Schoolyard rules...
bullies know who they can bully.
Kendrick Lamar disses Drake & J Cole on Metro Boomin & Futures Album/ Rick Ross Responds/ Kanye Responds/Kendrick Responds 4X / Drake Responds 3X
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bullies know who they can bully.
The song that really got my attention and I remember got actual radio play and djs and girls etc attention? Award shows and finally got him attention outside Jay Z cosign and mixtapes?
Was All I Want Is You and Can't get enough.
That got his production respect and broke his boring label.
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Damn it really is a cold world.
adult owls really have no natural predators...
Besides snakes.
That's a free bar Aubrey
Thank me later.
You know what, I think this is a VALID question... because most of his hits of late are FEATURES...
That Esmarelda Spaulding diss was COMPLETELY uncalled for... had a lot of people upset with him for that 1
Drake DOES respond and hands out disses on a regular basis. He just does it in his own way and always has. Sometimes he feels motivated to do more like he did with Push and especially Kanye. But artists as big as him aren't always going to feel pressed the way some hip hop heads think he should.
He went the extra mile with Kanye because he had a personal relationship with him. Drake looked up to and was influenced by Kanye and was hurt by his actions. A few times.
He didn't know Common or Push so he didn't have a deep hatred for them or was emotionally invested in their beefs.
Well now he does hate Pusha but we understand why
Common got moist over Serena and he eventually admitted that he was wrong.
But like you said, this "Bro just stop".
I'm saying man. I wasn't trying to disrespect Cole, just didn't think "Hits" when his name's mentioned.
He's talented and makes good music, but the words "Hits" was mentioned so I asked.
EXACTLY. Kanye completely betrayed their friendship by telling Push what he knew after Drake did alot to help Kanye. So it's completely understandable why Kanye got that soul smoldering smackdown. That boy ain't been right since.
Yo I FORGOT!!!!
Exactly what I was talking about. I'm surprised Aubrey has been given so many passes for the girl dissing.
People like to use the argument that Drake's L didn't affect his record sales...
Was it supposed to?
Did Ether slow Jay's record sales or diminish him in Hip Hop history?
No it didn't. He took the L and kept it movin just like Drake did.
Where did I say he doesn't respond?
Your response doesn't fit what I wrote at all I think it was meant for someone else
Unless this was some type of Drake level subliminal
Then in that case?
Well done
EXACTLY. Kanye completely betrayed their friendship by telling Push what he knew after Drake did alot to help Kanye. So it's completely understandable why Kanye got that soul smoldering smackdown. That boy ain't been right since.
Kanye did a lot of fouls shit. Told Drake that they're issues were squashed and then backtracked.
He got deserved what he got from Drake.
True.. And I would ask the same question here as well. How big was the L that Jay took? It depends on your perspective. In the big scheme of things it may not have been a major loss. But that L is there regardless of the impact it may or may not have had on his career.
The L was big enough to have Jay whimpering on the radio
But nobody thinks about it just like nobody thinks about Drake's.
Nah bro...I was speaking on the whole competition aspect of your point about getting respect from your peers. I'm pointing out that Drake competes but in his own way and wont always be a diss record for a single rapper. That's all.
He felt the need to make a RECORD with the dude. Oh..the L is real. Ain't no doubt.The L was big enough to have Jay whimpering on the radio
But nobody thinks about it just like nobody thinks about Drake's.
NOW YOU BRING UP AM INTERESTING POINT!!!
A battle (win or competitive exchange) USUALLY or I should say is supposed to have a serious financial effect.
LL did effect Kool. KRS did effect Shan.
Foxy and Kim benefitted.
Eiht and Quik benefitted
Maybe Hammer was hurt by all the backlash? But I think he just expired.
Biggie and Wu benefitted
You could argue Blueprint 2 underperformed because of Jay previous sales record but I disagree. The album was a little bloated. And still had bog singles.
Nas always gets a pass because he straddled the line perfect between pop and street. So his sales are not as important as his reputation.
Biggie hurt Kwame's LIFE with that one line.
Pac and Biggie sold MORE records because of the beef.
Drake sold MORE after every battle.
I thing Pusha probably gained MORE fans but he also has Kanye and a ton of features.
