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The Academy’s announcement of a Best Popular Film Oscar hints at wider fears of shutting out blockbusters and superhero films: Is Black Panther the reason for the change?

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, best known as the home of the Oscars, have been struggling to find their place in the world for the past decade. For many years, it was common practice for the Academy to reward mainstream blockbuster movies like Star Wars and Jaws alongside the expected critical favorites like Annie Hall.

Related: Screen Rant's Thoughts On The Oscars & The New "Popular Film" Category

As Hollywood’s priorities changed and the Oscars became a means for indie films to get good publicity, the Academy focused less on populist movies, and so the gap between critical and commercial hits seemed to grow only wider. Audiences weren’t happy.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE OSCARS AND THE NEW BEST POPULAR FILM CATEGORY

After facing criticisms that they were shutting out more populist fare, the Academy expanded the Best Picture category to ten nominees (later changed again to be up to ten nominees based on voting) in hopes of allowing for more general audience friendly movies. That move came after a backlash from the lack of love for The Dark Knight, easily one of the best-reviewed films of 2008 yet nowhere to be seen in Best Picture.

While that worked for a while, the Academy fell back into their old ways and faced a new issue over the lack of diversity in both their nominated films and the voters awarding them. The grassroots movement of #OscarsSoWhite gained steam in the industry and became a problem the Academy simply couldn’t ignore. That led to a much-needed diversification of their membership, which has already made an impact through the Oscars, as seen by winners like Get Out and Moonlight.

Yet the Oscars ceremony itself has been losing viewers year after year, with the 2018 ceremony being the lowest-rated yet. Generally speaking, the average movie-goer who sees five or six films a year may not care all that much about the sort of films that win Oscars. Such movies may not even be available to view in their location thanks to the increasingly archaic limited screening model.

Related: Hollywood's Awards Season Elitism is Slowly Killing the Oscars

Crucially, the Academy still remains highly allergic to acknowledging blockbuster and high-concept genre movies. Superhero films are typically ignored, relegated to special effects categories and not much else, regardless of how critically beloved they are. This seems to have weighed heavily on the Academy’s mind, and their solution has been to announce the creation of a Best Popular Film category.

It has not yet been revealed how a movie will be eligible for a Best Popular Film nomination, but the general expectation has been that this category will exist for blockbusters, franchise movies, and otherwise commercially successful movies that don’t fit the typical Oscars mold. This would have been a bad idea in any year, but it feels notable that this has been introduced in 2018 when there is real and growing Oscar talk around a major superhero movie: Black Panther.

THE ACADEMY WANTS AND NEEDS TO ACKNOWLEDGE BLACK PANTHER
By whatever metric you measure success, Black Panther is one of the best movies of 2018. It’s currently the second highest grossing film of the year, with $1.347bn in the bank. It’s one of only three films to pass $700m domestically at the box office. The film has a 97% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, making it the 9th highest ranked movie of the year. Oscar talk has been swirling around Ryan Coogler’s entry into the Marvel Cinematic Universe since its premiere, and both Disney and Marvel have expressed sentiments in favor of mounting major awards campaigns for the movie. As we head into what is widely considered Oscar season and the expected front-runners premiere on the festival circuit, competition for Best Picture has gotten busier. That seems to have spooked the Academy.

Related: Why Don't Superhero Movies Win Oscars?

The Academy clearly want to appeal to wider audiences. It’s required of them if they want to retain their relevance in an age of expanded universes, Netflix and YouTube. They need people to tune into the ceremony itself, which is their biggest event of the year and one that brings major advertising revenue.

It makes sense on the simplest level to make room for films like Black Panther and give a space to those blockbusters that bring in billions of dollars. Black Panther isn’t just a critical and commercial hit: It’s a cultural phenomenon. That’s worth acknowledging on the prestigious scale the Oscars offer. However, is making a whole new category the right way to do this?

A BEST POPULAR FILM CATEGORY COULD HURT BLACK PANTHER

The risk with a category like this, to the side of Best Picture and marketed specifically as a populist move, is that deserving films will be sidelined as good but not good enough for the true top prize. Black Panther, which is one of the best-reviewed films of the year, could be shoved into the popcorn category at the expense of being nominated for Best Picture. It could also be seen as a catch-all nomination: Give it Best Popular Film and you don’t have to bother nominating anything else connected to the movie, such as Ryan Coogler for Best Director, Michael B. Jordan for Best Supporting Actor, the writers for Best Adapted Screenplay, and so on.

The obvious issue with this set-up is that it implicitly undermines films that are in any way popular, and we still have no idea how the Academy will specifically define a popular film in this context. It could mean almost anything, from the little indie movie that made bank (Get Out) to the family-friendly cartoon (Moana) to the fluffy popcorn fare of the Summer (Mamma Mia – Here We Go Again!). If a film makes over a certain amount of money, does it immediately become popular and therefore in a different category of excellence from the Best Picture nominees?

Related: New Oscar Categories We Want To See More Than "Popular Film"

Ultimately, it’s hard to overlook the cynicism and elitism of a decision like this. It instantly reinforces the outdated notion that something can’t be critically worthy if it’s a mainstream success. Regardless of the earnestness behind such a decision, introducing a whole new category so the Academy won’t have to worry about angering people is a cop-out and it diminishes everyone involved. Clearly, they’re concerned that Black Panther may not make the cut, but rather than waiting to see what happens, they’re putting a safety net in place that’s riddled with holes. The assumption is that fans of Black Panther will be fine with any old award the film gets, even one as blatantly condescending as this. As evidenced by the reactions on social media, this wouldn’t be the case. Audiences know when they’re being talked down to and so do creators.

