Hidden History: Slave breeding in the United States

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Damn man...:smh:

Family, we get pissed when cops can shoot us in the back and don't even go to trial but this is in a nation where the Casual Killing Act was law.

We look at the brutality we face today and the brutality of the Civil Rights Era but we have to understand that it pales in comparison to the violence and brutality our ancestors faced when they could do that shit with absolute impunity.
 

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If we freed turkeys or chickens. after years of our intervention in their reproduction process, very few would survive in the wild. Natural selection would bring them back into equilibrium with the environment whereby the best adapted traits would dominate.

We are going through the same process.
 

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If we freed turkeys or chickens. after years of our intervention in their reproduction process, very few would survive in the wild. Natural selection would bring them back into equilibrium with the environment whereby the best adapted traits would dominate.

We are going through the same process.

we are not lower animals like chickens and turkeys. It doesn't work like that.
 

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They realize years later they fucked up because they never envisioned that the slaves were going to be free one day. What they actually did was created super humans and we as black people still don't realize it. Only the strongest mentally and physically made it to the Americas. Then you take those who did and breed them like thoroughbred horses in an attempt to produce an even a stronger slave.

How the shit went down is totally fucked up but is done and we need to use it to our advantage mentally first and physically second. Get off the drugs and bad foods and the outcome would grow exponentially.
I agree with a lot of this, but I believe that only the strongest physically made it to the Americas, not the strongest mentally. The mind doesn't have to be strong for the body to work. The body will work with him and almost beat too mush, and that happened a lot back in those days. However if the party was physically broken down it was not able to work, so the slaves who made it to the Americas were physically capable.

All of the slave breeding, the Mandingo, that was done without even the thought of us possibly being free one day. The problem is still the mentality that large families are okay when the concept and the reality don't even out.

I see you black women with three and more kids and they don't even make $25,000 a year. That's not functioning, that's scraping by. Basic needs aren't even met. Attention to the child isn't met. The kids often go without education until they reach School, which must be hell on preschool, kindergarten, And first grade teachers. These kids can hold yuh lyrics to Lil Wayne and Young Thug songs but can't count to 10, or do their alphabet from A to Z.

I agree we do need to use our advantages, mostly by the way they take us so lightly and they put one of us against another at every opportunity. How many times have you been snitched on by another black person while at work? We are raised to believe complete falsehoods, like black people do bad work, so it's okay to go with a white business. We have to get some serious shampoo to undo the brainwashing before we can move forward
 
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We as blacks hate to admit it because of the history of slavery but genetically we where given a boost. Slavery itself is inhumane and a stain on white people's souls but by being the biggest, smartest and strongest what remains is simply that. Biggest, strongest and smartest.

The United snakes of America has went out of its way to keep us from unifying with Africa. Because we have the"missing link" to destroying the system of racism white supremacy. We are the manifestation of what the Germans where trying to push. The master race via genetic manipulation. Unfortunately we are still fucked up mentally because of the systemic mind fuck. Once we get our minds right we will be the catalyst for African resurgence.
 
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geechiedan

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We as blacks hate to admit it because of the history of slavery but genetically we where given a boost. Slavery itself is inhumane and a stain on white people's souls but by being the biggest, smartest and strongest what remains is simply that. Biggest, strongest and smartest.

The United snakes of America has went out of its way to keep us from unifying with Africa. Because we have the"missing link" to destroying the system of racism white supremacy. We are the manifestation of what the Germans where trying to push. The master race via genetic manipulation. Unfortunately we are still fucked up mentally because of the systemic mind fuck. Once we get our minds right we will be the catalyst for African resurgence.

slave breeding may have happened but that whole connection to sports excellence is bullshit and an insult. Two healthy people getting together will produce a....healthy child thats about all.

If it were that simple then other civilizations long ago would have been doing it to raise super soldiers or brilliant scientists. Going back the egyptians, phoenicians hell the sumarians would have figured that shit out...they can create structures that would last centuries yet not come up with a way to breed a better human being?? Shit the nazis were actively trying to create a perfect race at no point did they say lets just breed big strapping Hans to big strapping Olga. So to say that some rednecks in south carolina were able to achieve thru basic animal husbandry what brilliant scientific people before and after them couldn't do is just ridiculous.

but lets reverse it..if forced slave breeding is responsible for elite black athletes today..
whats responsible for elite white athletes??
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what forced manipulation process did Michael Phelps ancestors have to endure for him to win 7 gold medals??? AND this nigga's a pot head...

