ICE CUBE: 3 TRILL WAS PRINTED WITH NO INFLATION. WHY IS POVERTY STILL AN ISSUE?

Tito_Jackson

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Most of you completely overlook the main reason many people are poor..........capitalism and the poor choices people make.

If you had 100 people in a town and gave them all 100K. In a matter of time some would be completely broke and others would be richer. That's not a conspiracy. That's a people problem. But, we hate to put any blame on the impoverished.

People on this very board were going ape ish because I called out the foolish spending people were doing with their stimulus checks as well as their child tax credits. Until we acknowledge the reality of our situation and fully accept that a general lack of financial literacy plagues our community, we will continue to be the bottom caste.
 

babygwirl18

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Most of you completely overlook the main reason many people are poor..........capitalism and the poor choices people make.

If you had 100 people in a town and gave them all 100K. In a matter of time some would be completely broke and others would be richer. That's not a conspiracy. That's a people problem. But, we hate to put any blame on the impoverished.

People on this very board were going ape ish because I called out the foolish spending people were doing with their stimulus checks as well as their child tax credits. Until we acknowledge the reality of our situation and fully accept that a general lack of financial literacy plagues our community, we will continue to be the bottom caste.
People live to call out foolish spending from Black people. But White people do the exact same thing, and yet somehow they manage to avoid poverty(most of them at least).

I don’t disagree with what you say above. Just saying that poverty among Black people is more about racism than it is about “foolish spending.” Most Americans spend foolishly.
 

geechiedan

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Most of you completely overlook the main reason many people are poor..........capitalism and the poor choices people make.

If you had 100 people in a town and gave them all 100K. In a matter of time some would be completely broke and others would be richer. That's not a conspiracy. That's a people problem. But, we hate to put any blame on the impoverished.

People on this very board were going ape ish because I called out the foolish spending people were doing with their stimulus checks as well as their child tax credits. Until we acknowledge the reality of our situation and fully accept that a general lack of financial literacy plagues our community, we will continue to be the bottom caste.
Sen. Joe Manchin told colleagues he believed parents would use child tax credits to buy drugs and people would abuse paid leave to go hunting, report says


:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
 

notreally

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Most of you completely overlook the main reason many people are poor..........capitalism and the poor choices people make.

If you had 100 people in a town and gave them all 100K. In a matter of time some would be completely broke and others would be richer. That's not a conspiracy. That's a people problem. But, we hate to put any blame on the impoverished.

People on this very board were going ape ish because I called out the foolish spending people were doing with their stimulus checks as well as their child tax credits. Until we acknowledge the reality of our situation and fully accept that a general lack of financial literacy plagues our community, we will continue to be the bottom caste.

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

I could not have stated it better than this.
 

trappstarr82

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Most of you completely overlook the main reason many people are poor..........capitalism and the poor choices people make.

If you had 100 people in a town and gave them all 100K. In a matter of time some would be completely broke and others would be richer. That's not a conspiracy. That's a people problem. But, we hate to put any blame on the impoverished.

People on this very board were going ape ish because I called out the foolish spending people were doing with their stimulus checks as well as their child tax credits. Until we acknowledge the reality of our situation and fully accept that a general lack of financial literacy plagues our community, we will continue to be the bottom caste.
This is true but the bigger problem is if out of those same 100 people, you gave 100k to 50 people, and only gave 5k to the other 50 people, who do you feel would do better over time?

Thats pretty much the prevailing issue with black and white inequity in the US. We only got 5k instead of 100k, using your analogy.
 

notreally

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This is true but the bigger problem is if out of those same 100 people, you gave 100k to 50 people, and only gave 5k to the other 50 people, who do you feel would do better over time?

Thats pretty much the prevailing issue with black and white inequity in the US. We only got 5k instead of 100k, using your analogy.

True.

However, 400 years is plenty time to get over shit.

The city of Hamtramck, MI, for example, now has a Muslim government.
Bangladesh have taken over, to the great dismay of the traditionally Polish community, which is notoriously
racist.

They come here barely speaking the language. They cluster in groups. If one opens a barber shop, that shop will be
open late into the night, with members of the community sitting around sipping tea and talking.

The point? They take care of each other. To the point they have garnered enough influence to change the name
of one of the streets to Bangladesh Ave, or some similar madness.

