House nigga scum....fuck this bitch

kes1111

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Zimmerman’s invulnerability group has black novice
Channa Aiyanna Lloyd aka Channa A Wells


SANFORD, FL (POOL/CNN) – Much of what’s been pronounced about a George Zimmerman box has concerned race.

The victim, Trayvon Martin was black; a male who shot and killed him is Hispanic. That competence be since one member of Zimmerman’s invulnerability team, Channa Lloyd, is gaining attention.

In a box so delirious by racially-charged opinion, it was roughly unfit not to notice a immature black lady on Zimmerman’s differently all-white invulnerability team.

Lloyd pronounced she had usually one doubt for profession Mark O’Mara.

“I asked him is George a racist. And he pronounced no. we wouldn’t work for him if he was,” Lloyd said. “Being African American, even if he was a customer in need of illustration we don’t know that we would have been means to divorce that, and we to have to have correct illustration and people who can do that.”

If one find Lloyd’s impasse in a invulnerability of George Zimmerman surprising, we competence be even some-more astounded to find out she’s a volunteer, operative for free. Lloyd is a third year law tyro in Orlando, a 34-year-old novice operative a box of a lifetime.

Observations of Lloyd’s impasse ranges from her friends to a internet, with many people usually being curious: who is she? What is she doing there?

“You know, kind of what a position is, what a purpose is,” Lloyd said. “Am we usually there since I’m black? Those kind of things.”

One lady even tweeted, “Black women seated with Zimmerman invulnerability group is on wrong side of a courtroom. Wrong side of history.” Lloyd has well-placed difference for her.

“I would contend that they’re not unequivocally wakeful of what story is. If they consider that this is a totally secular issue, we would tell him or her to go behind and revisit a case. we consider it’s misplaced,” Lloyd said.
 

Mixd

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Yeah hundreds of thousands of people including celebrities are rallying that this is just wrong. News media reporters are all in shock as well.

And you mean to tell me we should all go revisit this case?

No why don't you go revisit your black race.
 

ballscout1

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Some of you mofokrs are just plain stupid and cry babies.

So she is a coon because she wants to be a lawyer and volunteered to intern on this case, one of the highest profile cases in years ?

Interned to get experience so that when she graduates she has courtroom experience

There is value in interning and I have spoken to many black students and asked them why they didn't intern during the summer and many said they aren't working for free.

Dumbest answer in the world because the obviously don't know the value of the experience and the networking that is established for the long run.

You cats wanna call her coon but the prosecution blew this case they had a year to put together.

Everybody is entitled to a defense and some of you forget how hard it was for many blacks charged with all shorts of bullshit to get decent defense lawyers

You forget how many of the mofokrs in prison are there because they had public defenders and not a vigorous defense.

You cats forget that before you mofokrs ever heard of Johnny Cochran how many mofokrs relied on William Kunstler and his partner Ron Kuby when no other lawyer would touch those cases.

Maybe you cats that live in Florida and the other states with similar laws are the coons because when they were being passed with the express intention of legalizing the I'm afraid of the big black man defense you wasn't doing shit...

Why not let her get her degree and see what kind of defense lawyer she turns out to be...See if she is a defender of the defenseless which more times than not is US.


Its great to be disappointed ,hurt and all that over this trial and others. And it should be a call to action that lasts longer than a week.

but that coon shit is tired and dumb..what makes you mofokrs the authority on who is and who isn't..


this was a weak case and hard to prove with no witnesses and the prosecution fucked it up by not have a clear sensible case.First they said Trayvon wasn't on top then they said he was but because they were rolling around.

they never harped on the obvious and that was Zimmerman pulled the gun out when he came face to face with Trayvon ( he said he was reaching for his phone). Trayvon thinking he is about to be shot by a cat that still never identified himself punched Zimmerman in the nose. Zimmerman fell backwards hitting his head and getting those scratches. Trayvon jumped on him to try and hold him and not get shit while screaming for help. Zimmerman still had the gun out and was able to get it pointed at Trayvon and shot.

Screaming stops at that point and Trayvon lays dying.


The gun was already out and the defense hired medical examiner admitted that under cross.

but that admission was not brought up again in closing or any other time.

They spent to much time trying to answer the defenses story instead of laying out theres and using Georges words and the other testimony and common sense to make their case of what happened
 

TimRock

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^^^^agreed.

At least she's not twerking on youtube. She actually has a career.
 

METALFACE

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Some of you mofokrs are just plain stupid and cry babies.