THE ACADEMY SHOULD EVOLVE WITH AUDIENCES

Blockbusters are the bedrock of Hollywood, whether the Academy likes it or not. Audiences love them, but they’ve also become genuine critical hits over the years. Films like Logan (itself an Oscar nominee), Wonder Woman, and Black Panther are helping to shift perceptions of the genre and redefine it for a new age. It’s not just superhero movies leading the charge either. Think of rousing big-budget action epics like Mad Max: Fury Road (which was nominated for ten Oscars, including Best Picture) or this year’s Mission: Impossible – Fallout, a film as well reviewed as Black Panther. Plenty of critics will have these films on their Top 10 lists of 2018, as will general audiences, yet we’ve all but accepted that most of these films aren’t going to get love beyond that at the Oscars because they aren’t perceived as prestigious. Instead of confronting that bias, the Academy has decided to introduce a category that further strengthens it.

A Best Popular Film category only reinforces the divide between critical and commercial success. It insists that the two concepts are mutually exclusive and that no amount of reviews or audience love can make something like Black Panther worthy of the same level of love as, say, the latest Winston Churchill biopic. If films like Black Panther are left to a side category, what’s to stop Best Picture from becoming clogged up with the same middlebrow prestige fare that audiences are so bored with in the first place?

The thing about Black Panther’s Oscar chances could be completely legitimate if this is something Marvel is willing to campaign behind and ride a wave of cultural impact all the way to the Kodak Theatre. Yet the Academy aren’t even going to give it a chance to prove itself without throwing in a condescending back-up option to prevent an anger that they’ve only exacerbated with this announcement. It's disrespect disguised as its opposite. They haven’t given their younger and more diverse membership the opportunity to vote for the kind of films that wouldn’t usually make the cut, and that’s a major disappointment given how much progress the Academy had made in recent years. Black Panther deserves better, but so do audiences and Hollywood at large.
 

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Are The Oscars Scared Of Disrespecting Black Panther?
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The Academy’s announcement of a Best Popular Film Oscar hints at wider fears of shutting out blockbusters and superhero films: Is Black Panther the reason for the change?

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, best known as the home of the Oscars, have been struggling to find their place in the world for the past decade. For many years, it was common practice for the Academy to reward mainstream blockbuster movies like Star Wars and Jaws alongside the expected critical favorites like Annie Hall.

Related: Screen Rant's Thoughts On The Oscars & The New "Popular Film" Category

As Hollywood’s priorities changed and the Oscars became a means for indie films to get good publicity, the Academy focused less on populist movies, and so the gap between critical and commercial hits seemed to grow only wider. Audiences weren’t happy.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE OSCARS AND THE NEW BEST POPULAR FILM CATEGORY

After facing criticisms that they were shutting out more populist fare, the Academy expanded the Best Picture category to ten nominees (later changed again to be up to ten nominees based on voting) in hopes of allowing for more general audience friendly movies. That move came after a backlash from the lack of love for The Dark Knight, easily one of the best-reviewed films of 2008 yet nowhere to be seen in Best Picture.

While that worked for a while, the Academy fell back into their old ways and faced a new issue over the lack of diversity in both their nominated films and the voters awarding them. The grassroots movement of #OscarsSoWhite gained steam in the industry and became a problem the Academy simply couldn’t ignore. That led to a much-needed diversification of their membership, which has already made an impact through the Oscars, as seen by winners like Get Out and Moonlight.

Yet the Oscars ceremony itself has been losing viewers year after year, with the 2018 ceremony being the lowest-rated yet. Generally speaking, the average movie-goer who sees five or six films a year may not care all that much about the sort of films that win Oscars. Such movies may not even be available to view in their location thanks to the increasingly archaic limited screening model.

Related: Hollywood's Awards Season Elitism is Slowly Killing the Oscars

Crucially, the Academy still remains highly allergic to acknowledging blockbuster and high-concept genre movies. Superhero films are typically ignored, relegated to special effects categories and not much else, regardless of how critically beloved they are. This seems to have weighed heavily on the Academy’s mind, and their solution has been to announce the creation of a Best Popular Film category.

It has not yet been revealed how a movie will be eligible for a Best Popular Film nomination, but the general expectation has been that this category will exist for blockbusters, franchise movies, and otherwise commercially successful movies that don’t fit the typical Oscars mold. This would have been a bad idea in any year, but it feels notable that this has been introduced in 2018 when there is real and growing Oscar talk around a major superhero movie: Black Panther.

THE ACADEMY WANTS AND NEEDS TO ACKNOWLEDGE BLACK PANTHER
By whatever metric you measure success, Black Panther is one of the best movies of 2018. It’s currently the second highest grossing film of the year, with $1.347bn in the bank. It’s one of only three films to pass $700m domestically at the box office. The film has a 97% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, making it the 9th highest ranked movie of the year. Oscar talk has been swirling around Ryan Coogler’s entry into the Marvel Cinematic Universe since its premiere, and both Disney and Marvel have expressed sentiments in favor of mounting major awards campaigns for the movie. As we head into what is widely considered Oscar season and the expected front-runners premiere on the festival circuit, competition for Best Picture has gotten busier. That seems to have spooked the Academy.