White athletic excellence = hard work and genetic luck of the draw

Black athletic excellence = slave breeding because

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these assholes great grand parents made it happen. :hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:

this is what we're talking about??:hmm::hmm:

actually white supremacists make the claim that because of breeding and genetics blacks have lower IQs than whites and asians...do you REALLY want to cosign that bullshit...thats the main problem with breeding..you can use it to justify positives and negatives depending on how you want to spin it.
 

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mfs can deny it all you want...they done us like they done horses... they breed is for specific work with certain sized women. like one poster said they had no clue they was creating super humans.

a 6'6 male athlete have a child with a 6'1 female athlete would result in the first phase of generational athletes...it would change sports forever. think about in the year 2074 sports contracts will factor in athletic family history and if both parents played at the professional level you automatically get more money than just one parent playing. Trust me that is about to be put in place within the next 50 years

which brings me up to this point....you know the wealthy was doing it on a level we have no clue about and they kept records of theirs......think about that
 

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You fighting so hard to make it an insult lol its not.

Intelligent people get together strong people get together genetically people get together and create what we are now geech.

The reason these other places you want to ask about didn't accomplish it is because they weren't fucking slaves lol.

They couldn't be forced like a slave could.

Denying the strong genetics is real suspect on your part.

Highly suspect
 

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This is the root of "baby mamas" and "baby daddies" as well.
no it isn't... every race has always had a significant number of illegitimate birth and single mothers...

but for the last 40 years media promotes this as a "black" thing...

fuck them
 

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slave breeding may have happened but that whole connection to sports excellence is bullshit and an insult. Two healthy people getting together will produce a....healthy child thats about all.

If it were that simple then other civilizations long ago would have been doing it to raise super soldiers or brilliant scientists. Going back the egyptians, phoenicians hell the sumarians would have figured that shit out...they can create structures that would last centuries yet not come up with a way to breed a better human being?? Shit the nazis were actively trying to create a perfect race at no point did they say lets just breed big strapping Hans to big strapping Olga. So to say that some rednecks in south carolina were able to achieve thru basic animal husbandry what brilliant scientific people before and after them couldn't do is just ridiculous.

but lets reverse it..if forced slave breeding is responsible for elite black athletes today..
whats responsible for elite white athletes??
17u1l1a1s8b5rjpg.jpg


what forced manipulation process did Michael Phelps ancestors have to endure for him to win 7 gold medals??? AND this nigga's a pot head...

White athletic excellence = hard work and genetic luck of the draw

Black athletic excellence = slave breeding because

Redneck-Sensitive.jpg

these assholes great grand parents made it happen. :hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:

this is what we're talking about??:hmm::hmm:

actually white supremacists make the claim that because of breeding and genetics blacks have lower IQs than whites and asians...do you REALLY want to cosign that bullshit...thats the main problem with breeding..you can use it to justify positives and negatives depending on how you want to spin it.
statistically- he is a genetic freak... but IMO any project you go to has at least 10 kids that would whip his ass if given the same training and development he received
any white athlete that competes at our level or better is a genetic freak....

Our genetic freaks are Lebron or Bo Jackson... most of the rest of our athletes are just a bit outside the norm and many times the difference between pro and "almost was" and couch potato is mental and how much they worked and bleed for it

what "they" spend millions to hide:
Understand brother - WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM - in every measurable way!!!!
dense bones and ligaments, faster muscle regeneration and recuperation,
google "Fast twitch muscles african americans"
they limit the explanation to why we excel at running and jumping, but it goes deeper than that...
not only do we heal faster studies show our immune systems are more efficient
even with the poor nutrition and medical care in the hoods we still develop muscle and bone with higher density than any other race...
we are almost preternaturally intelligent - studies show that nutrition directly impacts a child's ability to learn, but on average even with poor nutrition, when taught at the same level as the privileged our kids still excelled while the dirt poor whites failed to compete.
 