So she is a coon because she wants to be a lawyer and volunteered to intern on this case, one of the highest profile cases in years ?

Interned to get experience so that when she graduates she has courtroom experience

There is value in interning and I have spoken to many black students and asked them why they didn't intern during the summer and many said they aren't working for free.

Dumbest answer in the world because the obviously don't know the value of the experience and the networking that is established for the long run.

You cats wanna call her coon but the prosecution blew this case they had a year to put together.

Everybody is entitled to a defense and some of you forget how hard it was for many blacks charged with all shorts of bullshit to get decent defense lawyers

You forget how many of the mofokrs in prison are there because they had public defenders and not a vigorous defense.

You cats forget that before you mofokrs ever heard of Johnny Cochran how many mofokrs relied on William Kunstler and his partner Ron Kuby when no other lawyer would touch those cases.

Maybe you cats that live in Florida and the other states with similar laws are the coons because when they were being passed with the express intention of legalizing the I'm afraid of the big black man defense you wasn't doing shit...

Why not let her get her degree and see what kind of defense lawyer she turns out to be...See if she is a defender of the defenseless which more times than not is US.


Its great to be disappointed ,hurt and all that over this trial and others. And it should be a call to action that lasts longer than a week.

but that coon shit is tired and dumb..what makes you mofokrs the authority on who is and who isn't..


this was a weak case and hard to prove with no witnesses and the prosecution fucked it up by not have a clear sensible case.First they said Trayvon wasn't on top then they said he was but because they were rolling around.

they never harped on the obvious and that was Zimmerman pulled the gun out when he came face to face with Trayvon ( he said he was reaching for his phone). Trayvon thinking he is about to be shot by a cat that still never identified himself punched Zimmerman in the nose. Zimmerman fell backwards hitting his head and getting those scratches. Trayvon jumped on him to try and hold him and not get shit while screaming for help. Zimmerman still had the gun out and was able to get it pointed at Trayvon and shot.

Screaming stops at that point and Trayvon lays dying.


The gun was already out and the defense hired medical examiner admitted that under cross.

but that admission was not brought up again in closing or any other time.

They spent to much time trying to answer the defenses story instead of laying out theres and using Georges words and the other testimony and common sense to make their case of what happened

She will have great visibility for it. I don't consider her a coon at all. I think she was being used but she did it for her career. She got something, they got something.
 

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She will have great visibility for it. I don't consider her a coon at all. I think she was being used but she did it for her career. She got something, they got something.


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And that's what makes it right? Now if the ends justify the means and she becomes the Atticus Finch of Law then this is just a fucked up- REAL FUCKED UP- footnote for a person who felt they'd eat there shit sandwhich now than later (BTW, there are thousands of law firms offering free internships, she sought this one and this case out in particular knowingly, and being 34, knowing how she'd potentially be used "I'll eat the shit sandwhich, in fact I ordered it!". JUST SAYING.):hmm: .


But we don't see the end- yet- we see the means and right now this chick "took it like a big girl." for- to our current knowledge- the greater good of HER; and honestly, probably won't extend any further from there. Hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

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Bluelaser

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It may appear that she's assisting with the Zimmerman case for free.
But I suspect that there is some type of back door compensation
for this woman in terms of cash, or getting her tuition paid by an alum,
or getting her mortgage paid off, or maybe upon passing the bar exam
she will get a job with the defense attorney's law firm.
But you best believe she will be compensated in some form or fashion.
 

Rudey

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Lawyers are opportunists and the whole entire profession is build on the premise of being a hypocrite and a liar. It is not about ethics.

Lawyers defend child molesters, rapists and cold blooded murderers so how is that any different from what she is doing? She is no sell out for being a part of this case.

I don't even think she believes what she said about Zimmerman not being racist.
 

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@ballscout If you were her, and instead of Trayvon, it was your brother - would you be ok with interning for the experience?

Too close to the situation?

Well, that's exactly what we're saying.

You may think there is a difference because I'm used a close blood relative to make my point, and someone she doesn't know...

...but we're talking about a case where black people all over the country were very emotionally invested in seeing a guilty verdict, and you think it's cool, for the sake of career, to be a part of the team fighting for a not guilty verdict?

Hey, you're free to do what you want...

...but do not neglect to think of the short and long term ramifications of your choices. Also, was this 'experience' worth it to be branded as a 'sell-out'. You can SAY she's not, but let's see her stand in front a room of 1000 black people and proudly proclaim her defense teams victory! If there is nothing wrong with it, then she can wear that victory like a badge of honor, right?