You can give them 5k, and they will build communities. They will open dollar stores, resale shops, barber shops, and restaurants.

You give African Americans 100k, whatever is left after the purchase of the Benz or BMW, will buy gym shoes,
lotto tickets, and a shit load of fake hair and whatever liquor is considered stylish at the time.
They will patronize Arab owned convenience stores, Korean fake hair peddlers, and Popeye's.

It is so bad, that in the typical convenience store in Detroit (we call them party stores), you can go in with 300 bucks, walk out with a short set, a few pairs of underwear, beer, lottery tickets, porn, and likely a chicken dinner depending on the store.

This is because they have evolved their business model to cater to their number one group of customers: African Americans.

This sounds like bitter mockery, but of you have ever visited Detroit, you know this to be sadly accurate.

I have seen this shit cycle hit repeat for generations, literally.

This sounds harsh. I take no pleasure in saying it. However, it is gleaned from experience, in perhaps the blackest
city in America.

The issue at hand is community, or lack thereof. The results speak for themselves.
 
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killagram

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True.

However, 400 years is plenty time to get over shit.

The city of Hamtramck, MI, for example, now has a Muslim government.
Bangladesh have taken over, to the great dismay of the traditionally Polish community, which is notoriously
racist.

They come here barely speaking the language. They cluster in groups. If one opens a barber shop, that shop will be
open late into the night, with members of the community sitting around sipping tea and talking.

The point? They take care of each other. To the point they have garnered enough influence to change the name
of one of the streets to Bangladesh Ave, or some similar madness.

You can give them 5k, and they will build communities. They will open dollar stores, resale shops, barber shops, and restaurants.

You give African Americans 100k, whatever is left after the purchase of the Benz or BMW, will buy gym shoes,
lotto tickets, and a shit load of fake hair and whatever liquor is considered stylish at the time.
They will patronize Arab owned convenience stores, Korean fake hair peddlers, and Popeye's.
It is so bad, that in the typical convenience store in Detroit (we call them party stores), you can go in with 300 bucks, walk out with a short set, a few pairs of underwear, beer, lottery tickets, porn, and likely a chicken dinner depending on the store.

This sounds like bitter mockery, but of you have ever visited Detroit, you know this to be sadly accurate.

I have seen this shit cycle hit repeat for generations, literally.

This sounds harsh. I take no pleasure in saying it. However, it is gleaned from experience, in perhaps the blackest
city in America.

The issue at hand is community, or lack thereof. The results speak for themselves.

Bullshit...if the banks are still barring my folks..at a a higher rate than Cacs....higher interest rates, more fees, more paperwork, less loan principle loaned out, CHEAT CODE is still in they favor...so no fuck that 400 year bullshit.. brah
 

trappstarr82

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True.

However, 400 years is plenty time to get over shit.

The city of Hamtramck, MI, for example, now has a Muslim government.
Bangladesh have taken over, to the great dismay of the traditionally Polish community, which is notoriously
racist.

They come here barely speaking the language. They cluster in groups. If one opens a barber shop, that shop will be
open late into the night, with members of the community sitting around sipping tea and talking.

The point? They take care of each other. To the point they have garnered enough influence to change the name
of one of the streets to Bangladesh Ave, or some similar madness.

You can give them 5k, and they will build communities. They will open dollar stores, resale shops, barber shops, and restaurants.

You give African Americans 100k, whatever is left after the purchase of the Benz or BMW, will buy gym shoes,
lotto tickets, and a shit load of fake hair and whatever liquor is considered stylish at the time.
The will patronize Arab owned convenience stores, Korean fake hair peddlers, and Popeye's.

I have seen this shit cycle hit repeat for generations, literally.

This sounds harsh. I take no pleasure in saying it. However, it is gleaned from experience, in perhaps the blackest
city in America.

The issue at hand is community, or lack thereof. The results speak for themselves.
It's not really fair to compare immigrants that come over here and do well because they are usually the best and brightest where they are from. For them to be able to even make it into the US is a testament to their intelligence and resources.

They have just as many degenerates, if not more, where they are from. For every Indian doctor, you have 100 poor, uneducated Indians living in the slums.

That's just like if you took a bunch of our best and brightest black people and put them anywhere in the world, we would do good too, just like we do good in the US.
 

gene cisco

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Most of you completely overlook the main reason many people are poor..........capitalism and the poor choices people make.