Gunna is a certified snitch dissed by everyone and outsold them all.
So I think your right...
Nicki is fine. Megan, Cardi, Latto, Ice Spice, City Girls are all fine sales and fans wise.
While losing a battle doesn't necessarily HELP. Reputation in hip hop USED to be important.
I don't think it matters.
Meek Mill is kinda an outlier.
You gotta give Drake credit for that.
MC Hammer shot his own self in the foot by blowing through too much money at one time. Doing his height no one wasn’t touching him. Now you could talk shit about him, but you wasn’t talking shit in Oakland about him that’s what damn sure…you had to do it from the outside.
It was a fair point.
Have you ever heard a Cole record played randomly at a wedding, bbq, cookout, party, or club?
And I'm a Cole defender.
DAMN RIGHT
Yeah the L was definitely real!
No you couldn’t talk shit about him anywhere. He had niggas wait for Ice Cube outside of Roscoe’s down in LA and ran up on him for the true to the game video. Cube pissed his pants. He also confronted Redman out in New York and several others.
I still don't understand who is questioning Aubrey competitive Spirit?
Drake been battling since his mixtape days.
He ain't special in that regard he is legit MC to be respected. He worked damn hard to get to this spot. He returned shots from Kanye AND Hov.
What he did to Meek should be taught in marketing and business classes.
I posted all that in real time on that back to back thread.
It was brilliant. He had fortune 500 companies and SNL and day time talk shows discussing how he destroyed Meek.
Dudes better not act like that wasn't a major turning point in the creation of 6 god.
If Drake really wants to engage? He got the fire power.
Doesn't mean he will win.
Just means he can.
But Kung Fu ain't Meek. He better be mindful of that.
And K Dot got a damn crew of highly trained assassins with him.
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EXACTLY. Kanye completely betrayed their friendship by telling Push what he knew after Drake did alot to help Kanye. So it's completely understandable why Kanye got that soul smoldering smackdown. That boy ain't been right since.
Kanye at the time had said he didn’t tell Pusha anything (why he later apologized, I don't know, maybe he got a call from J Prince)
But Pusha out of his own mouth said Kanye didn't tell him anything. IIRC Pusha also said something to the effect of his issues are separate from their beef, cuz they really love/ respect each other and can be friends and cool later. But has no reason to ever be cool with Drake.
Pusha stated 40 was pillow talking all the business..... I haven't seen 40 nor Drake refute that claim.....at all.
Yeah it's easy to think Ye was dirty macking, (and given his mental issues and recent behavior) but I gotta take Pusha at his word. He hasn't given me a reason to doubt him.
^^^^
co sign all that...
But I also know enough that Push would never give up the real source of the leak.
Pusha going full out of war. True or not Push had that man doubting and questioning everyone in the OVO circle.
So it's a win win win.
Sidebar... I used to not believe Drake and Push couldn't be cool because Drake ADMIRED Pusha. No exaggeration. People forget Drizzy a real fan of this hip hop thing. But again Drake like to throw girls and wives in his bars a lot. And Push LOVE his wife and to him Drake crossed a line. I used to think it was just an excuse but Push seemed to hold that position amd even his brother said the same.
Yeah people forgot that Drake loved the clipse and had Malice on a track on his 2nd mixtape back in 2007 the "do what you do" remix
Niggas favorite rapper was Phonte for crying out loud lol...the kid was a backpacker and a true lover/student that's why all the ghostwriting talk makes me laugh
Bro Drake bought an autographed Pusha T mic at auction in real life. (If I'm not mistaken)
I think there ain't nothing more to say
so we giving Drake as much time as he wants to respond Jada?
@REDLINE @Tdot_firestarta @keone
We have to give EVERYONE the same guidelines apparently.
It's only fair.
Sidebar... so if drake doesn't respond till summer or fall? It's fine?
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Niggas hate Drake because he’s light skinned. It’s the Steph Curry, Klay Thompson syndrome. The whole light skinned niggas are soft bullshit.
I do believe that plays a part
But Drake also was smart enough to weaponize and monetize his light skin to target women and white folk, and corporate America. And avoid social issues for the most part.
So it's all fair