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From a economic view it probably was cheaper to buy slaves than breed them, the slave woman would be pregnant for 9 month, then you have to wait until the kid is old or strong enough to work the fields, that's going to take a couple years of feeding the kid and mother with nothing in return.
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you have no idea...

the same way they used every part of the chicken pig cow to maximize profit and use is the same with slaves
a strong pregnant slave can work almost until its time to drop the kid, many did work until they pushed the kid out and was back at work within 48 hours... even worse a new mother is also now a wet nurse for masters kids or hired out as needed

Children were put to work as early as 3 or 4 yrs old to perform minor chores or assist with more difficult ones or work as water carriers in the field / messengers AND be playmates for young white kids
 

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how are you guys feeding into that bullshit. yes breeding shacks existed and yes there was alot of raping going on but anyone who believes that theory (and it is a theory) is a damn fool.

If it were that simple then other civilizations long ago would have been doing it to raise super soldiers or brilliant scientists. Going back the egyptians, phoenicians hell the sumarians would have figured that shit out...they can create structures that would last centuries yet not come up with a way to breed a better human being?? Shit the nazis were actively trying to create a perfect race at no point did they lets just breed big strapping Hans to big strapping Olga. So to say that some rednecks in south carolina were able to achieve thru basic animal husbandry what brilliant scientific people before and after them couldn't do is just ridiculous.

OKay..lets for a second go with the slave breeding theory..

since most african americans have at least a quarter of european blood in their background (most africa americans are not all african) could it be that the (forced) introduction and combination of african and european gene traits are responsible for achievements of blacks in certain sports?

Would lebron james be comfortable with the idea that a white slave owner RAPING his great great grandmother is the basis for reason he has two NBA championship rings???

Any takers??
you fail to realize the type of slavery in North America never existed before... many have said that it improved on the efficency of previous forms of slavery in many ways
in the civilizations you mentioned it was inconceivable to breed slaves as many slaves bought their own freedom or their children's freedom or in certain societies slavery was not hereditary
 

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you fail to realize the type of slavery in North America never existed before... many have said that it improved on the efficency of previous forms of slavery in many ways
in the civilizations you mentioned it was inconceivable to breed slaves as many slaves bought their own freedom or their children's freedom or in certain societies slavery was not hereditary
Before the slave trade the British empire was fucking over Europe with their own kind of slavery, for eg. The Scottish got it as bad as African slaves, they were whipped, raped, hung and burn if they didn't pay their forced on taxes from the British.
 

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Before the slave trade the British empire was fucking over Europe with their own kind of slavery, for eg. The Scottish got it as bad as African slaves, they were whipped, raped, hung and burn if they didn't pay their forced on taxes from the British.
don't ever say that bs to a black man again... only the ignorant type some shit like that
the British got in the chinese indian irish and scottish... true but never did they ever do what they did in North America...

Did the Brittish outlaw their religions and culture?
did they kill large numbers of them for speaking native languages
and wipe out their heritage wholesale?

ok... remember what board you are on

the fact that the Scotts paid unfair taxes meant they had property, and you want to compare that to the slave trade and North American Slavery? that shit doesn't come close to what the brits did to native americans never mind us
 

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don't ever say that bs to a black man again... only the ignorant type some shit like that
the British got in the chinese indian irish and scottish... true but never did they ever do what they did in North America...

Did the Brittish outlaw their religions and culture?
did they kill large numbers of them for speaking native languages
and wipe out their heritage wholesale?

ok... remember what board you are on
Yes they did, the British was fucking over people for much longer than the 400 years of slavery, they forced their religion and language all over the world, and yes there were white slaves as well who got the same treatment before they started to use Africans
 

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From a economic view it probably was cheaper to buy slaves than breed them, the slave woman would be pregnant for 9 month, then you have to wait until the kid is old or strong enough to work the fields, that's going to take a couple years of feeding the kid and mother with nothing in return.

Slaves worked as children, you think they had child labor laws ? Lol

Breeding slaves built generatioanl wealth. You had 2 slaves now your hiers have 15.
 

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Yes they did, the British was fucking over people for much longer than the 400 years of slavery, they forced their religion and language all over the world
what languages do Indians speak?
what languages do Chinese speak - in Hong Kong? in Singapore?
is galic still spoken in Ireland?

you need to learn European history - cause you are coming off unusually ignorant
Henry V
Henry VIII
Elizabeth I

google the above and then get into
Irish Anglo wars
scottish anglo wars
 

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Thanks evil cacs..for the nba, nfl and epl greatness...doesn't take many generations to see results when breeding for desired characteristics...