Uh-huh.
 

ballscout1

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And that's what makes it right? Now if the ends justify the means and she becomes the Atticus Finch of Law then this is just a fucked up footnote for a person who felt they'd eat there shit sandwhich now than later (BTW, there are thousands of law firms offering free internships, she sought this one and this case out in particular knowingly, and being 34, knowing how she'd potentially be used "I'll eat the shit sandwhich, in fact I ordered it!". JUST SAYING.) .


But we don't see the end- yet- we see the means and right now this chick is "taking it like a big girl." for- to our current knowledge- the greater good of HER; and honestly, probably won't branch out any further from there. Hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

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*two cents*

So she should have volunteered for traffic court ?

Defense lawyers by the nature of their chosen field take unpopular cases because everybody is entitled to a rigorous defense.

she they only take whats popular ?

and she isn't even a lawyer yet so should she only gain her knowledge working on popular cases ?

would she have been a coon if she interned the Casey Anthony defense ? Or onlt this case because this defendent pisses you off.

and all interns do grunt work and get sandwiches and make copies and do menial things. and they generally do it for free.

so should a surgeon only operate on people they like ?
 

ballscout1

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SupremeExtremist;13223002[B said:
]@ballscout If you were her, and instead of Trayvon, it was your brother - would you be ok with interning for the experience?[/B]
Too close to the situation?

Well, that's exactly what we're saying.

You may think there is a difference because I'm used a close blood relative to make my point, and someone she doesn't know...

...but we're talking about a case where black people all over the country were very emotionally invested in seeing a guilty verdict, and you think it's cool, for the sake of career, to be a part of the team fighting for a not guilty verdict?

Hey, you're free to do what you want...

...but do not neglect to think of the short and long term ramifications of your choices. Also, was this 'experience' worth it to be branded as a 'sell-out'. You can SAY she's not, but let's see her stand in front a room of 1000 black people and proudly proclaim her defense teams victory! If there is nothing wrong with it, then she can wear that victory like a badge of honor, right?

Uh-huh.

if it was my brother of course not .

if it were her brother i doubt she would have interned for it either.

why is she close to the situation ? I didn't see her personal connection to the case .

they also won't let you operate on a family member ir you were a surgeon

and they shouldn't let you work a criminal case involving a family member if you are police...


I don't think anybody would remember her by the time she passes the bar and more than i don't think all those you say are vested will mention Trayvon.

Let's see how vested they are since I expect every lected official in Sanford and Seminole county to be voted out of office.

What ramifications do black corrections officers face when an inmate dies at the prison they work for ?

Or working in a prison anyway since the industrial complex is set the way it is .

I just don't see that vested emotional interest of today translating into next month.

I would love to be wrong but I haven't seen it.
 

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she will feel the wrath of the black community worst than zimmerman. Mark my words.

she will live to regret her stupid decision.
 

Naha-Nago

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So she should have volunteered for traffic court ?

Defense lawyers by the nature of their chosen field take unpopular cases because everybody is entitled to a rigorous defense.

she they only take whats popular ?

and she isn't even a lawyer yet so should she only gain her knowledge working on popular cases ?

would she have been a coon if she interned the Casey Anthony defense ? Or onlt this case because this defendent pisses you off.

and all interns do grunt work and get sandwiches and make copies and do menial things. and they generally do it for free.

so should a surgeon only operate on people they like ?


She has the right to "Get her's" via a controversial, racially charged, case that had gathered national & international attention by playing to sole black on the defence team (side note: your right SHE ISN'T A LAWYER,so why was the intern in the courtroom? She could have got the production credit with out "P-Diddy up all in the video" JUST SAYING). That's capitalism.


People also has the right to look at her sideways for capitalizing on the situation. That's called consequences for one's action.

So she had the right to "get hers" just a much as people have the right to label her a piece of shit bed wench coon for stepping over the body of a 17 year old to get it.


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Mixd

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Ballscout, I'd like to seriously ask, let's change up the situation...

Let's say that she was interning on a case where a man, Bobby Scissorhands, was on trial as a serial female genitalia mutilator. He basically chopped off women's clits and their nipples. 5 women said he did it to them. His whole entire defense is all men except for her. She asked the law team does he have anything against women or does he not like women.

How do you think other women as a whole would view her?
 

max-dawg

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fuck that bed wench and anyone on here cosigning/justifying her coon ass

so, what you are saying that is the term, "coon" should be applied to people who sell out their race?

bc on bgol, the term "coon" has sexual (skin color, not pussy pink color) preference connotations.

where does Frederick Douglass fit in this...

