Just watched BLACK PANTHER and.......
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You might be right.
But that's not the first time Marvel has done something like that tho.
Someone could make the same argument from the other side, if you look at...
Thor 2: The Dark World
Marvel cast 2 black guys in the same movie.
One was a good guy. One was a bad guy.
Idriss Elba as Heimdall
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Algrim/Kurse
Just saying.
nice one but the history of tokenism isn't the same on both sides since the addition of nonwhites to a predominately white cast film is a choice whereas adding whites to a POC cast film is basically a necessity.
Coogler used him to get clowned on more than one occasion so he was still useful
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'Black Panther' Composer Scored a 4-Hour Cut of the Movie
Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images (Goransson); Courtesy of Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
'Black Panther' (Inset: Ludwig Goransson)
crossing $500 million globally.
But before all the accolades, the composer felt a lot of pressure after Coogler invited him to join the project.
"I was incredibly excited as it was a dream of mine to score a superhero movie," Goransson told Heat Vision by phone during a break from producing the new Childish Gambino album with Donald Glover. "I also felt incredible pressure to pay homage to African culture and its traditional music. It’s not lost on me that I’m a Swedish guy from one of the coldest countries in the world."
Goransson grew up in Sweden, where he studied music from an early age and first stepped foot in the United States in 2007, when he met Coogler at USC. He spent months researching African tribal music for Black Panther, and praised generations of Africans for their dedication in maintaining their musical heritage.
“African tribes have different music for hundreds of different ceremonies created over 700 years ago. These specific rhythms have survived due to bloodline traditions. They have individuals known as Griots, which means storyteller," he said. "It’s a profession that you’re born into… a family of musicians. Which gives the music so much more meaning.”
Coogler pushed Goransson to use as many African sounds as possible in the score. Goransson was able to find instruments that had never been heard in a blockbuster movie like this one.
“I traveled to a library in South Africa called ILAM [International Library of African Music], which has a collection of about 500 different instruments that don’t really exist anymore. To be able to go there, record the instruments and use them in the movie… it was an incredible opportunity," he said.
Goransson reflected on his growing relationship with both Coogler and Jordan over their three films together. Their sense of trust and camaraderie has led to some incredible behind-the-scenes moments, which in turn strengthened the final product.
“Having a great relationship with Ryan means I’m able to start on the film’s score very early. I went to West Africa and South Africa before they started shooting, just to do research," he said. "When I came up with Killmonger’s theme, I hired a great fula player to record it. I was able to send all those recordings to Michael B., which helped him prepare for the role," he said.
Courtesy of Ludwig Goransson
Amadou Ba (left) and Ludwig Goransson playing fula flute.
Coogler works without a temp score, meaning that Goransson has no point of reference when he’s writing the film’s music. (Many filmmakers begin editing a movie with temporary music in place and remove it later — a practice composers largely despise.) Goransson loves this freedom, which is rare in the blockbuster studio system.
“I remember the first director’s cut was four hours long, but I already had a lot of material written and recorded. So, I actually scored the four-hour cut of the film. Which is really great.”
Courtesy of Ludwig Goransson
Recording vocals for the Black Panther score.
Goransson stepped away from the tribal drumming and utilized strings to highlight the strong emotions surrounding T’Challa’s first visit to the valley of the dead. The new king sees his father for the first time since his death in Captain America Civil War.
“When I read the dialogue between T’Challa and his father, it was so emotional to me. I wanted to bring that out in the instrumentation. A tiny piece of that theme can be heard in Killmonger’s theme. It’s all related in a way, just as they are related by blood," said the composer.
Goransson is open to more superhero work outside the Black Panther series. He also hopes to hear his Wakanda cues in Avengers: Infinity War.
Courtesy of Ludwig Goransson
Recording talking drums for the Black Panther score.
“I would love to do more superhero work, as a young film composer that is one of the things you dream of… superhero themes really resonate with audiences. I don’t know what Alan [Silvestri] is doing musically with the Black Panther and Wakanda sequences in Infinity War, but I hope the character has a big presence in the movie and they use his theme," he said.
BLACK PANTHER
Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images (Goransson); Courtesy of Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
'Black Panther' (Inset: Ludwig Goransson)
crossing $500 million globally.
But before all the accolades, the composer felt a lot of pressure after Coogler invited him to join the project.