 

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what languages do Indians speak?
what languages do Chinese speak - in Hong Kong? in Singapore?
is galic still spoken in Ireland?

you need to learn European history - cause you are coming off unusually ignorant
Henry V
Henry VIII
Elizabeth I

google the above and then get into
Irish Anglo wars
scottish anglo wars
People in Africa still speak their own languages so what's your point? You bringing up Ireland and Scotland like they had it easier, if you think they did I suggest you read a history book because coming off ignorant. The only difference between them and Africa is that they eventually fought back for their independence.
 

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People in Africa still speak their own languages so what's your point? You bringing up Ireland and Scotland like they had it easier, if you think they did I suggest you read a history book because coming off ignorant.
the british are fucked up
but you were ignorant as fuck to say the Brits forced their religion on the Irish and Scotts - the Romans did that centuries earlier
As for any indentured servants from China India Scott or Irish were they barred from practicing their religion when they came to North and South America?)
did the brits practice biological warfare (smallpox) in either country?
did they outlaw educating any of the above nationalities?
did they outlaw property ownership for above nationalities?
did they kidnap and enslave in perpetuity any of the above nationalities and their descendants? (don't tell me any horseshit about indentured servitude)
did they commit genocide on any of the nationalities? if yes (what was the mortality rates? occupation and wars vs the slave trade?)
Did the Brits put Irish or Scotts in pit fights against bears dogs wolves and each other?
 

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People in Africa still speak their own languages so what's your point? You bringing up Ireland and Scotland like they had it easier, if you think they did I suggest you read a history book because coming off ignorant. The only difference between them and Africa is that they eventually fought back for their independence.
you poor brainwashed fool... you have no idea what was done in slavery to your ancestors, and you have no clue about the details of European history if you can conceive the thought that British were as brutal with their neighbors as they were to the asians or that either come close to what they did during the slave trade...
You probably think all the horrific stories told were just anansi tales told to scare children, Django Unchained must have been fantasy (when in fact it barely scratched the surface)

btw - Scottland nor Ireland never got "independent" hence the name United Kingdom - and S.Ireland is really a vassel state
 

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thats luck of the draw more than result of breeding.
you dont understand genetics...
blacks genetically have more fast twitch muscle fibras than any race

https://www.nytimes.com/books/00/04/16/reviews/000416.16holtlt.html

http://run-down.com/guests/je_black_athletes_p2.php

In a subsequent study Saltin brought several groups of Kenyans to the Karolinska labs in Sweden, where he was then working. Muscle-fiber distribution was similar for the Kenyans and Swedes. But biopsies of the quadricep muscles in the thighs indicated that the Kenyans had more blood-carrying capillaries surrounding the muscle fibers and more mitochondria within the fibers. That's important because mitochondria act a little like power stations, processing the glucose with oxygen brought in by breathing into energy. The Kenyans also were found to have relatively smaller muscle fibers than the Swedes, which Saltin speculated might serve to bring the mitochondria closer to the surrounding capillaries. This process aids in oxidation, bringing more "fuel" to the mitochondria, the engine of the muscles.
 

geechiedan

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mfs can deny it all you want...they done us like they done horses... they breed is for specific work with certain sized women. like one poster said they had no clue they was creating super humans.

a 6'6 male athlete have a child with a 6'1 female athlete would result in the first phase of generational athletes...it would change sports forever. think about in the year 2074 sports contracts will factor in athletic family history and if both parents played at the professional level you automatically get more money than just one parent playing. Trust me that is about to be put in place within the next 50 years

which brings me up to this point....you know the wealthy was doing it on a level we have no clue about and they kept records of theirs......think about that

You fighting so hard to make it an insult lol its not.

Intelligent people get together strong people get together genetically people get together and create what we are now geech.

The reason these other places you want to ask about didn't accomplish it is because they weren't fucking slaves lol.

They couldn't be forced like a slave could.

Denying the strong genetics is real suspect on your part.

Highly suspect

no it isn't... every race has always had a significant number of illegitimate birth and single mothers...

but for the last 40 years media promotes this as a "black" thing...

fuck them

statistically- he is a genetic freak... but IMO any project you go to has at least 10 kids that would whip his ass if given the same training and development he received
any white athlete that competes at our level or better is a genetic freak....

