even if they were, dont they deserve their day in court. Personally, I could never douse another human being with gasoline and set him on fire, unless it was in direct defense of my life. The scene in that video must have taken a while, where was the fucking police. where?
Like is said in an earlier post this is barbaric and indefensible. The question should be how can another human being pour kerosene (there's always plenty of kerosene availble in Nigeria becauase of the erratic power supply) on a burning human being. Life in Nigeria can be "nasty, brutish and short".
There are no "police" in that community. This type of things happens in Nigeria more that you would imagine. I'm not trying to besmirch the the image of the country but it is what it is.
Are you serious man? This HAD to be in the U.S.. I find that only Americans say stupid shit like this...Americans tend to be the most geographically and culturally ignorant people on the planet in my experieneI have a friend here in Brasil who studied in the U.S... he said he was at a college in the U.S....and people were asking him did he have a house in a tree in the Amazon??? like Brasil was all on some Tarzan shit
and this is at a university where people are supposed to be "educated"
And we have the audacity to call white people barbaric...
Really Agba??
Come on, lets be honest here. Does it happen, yes, the video is testament to that but how often it happens is up for debate. Its not like you can travel from Ese to the Delta and all you see are people getting burned. People stay in line for this VERY reason cause once one person says "Ole, Ole" (thief in Yoruba) its curtains. And no one wants to be a victim. Lets not over exaggerate.
No u GTFOH. How long you gonna argue that this shit is comparable to US capital punishment? Man,I'd rather be on death row for 8 years fighting my case than to be drug in the street and melted alive in 10 min
SureShot, I agree in that you aren't going to see human barbeque from ESE to the Delta or Lagos to Benin but depending on the time you leave you have a very high chance of getting waylayed and robbed. You have to agree. I was there last November and the police didn't inspire confidence. We left Abuja and were traveling to Akoko-Edo and the police at the checkpoint were trying to shake us down. The trick was to not come to a full stop but to look at them and coast through. REAL TALK! Back to the jungle justice - it happens more that it should. Do you remember the Bakassi Boys and the shit they used to do?
True. It is common knoledge that if you are caught stealing, the following could happe.
1. Firestone (old tires and gasoline put over you, and a match is lit)
2. Bonvita/Ovaltine (Cement mix poured down your throat and you are free to go.
3. Stoning
4. Drowning
5. Vaginal insertions (for females)
6. Tied to the bus and run. (the longer you run the longer you live)
7.Sodomy (penal and anal)
8. Cutlass buthchering
9. Common sense (thick nail hammered into top of head)
10. Slave trade (basic hanging)
at clowns trying to compare this to shit in the US.....
fucking idiots
If a mofo shoots you in the head or burns yo ass wit gasoline in NYC or La......does that make it less painful or your ass less dead than if it happened in Lagos....GTFOH if you think it does!!
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^^^Dude, before you start getting all moral and shit about the so-called "barbarism" of Nigeria try to bear in mind that Guantanamo Bay was not conceptualized by any Nigerians.
You know fuck all about the reality of crime in Nigeria so please try to avoid generalizing.
In Nigeria, armed robbers dont step to Banks or financial institutions, they roll up on private residences and rob families at gun/machete point.
They tend to rape any females present in the homes in front of their male relatives and just straight desecrate and humiliate their victims.
So yeah, the lynching scenes may seem outrageous to you but if your Mom's, sisters, female cousins or aunts had an armed gang running train on them (God forbid) you'd be pouring that gasolene on with a quickness your damn self.
Couldn't have said it better. Good job explaining it.
It's a MASTERBAKER post... you know it's coming before entering
this is worse
http://forum.uncoverreality.com/audio-video/53113-dagestan-massacre-fate-6-russian-soldiers.html
warning very graphic
im still fucked up from this video ^
Damn!
WTF!
and just when the nigga burnt out, they poured more gas on him.
Prolly rapists/armed robbers
naw they probably scammed the wrong mufucka.
Damn. Even if they had a choice, all the choices are a really shitty way to go.