"I was incredibly excited as it was a dream of mine to score a superhero movie," Goransson told Heat Vision by phone during a break from producing the new Childish Gambino album with Donald Glover. "I also felt incredible pressure to pay homage to African culture and its traditional music. It’s not lost on me that I’m a Swedish guy from one of the coldest countries in the world."
Goransson grew up in Sweden, where he studied music from an early age and first stepped foot in the United States in 2007, when he met Coogler at USC. He spent months researching African tribal music for Black Panther, and praised generations of Africans for their dedication in maintaining their musical heritage.
“African tribes have different music for hundreds of different ceremonies created over 700 years ago. These specific rhythms have survived due to bloodline traditions. They have individuals known as Griots, which means storyteller," he said. "It’s a profession that you’re born into… a family of musicians. Which gives the music so much more meaning.”
Coogler pushed Goransson to use as many African sounds as possible in the score. Goransson was able to find instruments that had never been heard in a blockbuster movie like this one.
“I traveled to a library in South Africa called ILAM [International Library of African Music], which has a collection of about 500 different instruments that don’t really exist anymore. To be able to go there, record the instruments and use them in the movie… it was an incredible opportunity," he said.
Goransson reflected on his growing relationship with both Coogler and Jordan over their three films together. Their sense of trust and camaraderie has led to some incredible behind-the-scenes moments, which in turn strengthened the final product.
“Having a great relationship with Ryan means I’m able to start on the film’s score very early. I went to West Africa and South Africa before they started shooting, just to do research," he said. "When I came up with Killmonger’s theme, I hired a great fula player to record it. I was able to send all those recordings to Michael B., which helped him prepare for the role," he said.
Courtesy of Ludwig Goransson
Amadou Ba (left) and Ludwig Goransson playing fula flute.
Coogler works without a temp score, meaning that Goransson has no point of reference when he’s writing the film’s music. (Many filmmakers begin editing a movie with temporary music in place and remove it later — a practice composers largely despise.) Goransson loves this freedom, which is rare in the blockbuster studio system.
“I remember the first director’s cut was four hours long, but I already had a lot of material written and recorded. So, I actually scored the four-hour cut of the film. Which is really great.”
Courtesy of Ludwig Goransson
Recording vocals for the Black Panther score.
Goransson stepped away from the tribal drumming and utilized strings to highlight the strong emotions surrounding T’Challa’s first visit to the valley of the dead. The new king sees his father for the first time since his death in Captain America Civil War.
“When I read the dialogue between T’Challa and his father, it was so emotional to me. I wanted to bring that out in the instrumentation. A tiny piece of that theme can be heard in Killmonger’s theme. It’s all related in a way, just as they are related by blood," said the composer.
Goransson is open to more superhero work outside the Black Panther series. He also hopes to hear his Wakanda cues in Avengers: Infinity War.
Courtesy of Ludwig Goransson
Recording talking drums for the Black Panther score.
“I would love to do more superhero work, as a young film composer that is one of the things you dream of… superhero themes really resonate with audiences. I don’t know what Alan [Silvestri] is doing musically with the Black Panther and Wakanda sequences in Infinity War, but I hope the character has a big presence in the movie and they use his theme," he said.
BLACK PANTHER
'Black Panther' Composer Scored a 4-Hour Cut of the Movie
Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images (Goransson); Courtesy of Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
'Black Panther' (Inset: Ludwig Goransson)
crossing $500 million globally.
But before all the accolades, the composer felt a lot of pressure after Coogler invited him to join the project.
"I was incredibly excited as it was a dream of mine to score a superhero movie," Goransson told Heat Vision by phone during a break from producing the new Childish Gambino album with Donald Glover. "I also felt incredible pressure to pay homage to African culture and its traditional music. It’s not lost on me that I’m a Swedish guy from one of the coldest countries in the world."
Goransson grew up in Sweden, where he studied music from an early age and first stepped foot in the United States in 2007, when he met Coogler at USC. He spent months researching African tribal music for Black Panther, and praised generations of Africans for their dedication in maintaining their musical heritage.
“African tribes have different music for hundreds of different ceremonies created over 700 years ago. These specific rhythms have survived due to bloodline traditions. They have individuals known as Griots, which means storyteller," he said. "It’s a profession that you’re born into… a family of musicians. Which gives the music so much more meaning.”
Coogler pushed Goransson to use as many African sounds as possible in the score. Goransson was able to find instruments that had never been heard in a blockbuster movie like this one.