Our genetic freaks are Lebron or Bo Jackson... most of the rest of our athletes are just a bit outside the norm and many times the difference between pro and "almost was" and couch potato is mental and how much they worked and bleed for it

what "they" spend millions to hide:
Understand brother - WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM - in every measurable way!!!!
dense bones and ligaments, faster muscle regeneration and recuperation,
google "Fast twitch muscles african americans"
they limit the explanation to why we excel at running and jumping, but it goes deeper than that...
not only do we heal faster studies show our immune systems are more efficient
even with the poor nutrition and medical care in the hoods we still develop muscle and bone with higher density than any other race...
we are almost preternaturally intelligent - studies show that nutrition directly impacts a child's ability to learn, but on average even with poor nutrition, when taught at the same level as the privileged our kids still excelled while the dirt poor whites failed to compete.

you fail to realize the type of slavery in North America never existed before... many have said that it improved on the efficency of previous forms of slavery in many ways
in the civilizations you mentioned it was inconceivable to breed slaves as many slaves bought their own freedom or their children's freedom or in certain societies slavery was not hereditary

If forced breeding happened it was to produce more people on the mainland rather than have to keep importing slaves. You guys are talking about active genetic manipulation as if these guys....

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understood something no one else in the history of humans walking the planet didn't. You are giving cacs waay too much fuckin credit and power.

And if you guys think that chattel slavery and forcing human beings to do shit against their will didn't exist to that degree before the atlantic slave trade says you know little of human history. There is nothing new under the sun. Again the chinese...the fuckin incas and aztecs (particularly brutal civilizations mind you) how about south africa and the zulus..shaka practiced mfecane (the crushing) but forced breeding never occurred to them? Thats naive.
 

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you dont understand genetics...
blacks genetically have more fast twitch muscle fibras than any race

https://www.nytimes.com/books/00/04/16/reviews/000416.16holtlt.html

http://run-down.com/guests/je_black_athletes_p2.php

In a subsequent study Saltin brought several groups of Kenyans to the Karolinska labs in Sweden, where he was then working. Muscle-fiber distribution was similar for the Kenyans and Swedes. But biopsies of the quadricep muscles in the thighs indicated that the Kenyans had more blood-carrying capillaries surrounding the muscle fibers and more mitochondria within the fibers. That's important because mitochondria act a little like power stations, processing the glucose with oxygen brought in by breathing into energy. The Kenyans also were found to have relatively smaller muscle fibers than the Swedes, which Saltin speculated might serve to bring the mitochondria closer to the surrounding capillaries. This process aids in oxidation, bringing more "fuel" to the mitochondria, the engine of the muscles.
if thats true thats from AFRICA not south carolina where zeke and clem decided to make that happen.
 

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We as blacks hate to admit it because of the history of slavery but genetically we where given a boost. Unfortunately we are still fucked up mentally because of the systemic mind fuck. Once we get our minds right we will be the catalyst for African resurgence.

Working on something big for the black community. Stay tuned. It's taking a little bit longer than I expected, but the logic is sound. I'm The Spook that sat by the door and my knowledge of supply, supply organization and supply chains will be the difference
 

ViCiouS

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If forced breeding happened it was to produce more people on the mainland rather than have to keep importing slaves. You guys are talking about active genetic manipulation as if these guys....

Redneck-Sensitive.jpg


understood something no one else in the history of humans walking the planet didn't. You are giving cacs waay too much fuckin credit and power.

And if you guys think that chattel slavery and forcing human beings to do shit against their will didn't exist to that degree before the atlantic slave trade says you know little of human history. There is nothing new under the sun. Again the chinese...the fuckin incas and aztecs (particularly brutal civilizations mind you) how about south africa and the zulus..shaka practiced mfecane (the crushing) but forced breeding never occurred to them? Thats naive.
you are woefully uneducated on history of slavery and human civilizations- every culture in Asia Europe Africa and Native American, before the NA american slavery allowed slaves to buy their freedom or buy their kids freedom, a few cultures even put a time limit a person could be held as a slave (rare) - true, an owner could kill a slave without repercussion or question and there were many abuses, but generational slavery was very rare especially when it was difficult to see an obvious difference between slave and owner....
Educate yourself on this and then apply logic: With rare generational slaves why would they do forced breeding? It was counter productive and in some societies it would have been idiotic- since in the most repressive societies slave revolts were common and bloody... for example the most uncommon thing about Spartacus' revolt was how close they came to sacking Rome... THEN the fact they had a perfect storm of military veterans and highly skilled warriors leading the revolt... other than those things Rome was accustomed to dealing with uprisings, (side note: at the time the only thing they couldn't deal with was the mob of unemployed Romans)