Related: Why Don't Superhero Movies Win Oscars?

The Academy clearly want to appeal to wider audiences. It’s required of them if they want to retain their relevance in an age of expanded universes, Netflix and YouTube. They need people to tune into the ceremony itself, which is their biggest event of the year and one that brings major advertising revenue.

It makes sense on the simplest level to make room for films like Black Panther and give a space to those blockbusters that bring in billions of dollars. Black Panther isn’t just a critical and commercial hit: It’s a cultural phenomenon. That’s worth acknowledging on the prestigious scale the Oscars offer. However, is making a whole new category the right way to do this?

A BEST POPULAR FILM CATEGORY COULD HURT BLACK PANTHER

The risk with a category like this, to the side of Best Picture and marketed specifically as a populist move, is that deserving films will be sidelined as good but not good enough for the true top prize. Black Panther, which is one of the best-reviewed films of the year, could be shoved into the popcorn category at the expense of being nominated for Best Picture. It could also be seen as a catch-all nomination: Give it Best Popular Film and you don’t have to bother nominating anything else connected to the movie, such as Ryan Coogler for Best Director, Michael B. Jordan for Best Supporting Actor, the writers for Best Adapted Screenplay, and so on.

The obvious issue with this set-up is that it implicitly undermines films that are in any way popular, and we still have no idea how the Academy will specifically define a popular film in this context. It could mean almost anything, from the little indie movie that made bank (Get Out) to the family-friendly cartoon (Moana) to the fluffy popcorn fare of the Summer (Mamma Mia – Here We Go Again!). If a film makes over a certain amount of money, does it immediately become popular and therefore in a different category of excellence from the Best Picture nominees?

Related: New Oscar Categories We Want To See More Than "Popular Film"

Ultimately, it’s hard to overlook the cynicism and elitism of a decision like this. It instantly reinforces the outdated notion that something can’t be critically worthy if it’s a mainstream success. Regardless of the earnestness behind such a decision, introducing a whole new category so the Academy won’t have to worry about angering people is a cop-out and it diminishes everyone involved. Clearly, they’re concerned that Black Panther may not make the cut, but rather than waiting to see what happens, they’re putting a safety net in place that’s riddled with holes. The assumption is that fans of Black Panther will be fine with any old award the film gets, even one as blatantly condescending as this. As evidenced by the reactions on social media, this wouldn’t be the case. Audiences know when they’re being talked down to and so do creators.

THE ACADEMY SHOULD EVOLVE WITH AUDIENCES

Blockbusters are the bedrock of Hollywood, whether the Academy likes it or not. Audiences love them, but they’ve also become genuine critical hits over the years. Films like Logan (itself an Oscar nominee), Wonder Woman, and Black Panther are helping to shift perceptions of the genre and redefine it for a new age. It’s not just superhero movies leading the charge either. Think of rousing big-budget action epics like Mad Max: Fury Road (which was nominated for ten Oscars, including Best Picture) or this year’s Mission: Impossible – Fallout, a film as well reviewed as Black Panther. Plenty of critics will have these films on their Top 10 lists of 2018, as will general audiences, yet we’ve all but accepted that most of these films aren’t going to get love beyond that at the Oscars because they aren’t perceived as prestigious. Instead of confronting that bias, the Academy has decided to introduce a category that further strengthens it.

A Best Popular Film category only reinforces the divide between critical and commercial success. It insists that the two concepts are mutually exclusive and that no amount of reviews or audience love can make something like Black Panther worthy of the same level of love as, say, the latest Winston Churchill biopic. If films like Black Panther are left to a side category, what’s to stop Best Picture from becoming clogged up with the same middlebrow prestige fare that audiences are so bored with in the first place?

The thing about Black Panther’s Oscar chances could be completely legitimate if this is something Marvel is willing to campaign behind and ride a wave of cultural impact all the way to the Kodak Theatre. Yet the Academy aren’t even going to give it a chance to prove itself without throwing in a condescending back-up option to prevent an anger that they’ve only exacerbated with this announcement. It's disrespect disguised as its opposite. They haven’t given their younger and more diverse membership the opportunity to vote for the kind of films that wouldn’t usually make the cut, and that’s a major disappointment given how much progress the Academy had made in recent years. Black Panther deserves better, but so do audiences and Hollywood at large.

I'm glad you posted this.
Because as soon as that new "Popular Film" category was announced,
There was no other reason because of "BLACK PANTHER".
A film that shocked practically EVERYONE with its box office and critical success.

It's like The Academy is saying that the film isn't even legitimate of "Best Picture".
One could argue due to its majority BLACK aspect or the Comic Book aspect.
But really...
You don't need to be a Rocket Scientist to figure out which.
This article expresses exactly what I was thinking for the last few days.

"WONDER WOMAN" got totally fucked over by The Oscars.
So if they think this bogus category is going to placate Black Folks and Comic Book fans...
 

