Joe Budden podcast done? No Rory or Mal for 2nd straight episode

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Joe stated near the end of last pod he'd sit down and talk with Kai, NOT FOR CONTENT.

He said they could do lunch...etc no mics, no cameras, just men talking. But only Kai. He told Adin to sit his ass down somewhere (and like I said, his money ain't gonna stop some hands if it's really up like how he's talking)....haha
 

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Joe stated near the end of last pod he'd sit down and talk with Kai, NOT FOR CONTENT.

He said they could do lunch...etc no mics, no cameras, just men talking. But only Kai. He told Adin to sit his ass down somewhere (and like I said, his money ain't gonna stop some hands if it's really up like how he's talking)....haha
So he's doing the Joe Budden special when the backlash is more than expected or a third-party checks him behind the scenes. If he's being genuine, that is what he should do as the elder. However, he could have reached out to AK or someone else behind scenes to dead the situation without saying a word to the public. Based off your statement, it comes off like Joe is going to try to say hey I tried, but all Kai cared about was making content. I'm looking at it as similar to the fake apology to Ari Lennox.

Kai seems to be the Kevin Heart of the streaming shit. What I mean is most people look at him as a little brother and he overall comes off as very humble/respectful/harmless, so Joe being Joe and constantly going at him looks wild to alot of people. From Joe, some of it maybe hate, but most of it is performative for the pod which kind of makes it worse.

Not sure if you're saying Joe is talking about fighting Adin, but that kind of proves my original point of going at people he believes to be weak or not connected. I don't know what Adin said, but if you don't see him as a threat why even entertain it on any level. It's not like Adin is going to run up on Joe and Joe's not doing that either.
 

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So he's doing the Joe Budden special when the backlash is more than expected or a third-party checks him behind the scenes. If he's being genuine, that is what he should do as the elder. However, he could have reached out to AK or someone else behind scenes to dead the situation without saying a word to the public. Based off your statement, it comes off like Joe is going to try to say hey I tried, but all Kai cared about was making content. I'm looking at it as similar to the fake apology to Ari Lennox.

Kai seems to be the Kevin Heart of the streaming shit. What I mean is most people look at him as a little brother and he overall comes off as very humble/respectful/harmless, so Joe being Joe and constantly going at him looks wild to alot of people. From Joe, some of it maybe hate, but most of it is performative for the pod which kind of makes it worse.

Not sure if you're saying Joe is talking about fighting Adin, but that kind of proves my original point of going at people he believes to be weak or not connected. I don't know what Adin said, but if you don't see him as a threat why even entertain it on any level. It's not like Adin is going to run up on Joe and Joe's not doing that either.

Heat?

It ain't that deep
 

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It doesn't matter that it was a completely different topic. Joe gave his opinion on a situation involving Adin that had nothing to do with him. In return, Adin did the same thing except his group was attacked. If pod casters were attacked, Joe would do the same just like he does when rappers are attacked.

Speaking on comparing crimes. Joe was over the top with the whole Kai shutting down a major area rant. However, when rappers like Young Thug and others are accused of serious crimes like murder, he and his cohost usual response is we wish them well. Unless im mistaken, non of us believe Thug is innocent. We all know why he does that, but don't poke out your chest because you don't believe certain people can't or won't get you touched and be respectful when trouble may come your way.

Joe gets dismissed all the time by his rap peers as well as the industry at large and he still continues to speak on them. Drake and Logic being the best example.Adin like Joe can speak on whatever he wants especially since his group was targeted. Why is Joe even ranting about Kai's opinion to begin with? It wasn't worth speaking on and it kind of proves the point that Joe may be using their names for clicks. At best, that was for Killer Mike to speak on and he did. Based on Joe's point of view, most of us here aren't allowed to have an opinion on Hip-hop because we aren't artist or in the industry.

We don't know the situation with 21 was for clicks and I'm personally leaning toward it being real based on 21s response. Regardless, Joe put his opinion of Kai and streamers at large out to the public, so your logic would still apply to Joe.

As far as Adin wanting Joe's audience, I can't speak to that. What I know or what has been put out to the public is the deals Adin, Kai and other streamers have gotten in comparison to Joe. I'd think that speaks to their influence or ability to not only get viewers but get them to watch for hours at a time. In my opinion, Joe tried the streamering thing with Flip and so far hasn't returned to it. I could be mistaken, but I'm guessing Joe didn't see the results he wanted and likely no where near Adin or Kai's numbers. The reality is even if Joe has a larger audience he hasn't been able to monetize it like those streamers in terms of third-party investors. Joe was talking shit about advertising only to do the same gambling advertising as others. Clearly, we don't know his deal, but I'd think if it was major we would have heard about like other large podcast/streamer deals.

No, he mentioned streamers when it comes to black culture. The rap category and black muisc at the grammy's.

That shit had nothing to do at all with the white boy.

There's a million streamers, why didn't they speak out?

And Logic and Drake mention Joe all the time, especially Logic.
 

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No, he mentioned streamers when it comes to black culture. The rap category and black muisc at the grammy's.