If you had 100 people in a town and gave them all 100K. In a matter of time some would be completely broke and others would be richer. That's not a conspiracy. That's a people problem. But, we hate to put any blame on the impoverished.

People on this very board were going ape ish because I called out the foolish spending people were doing with their stimulus checks as well as their child tax credits. Until we acknowledge the reality of our situation and fully accept that a general lack of financial literacy plagues our community, we will continue to be the bottom caste.
Ain't no fucking votes in telling the truth. This country offers zero financial education, but they will teach kids to talk about gender and pronouns.

It's just not the impoverished. Give a person 50k a year, they tend to spend damn near all of it. Up that person's salary to 100k, and more than likely they find a way to spend damn near all of it. Bigger home. Foreign car. Consuming more.

We live in a country where even the 'educated' don't have financial education, so what chance do the poor have? People actually have advanced degrees and never learn about money. What hope does the average person with just a high school education have? Most people have to be lead.
 

notreally

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It's not really fair to compare immigrants that come over here and do well because they are usually the best and brightest where they are from. For them to be able to even make it into the US is a testament to their intelligence and resources.

They have just as many degenerates, if not more, where they are from. For every Indian doctor, you have 100 poor, uneducated Indians living in the slums.

That's just like if you took a bunch of our best and brightest black people and put them anywhere in the world, we would do good too, just like we do good in the US.


This is a misconception, used as an excuse time after time after time.

This is not conjecture on my part, nor is it what I heard. I lived there and witnessed it.

They are not wealthy people. If you knew anything about Hamtramck, the place I spoke about,
you would know that it is a lower working class town.

The wealthy Indians, Banglas, and Arabs don't live there, nor do they work there. The wealthy among them
have their own communities.

I have heard the same excuse for many years.

As I said before, 400 plus years is ample time to at least have one's community together, and it just ain't happening.

Every place I have lived, there is an immigrant community that thrives at the expense of the black community.

In Detroit, it is Arabs, specifically, Chaldeans.
In Baltimore, it is Koreans.
In Costa Rica, it is the Chinese.
In Chicago, it is the Italians, and increasingly, Mexicans.

The ugly fact is, African Americans simply do not have their shit together collectively.

Again, I do not say this with glee.

I stand by my previous comment 100 percent.
 

Pack Rat

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hmmm, where I am, the Vietnamese own most of the nail shops, beauty shops, the Indians own most of our subways (fast food) and gas stations. :smh:
Mexicans have the landscaping company's locked down, there are some brothas trying to get in the game tho. And we have a plethora of Chinese restaurants.
 

trappstarr82

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This is a misconception, used as an excuse time after time after time.

This is not conjecture on my part, nor is it what I heard. I lived there and witnessed it.

They are not wealthy people. If you knew anything about Hamtramck, the place I spoke about,
you would know that it is a lower working class town.

The wealthy Indians, Banglas, and Arabs don't live there, nor do they work there. The wealthy among them
have their own communities.

I have heard the same excuse for many years.

As I said before, 400 plus years is ample time to at least have one's community together, and it just ain't happening.

Every place I have lived, there is an immigrant community that thrives at the expense of the black community.

In Detroit, it is Arabs, specifically, Chaldeans.
In Baltimore, it is Koreans.
In Costa Rica, it is the Chinese.
In Chicago, it is the Italians, and increasingly, Mexicans.

The ugly fact is, African Americans simply do not have their shit together collectively.

Again, I do not say this with glee.

I stand by my previous comment 100 percent.
Seems like you agree with what I said in my 2nd paragraph so what is the misconception or the excuse you are referring to?
 

geechiedan

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This is a misconception, used as an excuse time after time after time.

This is not conjecture on my part, nor is it what I heard. I lived there and witnessed it.

They are not wealthy people. If you knew anything about Hamtramck, the place I spoke about,
you would know that it is a lower working class town.

The wealthy Indians, Banglas, and Arabs don't live there, nor do they work there. The wealthy among them
have their own communities.

I have heard the same excuse for many years.

As I said before, 400 plus years is ample time to at least have one's community together, and it just ain't happening.

Every place I have lived, there is an immigrant community that thrives at the expense of the black community.

