Kendrick Lamar disses Drake & J Cole on Metro Boomin & Futures Album/ Rick Ross Responds/ Kanye Responds/Kendrick Responds 4X / Drake Responds 3X
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Nobody was as “popular “ as Drake. I wouldn’t say kdot is more popular now because of the beef. I will say people are fickle and probably think that though…
Before they get deleted - some already been - go see what members were not such big fans but now suddenly loving K.
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That's the issue in general when music isn't a talent show, but a popularity contest. There's no reason Sexy Red should b making more money and doing more shows than Rapsody or Little Simz, but it's a popularity contest. And that shit is fickle. One minute you're on top getting phone calls from and doing shows with the top artists in the game, the next they won't even return your call.
But that is with EVERYTHING
All of entertainment is that.
And as much as we want to pretend pro sports has become that to. Analytics has made us find a way to hype mediocre players. Modern media can destroy the best player career by creating false narratives.
And we have seen amd heard horrible artists in every genre be FORCED on us.
And hip hop especially is lax on protecting its borders. Letting white folk cone in use hip hop to become popular then promptly sh*t on it.
That is why from day one when dudes tried to make this battle between drake and Kendrick DEEP and CULTURAL I called bullsh*t.
Because these so called fans and hip hop media do not CARE. And that is why the Party Die record is being basically ignored for its REAL CONTENT. It's was supposed to part 2 of the culture war to save hip hop. But ain't nobody here to free no slaves and stop this party.
Imma take this point by point.
"But that is with EVERYTHING"
- That is with EVERYTHING. No argument there.
"All of entertainment is that."
- Yep. There's a reason Reesa Teesa got signed to a major Agency for telling that awful story on Tiktok when good writers can't even get meetings. That jawn got millions of views. And after the movie comes out, and CAA can't make anymore money off her, they'll drop her ass with no waning. No more party invites, no more red carpets. See ya later, bye! That's the game, as fucked up as it is.
"And as much as we want to pretend pro sports has become that to. Analytics has made us find a way to hype mediocre players. Modern media can destroy the best player career by creating false narratives."
- Don't get me started on sports analytics. A bunch of dorks on TV and the internet who never had the talent or balls to play the game second guessing experienced coaches who actually played the sport and understand the nuances.
"And hip hop especially is lax on protecting its borders. Letting white folk cone in use hip hop to become popular then promptly sh*t on it."
- Hate to make it seem like I'm picking on women here but Sexy Red and Ice Spice are prime examples of this. They were getting clowned on Tiktok and IG for their respective stupid songs about booty hole being brown and being from the Bronx so I know you're dirty. Next thing you know, those songs have millions of views and they're on stage at Rolling Loud with zero stage presence and artist development. I guess Trinidad James would be a good example of this too. First time I heard that "Pop a molly" song, folks were clowning it. Next thing you know, it's huge. But where is he now?
"That is why from day one when dudes tried to make this battle between drake and Kendrick DEEP and CULTURAL I called bullsh*t."
- And this is why the debate continues, because the average Drake fan and Kendrick fan are having two separate arguments. I'd say most Dot fans (prior to the new wave of fans) really enjoyed the message behind the music. Focused more on the bars than normal. Drake definitely has fans who enjoy his lyrics, (we can't lie like homie ain't great with the double entendres and subs) but a lot of his base just love the vibes. And neither side is wrong for what and how they consume, but seem to be hypercritical of the other side.
"Because these so called fans and hip hop media do not CARE. And that is why the Party Die record is being basically ignored for its REAL CONTENT. It's was supposed to part 2 of the culture war to save hip hop. But ain't nobody here to free no slaves and stop this party."
- Again, I'm not sure what folks expected. The song was never designed to be a panacea for a faltering industry. It's just an artist venting, no different than Jay Z's "Death of Autotune." Folks will always wanna "Party and Bullshit" as The Last Poets said. But if we can figure out a way to have a healthy balance of frivolity and focus, I think we'll be in a better place. Or at least I hope.
Well stated.
This is the type of conversation this culture is lacking.
That isn't Kendrick or Drake fault or responsibility.
It's OURS.
We completely let down our culture. We didn't nurture or protect it.
We need to whop our own feet.
FRESH AIR BREAK
Copy off of is CRAZY. This is how it used to be. Find your own sound. Find your own style. Your own flow. Biting/copying used to be a mortal sin in every element of hip hop.
If you bit someone's tagging style, you got called out.
If you bit someone's flow, you got called out.
If you bit someones moves, you got called out.
This shit is (was) so embedded in the culture that the first (almost) battle seen in Beat Street was about Bronx Rockers allegedly biting off Beat Street Breakers
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now they literally obsessed with Aubrey's ass
Kendrick and Cole have migraines.
And what you stated in a nutshell is life! Life is all about balance! And whenever someone or something isn’t in balance that’s when things go awry…
It really is amazing that a record saying someone is a pedo and destroying that person; is able to be played in all different types of corporate settings; and white peoples worlds!!
You ain't kidding. Now, all of a sudden, nobody ever liked the nigga. I mean shit, I was on this board when son dropped, so I know there were definitely niggas that felt that way, but EVERYBODY?! lol you have to laugh.
A lot of people were talking mad Drake shit; can’t be found now…
Do you fools listen to music, or just skim through it?
I always said fuck Drake from the beginning so I'm loving this. But I've never liked going clubs so his music was never for me.
This song is still on my gym playlist
Underaged gfs
Yeah like these other dudes weren't doing the exact same sh*t? Passing these women around like a cold
It's one thing to fuck the throwaways. It's another to fuck a nigga main bitch. There used to be codes about that. Either way, can't be mad if folks stop fucking with you if you carry it that way.
And going behind yo boys back to do it…