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"WONDER WOMAN" got totally fucked over by The Oscars.
name a movie nominated that year that Wonder Woman did anything better than...
fans just lose real perspective & objectivity

there was NOTHING Oscar worthy in Wonder Woman...
not even costume design cinematography or sfx
if they nominated WW -they would have to give an award to Michael Keaton for Homecoming.
Are The Oscars Scared Of Disrespecting Black Panther?
lets put this in perspective
Every problem I see in Panther would have been eliminated with more budget and longer run time
- but just watching the films as released - consider:

Black Panther vs Infinity War

with exception of costume design and soundtrack and a few other technical categories also best supporting actor for Jordan and Srkis & best supporting actress for Guria and Wright...
where else is Panther more deserving of Oscar nods over Infinity War?

Also with this new category keep in mind there are some monstrous film makers dropping "popular" projects this fall and the machine building behind Jordan Peele might push hard for Spike Lee's Black Clansman
 

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name a movie nominated that year that Wonder Woman did anything better than...
fans just lose real perspective & objectivity

there was NOTHING Oscar worthy in Wonder Woman...
not even costume design cinematography or sfx
if they nominated WW -they would have to give an award to Michael Keaton for Homecoming.
lets put this in perspective
Every problem I see in Panther would have been eliminated with more budget and longer run time
- but just watching the films as released - consider:

Black Panther vs Infinity War

with exception of costume design and soundtrack and a few other technical categories also best supporting actor for Jordan and Srkis & best supporting actress for Guria and Wright...
where else is Panther more deserving of Oscar nods over Infinity War?

Also with this new category keep in mind there are some monstrous film makers dropping "popular" projects this fall and the machine building behind Jordan Peele might push hard for Spike Lee's Black Clansman

But cuz...

What you named as "exceptions"?

Are very very significant awards for black panther.

If they got both supporting the technicals WINS?

I'd be ok with a best picture or best screenplay nomination...

And even this new popular category

Only as a win there though.

But before I really go crazy...

I want to know specifically what the f*ck the academy has in mind for this new category cause all this conjecture is a waste of time till then.

I already broke down where I think BP needs definite nominations

I want wins...

I need someone to tell me 4 movies BETTER than BP this year.
 

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But cuz...

What you named as "exceptions"?

Are very very significant awards for black panther.

If they got both supporting the technicals WINS?

I'd be ok with a best picture or best screenplay nomination...

And even this new popular category

Only as a win there though.

But before I really go crazy...

I want to know specifically what the f*ck the academy has in mind for this new category cause all this conjecture is a waste of time till then.

I already broke down where I think BP needs definite nominations

I want wins...

I need someone to tell me 4 movies BETTER than BP this year.
even with those exceptions BP is not a better film than Infinity War
BP will get nominated for costume
but with inconsistent sfx it should not get a best picture nom nor cinematography
Screenplay is a long shot because past nominees had more density in dialogue etc

I haven't Black Klansman yet but there is already smoke there
IMO there were 2 or 3 better films than BP this year so far- but with exception of Infinity War the rest are passion projects / art house

Keep in mind award season really starts in October, if this is a weak year in film releases - you might get your wish
and if Fantastic Beast 2 is better than 1 - forget about BP winning the pop category or those technicals
 

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even with those exceptions BP is not a better film than Infinity War
BP will get nominated for costume
but with inconsistent sfx it should not get a best picture nom nor cinematography
Screenplay is a long shot because past nominees had more density in dialogue etc

I haven't Black Klansman yet but there is already smoke there
IMO there were 2 or 3 better films than BP this year so far- but with exception of Infinity War the rest are passion projects / art house

Keep in mind award season really starts in October, if this is a weak year in film releases - you might get your wish
and if Fantastic Beast 2 is better than 1 - forget about BP winning the pop category or those technicals

Why you ALWAYS gotta be the voice of reason, fam?

Ok I keep hearing the effects in BP were weak...

I disagree kinda.

If no one MENTIONED IT?

I honestly wouldn't have noticed

Cause the chase scene to me? Was iconic.

And helped define the character

The club fight and that fight for the throne?

I thought for what they had? They crafted a masterwork.

And it was the rewatchability that makes me think a writing and directing nom is deserved.

I need to see infinity war again uninterrupted to say its BETTER than BP.

But I think a Josh Brolin nomination would be well deserved.

But IW cheating. How you putting the entire Wu Tang vs. Nas?

Yeah I KNOW some big guns are coming but if moonlight shape of water lala land 3 signs type stuff is up next...

The typical oscar stuff which apparently is what is killing the telecast?

Is the best they got to NOT award BP?

They done.

ABC gonna spaz out.
 

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Marvel's Black Panther Arrives On Netflix Next Month

After a box office run that saw the film gross an astonishing $1.344 billion worldwide, Marvel and Disney’s Black Panther will make its Netflix debut in September. Black Panther will however be one of the last Disney movies released on Netflix as the studio prepares to launch its own subscription streaming service.

A phenomenon upon its release earlier this year, Black Panther’s impact was felt well beyond the box office, as the movie became as much a cultural cause as a blockbuster. Due in large part to the film’s cultural impact, many have predicted Black Panther will have a real chance to contend for this year’s Oscar for Best Picture, becoming the rare superhero film to receive such recognition. Perhaps at least partially in response to the buzz over Black Panther getting an Oscar nod, the Academy recently announced the creation of a new Best Popular Film category, with an eye toward giving more audience-friendly fare a chance to win gold during awards season (and hopefully draw more viewers to the Oscars ceremony).