That shit had nothing to do at all with the white boy.

There's a million streamers, why didn't they speak out?

And Logic and Drake mention Joe all the time, especially Logic.
Did he mention streamers as a whole or not? The focus of his rant is irrelevant and so is the fact that Adin is white. Even bringing race into this is lame shit to begin with. Joe is a rapper speaking for another rapper Killer Mike. Adin is a streamer speaking for another streamer Kai. How many streamers were recently mentioned on the JBP?Adin was and it was recently less than a month. If you don't want the white boy mentioning you, don't mention the white boy. It's not as random as you'll are trying to make it and even if it was Adin is a streamer. Like I said before he's also one of the bigger streamers, so he should be putting his voice out there to speak up for their community as dumb as this is to begin with.

White people should stay out of the discussion as he has a white cohost/engineer on his show and worse a white manager/business partner. Personally I don't care, but the race bait shit from Joe is clown shit under his circumstances. The image or stance Joe tries to put on he should be all black everything.

It's a million rappers how many of them cared to speak on this situation like Joe? Kai gave an opinion like Joe gives opinions or anyone else. Didn't the pod have a discussion around the Taylor Swift vs Beyonce thing and say they weren't familiar with Taylor's music? Exactly what is the difference? Kai wasn't familiar with Killer Mike and felt Travis shold have won. It wasn't worth Joe speaking on to begin with and when you factor in the other negative things Joe has expressed in the past their community is going to take it a way. Having a discussion is one thing, but being extra is another.

If Joe hates Logic as much as he claims, why does he constantly bring him up. Do you feel the need to discuss people you don't fuck with? I'm not aware that Logic brought up Joe in his interview with his father, so why is Joe speaking on it? People are so aware of Joe's issue with Joe and Drake that they look for him to say something anytime they do something and out of his own mouth people reach out to him or send him shit. It gets to the point he goes to other pods and fake tries to avoid discussing them. I'm not going to say it doesn't happen, but I rarely if ever hear about Logic or Drake bringing up Joe unprovoked. My greater point was Joe has an opinion on every and alot of them claim not to fuck with him, yet he still does it.
 

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Did he mention streamers as a whole or not? The focus of his rant is irrelevant and so is the fact that Adin is white. Even bringing race into this is lame shit to begin with. Joe is a rapper speaking for another rapper Killer Mike. Adin is a streamer speaking for another streamer Kai. How many streamers were recently mentioned on the JBP?Adin was and it was recently less than a month. If you don't want the white boy mentioning you, don't mention the white boy. It's not as random as you'll are trying to make it and even if it was Adin is a streamer. Like I said before he's also one of the bigger streamers, so he should be putting his voice out there to speak up for their community as dumb as this is to begin with.

White people should stay out of the discussion as he has a white cohost/engineer on his show and worse a white manager/business partner. Personally I don't care, but the race bait shit from Joe is clown shit under his circumstances. The image or stance Joe tries to put on he should be all black everything.

It's a million rappers how many of them cared to speak on this situation like Joe? Kai gave an opinion like Joe gives opinions or anyone else. Didn't the pod have a discussion around the Taylor Swift vs Beyonce thing and say they weren't familiar with Taylor's music? Exactly what is the difference? Kai wasn't familiar with Killer Mike and felt Travis shold have won. It wasn't worth Joe speaking on to begin with and when you factor in the other negative things Joe has expressed in the past their community is going to take it a way. Having a discussion is one thing, but being extra is another.

If Joe hates Logic as much as he claims, why does he constantly bring him up. Do you feel the need to discuss people you don't fuck with? I'm not aware that Logic brought up Joe in his interview with his father, so why is Joe speaking on it? People are so aware of Joe's issue with Joe and Drake that they look for him to say something anytime they do something and out of his own mouth people reach out to him or send him shit. It gets to the point he goes to other pods and fake tries to avoid discussing them. I'm not going to say it doesn't happen, but I rarely if ever hear about Logic or Drake bringing up Joe unprovoked. My greater point was Joe has an opinion on every and alot of them claim not to fuck with him, yet he still does it.

The focus is relevant

If someone is talking about the coaches and Kyle Shannahan not knowing the rules in reference to the Super Bowl. Should basketball and baseball coaches jump in? No, they're talking about Kyle Shannahan.

He brings up Logic because he keeps doing stupid shit. Did you hear that interaction with his dad? Do you realize Logic brings up Joe in interviews, which Joe normally doesn't respond too.

Some of you are worse than Mal when talking about Joe. It's weird. Do you listen to the pod? If so, why?

You need to take a step back from podcast to type all this shit about Joe Budden. It's fucking entertainment.
 

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The focus is relevant

If someone is talking about the coaches and Kyle Shannahan not knowing the rules in reference to the Super Bowl. Should basketball and baseball coaches jump in? No, they're talking about Kyle Shannahan.

He brings up Logic because he keeps doing stupid shit. Did you hear that interaction with his dad? Do you realize Logic brings up Joe in interviews, which Joe normally doesn't respond too.

