****************Jones vs Miocic******UFC 309******NOV 16th On PPV******World Heavyweight Championship!

Helico-pterFunk

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This fight should have happened years ago



Agreed.

At this point neither guy wants to fight Tom Aspinall either. They know he's the future of the division.

Tough to get a read on Jones too. He's a legend and if not the GOAT, easily Top 3 all-time.

Dominant for years, but didn't look too great vs. Reyes and Santos. And there was over a 3 year break from the Reyes fight to Ciryl Gane in March 2023. And we only saw him for 3 minutes there, as he schooled Gane immediately. Wish we could have seen him show off the full skill set again ...



 

Megatron X

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Jones I believe will beat him. Stipe hasn’t fought for years and got a bad KO from Francis.

Also, I think this Tom Aspinwall character is overrated somewhat. If you can work around his striking, you got him.
 

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Really interesting to see how things have played out for all of them in recent years. Just looking at Wikipedia now ...


Valentina is 1 - 1 - 1 versus Grasso


Usman has 3 straight losses ... 2 to Edwards, and 1 to Chimaev


Jones has always been dominant, but last competed in March 2023, and took 3+ years off before that


Stipe got flatlined by Francis 3.5 years ago, is now 42yo, and went 2-1 vs Cormier in their trilogy


Khabib is retired, and right up there amongst the GOAT / P4P discussion with Jones, GSP, Fedor, and Mighty Mouse


Volkanovski has 3 big wins over Holloway, but 3 losses (2 to Makhachev and 1 to Topuria)


Cejudo has been off & on regarding plans to retire

Amanda Nunes is probably the female GOAT ... she'd only return if they paid her properly to face Harrison in the future. She doesn't need to though ... she has cemented her place. Especially with her dominant title fight wins.


Zhang Weili is fully back on track. The only losses in her career are the 2 setbacks to Rose when she was at her best, and in her debut pro fight which was to someone else none of us have heard of which was 11 years ago. Otherwise it's been all wins in her career - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Weili#Mixed_martial_arts_record


Israel had a 20 and 0 record, but all 4 of his losses have been since 2021. The age and wear and tear have been starting to show, especially due to his decorated kickboxing career. His professional kickboxing / muay thai record on Wiki notes he was 75-5!


 

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Jones I believe will beat him. Stipe hasn’t fought for years and got a bad KO from Francis.

Also, I think this Tom Aspinwall character is overrated somewhat. If you can work around his striking, you got him.
Watered down Brock imo
He can’t wrestle, he’s strong but not impressive
 

Megatron X

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Watered down Brock imo
He can’t wrestle, he’s strong but not impressive
Watch that old fight with him and Andrei Arlovski and you can see Aspinall struggling against a fighter past his prime. Take his striking away or work around it and he’s done.
 
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