Related: The Highest-Grossing Movies Of 2018 (So Far)

With Black Panther garnering Oscar buzz as well as basking in the glow of a massive box office run, Netflix subscribers will get a chance to watch - or re-watch - the film beginning on September 4, as revealed by Netflix Twitter account Strong Black Lead. Black Pantherjoins Thor: Ragnarok, Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and Captain America: Civil War on Netflix’s currently available line-up of MCU films. But as previously mentioned, with Disney looking to launch its own streaming service, there’s no telling how long the above titles will remain available to Netflix users.


According to previous reports, Disney’s deal with Netflix will cover MCU films through Ant-Man and the Wasp, but will end with next year’s Captain Marvel. This means 2018’s other MCU blockbuster, the universe-shaking Avengers: Infinity War, will also become available on Netflix at some point likely late in the year. It’s possible that around Christmas time families will be able to gather for a truly awesome Netflix double-feature of Black Pantherand Infinity War.

But folks who swear by Netflix shouldn’t get too attached to the MCU movies available on the service. Naturally, Disney will want all their huge titles available to make their streaming service as loaded as possible with desirable content, and of course they won’t want their competitors being able to show the same movies. Unfortunately for Disney, their other huge franchise Star Wars will not be fully available when the streaming service launches, due to issues relating to TV and streaming rights. Given the lack of Star Wars, Disney will be leaning even more heavily on Black Panther and the rest of their MCU films to give their new service a leg-up.
 

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Academy Members Already Discussing Scrapping Controversial Popular Movie Oscar
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According to a recent report, Academy members have said that they wouldn’t be surprised if the Oscars Popular Filmcategory gets scrapped completely. In early August, The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences revealed their plans to instate a new category that would honor “popular films” at the 2019 Oscars. The Academy has been tight-lipped regarding specific details about the new category, but it seems to be tailored for big summer blockbusters and superhero films.

Though the Academy might have had good intentions, the “Popular Film” category wasn’t well received by the public. Many outlets and people on social media have called the "Popular Film" award an insult, while others claim it’s simply the Academy's a feeble attempt to boost dwindling ratings. Whatever the case, the category has become extremely controversial. The Academy hasn’t officially responded to the backlash; however, several Academy members recently shared that they wouldn’t be surprised if the new award gets scrapped.

Related: We Break Down Black Panther's Oscars 2019 Chances

The LA Times recently released an article detailing Black Panther’s hunt for a Best Picture nomination at the 2019 Oscars. In the article, they reference the new Popular Film category as a wildcard that could hurt the film’s hopes for a Best Picture nod. However, many Academy members that they spoke to shared their opinion on whether or not the new award would even be included in future ceremonies. The excerpt from the article reads as follows: "Several academy members say they wouldn’t be surprised if the academy backtracks and delays presenting the award this year or scraps it altogether."



While the Academy hasn’t officially commented on the matter, the above excerpt is very intriguing. By now, the Academy has certainly heard all the complaints surrounding the new category and seem to be debating whether to move forward as planned. Which makes complete sense, since the idea of a Popular Film category is completely divisive and problematic. On one hand, it would be a nice change of pace to see more mainstream films included in future Oscar ceremonies. On the other hand, the whole award could be seen as a consolation prize. If genuinely award worthy films like Black Panther get snubbed for Best Picture, but get placed in the popular film category, it seems like the Academy is just judging films based on genre rather than content.


Apart from the new Popular Film category, the Academy has struggled to understand the current status of film culture. A few years ago, the Oscars were slammed for not being inclusive; however, they have taken steps to rectify that by including more films starring and directed by people of color. Now they face the issue of genre bias by excluding horror, science fiction and superhero films – with a few exceptions. The two problems aren’t comparative when it comes to social importance, though it does speak to how the Academy needs to evolve. Hopefully, the Academy will act accordingly in the face of public concern and start judging the content and importance of a film regardless of what genre it happens to be in.
 

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We Break Down Black Panther's Oscars 2019 Chances
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We're mere days away from the 2018 Oscars, and already the film industry is gearing up for next year's race. Awards campaigning is a year-round commitment in Hollywood, now more so than ever, as the decades-long assumed rules of the system have completely changed - which could mean that Black Panther is in with a shot at next year's awards.

This time last year, if you had told any awards prognosticator that one of the front-runners for Best Picture would be a low-budget satirical horror about race and the hypocrisies of white liberalism - one released in the supposed box office desert that is February, and written and directed by a debut filmmaker who was one half of Key & Peele - you would have been laughed out of the room. Now, Get Out isn’t just the film to root for: It’s helped to shift everything we know about the madness of the Oscar season. Add to that a Best Adapted Screenplay nomination for Logan – the first superhero film to do so – and it seems like everything we knew about Oscars could be changing.

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BLACK PANTHER HAS CHANGED THE SUPERHERO GAME

As of the writing of this piece, the latest film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe has made close to $728m worldwide in just under two weeks. It’s received near universal acclaim, landing a “Certified Fresh” Rotten Tomatoes score of 97%. Ryan Coogler’s masterful adaptation of the Black Panther character isn’t just a critical and commercial smash hit: It’s a cultural moment whose influence will be felt long after the movie has left multiplexes. It doesn’t seem unfeasible that such a film, so beloved and impactful, may stick around long enough to garner some legitimate awards love come the end of 2018. As early as it may seem for us to even be talking about this, the chances are that the executives at Disney have been asking themselves the same question. Why not push Black Panther as a genuine Oscar contender?