In Detroit, it is Arabs, specifically, Chaldeans.
In Baltimore, it is Koreans.
In Costa Rica, it is the Chinese.
In Chicago, it is the Italians, and increasingly, Mexicans.

The ugly fact is, African Americans simply do not have their shit together collectively.

Again, I do not say this with glee.

I stand by my previous comment 100 percent.
that one statement ignores america's history and treatment of black americans


AMERICA THE GREAT EXPERIMENT

- Enslaved Africans were brought to the colonies in 1619...

- Between 1680 and 1790 white as a term for racial group is used in legal documents.

- Chattel slavery made permanent and heritable for "Negroes," is instituted by 1749 it also separated Black slaves from European indentured servants.

- The colonies transform into the United States of America in 1776. Despite its lofty ideals the USA is literally born from racism.

- The Civil War abolishes slavery by 1865..With some starts and stops (Black Codes, vagrancy laws etc) between 1865 and 1896 Jim Crow segregation laws form.

- Jim Crow Laws last from 1896 to 1965 when segregation laws were struck down


The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has existed 245 years. Of that,189 of them, the country was decidedly, historically, legally, culturally and undisputedly racist. Now factor in 200 years of slavery before that...If the life of America was an hour on a clock..its only been kinda sorta NOT AS openly racist for like the LAST 10 minutes of that hour. This is historical fact and youre TRYING to compare Black Americans situation to voluntary immigrants as if they're similar. :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
 
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trappstarr82

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that one statement ignores america's history and treatment of black americans


AMERICA THE GREAT EXPERIMENT

- Enslaved Africans were brought to the colonies in 1619...

- Between 1680 and 1790 white as a term for racial group is used in legal documents.

- Chattel slavery is made permanent and heritable for "Negroes," is instituted by 1749 it also separated Black slaves from European indentured servants.

- The colonies transform into the United States of America in 1776. Despite its lofty ideals the USA is literally born from racism.

- The Civil War abolishes slavery by 1865..With some starts and stops (Black Codes, vagrancy laws etc) between 1865 and 1896 Jim Crow segregation laws form.

- Jim Crow Laws last from 1896 to 1965 when segregation laws were struck down


The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has existed 245 years. Of that,189 of them, the country was decidedly, historically, legally, culturally and undisputedly racist. Now factor in 200 years of slavery before that...If the life of America was an hour on a clock..its only been kinda sorta NOT AS openly racist for like the LAST 10 minutes of that hour. This is historical fact and youre TRYING to compare Black Americans situation to voluntary immigrants as if they're similar. :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
1000% undeniable truth.
 

xfactor

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People live to call out foolish spending from Black people. But White people do the exact same thing, and yet somehow they manage to avoid poverty(most of them at least).

I don’t disagree with what you say above. Just saying that poverty among Black people is more about racism than it is about “foolish spending.” Most Americans spend foolishly.
:confused: there are plenty of dirt poor so-called whites. The difference is that they have more generational wealth to pass down and they get more favorable lending and more government benefits. To act like there are not millions of poor white trash is delusional.
 

Tito_Jackson

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People live to call out foolish spending from Black people. But White people do the exact same thing, and yet somehow they manage to avoid poverty(most of them at least).

I don’t disagree with what you say above. Just saying that poverty among Black people is more about racism than it is about “foolish spending.” Most Americans spend foolishly.
To be honest, I don't give a damn about what white people do. A poor man will always have n advantage over a poor black man because it's their system.

Additionally, noone is ignoring racism, but we also can not ignore our contribution to this mess. We love to play the victim and act as though we are without flaws. We have ish that is self inflicted that we can fix if we just put a little effort into you.

Hell, people on this board have access to real credible financial and investment advice, yet getting a mfer to invest $10 in themselves is damn near impossible.

Some people are their own worst enemy.
 

geechiedan

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To be honest, I don't give a damn about what white people do. A poor man will always have n advantage over a poor black man because it's their system.

Additionally, noone is ignoring racism, but we also can not ignore our contribution to this mess. We love to play the victim and act as though we are without flaws. We have ish that is self inflicted that we can fix if we just put a little effort into you.

Hell, people on this board have access to real credible financial and investment advice, yet getting a mfer to invest $10 in themselves is damn near impossible.