Some of you are worse than Mal when talking about Joe. It's weird. Do you listen to the pod? If so, why?

You need to take a step back from podcast to type all this shit about Joe Budden. It's fucking entertainment.
It doesn't matter. High level this is about people being able to have opinions. According to Drake Joe has no business giving his opinion on what it takes to be a successful artist as a failed artist. I disagree with that stance, but using your logic Joe should shut the fuck up. He doesn't have the knowledge or experience compared to Drake right? I know you aren't cosigning that thought.

Kai wasn't attempting to be an expert. In this instance we are talking about taste or interest in an artist and their work. Joe's experience as an artist is irrelevant to someone else's taste in music. Right or wrong Kai can think what he wants.

What Logic said about his father is irrelevant and yes I heard it. Joe's hate for Logic didn't start with that interview. What's the orgin of the disdain? Logic cant rap? He isn't Black enough for Joe? Exactly how is Joe impacted by Logic now or in the past? If Logic puts out an album and Joe gives his opinion on an album, that's different. Discussing Logics behavior with his father is weird considering you claim not to fuck with him.

So because you watch Joe or he's an entertainer, he is beyond criticism? You sound like a fanboy. Watching the pod doesn't mean blindly agreeing with Joe's opinion. My personal opinion of Joe or most entertainers generally doesn't stop me from viewing their product. If anything you maybe overly invested in the pod or Joe. From Joe's comments about Ebro agreeing with him, his current cohost don't fully support his thoughts on Kai, yet you are bringing up Mal? I'm unbiased and you seem to be on Joe's dick.

This isn't even serious, but you can't hide behind this is just entertainment for everything. Did it just being entertainment stop someone from fighting him in a club? If it is just entertainment, why are they afraid to mention certain groups or people for that matter. Again, out of Joe's own mouth he was being extra and the message was lost. His opinion of himself seems to be I could have handled that better, so exactly what are you defending?
 

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So he's doing the Joe Budden special when the backlash is more than expected or a third-party checks him behind the scenes. If he's being genuine, that is what he should do as the elder. However, he could have reached out to AK or someone else behind scenes to dead the situation without saying a word to the public. Based off your statement, it comes off like Joe is going to try to say hey I tried, but all Kai cared about was making content. I'm looking at it as similar to the fake apology to Ari Lennox.

Kai seems to be the Kevin Heart of the streaming shit. What I mean is most people look at him as a little brother and he overall comes off as very humble/respectful/harmless, so Joe being Joe and constantly going at him looks wild to alot of people. From Joe, some of it maybe hate, but most of it is performative for the pod which kind of makes it worse.

Not sure if you're saying Joe is talking about fighting Adin, but that kind of proves my original point of going at people he believes to be weak or not connected. I don't know what Adin said, but if you don't see him as a threat why even entertain it on any level. It's not like Adin is going to run up on Joe and Joe's not doing that either.
classic joe
 

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Honestly I got do much love for dem?

I ain't need this because there is NO WAY for either of them to express their feelings dolo and it don't come out as shade.

I would respect it more if he just said that's my man's for life we had a difference of opinion we taken a break but I pray hopefully one day soon we link back up professionally but personally we always gonna be good.

And leave it right there

WE DO NOT NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING.
 

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It doesn't matter. High level this is about people being able to have opinions. According to Drake Joe has no business giving his opinion on what it takes to be a successful artist as a failed artist. I disagree with that stance, but using your logic Joe should shut the fuck up. He doesn't have the knowledge or experience compared to Drake right? I know you aren't cosigning that thought.

Kai wasn't attempting to be an expert. In this instance we are talking about taste or interest in an artist and their work. Joe's experience as an artist is irrelevant to someone else's taste in music. Right or wrong Kai can think what he wants.

What Logic said about his father is irrelevant and yes I heard it. Joe's hate for Logic didn't start with that interview. What's the orgin of the disdain? Logic cant rap? He isn't Black enough for Joe? Exactly how is Joe impacted by Logic now or in the past? If Logic puts out an album and Joe gives his opinion on an album, that's different. Discussing Logics behavior with his father is weird considering you claim not to fuck with him.

So because you watch Joe or he's an entertainer, he is beyond criticism? You sound like a fanboy. Watching the pod doesn't mean blindly agreeing with Joe's opinion. My personal opinion of Joe or most entertainers generally doesn't stop me from viewing their product. If anything you maybe overly invested in the pod or Joe. From Joe's comments about Ebro agreeing with him, his current cohost don't fully support his thoughts on Kai, yet you are bringing up Mal? I'm unbiased and you seem to be on Joe's dick.

This isn't even serious, but you can't hide behind this is just entertainment for everything. Did it just being entertainment stop someone from fighting him in a club? If it is just entertainment, why are they afraid to mention certain groups or people for that matter. Again, out of Joe's own mouth he was being extra and the message was lost. His opinion of himself seems to be I could have handled that better, so exactly what are you defending?

You typed all of this about Joe Budden. It's rather embarrassing that you care this much and don't even realize it.
 
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