The long-accepted status quo of the Academy Awards is that big-budget summer blockbusters don’t win Oscars. The assumption that they are not and cannot be viewed as “prestigious” remains in place, despite countless examples to the contrary. There are “Oscar films” – serious dramas, often period pieces, full of big acting and noble intentions – and then there are the movies for the masses, the ones designed to entertain but never invite consideration of cinematic legitimacy. This wasn’t always the case.

WHY SUPERHERO MOVIES STRUGGLE AT THE OSCARS

Once upon a time, Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Star Wars were all Best Picture nominees, and it wasn’t unusual for them to be considered alongside Barry Lyndon, Chariots of Fire and Annie Hall. Various forces led to the increasing division between “Oscar bait” and the Lucas-Spielberg pioneered blockbuster film-making. A big reason such films stopped being considered for awards in the ways they used to be is that studios no longer needed promotional boosts like the ones the Academy Awards provided. Star Wars would make money regardless of whether or not it got a Best Picture nomination. Smaller films, more adult-oriented dramas without that international reach, did still desire that push. Studios didn't need to put money behind getting the latest Indiana Jones movie award nominations. That cash could be better served in reaching international markets. Generally speaking, a film's prestige isn't what brings in audiences to the latest multi-million dollar special-effects heavy explosion fest.





This continued well into the mid-2000s, with obvious exceptions like Titanic and The Lord of the Rings, but it wasn’t until the Academy widened the Best Picture category to 10 potential nominees that mainstream blockbuster fare started to be recognized. Inceptiongot a Best Picture nomination, as did Mad Max: Fury Road and Gravity, among others. Most of these films didn’t go home empty handed, particularly in technical categories, but the “bigger” awards eluded them. Their achievements as dazzling spectacles would be rewarded, but not viewed as an overall package of film-making excellence in the way more Oscar friendly movies are. Sure, Mad Max: Fury Road can sweep the technical categories, but you always knew it would never win Best Picture.



Amst this incremental change, there remained a growing gap between the prestigious norm and the new forces of blockbuster cinema: Superhero films didn’t make the cut. It's a repeat of the previous generation in that regard - the next Avengers movie is easily going to make a billion dollars, and it doesn't matter if it is seen as a good film in the eyes of 6000 or so Academy members. It doesn't help that good old fashioned snobbery has kept genre cinema out of the running with the Oscars for decades. Horror, sci-fi, fantasy, and even comedy struggle with this group of voters. Add in lots of special effects and it becomes easy for them to be written off as mere popcorn fare. As those movies have grown in both popularity and quality, it seems inevitable that one will land a Best Picture nomination one day. Even the Academy can't ignore this. Right now, Black Panther feels like the most likely option, and deservedly so.



Cinema is different now, but so is the Academy. After the push back to the institution’s glaring lack of diversity, inspired by the #OscarsSoWhite campaign, they announced plans to double their membership’s female and people of color numbers by 2020. The first fruits of that efforts seemed evident in last year’s Oscars, as Moonlight surprised all predictions to win Best Picture. A 2016 boost in membership numbers saw 683 new additions to their ranks: 46% of them were women, and 41% were people of color. We've no idea how they voted, obviously, but it's not hard to imagine that such a change to the old white male demographics of the Academy had a measurable influence on the awards themselves. These are voters who aren’t as averse to recognizing the merits of superhero cinema like their elders, particularly one with a majority black cast and creative team.


We Break Down Black Panther's Oscars 2019 Chances


WHAT AWARDS COULD BLACK PANTHER WIN?

The Academy is younger now, less white and less male, and their tastes are different to their predecessors. We see that in this year’s nominees. A recent piece by Vultureinterviewed new Academy members on their feelings over the 2018 batch of nominations, and it’s Get Out that seems to have inspired most of them. One anonymous voter asked about the exclusion of Wonder Woman, a hotly hyped film that was also a cultural milestone of 2017 and had a major awards push behind it, yet it failed to land a single nomination. The absence of Wonder Woman is something that feels glaring in the context of discussing Black Panther – if that movie of the moment couldn’t get in, why would this one? – but it’s worth remembering that the latter was more strongly received critically than the former.

Black Panther definitely has strong chances of awards acclaim in various categories. Costume designer Ruth E. Carter has received universal acclaim for her work on the film, and she's already been nominated for Best Costume Design in the past thanks to her work on Malcolm X and Amistad. Cinematographer Rachel Morrison just made history by becoming the first woman to be nominated in the Best Cinematography category for Mudbound, and her work in Black Panther has been equally as acclaimed. Superhero films are more likely to be found in the special effects category, and it would be a deserved nomination to see this film repeat that. This year, Logan landed a Best Adapted Screenplay nomination, which presented major change in the way the Academy sees superhero films. The screenplay by director Coogler and Joe Robert Cole could easily be pushed for consideration next year too. It's certainly good enough and avoids many of the structural pitfalls superhero films are prone to.


CAN BLACK PANTHER RUN AN OSCARS RACE?