Some people are their own worst enemy.
speaking strictly about our existence in America....what are blacks contributions to racism??
 

dHustla

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Most of you completely overlook the main reason many people are poor..........capitalism and the poor choices people make.

If you had 100 people in a town and gave them all 100K. In a matter of time some would be completely broke and others would be richer. That's not a conspiracy. That's a people problem. But, we hate to put any blame on the impoverished.

People on this very board were going ape ish because I called out the foolish spending people were doing with their stimulus checks as well as their child tax credits. Until we acknowledge the reality of our situation and fully accept that a general lack of financial literacy plagues our community, we will continue to be the bottom caste.
And you think thats not by design?

Thats the result of maintaining a people in poverty for generations. Although information is at our fingertips now, opportunities aren't always. There are people whose whole lineage have been living hand to mouth since the 70's, who knows how long before that.

It wasn't until I start making six figures, and executing plans that I start thinking intergenerationally. Some shit its just not practical for me to fix in my generation.
 

dHustla

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We have ish that is self inflicted that we can fix if we just put a little effort into you.
I agree. Let's keep it all in perspective.

Even with the perfect storm of events its still "fighting battles up a steep hill" like Nip say.
 

The Plutonian

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Ice Cube should know this monopoly money system is nothing but a facade. The federal reserve IS NOT controlled by this corporation because it is a PRIVATE owned bank. Take a guess at who owns it.

The first question should be: where is the gold and silver to back the fiat money in circulation?

but the real question to this is how does this corporation make money for the rich out of thin air? Liquidity risk and interest rates will tell you a lot about how crooked this system is.

The other question is what is he as another rich asshole gonna do about it? Less we forget his "Are we there yet movie" Hey, he took a paycheck for crossing over too. What makes him any different now? Man fuck Ice Cube! Excuuuuuuse meeee! Oshea!
 

xfactor

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The other question is what is he as another rich asshole gonna do about it? Less we forget his "Are we there yet movie" Hey, he took a paycheck for crossing over too. What makes him any different now? Man fuck Ice Cube! Excuuuuuuse meeee! Oshea!
I can’t blame him for the problems because he didn’t start them. He was on point with demanding something for our vote but he is talking ignorant about the money system, showing he is a highly paid employee. Doesn’t mean he isn’t for his people but none of these entertainers should be trusted as they are all compromised. All of them.
 

BKF

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This is true but the bigger problem is if out of those same 100 people, you gave 100k to 50 people, and only gave 5k to the other 50 people, who do you feel would do better over time?

Thats pretty much the prevailing issue with black and white inequity in the US. We only got 5k instead of 100k, using your analogy.
Ok but the problem is stagnation. If you sit there waiting for parity, then you are going to fall further behind. So you have to find a way to move from 5k to 50k.
Which means you have to focus on not improvement in the present but in the future that you may not live to see. The system of white supremacy depends on the long haul, and that is why they are tripping about their low birth rate.
Are black folk ready for that kind of focus? As of right now as a whole I don't see it.
 

Tito_Jackson

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And you think thats not by design?

Thats the result of maintaining a people in poverty for generations. Although information is at our fingertips now, opportunities aren't always. There are people whose whole lineage have been living hand to mouth since the 70's, who knows how long before that.

It wasn't until I start making six figures, and executing plans that I start thinking intergenerationally. Some shit its just not practical for me to fix in my generation.
What opportunities are not at our fingertips? Please share.
 

trappstarr82

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Ok but the problem is stagnation. If you sit there waiting for parity, then you are going to fall further behind. So you have to find a way to move from 5k to 50k.
Which means you have to focus on not improvement in the present but in the future that you may not live to see. The system of white supremacy depends on the long haul, and that is why they are tripping about their low birth rate.
Are black folk ready for that kind of focus? As of right now as a whole I don't see it.
The fact of the matter is that a lot of us will just have to get left behind due to ignorance and falling for the traps of white supremacy. Just like in slavery time, you couldn't convince everyone to escape.