:dunno:

from Max's Samsung G-Note
 

Upgrade Dave

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Fuck her. I don't care about her. I care about the nigga who pulled the trigga and killed ht e17 year old kid. Don't look for no scapegoats. Its only one nigga that deserves blame.

:yes:

I don't know about her saying Zimmerman wasn't a racist but as far as working for the defense, I'm cool with that.
 

crossovernegro

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Yeah, her working on the case, as much as I disagree with her choice, as a soon to be attorney (her, not me) I can see her logic from a career standpoint.... at least kinda.

The thing is though, and I hope she has to think about this long and hard over the years. By riding on the Zimmerman side, whether or not she meant to or thinks it's so, she's also riding with all of those right wingers who daily call Trayvon a thug,and the outright racists who say that he got what he deserved, etc. Hell, the lead attorney on her team said that Trayvon was responsible for his own death... she explicitly co-signs that by being there. Everything that came out of Don West's mouth, and Mark O'mara's mouth... she has to own that shit. She's on their team, whether she likes it or not. I hope the career advancement was worth it.
 
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ballscout1

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Ballscout, I'd like to seriously ask, let's change up the situation...

Let's say that she was interning on a case where a man, Bobby Scissorhands, was on trial as a serial female genitalia mutilator. He basically chopped off women's clits and their nipples. 5 women said he did it to them. His whole entire defense is all men except for her. She asked the law team does he have anything against women or does he not like women.

How do you think other women as a whole would view her?

I doubt she would have been an issue since she was little more than a secretary.

There has been more venom towards her than at the police who treated Zimmerman as a friend and never challenged his story or the attorneys that actually defended the case.

Just seems like she is being given credit/blame for the aquittal

It seems to me that if she can put personal feelings aside to defend whoever then she could be a very effective lawyer if she graduates and passes the bar.

Not much has been said about the weak ass prosecution either.

My point is if you decline to work on any case were the defendent makes your blood boil then you should not be a lawyer at least not a defense lawyer.

But the same would go for the prosecution I guess....There are many cases that they might have empathy but since they work for the DA they have to work the case assigned...

Or a judge....how does a judge deal with mandatory sentences..
 

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I doubt she would have been an issue since she was little more than a secretary.

There has been more venom towards her than at the police who treated Zimmerman as a friend and never challenged his story or the attorneys that actually defended the case.

Just seems like she is being given credit/blame for the aquittal

It seems to me that if she can put personal feelings aside to defend whoever then she could be a very effective lawyer if she graduates and passes the bar.

Not much has been said about the weak ass prosecution either.

My point is if you decline to work on any case were the defendent makes your blood boil then you should not be a lawyer at least not a defense lawyer.

But the same would go for the prosecution I guess....There are many cases that they might have empathy but since they work for the DA they have to work the case assigned...

Or a judge....how does a judge deal with mandatory sentences..

:yes:
 

Mixd

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I doubt she would have been an issue since she was little more than a secretary.

There has been more venom towards her than at the police who treated Zimmerman as a friend and never challenged his story or the attorneys that actually defended the case.

Just seems like she is being given credit/blame for the aquittal

It seems to me that if she can put personal feelings aside to defend whoever then she could be a very effective lawyer if she graduates and passes the bar.

Not much has been said about the weak ass prosecution either.

My point is if you decline to work on any case were the defendent makes your blood boil then you should not be a lawyer at least not a defense lawyer.

But the same would go for the prosecution I guess....There are many cases that they might have empathy but since they work for the DA they have to work the case assigned...

Or a judge....how does a judge deal with mandatory sentences..

Totally agree.

I am dropping "conspiracy" here:
I can remember the night of the arrest, Zimmerman walking with the police, had no injuries, no blood. As I said, on this very board last year, that I felt the police lumped him up and maybe coached him on what to do. I have seen this many times in NYC, am sure all police dept's nationwide do the same. Just my theory. His dad is a retired judge, so am sure some sort of strings were pulled.

The prosecution did suck major balls.

The case was rushed thru, a week and a half seemed to be done before it even started. When prosecution rested, I said the only thing he proved was he can't win a case.

I've been an EMT with NYC since the 90's, quit years ago. I have seen many an injury in my time, would one agree? If he was bashed against the concrete, where are the black and blue marks or the bruising and scraping. The cuts were superficial, probably cut by the rough concrete, if that at all did that.

I don't know where they are lashing out at this chick, other than here, but she to me is the last cog in the wheel, every thing else is more major than her, yes.