Talking about its Best Picture and Best Director chances this early in the year has its problems, mainly that we’ve no idea who the competition is. It could be a crowded year for the category or it could empty up enough to make Black Panther’s chances even better. A lot of this will be dependent on if Disney give it a proper awards push. They’ve seemed hesitant to do this with their major movies over the past few years, except in those tech categories. Even when Star Wars: The Last Jedi got rave reviews and had real potential for an awards run, they seemed to hold off on doing so outside of technical categories.



That could change with Black Panther. Here is a film that not only cost a little more than their typical Marvel movie, but they also put a lot into its marketing, to ensure that its presence couldn't be missed. Couple that financial venture with the massive payoffs, and it would seem like a good investment to keep it going into awards season. Disney have the money, the clout and the fan support to pull it off. A Best Picture Oscar nomination for a superhero movie would be the cherry on top of the cake of their continuing worldwide domination.


Black Panther doesn’t necessarily need awards. It already has record breaking box office numbers, critical adoration and wildly enthusiastic fans to its name, and that doesn’t even include the sheer cultural impact it’s made in such a short amount of time. By all measurements of success, Black Panther is one. Yet it seems like this block we have in terms of cinema – the idea that the biggest, most popular films in the world can never be viewed in terms of prestige or quality – remains in place.

It’s time the Academy caught up on this front, and this would be the perfect – and well deserved – film to do that with. It’s not set in stone, but the Oscar game has changed a lot over the past couple of years, and Black Panther being a top awards winner is, delightfully, more likely than ever.
 

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It came out today here in UK. Couldn't go to see it at midnight. I wanted to watch it via BGOL Movies but thought why not?

Well well well.....as African, I'd say that I've never seen anything like it. Its the best ever film I've seen. I won't spoil it but I'd give it 10/10

I only wish it was longer and I'm sure BP 2 is in the works

And for Wakanda? well, I wish to tell you that it exists in real world and I've been there several times and will be going there next month. That country is DRCongo!

After watching this film one is bound to ask so many questions; socially, politically and economically On economic front, one has to ask how do we politically empower African (some identify themselves as blacks) communities?

On matters of democracy, meritocracy or is the solution routed deeper in African history and culture (such as Wakanda)? How do we reverse the socio-economic inequality facing African people in the 21st Century? How do we support youth enterprise projects despite obstacles-to term finance and commercial markets closed to new businesses started by African or people of or African origin? In East Africa, the entire region is being held hostage by the European Union which is forcing the East African regional block to sign Free trade Agreement which will give access to EU products to East Africa while restricting East African products into EU markets....

In regards to culture, Philosophy and Ideology, anyone with African heart and African mind cant watch Black Panther without asking himself as to what are the core foundations of all African culture? how do we re-connect African or black people with their own culture after centuries of cultural disinheritance and western influence and interference? As a matter of fact, should we? Now in Africa, we have everything that the west has via cable (yes DSTV/M-NET has all the junk from the west).

I hope this film will influence us to discuss, challenge and debate the traditions, ethics, history, and merits of Africentric thought as it relates to African society. Furthermore, one would ask are there primary principles that authenticate and cement African ideology? Are there any redundant traditional philosophical belief (s) that remain rooted in stratagem defined as a response to the unfair trade practices, oppression of people of black people in the US as opposed to self determination?

Then there's the issue of leadership. From rebellion to independence, from physical enslavement to economic apartheid in both Africa and diaspora. Leadership from African context would be defined as any self-determining African who has deliberately worked to achieve progressive spiritual, social, political, economic, cultural for African/black. This was introduced under President Nyerere of Tanzania under the name Ujamaa ( Swahili for African Socialism). Though it failed its impact is there to see. Basically, this means the person has selflessly sacrificed their own economic , independence , stability and often liberty to achieve uncompromised change towards equality and justice for African/black people.

Their stories are often hidden, distorted or perverted by a Eurocentric media, I can't blame them because each has to look after his own and that's why I'm huge proponent of using enemies tactics to defeat them.

Black Panther as much as its a work of fiction, it seeks to reverse that historic injustice and
I strongly recommend anyone who can , to watch it.

Maybe something good might come out of this

In swahili we say, Msikose Uhondo huu....na asiye na mwana aelekee jiwe

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Chadwick Boseman Wants Best Picture Oscar For Black Panther, Not Popular Film


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Actor Chadwick Boseman says he wants Black Panther to win the Best Picture Oscar, not the Popular Film award. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences added the "outstanding achievement in popular film" category this year, but have yet to announce the criteria. Nobody knows how nominees will be decided, or whether or not it's an insult to be recognized in this new category. Still, Boseman has made it clear that he has a certain preference when it comes to his film Black Panther.

Many would argue that Ryan Coogler’s Black Panther is the most popular film of 2018 and perhaps even the most popular film in the MCU, breaking box office records throughout its theatrical run. The film inspired a huge cultural movement around Wakanda and all that the hero Black Panther represents, not only in the United States, but around the world. It would make sense, then, that many would think of Black Panther when the Academy announced its plans for its newest popular film category this summer. And for the first time, Marvel Studios is putting together a serious awards campaign in an attempt to get Black Panther the accolades it deserves.

Related: Are The Oscars Scared of Disrespecting Black Panther?