The only thing we can do is get with other like minded black people that are interested in building success. I think we are starting to see even more of us getting financially literate than in the past.
 

geechiedan

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None. Because racism is a dynamic of race and power. We do not have the power. Nor do we control how people feel about us.
but this is what you said...
Additionally, noone is ignoring racism, but we also can not ignore our contribution to this mess.
what does that mean?
Ok but the problem is stagnation. If you sit there waiting for parity, then you are going to fall further behind. So you have to find a way to move from 5k to 50k.
Which means you have to focus on not improvement in the present but in the future that you may not live to see. The system of white supremacy depends on the long haul, and that is why they are tripping about their low birth rate.
Are black folk ready for that kind of focus? As of right now as a whole I don't see it.
While Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944, the G.I. Bill 's language did not specifically exclude African-American veterans from its benefits, it was structured in a way that ultimately shut doors for the 1.2 million Black veterans who had bravely served their country during World War II, in segregated ranks. The original GI Bill ended in July 1956. By that time, nearly 8 million World War II veterans had received education or training, and 4.3 million home loans worth $33 billion had been handed out. But most Black veterans had been left behind. As employment, college attendance and wealth surged for whites, disparities with their Black counterparts not only continued but widened. There was, writes Katznelson, “no greater instrument for widening an already huge racial gap in postwar America than the GI Bill.”

black people were never just sitting waiting for anything.. you have to factor in very active ways of excluding and tripping up black folks much it WITH fed/state and local govt being complicit. Things like the GI BILL screw over had huge warping effect in and on the black community.


The fact of the matter is that a lot of us will just have to get left behind due to ignorance and falling for the traps of white supremacy. Just like in slavery time, you couldn't convince everyone to escape.

The only thing we can do is get with other like minded black people that are interested in building success. I think we are starting to see even more of us getting financially literate than in the past.
so you know how to break the spirit of a being? I don't think people really understand the scope and degree of how chattel slavery functioned.

The enslaved Africans were stripped of their identities and called black by their slave owners. In this case Black is a skin color designation that has nothing in terms of culture, language, history etc, you know the things that make a people a people. And that was done on purpose. It's a basic component of how to control a person or people. Any institution that's designed to control people whether it's the military, prison, or slavery the FIRST thing they have to do is strip a persons/peoples identity and individualism away from them and replace it with what YOU want them to identify as. It makes them easier to control. It also makes the psychologically dependent on their captors. Those enslaved Africans were escaping and fighting back everyday. The ones you say couldn't be convinced to escape were the ones who were trying to survive as best they can given the circumstances. Its easy to look back in hindsight and say "all they had to do is...." but you didn't live in the circumstances they lived in. And thats not just slavery times but every era that followed on up to today.
 

trappstarr82

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so you know how to break the spirit of a being? I don't think people really understand the scope and degree of how chattel slavery functioned.

The enslaved Africans were stripped of their identities and called black by their slave owners. In this case Black is a skin color designation that has nothing in terms of culture, language, history etc, you know the things that make a people a people. And that was done on purpose. It's a basic component of how to control a person or people. Any institution that's designed to control people whether it's the military, prison, or slavery the FIRST thing they have to do is strip a persons/peoples identity and individualism away from them and replace it with what YOU want them to identify as. It makes them easier to control. It also makes the psychologically dependent on their captors. Those enslaved Africans were escaping and fighting back everyday. The ones you say couldn't be convinced to escape were the ones who were trying to survive as best they can given the circumstances. Its easy to look back in hindsight and say "all they had to do is...." but you didn't live in the circumstances they lived in. And thats not just slavery times but every era that followed on up to today.
I'm not passing judgment on slaves that didn't want to escape. I know that they were broken thoroughly by white supremacy.

My point was that those same broken people still exist today in a different form and if they don't want to be free, they will just have to be left behind.
 

ronmch20

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Fuck that, what he should be saying is cacs refusal to reparations yet somehow trillions of stimulus fell from the sky

Cube was right to point out that the Fed hypocritically printed an obscene amount of money without inflation worries but as for reparations he could have addressed this nation's refusal to pony up but the fact of the matter is this racist country will never give reparations to the descendants of black slaves. Hell millions of white people don't even want us to be able to vote and the naive among us think they're gonna part with hard cash? It's a pipedream. It would be the morally right thing to do but let's face it this is a morally deficient country led by amoral people. :hmm:
 

donwuan

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This is a misconception, used as an excuse time after time after time.

This is not conjecture on my part, nor is it what I heard. I lived there and witnessed it.

They are not wealthy people. If you knew anything about Hamtramck, the place I spoke about,
you would know that it is a lower working class town.

The wealthy Indians, Banglas, and Arabs don't live there, nor do they work there. The wealthy among them
have their own communities.