Police Dept, prosecution, and a ton of other things, so this chick adding icing by helping his team, no matter if she was a secretary or what, the simple fact that she was brought into a court room by his defense was a chess move because of the color of her skin, period.
 

crossovernegro

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The part you said about not much being said about the weak prosecution... actually this whole thread (sorry, not this thread.... the Zimmerman thread) is filled with venom towards the weak prosecution. Other than one or two days, and the 3rd man on the team (Mantei?) the opinion was probably 75% that the prosecution was impotent or actually throwing the case for that whole first 8 or 9 days of the trial.



I doubt she would have been an issue since she was little more than a secretary.

There has been more venom towards her than at the police who treated Zimmerman as a friend and never challenged his story or the attorneys that actually defended the case.

Just seems like she is being given credit/blame for the aquittal

It seems to me that if she can put personal feelings aside to defend whoever then she could be a very effective lawyer if she graduates and passes the bar.

Not much has been said about the weak ass prosecution either.

My point is if you decline to work on any case were the defendent makes your blood boil then you should not be a lawyer at least not a defense lawyer.

But the same would go for the prosecution I guess....There are many cases that they might have empathy but since they work for the DA they have to work the case assigned...

Or a judge....how does a judge deal with mandatory sentences..
 

ballscout1

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Police Dept, prosecution, and a ton of other things, so this chick adding icing by helping his team, no matter if she was a secretary or what, the simple fact that she was brought into a court room by his defense was a chess move because of the color of her skin, period.

maybe the prosecution should have worried about getting someone on the jury based on their color.

in fact there was a black man early in the jury selection that the prosecution dismissed....

how would he being on the defense team help them becuase she was black when the whole jury was non black

the prosecution was non black

much of seminole county is non black

you mean she helped them for the tv audience ?

that would show they aren't racists but fuck what comes out of their mouth.


like Omara saying that the only thing different if Zimmerman was black would be he would never had been tried ?

or Zimmerman saying this was god's plan

or his brother saying Trayvon was a drugged out thug

so having a black woman working for them meant that no matter what they said or how muh they villified Trayvon they aren't racist ?

what a stretch
 

ballscout1

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The part you said about not much being said about the weak prosecution... actually this whole thread (sorry, not this thread.... the Zimmerman thread) is filled with venom towards the weak prosecution. Other than one or two days, and the 3rd man on the team (Mantei?) the opinion was probably 75% that the prosecution was impotent or actually throwing the case for that whole first 8 or 9 days of the trial.

as it should have been..

prosecution started one way they changed their theory to fit defense witnesses.

the prosecution is the one that raised reasonable doubt with all the could have been this and could have been that..

and as I said they didn't use the defense witness who would have proven the only real way it happened


Dr Dimeo said the gun was already out before George went to the ground.

exactly..

because he pulled it and Trayvon did the only thing he could

He punched Zimmerman in the nose and Zimmerman fell back hit his head and got two scraps and a little swelling.

Trayvon got on him trying to hold him so he wouldn't get shot and was screaming for help

Zimmerman still had the gun in his hand was was able to get his hand free and shot Trayvon in his chest.



The above answers

how did Zimmerman get the gun out

how was Trayvon seen on top

who was screaming

why was the shot a contact shot on his clothes but not his skin .

Had they gone with the above and stayed there the defense would have had to put Zimmerman on the stand because with the above as the defenses theory of what happened none of the defense witnesses have any value



The defense kept the focus on who was on top...How did Zimmerman get his head scratched..why was Trayvon on top...who was screaming



And the proesecutors played defense the whole trial..
 

crossovernegro

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Not even debating all that... I was just referring to what you had said about the weak prosecution not being talked about. Wasn't sure if you were aware that pretty much everybody was trashing the prosecution. We killed them in the sticky thread.



as it should have been..

prosecution started one way they changed their theory to fit defense witnesses.

the prosecution is the one that raised reasonable doubt with all the could have been this and could have been that..

and as I said they didn't use the defense witness who would have proven the only real way it happened


Dr Dimeo said the gun was already out before George went to the ground.

exactly..

because he pulled it and Trayvon did the only thing he could

He punched Zimmerman in the nose and Zimmerman fell back hit his head and got two scraps and a little swelling.

Trayvon got on him trying to hold him so he wouldn't get shot and was screaming for help

Zimmerman still had the gun in his hand was was able to get his hand free and shot Trayvon in his chest.