But according to Black Panther’s lead actor Chadwick Boseman in an interview with THR, the film is Best Picture material only. The actor explained, “We don't know what it [the new prize] is, so I don't know whether to be happy about it or not. What I can say is that there's no campaign [that we are mounting] for popular film; like, if there's a campaign, it's for best picture, and that's all there is to it.” Later on in the interview, Boseman further spoke to why in his mind, Black Panther should only be considered for the Best Picture category.

“What we did was very difficult. We created a world, we created a culture ... we had to create a religion, a spirituality, a politics; we had to create an accent; we had to pull from different cultures to create clothing styles and hair styles. It's very much like a period piece. ... So, as far as that's concerned, I dare any movie to try to compare to the [level of] difficulty of this one. And the fact that so many people liked it — if you just say it's [merely] popular, that's elitist.

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The film industry reacted violently to the Academy’s plans for the new category. Many think negatively of the popular film award, arguing that it is an insult to audiences and filmmakers alike and that the move reflects the Academy’s attempts to cater to popular audiences and drive viewership to its televised awards ceremony, which has seen a marked decline in viewers over the years. Others, such as Mark Wahlberg or Jason Blum, have made efforts to openly support the category and urge others not to judge it too quickly. The conversation has grown so heated within the industry that the Academy is already considering scrapping the plans for the new category completely.

Ever since plans for the popular film award was announced, everybody’s attention turned to Black Panther, a movie that many believe would be a shoo-in for a nomination and win in the category. But as Boseman’s comments point out, a lot went into this film that some Academy voters might push aside as a “simple” popular comic book flick. The issue also raises the question – even if Black Panther was the most popular film of the year, does that mean it is undeserving of the Best Picture award?

Black Panther sparked important cultural and political discussions after its release due to its illumination of certain social issues. Now, it is at the center of an entirely new debate: the politics of Hollywood’s awards season. If the Academy decides to keep its new category in “outstanding achievement in popular film”, there’s no doubt that it will be very interesting watching what films get nominated for which categories and who the winner of this brand new category will end up being – and perhaps most importantly, what exactly that win will mean for the film industry as a whole moving into the future.
 

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military deployment and collateral damage... he was spec ops / black ops - so a lot of spy shit and wet work

it takes dead bodies secrets and manipulation to build / recruit a network and to get to the right contacts that put him on / vouch for him with Klaw


I still think that Killmonger and Zemo could've been in cahoots. Their motives weren't very dissimilar. Maybe they met in Sokovia when Killmonger was working with the CIA. Wouldn't shock me at all is Killmonger was behind Crossbones stealing the bio-weapon at the beginning of Captain America:Civil War. To flush out the Wakandans and cause trouble in the Avengers ranks. Remember, Killmonger was trained in counter-insrugency. If he could work with Klaue as a means to an end, he could work with Zemo.
 

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Killmonger was flawed as most villains are but his heart was in the right place for his people and he had more extreme methods to achieve his goals and wasn't afraid to crack more than a few eggs to achieve it. lol That's why I say earlier in my post that I believe Killmonger could've been more reasonable considering his background but his character serves it's purpose and I'm fine with that.

But peep this bills.

Here's where I fault Black Panther, but maybe this is a argument against the writing more so than the character himself.

Why T'Challa leader of Wakanda nation the most technological advanced nation in Africa could find a way to work with the U.S. government the same government that is oppressing people of color in communities Killmonger came from and other around the globe. But couldn't find a diplomatic way to do this WITH Killmonger and instead opted for multiculturalism outreach working with the U.S. government offering them their technology? What kind of message does that send?


See, I took it that while Wakanda was coming out of the shadows, they weren't portraying themselves publicly to be more of a world power than the most affluent Caribbean or African country. Sort of how every one knows(knew?) that Alfred Pennyworth(Batman's butler) was the Wayne family's butler for decades, but who in the general public really knew that old cat was a bd motherfucker. I still think Wakanda planned to come out of the shadows, but hide in plain sight. Surely they must havr some bullshit crop they can use as an exporting front.
 

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He's known some of these things since civil war. Maybe you should watch both movies again. Listen to the conversation in the casino. Closely.

And they didn't take him to the hospital because he would have died. They put their tech in him to keep him alive. Take him somewhere outside of Wakanda and they find it.

He didn't have knowledge of everything, but he did know some stuff. He didn't know how much vibranium they really had, but he knew they weren't what they were claiming to be.


Ross, unlike the other Ross, Thundebolt Ross, doesn't appear to be a dick. It was clear to me that he would lie to protect some of the Wakandan secrets.
 

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I still think that Killmonger and Zemo could've been in cahoots. Their motives weren't very dissimilar. Maybe they met in Sokovia when Killmonger was working with the CIA. Wouldn't shock me at all is Killmonger was behind Crossbones stealing the bio-weapon at the beginning of Captain America:Civil War. To flush out the Wakandans and cause trouble in the Avengers ranks. Remember, Killmonger was trained in counter-insrugency. If he could work with Klaue as a means to an end, he could work with Zemo.

The only reason this makes sense is because Killmonger knows T'Chaka killed his father so he was going to get back him at some point. What did Zemo have against T'Chaka, he could have sent that explosion off at any time. I don't think its that deep, but if they ever wanted to go down that rabbit hole..they definitely could and I still think they could bring Kilmonger back at some point..
 
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