yes -importing slaves kept getting more risky hence more expensive because of the Spanish navy, French navy (prerevolution), privateers, and pirates... long before importation was outlawed

As to the knowledge- any idiot paying attention during dog and horse breeding would see the patterns... they were already manipulating / breeding the type of cotton and tobacco plants for easier harvesting and increased yield, so after one or 2 generations of slaves reproducing it was a no brainer that they could efficiently breed heartier stock that had an added benefit that they can mentally break offspring from childhood...
Just like racehorse breeding they kept records on offspring from high functioning slaves.
Everything from how many acres they were able to plant in a day and how many lbs of x they harvested in a day to proficiency, learning ability, and efficiency of skilled tradesmen (blacksmith tanner carpenter mason etc)... they allowed the slaves to marry but still forced mating with chosen slaves to breed whatever talents they desired or would be more profitable for sale.

Additionally it seems you want to- worst case ignore, best case discount, the stories many slaves told of what they experienced and /or saw first hand about forced breeding, arranged marriages, and incentives of reduced labor etc given to strong fertile male slaves and fertile female slaves to mate
 

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you are woefully uneducated on history of slavery and human civilizations- every culture in Asia Europe Africa and Native American, before the NA american slavery allowed slaves to buy their freedom or buy their kids freedom, a few cultures even put a time limit a person could be held as a slave (rare) - true, an owner could kill a slave without repercussion or question and there were many abuses, but generational slavery was very rare especially when it was difficult to see an obvious difference between slave and owner....
Educate yourself on this and then apply logic: With rare generational slaves why would they do forced breeding? It was counter productive and in some societies it would have been idiotic- since in the most repressive societies slave revolts were common and bloody... for example the most uncommon thing about Spartacus' revolt was how close they came to sacking Rome... THEN the fact they had a perfect storm of military veterans and highly skilled warriors leading the revolt... other than those things Rome was accustomed to dealing with uprisings, (side note: at the time the only thing they couldn't deal with was the mob of unemployed Romans)

yes -importing slaves kept getting more risky hence more expensive because of the Spanish navy, French navy (prerevolution), privateers, and pirates... long before importation was outlawed

As to the knowledge- any idiot paying attention during dog and horse breeding would see the patterns... they were already manipulating / breeding the type of cotton and tobacco plants for easier harvesting and increased yield, so after one or 2 generations of slaves reproducing it was a no brainer that they could efficiently breed heartier stock that had an added benefit that they can mentally break offspring from childhood...
Just like racehorse breeding they kept records on offspring from high functioning slaves.
Everything from how many acres they were able to plant in a day and how many lbs of x they harvested in a day to proficiency, learning ability, and efficiency of skilled tradesmen (blacksmith tanner carpenter mason etc)... they allowed the slaves to marry but still forced mating with chosen slaves to breed whatever talents they desired or would be more profitable for sale.

Additionally it seems you want to- worst case ignore, best case discount, the stories many slaves told of what they experienced and /or saw first hand about forced breeding, arranged marriages, and incentives of reduced labor etc given to strong fertile male slaves and fertile female slaves to mate

you guys seem to want to ignore the fact that most if not nearly all american blacks aren't 100% african to begin with. Sure there was a lot of breeding with female slaves but it wasn't 100% of the time with other black slaves.

Rather, it turns out that black people in this country are surprisingly "white," meaning that our genomes are composed of quite a lot of European ancestry. Judging from these test results, the bottom line is that black and white Americans are inextricably interconnected at the level of their genomes, and African Americans are a profoundly "mixed" people, far more than anyone thought possible before these DNA tests were invented. And no matter what your features are -- your shade of brown, your hair texture, the shape of your lips and nose -- if you are an African American reading this column, you are likely "mixed" as well, even if you don't think you look that way.
http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2013/02/how_mixed_are_african_americans.3.html

If there is genetic manipulation its in that way. And I'm assuming that wasn't for some intentional benefit of enhanced slaves.