I have heard the same excuse for many years.

As I said before, 400 plus years is ample time to at least have one's community together, and it just ain't happening.

Every place I have lived, there is an immigrant community that thrives at the expense of the black community.

In Detroit, it is Arabs, specifically, Chaldeans.
In Baltimore, it is Koreans.
In Costa Rica, it is the Chinese.
In Chicago, it is the Italians, and increasingly, Mexicans.

The ugly fact is, African Americans simply do not have their shit together collectively.

Again, I do not say this with glee.

I stand by my previous comment 100 percent.

I don't think you know our history in Detroit. Every thriving black community was burned down or bull dosed. You can stand by your previous comment but that's exactly the problem with us. So what happened to those Polish immigrates that owned everything in Hamtramck? What happened to the German's that were in Hamtramck before them? What you're seeing is just history repeating itself. Those Indians will not prosper just like those before them didn't. Where are these wealth communities of Arabs and Indians you speak of? Dearborn is not wealthy. Sterling Heights is not wealthy. Please fill me in because I've been here 50 years and have no idea what or where you're talking about,



Detroit's Paradise Valley was full of nightclubs, bars and theaters frequented by Jazz & Blues musicians known locally and around the world. From the 1920s until the 1950s, Hastings Street was a hub for Black musicians to perform, rivaling other places like Harlem and the Southside of Chicago. Jazz greats like Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Cab Calloway, Sammy Davis, Jr. and Duke Ellington were regular guests in Paradise Valley's nightclubs; playing in venues like Jake's, the Paradise Theater, the Tropicana, Club Harlem, the Flame Show Bar, Sportee's Lounge & the Horseshoe Bar.

Though known nationally as a place for Black music and entertainment, Paradise Valley was also a concentrated area of Black entrepreneurship. with dozens of the clubs, speakeasies and theaters owned by Black Detroiters.

When I-375 freeway was built, this area was essentially decimated to make room for the "urban renewal" efforts of the city. Few theaters, clubs, and restaurants remain from this era. One of the last vestiges of Paradise Valley, the Horseshoe Bar at 606 Adams St, came down recently with the construction of Ford Field.


Black Bottom was a predominantly Black neighborhood in Detroit, Michigan demolished for redevelopment in the late 1950s to early 1960s and replaced with the Lafayette Park residential district and a freeway. It was located on Detroit's near east side, bounded by Gratiot Avenue, Brush Street, the Detroit River, and the Grand Trunk railroad tracks.

Though by the 1950s, migration transformed Hastings and St. Antoine Streets into the city's major African-American community of black-owned businesses, social institutions and night clubs, nationally famous for its music scene in Paradise Valley. Hastings Street is also where Aretha Franklin's father, the Reverend C. L. Franklin, first opened his New Bethel Baptist Church. Businesses included ten restaurants, eight grocers, 17 physicians, and six drugstores, Barthwell Drugs being one of the well-known enterprises.

Although condemnation of property began in 1946, the National Housing Act of 1949, then later the 1956 National Highway Act, gave the city the funds to begin an urban renewal project in earnest, replacing Black Bottom and Paradise Valley with the Chrysler Freeway and Lafayette Park, a mixed-income development designed by Ludwig Mies van der Rohe. The east side neighborhood was gone by 1954 though Paradise Valley survived a few years more. Relocation assistance was minimal and many former Black Bottom and Paradise Valley residents were given 30 days notice to vacate. A number of the residents relocated to large public housing projects such as the Brewster-Douglass Housing Projects Homes and Jeffries Homes.


Detroit Riots of 1967

In the sweltering summer of 1967, Detroit’s predominantly African American neighborhood of Virginia Park was a simmering cauldron of racial tension. About 60,000 low-income residents were crammed into the neighborhood’s 460 acres, living mostly in small, sub-divided apartments.

The Uprising of 1967 is also known as the Detroit Rebellion of 1967 and the 12th Street Riot. It began following a police raid on an unlicensed bar, known locally as a “blind pig.” Over the course of five days, the Detroit police and fire departments, the Michigan State Police, the Michigan National Guard, and the US Army were involved in quelling what became the largest civil disturbance of twentieth century America. The crisis resulted in forty-three deaths, hundreds of injuries, almost seventeen hundred fires, and over seven thousand arrests.