The above answers

how did Zimmerman get the gun out

how was Trayvon seen on top

who was screaming

why was the shot a contact shot on his clothes but not his skin .

Had they gone with the above and stayed there the defense would have had to put Zimmerman on the stand because with the above as the defenses theory of what happened none of the defense witnesses have any value



The defense kept the focus on who was on top...How did Zimmerman get his head scratched..why was Trayvon on top...who was screaming



And the proesecutors played defense the whole trial..
 

SoulPatch

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I doubt she would have been an issue since she was little more than a secretary.

There has been more venom towards her than at the police who treated Zimmerman as a friend and never challenged his story or the attorneys that actually defended the case.

Just seems like she is being given credit/blame for the aquittal

It seems to me that if she can put personal feelings aside to defend whoever then she could be a very effective lawyer if she graduates and passes the bar.

Not much has been said about the weak ass prosecution either.

My point is if you decline to work on any case were the defendent makes your blood boil then you should not be a lawyer at least not a defense lawyer.

But the same would go for the prosecution I guess....There are many cases that they might have empathy but since they work for the DA they have to work the case assigned...

Or a judge....how does a judge deal with mandatory sentences..

You forgot one thing. She was a volunteer on this case. It was not mandatory.

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mangobob79

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Some of you mofokrs are just plain stupid and cry babies.

So she is a coon because she wants to be a lawyer and volunteered to intern on this case, one of the highest profile cases in years ?

Interned to get experience so that when she graduates she has courtroom experience

There is value in interning and I have spoken to many black students and asked them why they didn't intern during the summer and many said they aren't working for free.

Dumbest answer in the world because the obviously don't know the value of the experience and the networking that is established for the long run.

You cats wanna call her coon but the prosecution blew this case they had a year to put together.

Everybody is entitled to a defense and some of you forget how hard it was for many blacks charged with all shorts of bullshit to get decent defense lawyers

You forget how many of the mofokrs in prison are there because they had public defenders and not a vigorous defense.

U CAN CHOOSE AND PICK WHAT U WANT TO USE AS A TOOL TO EXPERIENCE, THS SHOULDNT BE ONE OF THEM

You cats forget that before you mofokrs ever heard of Johnny Cochran how many mofokrs relied on William Kunstler and his partner Ron Kuby when no other lawyer would touch those cases.
WHY DIDINT THOSE OTHER LAWYERS WANNA TAKE THE CASE?


Maybe you cats that live in Florida and the other states with similar laws are the coons because when they were being passed with the express intention of legalizing the I'm afraid of the big black man defense you wasn't doing shit...

Why not let her get her degree and see what kind of defense lawyer she turns out to be...See if she is a defender of the defenseless which more times than not is US.


Its great to be disappointed ,hurt and all that over this trial and others. And it should be a call to action that lasts longer than a week.

but that coon shit is tired and dumb..what makes you mofokrs the authority on who is and who isn't..


this was a weak case and hard to prove with no witnesses and the prosecution fucked it up by not have a clear sensible case.First they said Trayvon wasn't on top then they said he was but because they were rolling around.

they never harped on the obvious and that was Zimmerman pulled the gun out when he came face to face with Trayvon ( he said he was reaching for his phone). Trayvon thinking he is about to be shot by a cat that still never identified himself punched Zimmerman in the nose. Zimmerman fell backwards hitting his head and getting those scratches. Trayvon jumped on him to try and hold him and not get shit while screaming for help. Zimmerman still had the gun out and was able to get it pointed at Trayvon and shot.

Screaming stops at that point and Trayvon lays dying.


The gun was already out and the defense hired medical examiner admitted that under cross.

but that admission was not brought up again in closing or any other time.


They spent to much time trying to answer the defenses story instead of laying out theres and using Georges words and the other testimony and common sense to make their case of what happened

Lawyers are opportunists and the whole entire profession is build on the premise of being a hypocrite and a liar. It is not about ethics.

Lawyers defend child molesters, rapists and cold blooded murderers so how is that any different from what she is doing? She is no sell out for being a part of this case.

I don't even think she believes what she said about Zimmerman not being racist.

WOULD A JEWISH LAWYER OPENLY AND PROUDLY VOLUNTEER TO DEFEND A PERCEIVED ANTI-SEMITE WHO KILLS A JEWISH KID?



@ballscout If you were her, and instead of Trayvon, it was your brother - would you be ok with interning for the experience?

Too close to the situation?

Well, that's exactly what we're saying.

You may think there is a difference because I'm used a close blood relative to make my point, and someone she doesn't know...