“I traveled to a library in South Africa called ILAM [International Library of African Music], which has a collection of about 500 different instruments that don’t really exist anymore. To be able to go there, record the instruments and use them in the movie… it was an incredible opportunity," he said.
Goransson reflected on his growing relationship with both Coogler and Jordan over their three films together. Their sense of trust and camaraderie has led to some incredible behind-the-scenes moments, which in turn strengthened the final product.
“Having a great relationship with Ryan means I’m able to start on the film’s score very early. I went to West Africa and South Africa before they started shooting, just to do research," he said. "When I came up with Killmonger’s theme, I hired a great fula player to record it. I was able to send all those recordings to Michael B., which helped him prepare for the role," he said.
Courtesy of Ludwig Goransson
Amadou Ba (left) and Ludwig Goransson playing fula flute.
Coogler works without a temp score, meaning that Goransson has no point of reference when he’s writing the film’s music. (Many filmmakers begin editing a movie with temporary music in place and remove it later — a practice composers largely despise.) Goransson loves this freedom, which is rare in the blockbuster studio system.
“I remember the first director’s cut was four hours long, but I already had a lot of material written and recorded. So, I actually scored the four-hour cut of the film. Which is really great.”
Courtesy of Ludwig Goransson
Recording vocals for the Black Panther score.
Goransson stepped away from the tribal drumming and utilized strings to highlight the strong emotions surrounding T’Challa’s first visit to the valley of the dead. The new king sees his father for the first time since his death in Captain America Civil War.
“When I read the dialogue between T’Challa and his father, it was so emotional to me. I wanted to bring that out in the instrumentation. A tiny piece of that theme can be heard in Killmonger’s theme. It’s all related in a way, just as they are related by blood," said the composer.
Goransson is open to more superhero work outside the Black Panther series. He also hopes to hear his Wakanda cues in Avengers: Infinity War.
Courtesy of Ludwig Goransson
Recording talking drums for the Black Panther score.
“I would love to do more superhero work, as a young film composer that is one of the things you dream of… superhero themes really resonate with audiences. I don’t know what Alan [Silvestri] is doing musically with the Black Panther and Wakanda sequences in Infinity War, but I hope the character has a big presence in the movie and they use his theme," he said.
BLACK PANTHER
guess quincy jones wasn't available
Just came home watching it.....Shuri is my new favorite character in t MCU.Lupita was looking sexy ass fuck in the movie.
Michael B Jordan killed it also. I like Killmonger more than Loki......
Michael B Jordan killed it also. I like Killmonger more than Loki......
Yo, Angie Hill repped Wakanda to the FULLEST. Face painting, salutes... I hope she won that fight. I'll be watching her.
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Marc Bernardin has a genius idea
guess quincy jones wasn't available
He wasn't.
And also this is the guy he's been working with his entire film career across all movies.
keep trying.
she could absolutely be iron man since i believe fully tony is going to die in infinity wars. this is not a spoiler and it is not comic related. he's run his course, he's introduced spider man and everyone else nobody wants another solo movie he's gotten older in the mcu it makes sense.
Baby girl stole my heart and it hit 700+ milli this weekend, the road to a billi continues!!!!Just came home watching it.....Shuri is my new favorite character in t MCU.Lupita was looking sexy ass fuck in the movie.
Michael B Jordan killed it also. I like Killmonger more than Loki......
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel2017b.htm
130 years later and feminists still on the same bullshit
Propz to her, i missed her fight and caught the end of it.
First Sagat, now Black Panther, she's my new favorite MMA fighter.
Nah.....Shuri shouldn't be the next Iron Man.....she should be Shuri or the next Black Panther. If they want to replace Iron Man like how they did in the comics then introduce Riri to the MCU. Her character was also a genius which is how Tony Stark found her.
We can have two genius Black women. We got two genius white dudes with Stark and Banner.
The difference is the difference in marketing. If y'all remember they were releasing trailers and teasers for Justice League befor W Woman even dropped. Warner Brothers didn' rreally put any marketing behind WW. Compare that to BP where you had trailers just for that movie, toys coming out, pop up bars etc etc. Marvel was ALL IN when it came to BP and Warner Brothers was assuming WW would flop and that women wouldn't see that movie.....but they did.
Also Black Panther is a better movie than Wonder Women. Not saying WW was bad, cause it' n I enjoyed it, but BP is a better movie with a more compelling story.