Deindustrialization within the city limits took many jobs to outlying communities, even as a number of auto companies went out of business. The east side of Detroit alone lost over 70,000 jobs in the decade following World War II. Construction of the city’s freeways, newer housing, and the prospect of further integration—due to the demolition of the city’s two main black neighborhoods, Black Bottom and Paradise Valley—caused many whites to depart for the suburbs. From 1950 to 1960, Detroit lost almost 20 percent of its population.

RACE RIOT OF 1943

Detroit’s 200,000 black residents were marginalized into small, subdivided apartments that often housed multiple families. They were crammed into 60 square blocks on the city’s east side, an area known as Black Bottom.

Because there was simply no space left to expand upon already existing African American neighborhoods, the city attempted to construct a black housing project in what was otherwise a white neighborhood, though near the predominantly black neighborhood of Conant Gardens. In 1942, a mob of more than one thousand whites, some of whom were armed, lit a cross on fire and angrily picketed the arrival of their African American neighbors.

Black workers faced virulent racism on the job as well. In June of 1943, white workers halted production to protest the promotion of their African American co-workers. Other factories faced habitual slowdowns by bigoted whites who refused to work alongside African Americans. Humiliation and resentment on each side spilled over into all facets of Detroiter’s wartime struggle and by the early 1940s, racially motivated street fights were common. The Ku Klux Klan was active in the region and riots had already broken out in Harlem and Beaumont, Texas.

 
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While Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944, the G.I. Bill 's language did not specifically exclude African-American veterans from its benefits, it was structured in a way that ultimately shut doors for the 1.2 million Black veterans who had bravely served their country during World War II, in segregated ranks. The original GI Bill ended in July 1956. By that time, nearly 8 million World War II veterans had received education or training, and 4.3 million home loans worth $33 billion had been handed out. But most Black veterans had been left behind. As employment, college attendance and wealth surged for whites, disparities with their Black counterparts not only continued but widened. There was, writes Katznelson, “no greater instrument for widening an already huge racial gap in postwar America than the GI Bill.”

black people were never just sitting waiting for anything.. you have to factor in very active ways of excluding and tripping up black folks much it WITH fed/state and local govt being complicit. Things like the GI BILL screw over had huge warping effect in and on the black community.



so you know how to break the spirit of a being? I don't think people really understand the scope and degree of how chattel slavery functioned.

The enslaved Africans were stripped of their identities and called black by their slave owners. In this case Black is a skin color designation that has nothing in terms of culture, language, history etc, you know the things that make a people a people. And that was done on purpose. It's a basic component of how to control a person or people. Any institution that's designed to control people whether it's the military, prison, or slavery the FIRST thing they have to do is strip a persons/peoples identity and individualism away from them and replace it with what YOU want them to identify as. It makes them easier to control. It also makes the psychologically dependent on their captors. Those enslaved Africans were escaping and fighting back everyday. The ones you say couldn't be convinced to escape were the ones who were trying to survive as best they can given the circumstances. Its easy to look back in hindsight and say "all they had to do is...." but you didn't live in the circumstances they lived in. And thats not just slavery times but every era that followed on up to today.
I know all of yhat but I am speaking about present time (right now). Staying stuck on past actions doesn't nothing for the present snd the future. You'll simply stay stuck. Thus the reason people have to find a way to move from 5k to 50k.
 

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Cube was right to point out that the Fed hypocritically printed an obscene amount of money without inflation worries but as for reparations he could have addressed this nation's refusal to pony up but the fact of the matter is this racist country will never give reparations to the descendants of black slaves. Hell millions of white people don't even want us to be able to vote and the naive among us think they're gonna part with hard cash? It's a pipedream. It would be the morally right thing to do but let's face it this is a morally deficient country led by amoral people. :hmm:
Nukka don't deserve no credit,he just basically said what everyone was thinking. He still a MAGA Trumptard
 

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Nukka don't deserve no credit,he just basically said what everyone was thinking. He still a MAGA Trumptard
Cube is not pro Trump or MAGA. If you listen to him explain his position, he wants to get tangibles for black people and when the Trump administration at least entertained some form of reparations, he wanted to see if it was a possibility, even though it would be a long shot.

We need to read past the shiny headlines because most often the headlines are misleading if not down right false.
 
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