...but we're talking about a case where black people all over the country were very emotionally invested in seeing a guilty verdict, and you think it's cool, for the sake of career, to be a part of the team fighting for a not guilty verdict?

EXACTLY!
Hey, you're free to do what you want...

...but do not neglect to think of the short and long term ramifications of your choices. Also, was this 'experience' worth it to be branded as a 'sell-out'. You can SAY she's not, but let's see her stand in front a room of 1000 black people and proudly proclaim her defense teams victory! If there is nothing wrong with it, then she can wear that victory like a badge of honor, right?

Uh-huh.

:confused::confused::confused:
If it was him, he wouldnt be interning for the defense, because his brother would be the victim.

ANOTHER CAC RESPONSE..SHOWS HOW DIVORCED U ARE FROM " THE SOULS OF BLACK FOLKS"

if it was my brother of course not .

if it were her brother i doubt she would have interned for it either.

why is she close to the situation ? I didn't see her personal connection to the case .

REALLY ? HER PERSONAL CONNECTION TO THIS CASE..IS THAT WHAT UR ASKING AS A BLACK PERSON, IN THIS AMERICA OF TODAY WITH HISTORY AND WHITE PEOPLE CELEBRATING TRAYVON'S MUDER ?AND CAC AND FOX NEWS CRIMINALIZING A BLACK BOY ? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A WHITE KID GOT KILLED AND FOX NEWS CRIMINALIZED HIM FROM THE GET GO? U DONT SEE OR THINK ABOUT HER PERSOANL CONNECTION AS BLACK PERSON? REALLY ?

they also won't let you operate on a family member ir you were a surgeon =

and they shouldn't let you work a criminal case involving a family member if you are police...


I don't think anybody would remember her by the time she passes the bar and more than i don't think all those you say are vested will mention Trayvon.

Let's see how vested they are since I expect every lected official in Sanford and Seminole county to be voted out of office.

What ramifications do black corrections officers face when an inmate dies at the prison they work for ?

Or working in a prison anyway since the industrial complex is set the way it is .

I just don't see that vested emotional interest of today translating into next month.

I would love to be wrong but I haven't seen it.

Yeah, her working on the case, as much as I disagree with her choice, as a soon to be attorney (her, not me) I can see her logic from a career standpoint.... at least kinda.

The thing is though, and I hope she has to think about this long and hard over the years. By riding on the Zimmerman side, whether or not she meant to or thinks it's so, she's also riding with all of those right wingers who daily call Trayvon a thug,and the outright racists who say that he got what he deserved, etc. Hell, the lead attorney on her team said that Trayvon was responsible for his own death... she explicitly co-signs that by being there. Everything that came out of Don West's mouth, and Mark O'mara's mouth... she has to own that shit. She's on their team, whether she likes it or not. I hope the career advancement was worth it.
ATLAST SOMEONE WHO CAN SEE IT

I doubt she would have been an issue since she was little more than a secretary.

There has been more venom towards her than at the police who treated Zimmerman as a friend and never challenged his story or the attorneys that actually defended the case.
BECOS SHE IS THE FACE OMARRA PUT UPFRONT!

Just seems like she is being given credit/blame for the aquittal :
NO, BUT SHE IS AN ACCESSORY TO THE ACQUITTAL AND MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE

It seems to me that if she can put personal feelings aside to defend whoever then she could be a very effective lawyer if she graduates and passes the bar.

Not much has been said about the weak ass prosecution either.

My point is if you decline to work on any case were the defendent makes your blood boil then you should not be a lawyer at least not a defense lawyer.

But the same would go for the prosecution I guess....There are many cases that they might have empathy but since they work for the DA they have to work the case assigned...

Or a judge....how does a judge deal with mandatory sentences..


Totally agree.

I am dropping "conspiracy" here:
I can remember the night of the arrest, Zimmerman walking with the police, had no injuries, no blood. As I said, on this very board last year, that I felt the police lumped him up and maybe coached him on what to do. I have seen this many times in NYC, am sure all police dept's nationwide do the same. Just my theory. His dad is a retired judge, so am sure some sort of strings were pulled.

The prosecution did suck major balls.

The case was rushed thru, a week and a half seemed to be done before it even started. When prosecution rested, I said the only thing he proved was he can't win a case.

I've been an EMT with NYC since the 90's, quit years ago. I have seen many an injury in my time, would one agree? If he was bashed against the concrete, where are the black and blue marks or the bruising and scraping. The cuts were superficial, probably cut by the rough concrete, if that at all did that.