As far as manual labor is concerned..you aren't born knowing how harvest crops or blacksmithing any talents and proficiency that came from that came from the fact that pretty much ALL YOUR DOING ALL DAY EVERY DAY in any case. The slaves that were traded initially from africa ALREADY possessed skills and experience in certain trades otherwise time would be wasted not only breaking their spirits but having to teach them basic farming techniques and such.

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barack and michelle are both over six feet...their oldest daughter is pretty tall and on track to be as tall as her parents yet their youngest sasha looks like she won't break 5'10...why is that.. and can you predict that malia (the older) will be athletic like her father?

genetics aren't guaranteed and you can't control people that way.
 

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you guys seem to want to ignore the fact that most if not nearly all american blacks aren't 100% african to begin with. Sure there was a lot of breeding with female slaves but it wasn't 100% of the time with other black slaves.

Rather, it turns out that black people in this country are surprisingly "white," meaning that our genomes are composed of quite a lot of European ancestry. Judging from these test results, the bottom line is that black and white Americans are inextricably interconnected at the level of their genomes, and African Americans are a profoundly "mixed" people, far more than anyone thought possible before these DNA tests were invented. And no matter what your features are -- your shade of brown, your hair texture, the shape of your lips and nose -- if you are an African American reading this column, you are likely "mixed" as well, even if you don't think you look that way.
http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2013/02/how_mixed_are_african_americans.3.html

If there is genetic manipulation its in that way. And I'm assuming that wasn't for some intentional benefit of enhanced slaves.

As far as manual labor is concerned..you aren't born knowing how harvest crops or blacksmithing any talents and proficiency that came from that came from the fact that pretty much ALL YOUR DOING ALL DAY EVERY DAY in any case. The slaves that were traded initially from africa ALREADY possessed skills and experience in certain trades otherwise time would be wasted not only breaking their spirits but having to teach them basic farming techniques and such.

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barack and michelle are both over six feet...their oldest daughter is pretty tall and on track to be as tall as her parents yet their youngest sasha looks like she won't break 5'10...why is that.. and can you predict that malia (the older) will be athletic like her father?

genetics aren't guaranteed and you can't control people that way.
yes, Geech, you can... its established fact at this point. Thats exactly how genetics works but its far from 100%

For offspring the odds increase in favor of known parental traits, and they increase exponentially if they are DOMINANT traits - why do you think Drs ask if any of your parents or grandparents had heart conditions, diabetes, hyper tension, addictions etc etc.... ancestral traits tilt the odds- they increase the predisposition for off spring to have same ailments physical attributes, intelligence, etc...

Even if Obama's youngest doesn't pass 5'10 she will still be taller than the norm for women of any race... so there is no outlier there it is reasonably expected.

Humans aren't born hardwired to do anything... but its possible for one to breed offspring with high probability for high functioning intelligence (fast learning and memory) above average hand eye coordination, greater predisposition for high bone and muscle density (strength & durability) which was highly desired not only for field work but because slaves also had a very high mortality rate.
If two people with these traits have kids there is a good chance at least 3 of 5 (60%) will get most if not all of the desired traits...

Don't get stuck on us having white etc blood... A majority of African traits are DOMINANT, its why most mixed race kids color closer to the darker parent, and almost never color as light as or lighter than the lighter parent... Even worse for your argument - ONLY THE STRONGEST OF US SURVIVED THE VOYAGE HERE... it was an unintended culling, but it resulted in exceptionally strong stock as a starting point. Throw in a slave penal colony in Jamaica and government sponsored financial rewards for increased slave full term pregnancies in the Caribbean and active eugenics in Barbuda / Barbados.... guess what? even with massa and slave master having a kid or 3 with a slave it was common for a slave to still have 10 or more babies with other slaves.

As for slave education... just stop... you have no clue about the economy or training. Skilled labor like carpentry to blacksmith etc takes approx 10 years of long days to MASTER.... and a slave owner with a proficient to master craftsman generated ALOT of money.
Slavery was a profitable business- they encouraged and fostered anything that derived a profit having quick strong slaves for the field was not the only area of profit.
 
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