I don't know where they are lashing out at this chick, other than here, but she to me is the last cog in the wheel, every thing else is more major than her, yes.

Police Dept, prosecution, and a ton of other things, so this chick adding icing by helping his team, no matter if she was a secretary or what, the simple fact that she was brought into a court room by his defense was a chess move because of the color of her skin, period.

as it should have been..

prosecution started one way they changed their theory to fit defense witnesses.

the prosecution is the one that raised reasonable doubt with all the could have been this and could have been that..

and as I said they didn't use the defense witness who would have proven the only real way it happened


Dr Dimeo said the gun was already out before George went to the ground.

exactly..

because he pulled it and Trayvon did the only thing he could

He punched Zimmerman in the nose and Zimmerman fell back hit his head and got two scraps and a little swelling.

Trayvon got on him trying to hold him so he wouldn't get shot and was screaming for help

Zimmerman still had the gun in his hand was was able to get his hand free and shot Trayvon in his chest.



The above answers

how did Zimmerman get the gun out

how was Trayvon seen on top

who was screaming

why was the shot a contact shot on his clothes but not his skin .

Had they gone with the above and stayed there the defense would have had to put Zimmerman on the stand because with the above as the defenses theory of what happened none of the defense witnesses have any value



The defense kept the focus on who was on top...How did Zimmerman get his head scratched..why was Trayvon on top...who was screaming



And the proesecutors played defense the whole trial..


ITS FUNNY HOW TIMROCK AND BALLSCOUT CANT SEE THE RAMIFICATIONS..U THINK OF ONE CASE BUT WE SEE THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE... THIS CASE IS NOT ONE LOCAL CASE THAT GETS FEW VIEWERS ,ITS MUCH BIGGER AND GOES FURTHER THAN FLORIDA!
IT SETS A PRECEDENT TO HOW MY AND HER KIDS AND YA'LL KIDS(ASSUMIN BALLSCOUT AND TIMROCK R BLACK) WILL BE TREATED IN THE FUTURE,
IT SETS A PRECEDENT THAT ALLOWS RACIST CACS WALK WITH A SENSE OF COMFORT ,THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH MURDERING UR FAMILY, IF THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN USE SYG LAWS, IT LEAVES THEM WITH THAT BELIEF, THAT THEY CAN DO WHAT AMERICA HAS BEEN TRYNNA DO FOR ALONG TIME WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE SINCE IT WAS OUTLAWED TO RANDOMLY DISCRIMINATE AND SHOOT N**GZ THEN CLAIM SELF DEFENSE.. IT GIVES ALL THOSE CACS ON TWITTER & YT AND FOX THE JOY OF CELEBRATING A MURDER OF ANOTHER "THUG..MARIJUANA SMOKING..GUN DEALING(ZMMNS BROTHER" WHERE DID HE GET THAT FROM? )AND U STAND TO VOLUNTEER FOR HIS BROTHER WHO MURDERS A KID THAT COULD'VE BEEN UR DAUGHTERS COLLEGE MATE"..

SO SHE COULD'VE VOLUNTEER TO DEFEND THE SLAVE HOLDER WHO TRIED TO KEEP CINQUE AND HIS FAMILY IN SLAVERY BECOS IT WOULD'VE HELPED HER CAREER ? OK.I HEAR U...:rolleyes:
 

ballscout1

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
You forgot one thing. She was a volunteer on this case. It was not mandatory.

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Volunteers pick up trash in vacant lots and serve soup to the homeless.

Students intern on an unpaid basis in their course of study..


I never said it was mandatory. I said that is what students do to get real world experience and network prior to graduate.

at least the smart ones do.
 

TimRock

Don't let me be misunderstood
BGOL Investor
ANOTHER CAC RESPONSE..SHOWS HOW DIVORCED U ARE FROM " THE SOULS OF BLACK FOLKS"[/COLOR][/SIZE]
ITS FUNNY HOW TIMROCK AND BALLSCOUT CANT SEE THE RAMIFICATION.

The hell are you talking about? The question didnt make sense to me. I wasnt taking any side.

This was the question

ballscout If you were her, and instead of Trayvon, it was your brother - would you be ok with interning for the experience?[/B]
Too close to the situation?
So the poster is asking, if Ballscout was the black Intern, and if it was his (ballscouts) brother that got killed....

My question is, how would this even be possible? Why would Ballscout be defending the man who killed his brother? maybe the question was phrased wrong. I wasnt comment on the debate the two are having. Im just asking how would that situation be possible?
 
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